From leb-anon@ix.netcom.com Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:18:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:18:32 -0500 From: Mike Zmuda leb-anon@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] I'll second that... I'd rather like to see an AI sort feature in CDJ, whereas artists who go = by name (ie: Elton John) would be sorted LAST NAME FIRST (I think CDDB = has this feature...) if not, it would still be a great thing for CDJ to have.= Also, another sort function I'd like to see would be for CDJ to = optionally ignore articles (ie: "a", "the", "an" and stuff like that) and sort by = the next word if it's encountered. Besides, a title such as "A Zebra" = should rather appear AT THE END of any alphabetical list, as opposed to the = beginning. Just my $0.02 L8r, all. Mike Z. Computers good at math? Then why is 99+1=3D0? From dbgreen@worldnet.att.net Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:45:50 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:45:50 -0600 From: David Green dbgreen@worldnet.att.net Subject: [slinkelist] digital from mega-changer to MP3 on hard drive This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BF3B49.FA6F1AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for comments.... I want to read the digital content on the music CDs in my mega changers, = input it into the PC, and rip it into MP3 with tracks and titles = defined. Two objectives here: 1) Store entire collection in MP3 on hard drive (automagically done from = mega-changer through CDJ control) 2) Be able to burn new music CDs from playlists of MP3 source. I presume I can direct optical digital output from mega changer into an = appropriately equipped soundcard (SB Live with Optical module). The = difficulty will be ripping into files with appropriate = album/artist/title/track info. =20 In the interim, I presume I can capture an entire playlist sequence for = subsequent burning onto a blank CD (without artist/album info = specified). Am I missing some details? What are possible options? Dave Green dbgreen@att.net ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BF3B49.FA6F1AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looking for = comments....
 
I want to read the digital content = on the music=20 CDs in my mega changers, input it into the PC, and rip it into MP3 with = tracks=20 and titles defined.  Two objectives here:
1) Store entire collection in MP3 on = hard drive=20 (automagically done from mega-changer through CDJ control)
2) Be able to burn new music CDs = from playlists=20 of MP3 source.
 
I presume I can direct optical = digital output=20 from mega changer into an appropriately equipped soundcard (SB Live with = Optical=20 module).  The difficulty will be ripping into files with = appropriate=20 album/artist/title/track info. 
 
In the interim, I presume I can = capture an=20 entire playlist sequence for subsequent burning onto a blank CD (without = artist/album info specified).
 
Am I missing some details?  = What are=20 possible options?
 
Dave Green
dbgreen@att.net
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BF3B49.FA6F1AE0-- From curlybrian@yahoo.com Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:54:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:54:08 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Walker curlybrian@yahoo.com Subject: [slinkelist] re: Sorting albums, any ideas ? I manually edited artist and album names to remove the word A, AN and THE. Easiest solution I found, just double-click and edit. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From allahsiz@home.com Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:01:44 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:01:44 -0800 From: Sinan Karasu allahsiz@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] digital from mega-changer to MP3 on hard drive > David Green wrote: > > Looking for comments.... [...] > I presume I can direct optical digital output from mega changer into > an appropriately equipped soundcard (SB Live with Optical module). > The difficulty will be ripping into files with appropriate > album/artist/title/track info. > I would definitely stay away from SB Live. Their digital SPDIF input is horrible. Only does 48 KHz sampling. 44.1 KHz is digitally resampled thru the DSP at 48 KHz. And the when you output it to CD you have to digitally resample it at 44.1 KHz. And all this with no predefined 0 dB level. I bought one before discovering all this, unfortunately then I really needed it so could not return it back. Ordered and received a http://www.rme-audio.de audio card (digital only) called hammerfal.`Bought it from sfb electronics in netherlands(www.sfb.net). Very good people, strongly recommended. Hammerfall is digital only. It does require some fancy audio program (cakewalk, cubase , logic platinum etc...) however, it works as God intended digital audio to work. You might consider digi96 PRO or PAD card. They are cheaper and one of them ( don't remember which) has also analog i/o. Also digi96 drivers for Solaris-sparc , Solaris-x86 Linux etc... are coming out in december. I use Solaris and Linux for everything except CDJ :-( I recommend that you stay away from SB Live. Sinan PS: Stay away from SB Live. From rich@ihug.co.nz Wed, 01 Dec 1999 21:44:08 +1300 Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 21:44:08 +1300 From: Richard Malcolm-Smith rich@ihug.co.nz Subject: [slinkelist] digital from mega-changer to MP3 on hard drive Sinan Karasu wrote: > PS: Stay away from SB Live. I Second that! Outputting MP3's to minidisc, its impossible to get the meter on the minidisc to hit 0db without using the digital record level control. It has to be boosted by close to 5 db. I dont know the reason but the sound isnt what I would call nice. I have better results going thru the analog connection (even with a bit of noise there) I have a yamaha XG chipped no brand card and it sounds much better - and it also has a 48kHz output only. It has multiple streams, but somehow adds them together with the peak still hitting 0db. Wish I could turn off that as nothing is more annoying then recording a 70 min MP3 to MD and getting a ding or something thru it. Ideally i would get a card that does bit for bit transfers digitaly, but for now this will do. I cant see why hardware manafactureres cant add it. I would rather have good quality then all this multichannel crap. -- Richard personal opinions only From gtang@gtcons.com Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:17:19 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:17:19 -0800 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] re: Sorting albums, any ideas ? Rather than removing the articles, simply move them to the end. ie [The Zebra] becomes [Zebra, The]. my 2 cents worth George Tang -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Brian Walker Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 3:54 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] re: Sorting albums, any ideas ? I manually edited artist and album names to remove the word A, AN and THE. Easiest solution I found, just double-click and edit. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From MGotch@uswest.net Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:58:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:58:05 -0000 From: Martin Gotch MGotch@uswest.net Subject: [slinkelist] Martin Gotch It seems like you could just create a query in MSAccess to do this. probably not worth 2 cents.. : ) Martin Gotch > Rather than removing the articles, simply move them to the end. ie [The > Zebra] becomes [Zebra, The]. > my 2 cents worth > George Tang From tugender@pacbell.net Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:00:34 -0800 Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:00:34 -0800 From: Ron Tugender tugender@pacbell.net Subject: [slinkelist] CX-270 forgetting slots I have a CX-270 and a CX-350 connected to my Slink-e (the CX-350 is the master). The CX-270 has been doing something rather disturbing. Occasionally, but all too frequently lately, the CX-270 will begin reporting that one or more slots no longer have CDs in them. These are slots that most certainly DO have CDs in them, CDs that have been properly inserted, and not touched since the last time they were successfully accessed and played. I usually find out about this when CDJ attempts to play a track on a disk, gets a "No disk" report from the CX-270, and marks the disk as no longer having a slot assignment (graying out the disk entry and putting a "?" in the player/slot field). I find this is not a glitch in CDJ, because when I go to the player, the player treats such slots as though they had no disk present. They cannot be selected using the jog wheel, but will be skipped over as though the slot were empty. I have found that by opening the player's access window and closing it again, causing the player to re-inventory the slots, the slot's CD is usually "re-discovered", and CDJ will subsequently find the CD in a player scan and restore the proper player/slot address in CDJ's disk entry. But I continue to see disks "disappear" again, sometimes affecting the same slot. I've switched the CD's in slots that seem to be particularly affected and they will frequently disappear again, making it clear it's not a problem with reading the CD itself. Has anyone else encountered this behavior? Do you know what causes it, and any way to stop it? Thanks, Ron Tugender From Vann.Knight@MW.Boeing.com Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:30:30 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:30:30 -0600 From: Knight, Vann M Vann.Knight@MW.Boeing.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: [slinke-bbs] Advice for a newbie? (and any Pronto info?) Check out CDJ2CCF in the user submitted section on the nirvis site. At the moment it is limited to 200 cds (not much help for you). Does anyone else have a solution for slinke+pronto ? Wow 2000 cds... now that's a collection ! Vann "Nous sommes du soleil" > -----Original Message----- > From: slinke-bbs-owner@nirvis.com [mailto:slinke-bbs-owner@nirvis.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 5:40 PM > To: slinke-notify@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinke-bbs] Advice for a newbie? (and any Pronto info?) > > > New message posted on Slink-e / CDJ Discussion Board at > . > > From: Dan Herrmann > Reply at: > > I'll be getting my SlinkE tomorrow and I'm really looking > forward to using it > with my wife's 2000 CD collection! > > Any advice to help us out? > > Oh yeah - we have a Philips Pronto which we love. How can I > integrate it with > the SlinkE? > > Thanks!! > > Dan and Laura > From leb-anon@ix.netcom.com Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:34:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:34:15 -0500 From: Mike Zmuda leb-anon@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: whole "articles" thing, the (First, I wonder if anyone got the secret jibe in the subject of this = message). Second (and most importantly), doing all that editing myself = would admittedly make CDJ's operation too "manual," and hence, aw, hell... you = know what I'm saying. SURE it's easy to fix, but it's also easy to = implement: in pseudocode: If POSition(UPCASE(S),'THE ') =3D 1 then S :=3D = IndexedSubstring(S,5,LengthOf(S)) + ', The'; If POSition(UPCASE(S),'A ') =3D 1 then S :=3D = IndexedSubstring(S,3,LengthOf(S)) + ', A'; If POSition(UPCASE(S),'An ') =3D 1 then S :=3D = IndexedSubstring(S,4,LengthOf(S)) + ', An'; etcetera, Actually, in Pascal/Delphi it would look just like this: =46unction ReplArt(S) : String; Var TS : String =46unction Upcase(U) : String; var X : Integer; W : String; Begin W :=3D U; For X :=3D 1 to length(W) do W[X] :=3D Upcase(W[X]); Upcase :=3D W; end; Begin If Pos(UpString(S),'THE ') =3D 1 then TS :=3D Copy(S,5,LengthOf(S) + ', = The'; If Pos(UpString(S),'AN ') =3D 1 then TS :=3D Copy(S,4,LengthOf(S) + ', = An'; If Pos(UpString(S),'A ') =3D 1 then TS :=3D Copy(S,3,LengthOf(S) + ', = A'; ReplArt :=3D TS; end; If that helps anyone at all... Like I said, it's an easy fix. Z =20 Computers good at math? Then why is 99+1=3D0? From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 02 Dec 1999 23:49:30 -0800 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 23:49:30 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Keyword There is no way to add fields to the lists. Sorry. David At 08:33 AM 11/28/99 , Bob wrote: >Hi Folks, > >I'm interested in adding the "keyword" field to the display. >I've tried right-clicking the header and "customize header", >but it doesn't show the field as an available header item. > >Here's the deal. I want to use the keyword field for music >catagories. Specifically, I want to plug in the word "Christmas" >on all of our Christmas CDs, so we can get a view of just >the Christmas stuff for playlist picking. > >I'm probably missing the obvious. > >Any help? > >Bob From simon@themasons.net Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:38:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:38:11 -0500 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] Phantom playlist tracks I have had some phantom tracks show up in my playlist recently that I can't seem to resolve. I have a large playlist of christmas music that I activate remotely (using the connection to Cyberhouse). When the stop playing command is sent from a user, it clears the playlist. In the playlist window appears the same MP3 file 4 times, and two other tracks (always the same two) from other CDs. These will play, but they cannot be removed. Sometimes when I shutdown CDJ at this point it GPFs. Everything else works fine. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? It looks like a pointer is getting messed up, or something is not being flushed. I noticed that the MP3 file is not on my hard drive anymore so I am going to delete it from the library to see if this works. From simon@themasons.net Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:40:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:40:37 -0500 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] Anyway to change player location for MP3? When I play MP3s through CDJ it uses the default audio out on my sound card. Unfortunately this is also being used by HA program to make voice announcements in the house. For some reason, when anything else accesses this audio out the voice announcements stop working. I would like CDJ to play audio through the sound card of another computer so I can mix it into my whole house audio independently of these voice announcments. However, CDJ needs to run on this machine to be able to interface with my HA program. Is there anyway to send the audio to the other machine? From mcody@home.com Sat, 4 Dec 1999 15:09:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 15:09:03 -0500 From: MAC mcody@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] "cannot open device file" for Sony CX850 DVD/CD Mega Changer This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF3E69.8068C020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got both my new Sony and the Slink-e but I cannot get the = Slink-e/CDJ to recognize the player. =20 Any assistance would be appreciated. mcody@mindspring.com ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF3E69.8068C020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just got both my new Sony and the = Slink-e but I=20 cannot get the Slink-e/CDJ to recognize the player. 
Any assistance would be = appreciated.
mcody@mindspring.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF3E69.8068C020-- From bkush@us.oracle.com Sun, 05 Dec 1999 14:59:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 14:59:32 -0500 From: Brian Kush bkush@us.oracle.com Subject: [slinkelist] Some remotes work, others don't with IR RX/TX This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8F027392F9D153D21EC30A6F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the s-link box with a receiver connected to one port of the expansion board and a transmitter connected to the other end. If I use my sony remote, I can control the receiver volume up and down with no problem. I also have a Pansonic remote that will control the TV and the receiver. When emulating the sony remote the volume up and down buttons work, but I cannot get it to control the Panasonic TV or a RCA dish at all. I have two theories but I cannot prove either of them out: 1 - The Panasonic and RCA remotes are doing something different that the s-link will not handle as configured. 2 - I need to load some device files for the other remotes. In the case of #1, are there settings that I need to change in the s-link setup to handle different remotes? I did change the two that the instructions recommend. For case #2, I tried to load additional drivers and cannot get them to work. I created a simple driver file with the EZ Learn program and was able to make it work with the 'try' button. After I saved the file and went into CDJ I was able to add it and labeled it 'sony'. I ran into a problem here where the setup box for the driver would not let me select the s-link. All it would do is pop up what appeared to be the list of numbers, but they were all blank. Anyway I went to an older version and was able to get it set up. The problem now is when in CDJ I give it the command 'sony:up' I get an error telling me that "sony refers to a slink-e that does not exist". So I checked the slink-e number that the 'cdjr' is associated with and it is 1 just like I set the device file to. After reading the instructions everything seems to logical fall into place, but there must be something I am overlooking. Thank --bk --------------8F027392F9D153D21EC30A6F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="bkush.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Brian Kush Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bkush.vcf" begin:vcard n:Kush;Brian tel;fax:801.340.8637 tel;work:412.269.3518 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:spg.us.oracle.com/~bkush org:Oracle Consulting;System Performance Group version:2.1 email;internet:bkush@us.oracle.com title:Practice Director adr;quoted-printable:;;Suite 400=0D=0A500 Cherrington Parkway=0D=0A;Coraopolis;PA;15108;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;16048 fn:Brian Kush end:vcard --------------8F027392F9D153D21EC30A6F-- From neil@neils.net Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:47:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:47:47 -0500 From: Neil Cunningham neil@neils.net Subject: [slinkelist] Help with advanced setup I'm trying to get all the possible actions I can do with my gear. So far I've started with my amp Sony DA555ES. These are the codes I got responses with: nomatch:sl1[C00F]=20 nomatch:sl1[C87002160190]=20 nomatch:sl1[C30F]=20 nomatch:sl1[CB70190000]=20 I guess before I get to deep is there a "tutorial" that will guide me though all the stuff I need to do to "learn" new gear? general questions: 1) How do I tell from above info what controls what? 2) How do I figure out what commands I can issue for each ID? I guess I'm basically looking for a beginners guide to advanced configuration. :) Thanks, Neil From cboles@nirvis.com Tue, 07 Dec 1999 17:02:45 -0800 Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 17:02:45 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D cameraworld.com accidentally sent me an extra DVP-CX850D 200-disc DVD changer that I don't need. I bought it before their prices went up, so I can sell it to anyone who is interested for $699 + shipping. It's still unopened in the original box. The current price on their site is $799. send me a mail at cboles@nirvis.com if you're interested... Colby Nirvis Systems http://www.nirvis.com http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles From cboles@nirvis.com Tue, 07 Dec 1999 17:13:13 -0800 Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 17:13:13 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Sold. Sorry for the limited window of opportunity. Colby At 05:02 PM 12/7/99 -0800, Colby Boles wrote: >cameraworld.com accidentally sent me an extra DVP-CX850D 200-disc DVD >changer that I don't need. I bought it before their prices went up, so I >can sell it to anyone who is interested for $699 + shipping. It's still >unopened in the original box. The current price on their site is $799. > >send me a mail at cboles@nirvis.com if you're interested... > >Colby >Nirvis Systems >http://www.nirvis.com >http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > Nirvis Systems http://www.nirvis.com http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles From tgautier@corp.home.net Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:21:23 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:21:23 -0800 From: Taylor Gautier tgautier@corp.home.net Subject: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Not sure if they still offer this price, but I believe www.oade.com was selling it for $625. I ended up getting mine for $680 from crutchfield with a one time only 15% deal. -t ----- Original Message ----- From: Colby Boles To: Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D > Sold. Sorry for the limited window of opportunity. > > Colby > > At 05:02 PM 12/7/99 -0800, Colby Boles wrote: > > >cameraworld.com accidentally sent me an extra DVP-CX850D 200-disc DVD > >changer that I don't need. I bought it before their prices went up, so I > >can sell it to anyone who is interested for $699 + shipping. It's still > >unopened in the original box. The current price on their site is $799. > > > >send me a mail at cboles@nirvis.com if you're interested... > > > >Colby > >Nirvis Systems > >http://www.nirvis.com > >http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > Nirvis Systems > http://www.nirvis.com > http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From sonnie@casema.net Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:30:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:30:06 +0100 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D I received this quote for $ 599, outlined below.... (Didn't buy one yet though, waiting on Colby's experiances before deciding...) Cheers, Jeroen ------- The price for the sony DVPCX850D is $599 More information on the requested item(s) can be found at http://www.supremevideo.com/PRICING.HTM Please take the time to complete our 30-second Quote Survey, and let us know how we're doing: http://supremevideo.com/cgi-bin/qs1.pl?d=991123&&s=williamm&m=DVPCX850D If you are in the NY Tri-State Area, be sure to visit our showroom on the Lower East Side of Manhattan at 37 Essex st. If you're in town, come on by and say Hi! If you have any further questions or wish to place an order please feel free to contact me at 800-323-7669 ext.2206 Thanks William M. williamm@supremevideo.com http://www.supremevideo.com 800-323-7669 x 2206 212-475-2450 Fax 212-475-3904 ----------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Taylor Gautier Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 2:21 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Not sure if they still offer this price, but I believe www.oade.com was selling it for $625. I ended up getting mine for $680 from crutchfield with a one time only 15% deal. -t ----- Original Message ----- From: Colby Boles To: Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D > Sold. Sorry for the limited window of opportunity. > > Colby > > At 05:02 PM 12/7/99 -0800, Colby Boles wrote: > > >cameraworld.com accidentally sent me an extra DVP-CX850D 200-disc DVD > >changer that I don't need. I bought it before their prices went up, so I > >can sell it to anyone who is interested for $699 + shipping. It's still > >unopened in the original box. The current price on their site is $799. > > > >send me a mail at cboles@nirvis.com if you're interested... > > > >Colby > >Nirvis Systems > >http://www.nirvis.com > >http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > Nirvis Systems > http://www.nirvis.com > http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From bkolitz@bellsouth.net Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:47:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:47:46 -0500 From: Brent P. Kolitz bkolitz@bellsouth.net Subject: [slinkelist] Best way to connect 9 changers? I'm considering buying the Slink-E, and I've been poring over this BBS & Deja for days now trying to figure this out. I'll need to have 8 or 9 changers to hold my entire collection. I keep running across warnings that you should put each changer on one of the separate 4 buses to prevent problems. But apparently the Slink-E can handle 3 changers per bus, for a total of 12. What am I missing, and can someone please explain the best way to connect this many changers while preserving all of the functionality of both the Slink-E and the CDJ software? From blipsky@uranus.franklin.com Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:51:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:51:42 -0500 From: Barry Lipsky blipsky@uranus.franklin.com Subject: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D I just called and they say they are sold out! -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Sonnie Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 11:30 AM To: Taylor Gautier; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D I received this quote for $ 599, outlined below.... (Didn't buy one yet though, waiting on Colby's experiances before deciding...) Cheers, Jeroen ------- The price for the sony DVPCX850D is $599 More information on the requested item(s) can be found at http://www.supremevideo.com/PRICING.HTM Please take the time to complete our 30-second Quote Survey, and let us know how we're doing: http://supremevideo.com/cgi-bin/qs1.pl?d=991123&&s=williamm&m=DVPCX850D If you are in the NY Tri-State Area, be sure to visit our showroom on the Lower East Side of Manhattan at 37 Essex st. If you're in town, come on by and say Hi! If you have any further questions or wish to place an order please feel free to contact me at 800-323-7669 ext.2206 Thanks William M. williamm@supremevideo.com http://www.supremevideo.com 800-323-7669 x 2206 212-475-2450 Fax 212-475-3904 ----------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Taylor Gautier Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 2:21 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Not sure if they still offer this price, but I believe www.oade.com was selling it for $625. I ended up getting mine for $680 from crutchfield with a one time only 15% deal. -t ----- Original Message ----- From: Colby Boles To: Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D > Sold. Sorry for the limited window of opportunity. > > Colby > > At 05:02 PM 12/7/99 -0800, Colby Boles wrote: > > >cameraworld.com accidentally sent me an extra DVP-CX850D 200-disc DVD > >changer that I don't need. I bought it before their prices went up, so I > >can sell it to anyone who is interested for $699 + shipping. It's still > >unopened in the original box. The current price on their site is $799. > > > >send me a mail at cboles@nirvis.com if you're interested... > > > >Colby > >Nirvis Systems > >http://www.nirvis.com > >http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > Nirvis Systems > http://www.nirvis.com > http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:08:03 PST Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:08:03 PST From: Ken Geoffrion kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D And, I've discovered that Cameraworld (who I feel has a little better service and return policy) will match SupremeVideo's prices. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sonnie" To: "Taylor Gautier" , Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:30:06 +0100 I received this quote for $ 599, outlined below.... (Didn't buy one yet though, waiting on Colby's experiances before deciding...) Cheers, Jeroen ------- The price for the sony DVPCX850D is $599 More information on the requested item(s) can be found at http://www.supremevideo.com/PRICING.HTM Please take the time to complete our 30-second Quote Survey, and let us know how we're doing: http://supremevideo.com/cgi-bin/qs1.pl?d=991123&&s=williamm&m=DVPCX850D If you are in the NY Tri-State Area, be sure to visit our showroom on the Lower East Side of Manhattan at 37 Essex st. If you're in town, come on by and say Hi! If you have any further questions or wish to place an order please feel free to contact me at 800-323-7669 ext.2206 Thanks William M. williamm@supremevideo.com http://www.supremevideo.com 800-323-7669 x 2206 212-475-2450 Fax 212-475-3904 ----------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Taylor Gautier Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 2:21 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Not sure if they still offer this price, but I believe www.oade.com was selling it for $625. I ended up getting mine for $680 from crutchfield with a one time only 15% deal. -t ----- Original Message ----- From: Colby Boles To: Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D > Sold. Sorry for the limited window of opportunity. > > Colby > > At 05:02 PM 12/7/99 -0800, Colby Boles wrote: > > >cameraworld.com accidentally sent me an extra DVP-CX850D 200-disc DVD > >changer that I don't need. I bought it before their prices went up, so I > >can sell it to anyone who is interested for $699 + shipping. It's still > >unopened in the original box. The current price on their site is $799. > > > >send me a mail at cboles@nirvis.com if you're interested... > > > >Colby > >Nirvis Systems > >http://www.nirvis.com > >http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > Nirvis Systems > http://www.nirvis.com > http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From tresy@kilbourne-quirk.com Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:58:12 -0800 Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:58:12 -0800 From: Tresy Kilbourne tresy@kilbourne-quirk.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations As one of the unfortunates who purchased the severely flawed DXS last month (additionally flawed in my case by a defective display unrelated to the firmware bug), I want to share the following backchannel communication I had with another DXS sufferer. He felt more kindly towards Nirvis about its handling of the screwup than I did, but who nonetheless encouraged me to post this to the list. It is followed by my entire correspondence with Nirvis. Together they form what some might consider a window on Nivis' indifferent attitude towards keeping customers happy, or it might not. For me it is just one last unfinished item before I check out of here as a customer of Nirivis for good. As luck and the desperation borne of sheer frustration would have it I was able to find an infinitely preferable, cheaper and better solution to my problems than the bug-filled DXS, and I am taking my business to that company instead. Whatever your opinion about this conflict, I am uninterested in hearing about it, so please do not send me any followup email on the subject. I'm fed up with the whole experience and have no desire to revisit it. My view as expressed in private communication last week: Just a back channel communication to clarify something. One of the things that's hacking me off about this DXS behavior is that Nirvis seems only moderately concerned about it. They send the units out without testing them (even though they are apparently first-run), discover the problem independently from me but wait until my inquiry before acknowledging it, then tell me to wait over a week until their engineer comes back from vacation, and all they can say is, "sorry for any inconvenience." Any inconvenience??? The thing doesn't work! This is not a matter of a bug that only crops up on occasion; it's a constant aggravation. I know that mistakes happen, some of them beyond our control. But David seems to think it's good customer relations to blame the problem on their supplier and let it go at that. It's not. And it's even worse that they are a small business. A small business cannot afford bad word of mouth on a high-end product, and that is likely what they are going to get from me when this whole business is over. All David had to do was apologize profusely for the problem, take full responsibility for it, and get his people working on it ASAP. Periodic updates to his customer base would also be in order. But he didn't do any of these things. What if my check had bounced after I got the unit, through no fault of my own, and I had said, gee, sorry for any inconvenience, but I'm going to finish my vacation before calling my bank and getting this sorted out? I think Nirvis would feel I was fairly casual about holding up my end of the bargain. That's the way I feel about the aptly named Nirvis. Walter Kilbourne Correspondence in chronological order: I recently bought a DXS for my 3 changers, and it works pretty well, except for one thing. At seemingly random intervals the unit switches into what I think is the setup mode; at any rate, the readout reads "Press 1-9" and nothing works until I unplug it and replug it in. It used to do this quite a lot when it was hooked into the SLink bus, but even with it out of the bus it happens. I tried changing the code set to VCR3, but that hasn't stopped this from happening. What is going on? -- Walter Kilbourne Seattle WA ============================================================================ Hi Tresy, We've seen the same thing here too. Colby is on vacation until the week after this coming but It'll be the first thing he looks into when he gets back. We'll send out an announcement when we have a patch. Sorry for any inconvenience. David Aue Nirvis Systems At 07:11 PM 11/27/99 , you wrote: >I recently bought a DXS for my 3 changers, and it works pretty well, except >for one thing. At seemingly random intervals the unit switches into what I >think is the setup mode; at any rate, the readout reads "Press 1-9" and >nothing works until I unplug it and replug it in. It used to do this quite a >lot when it was hooked into the SLink bus, but even with it out of the bus >it happens. I tried changing the code set to VCR3, but that hasn't stopped >this from happening. > >What is going on? >-- >Walter Kilbourne >Seattle WA > ============================================================================ on 11/27/99 7:26 PM, Nirvis Help (David) at help@nirvis.com wrote: > Hi Tresy, > > We've seen the same thing here too. Colby is on vacation until the week > after this coming but It'll be the first thing he looks into when he gets > back. We'll send out an announcement when we have a patch. Sorry for any > inconvenience. > > David Aue > Nirvis Systems > > At 07:11 PM 11/27/99 , you wrote: >> I recently bought a DXS for my 3 changers, and it works pretty well, except >> for one thing. At seemingly random intervals the unit switches into what I >> think is the setup mode; at any rate, the readout reads "Press 1-9" and >> nothing works until I unplug it and replug it in. It used to do this quite a >> lot when it was hooked into the SLink bus, but even with it out of the bus >> it happens. I tried changing the code set to VCR3, but that hasn't stopped >> this from happening. >> >> What is going on? >> -- >> Walter Kilbourne >> Seattle WA >> David: the problem continues and is worse than ever: I now see a pattern of dots on the display that look something like a piano keyboard. The switching effect is a thing of the past. In order to "switch" I have to unplug and then replug the AC (thanks to the lack of a normal switch, something I would expect for the money I paid) in order to get it to "let go" of the currently playing changer. Then I can play whatever else I want to--until I want to try another changer. Then it's unplug and replug again. As it stands, I feel I have spent ~$400 for nothing. I could accomplish the same thing I am doing now by swapping TOSLink cables in the back of the DAC. This problem surfaced straight out of the box, and is obviously not unique to my unit. If this is your idea of quality control, I am not impressed. What are my options? -- Walter Kilbourne Seattle WA ============================================================================ David: I assume you got my earlier message. What are my options? The displayis completely whacked out (the lettering is gibberish, and there are all sorts of other random character strewn across it, and the pulsing dots do not reflect digital signal activity at all), and the switching is spotty at best. It's going straight downhill in my opinion, and I don't want to wait until it goes out completely. I frankly feel that since I am within the warranty period I should get a brand new, pretested unit shipped here pronto. I will then ship you the defective unit back in the original box. What is your suggestion? Tresy Kilbourne Seattle WA ============================================================================ Hi Walter, The problem is in the firmware programming in the unit. The bug was apparently introduced just prior to shipping the first batch so we didn't catch it. Our programmer who wrote the code has been on vacation. He will be back at the end of this week and will start working on a fix for it. When he has the problem solved we will make a patch available and your unit should function properly. You other option is to send the unit back and we will refund your credit card. Sincerely, David Aue Nirvis Systems ============================================================================ on 12/6/99 1:49 PM, Nirvis Help (David) at help@nirvis.com wrote: > When he has the problem solved we will make a patch available and your unit > should function properly. So I will be running some kind of software patch on it? What if I am not on a PC? -- Tresy Kilbourne Seattle WA ============================================================================ If you do not have access to a PC then we can send you a pre-programmed chip which can be swapped with the current one. If you are not comfortable swapping a chip then we can swap your unit for one with a newly programmed chip already installed. David Aue Nirvis Systems ============================================================================ on 12/6/99 2:26 PM, Nirvis Help (David) at help@nirvis.com wrote: > If you do not have access to a PC then we can send you a pre-programmed > chip which can be swapped with the current one. If you are not comfortable > swapping a chip then we can swap your unit for one with a newly programmed > chip already installed. I have Virtual PC on my Mac, so I might as well see if that will do the job. What kind of connection am I going to need? Right now I am hooked up to your Slink-E via my serial port; is there any chance of hooking the DXS into the Slink-E for the firmware update? -- Tresy Kilbourne Seattle WA ============================================================================ I don't know if it will work from virtual PC but you could try. Does our regular PC software control the Slink-e okay from Virtual PC? If so then it will most likely work with the DXS too. When you reboot the DXS by cycling the power is everything okay for a short while at least? David Aue Nirvis Systems ============================================================================ on 12/6/99 9:39 PM, Nirvis Help (David) at help@nirvis.com wrote: > When you reboot the DXS by cycling the power is everything okay for a short > while at least? Absolutely not. The display has turned to complete gibberish, and it gets worse every time I reboot. Now random characters dance across the screen. As for the switching, it does seem to improve for a while. =========================================================================== Well that sounds like more than the software problem others are seeing. Send it back and we'll get another one out to you as soon as the software is fixed. Our address is: 1438 Milvia St. Berkeley, CA 94709 Send it UPS ground or whatever other cheap way is convenient for you. Let us know how much the shipping cost and we will reimburse you. David Aue Nirvis Systems At 10:13 PM 12/6/99 , you wrote: >on 12/6/99 9:39 PM, Nirvis Help (David) at help@nirvis.com wrote: > > > When you reboot the DXS by cycling the power is everything okay for a short > > while at least? >Absolutely not. The display has turned to complete gibberish, and it gets >worse every time I reboot. Now random characters dance across the screen. As >for the switching, it does seem to improve for a while. >-- >Tresy Kilbourne >Seattle WA > =========================================================================== on 12/7/99 4:31 PM, Nirvis Help (David) at help@nirvis.com wrote: > Well that sounds like more than the software problem others are > seeing. Send it back and we'll get another one out to you as soon as the > software is fixed. > How about if I hang onto it until there's something to replace it with? As bad as it is, it still has some meager usability. Without it I have nothing. Any idea how long until a fix is out? And one last thought: since I apparently have defective hardware as well as firmware, why not at least replace with it with a firmware-defect-only unit, and then I can upgrade from there when the fix is out? -- Walter Kilbourne Seattle WA =========================================================================== Hi Walter, We're working on the fix right now. It shouldn't be too long. If you're really unhappy with this whole thing we would much rather you return the unit for a full refund than have to be continually dissatisfied with the solutions we can offer. Once we feel we have the product in better shape we could give you a ring and you could decide whether to buy one then if you have not found another solution. I'll have to warn you though the price will be a lot higher in a few weeks. We sold the first batch at less than production cost. Sincerely, David Aue Nirvis Systems =========================================================================== David: Am I reading this right? Your "solution" is for me to send back the unit I have, do without anything, and then pay MORE for what I should have gotten right in the first place? That's your idea of a warranty??? This experience is getting Kafkaesque. Nirvis is rapidly earning a place in my short list of places that don't have a clue when it comes to customer relations. What's so difficult about expressing extreme embarrassment over putting out such a crummy product and bending over backwards to make the customer happy? I see little evidence that you care about anything other than getting my money or making me go away. I am on the verge of posting this entire exchange on your list and letting others see what they can look forward to when they have problems with your products. Sincerely, Walter Kilbourne =========================================================================== Hi Walter, This is a brand new product. It had some modifications made to the firmware just prior to it's initial shipping and it turned out this caused an unexpected problem. The person capable of fixing that problem unfortunately had just gone on a 2 week vacation. He came back yesterday and within 8 hours of stepping off a plane from Thailand seems to have the problem fixed. We will make sure that all of our customers get the remedy as soon as possible and do whatever is necessary to accommodate them implementing this fix at no cost to them and in a timely manner. That is the best we can do. I don't want anybody to feel stuck with anything they are unhappy with and I don't want the money of anyone who doesn't feel like they got their money's worth out of our products. This is why we have an unconditional 100% money back guarantee including return shipping. I have offered you every remedy I have at hand to me and you still seem unhappy so I'm at a loss as to what else I can do for you. We are a very small company trying to provide innovative products at a reasonable price and I think the DXS is that. In about 2 days it should also work pretty well. Then again it could have another problem that we didn't foresee. We are not a big company with lots of testing resources and extra staff and a new product from us is actually fairly likely to have a few glitches in the beginning. The initial purchasers of this product have encountered that but they also got what promises to the best product of it's kind (perhaps the only) on the market for about half what we should be charging for it. In addition they get the promise that if they are unhappy for any reason they can get all of their money back and go on with their lives unburdened by automated digital switching. I think if you did a survey of our customers you would find that they are overwhelmingly happy with the products we sell and the service we offer. Frankly other people just don't make stuff as cool as we do or listen to their customers as much. We make flexible products and provide a very open architecture to our users so they can do just what they want with them. They love us for it. We listen to their suggestions and do our best to implement them into our products and they love us for it. We also maintain our products over the long haul. We fix every known firmware problem we can find and make those fixes available to our customers as soon as possible. In the case of the DXS they are free because we designed it with a flash upgradable CPU so we can give everyone fixes and new features for free as we develop them. They'll love us for it. We have a personable and lighthearted approach towards business so instead of calling everyone Sir and Ma'am we simply talk with them like normal people and try to enjoy the fun of electronics automation together. I could write lots of long fake sounding apologies for the problems people have but instead I just give people the straight dope and do everything I can to get them up and running again. We don't get embarrassed by our mistakes we just fix them. As for posting this conversation to the mailing list, I have no problem with that. I believe I have answered all of your inquiries in a prompt, direct and professional manner. If you would feel better by posting our interactions please feel free to do so. I would only ask that you include every e-mail sent between starting with your pre-sales questions and leave them unedited in order to preserve the entire context. I can provide any or all of those e-mails to you if you have since deleted them. Once this product is a little more mature I'm sure it will be the kind of quality reliable product straight out of the box that you are looking for. I'm sorry that it is not that today and I'm sorry that it does need meet your needs and expectations. The remedy I can offer at this point is what I think will be a fix for your technical problems within the next few days and if it's not, my continued efforts to get your system working properly. If that is not satisfactory let's simply agree that you are not satisfied with your purchase and I will give you a full refund including return shipping. Please let me know how you would like proceed. Sincerely, David Aue Nirvis Systems And that, as they say, is that. -- Walter Kilbourne Seattle WA From dmullin@knotzdigital.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 00:32:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 00:32:34 -0500 From: D. Mullin dmullin@knotzdigital.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations I believe this guy may have more problems than just his DXS unit :-) I wish he posted the name of the other company so we can warn them he is coming! That was one of the more ridiculous things I have read in a while. I am glad he decided to share. Hats off to David, Colby, and Nirvis....and the friend who told him to post. From Roark7@aol.com Thu, 9 Dec 1999 00:50:07 EST Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 00:50:07 EST From: Roark7@aol.com Roark7@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations After reading everything you submitted, I feel a bit compelled to stand-up for Colby & Co. They admitted there was a bug. To this end they offered to take the unit back & refund your money... or you could accept the upgrade when it became available. The fact the programmer was on vacation sorta sucks, but you said it yourself: It's a small company. This is bound to happen at some point, and Murphy says it will happen at the worst time. Programmers need vacations too. Maybe I'm missing something, but what else would you have them do? You say you aren't satisfied with the way they responded yet they offered to make it right or refund the money. I submit they were square with you when they could have danced you to death. I can name a bunch of Fortune 500 companies which wouldn't have admitted there was a bug in the first place and would plainly have told you "well gee... that's funny... it worked when it left here... how did *you* manage to break it? / file a claim with the shipper for damaged goods", etc. This would be good for weeks of delay. They could have censored you from this list. They didn't. Any time you get a product more complicated than a toaster-controller, you're going to have a bug or two. If you buy into the first few shipments, you can almost *expect* them. Its just part of the game. Nothing is perfect the first release. If you are emotionally unprepared to deal with this, then you shouldn't be buying until the trade journals are tired of reviewing the product. No flame intended. Just presenting an alternate point of view. Roark Ventura, Ca From ci@csi.com Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:24:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:24:00 -0800 From: Allen Cobb ci@csi.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations Clearly, Tresy has had a rough time with the first release of DXS, but his history of msgs back and forth portrays Nirvis (David) responding promptly, politely, and with numerous simple remedies to his problems. Therefore, I don't understand why he is so upset with Nirvis, other than the misfortune of getting a severely defective unit. If it had been DOA, perhaps everything would have gone more smoothly. I have had a few questions to Nirvis go unanswered, and a few problems with CDJ that nobody seems interested in (or at least in responding to), but at the same time, I have access to this list, the BBS, and ultimately direct emails to Colby and David on any topic at all. Realistically, if Nirvis's failure to respond had seriously annoyed me, it would have been easy to escallate the urgency with direct contact to the top people at Nirvis. This simply shows both the benefits and the disadvantages of dealing with a small, personal company. It is a difficult tradeoff to assign limited resources to PR or engineering. In the end, I'll take low-key PR and dedicated engineering any day. If the "refined" DXS ends up as nicely tweaked as Slink-E, future customers won't have anything to worry about at all. Allen Cobb From help@nirvis.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 00:05:00 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 00:05:00 -0800 From: Nirvis Help (David) help@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXS Firmware v1.02 Hi Everyone, Colby has been cranking on the DXS code and we have a patch ready that will solve the hanging problem. We made up a web page with instructions for the patch. http://www.nirvis.com/dxs/upgrading/upgrading.htm It has been tested by a couple of people already and they have reported success. Send us an email or give us a call if you have any trouble and we'll get you going. We expect things to be pretty solid now as the only two problems reported so far are addressed by this patch. With Colby back if there are any further problems we should be able to diagnose them and turn around a fix in minimal time. Our sincere apologies again for the delay. Let us know how you like it!!! David Aue Nirvis Systems From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 00:22:00 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 00:22:00 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Walter Kilbornes Complaints Hi Everyone, I appreciate all of the supportive replies you've been sending regarding Walter's experience with us. I could go into a whole diatribe about my experience with him and the factual errors in his posting. Some of the e-mails he sent us but didn't bother including are actually rather humorous. At any rate his character shows through pretty clearly in his posting so I'll leave it at that let it go. I'd just as soon see this issue take up no more band width on this list. Walter has gone elsewhere (well he's still keeping his Slink-e) and we will continue to do our best to bring you cool products that no-one else seems to be making. That is if we survive Y2K. Happy Automating, David Aue Nirvis Systems From tresy@kilbourne-quirk.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 01:17:59 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 01:17:59 -0800 From: Tresy Kilbourne tresy@kilbourne-quirk.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations on 12/8/99 9:43 PM, Don Stephens at donstephens@101freeway.com wrote: > Well, that certainly was informative. I don't really see what the gentleman > is complaining about. If I were in his position, I'd send it back and be > done with it. Which is what I wound up doing. But along the way the purchase required an investment in other equipment (like a D/A converter, and expensive optical cables), so I was not happy to have to sell at a loss. The solution I found avoids this, making it a win-win to dump the flaky, expensive DXS. -- Tresy Kilbourne Seattle WA From tresy@kilbourne-quirk.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 01:25:23 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 01:25:23 -0800 From: Tresy Kilbourne tresy@kilbourne-quirk.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations on 12/8/99 9:49 PM, Lee Hart at HLeeHart@WinISP.Net wrote: > I also don't know how you get the idea that they knew about the problem before > they shipped it. Learn to read. I wrote, "They send the units out without testing them (even though they are apparently first-run), discover the problem independently from me but wait until my inquiry before acknowledging it, then tell me to wait over a week until their engineer comes back from vacation, and all they can say is, "sorry for any inconvenience." > You reported a problem, they said they had also seen the > problem, and told you it would be the top item when the engineer returned. In other words, their engineer's vacation is more important than fulfilling an implied commitment to their customer base to deliver a product that does what we paid for it to do. You find that peachy. I don't. You don't have to worry about having me for a customer. Luckily for me there are plenty of businesses around who do not share the above priorities. -- Tresy Kilbourne Seattle WA From tresy@kilbourne-quirk.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 01:26:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 01:26:16 -0800 From: Tresy Kilbourne tresy@kilbourne-quirk.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations on 12/8/99 11:12 PM, A. Lester Buck III at buck@Compact.COM wrote: > And we all wonder what was in those pre-sales emails that David > asked you to include that didn't make it into your post. Why don't you ask him? I don't have them anymore. I frankly found Colby to be snotty, given to curt one-sentence replies and no greeting, informal or otherwise. Other than that, the presales exchanges were nothing special one way or another, neither helpful nor unhelpful. -- Tresy Kilbourne Seattle WA From michael@laserle.fi Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:07:09 +0200 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:07:09 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] re: DXSgusting Customer To new people in this list, and the ones actually having second thoughts about purchasing dxs because of who Tresy wrote: -------------------------------------------------- That Tresy seem to have "few" problems of his own. I'm a old customer of nirvis (bought slinke about year ago) and have followed this email list almost daily for past year or so. And for my own part I can say I'm completely satisfied by Nirvis product & services, they are simply amazing. Free software upgrades, modification by customer request, hardware (slinke) delivering 200% of what promised in adds, order processed & item send in 24h. tell me even one other company that comes even close to this quality of service, I dare you. As I understood in dxs there in small bug that causes it to hang up sometimes = bad. Did Nirvis refuse to refund ? -NO. Did Nirvis refuse to repair it? -NO. The programmer is on vacation, TS. Did he start working on his vacation to fix the bug? -YES. Did nirvis kill Kenny ??? -No, You bastards !! ;) What crawled up Tresy's butt ? -... (South park humor) In past if a bug in nirvis BEEEEETTA !!!!!! software was found, new fixed version would be available in few days, sometimes in hours. (compare to BIGGEST, richest software company in the world and their most widely sold software MS WinBlows95, well it's been 5 YEARS !!! and still they haven't fixed it, or really even admitted that there in problemS (and not just one, but ...) ) To Tresy: ---------------------------- Please go and buy ms windows 2000 and ms ie5 and office 2000. Please, pretty please. Ms and him, they would deserve each others. Bottom line : ---------------- For past year this is the only complaint about nirvis services I have seen ANYWHERE, and for other than that DXS has a bug, and nirvis has offered to repair or refund, it's Bulls**t. -michael (A), a satisfied customer. From michael@laserle.fi Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:04:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:04:32 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] cdp-cx100 question does anyone know if Sony Cdp-cx100 has a digital out ? (Great piece of hardware, more solid structure, better sound quality, faster disk change, 2-3 times faster than cx350 [6sec vs. 16sec], Far better slots for cd's, you can travel with loaded player) Too bad it don't have control a-1. -michael (A) From allahsiz@home.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 04:31:30 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 04:31:30 -0800 From: Sinan Karasu allahsiz@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations Tresy Kilbourne wrote: > > As one of the unfortunates who purchased the severely flawed DXS last month > (additionally flawed in my case by a defective display unrelated to the > firmware bug), I want to share the following backchannel communication I had I got a DXS and am also in Seattle. I got one with 2 input cards and 2 output cards. It has been working flawlessly. I have connected 3 CD changers, one DVD changer, 1 MD recorder, One DSS and SPDIF I/O card from the computer to it. I am very very pleased with the unit. I finally got rid of the horrible analog mixer that I was using. I can't believe that I put up with an analog mixer for so long. Sinan Karasu Seattle WA From jschaaf@wyseadv.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 08:57:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 08:57:27 -0500 From: John W. Schaaf jschaaf@wyseadv.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations I say Bravo Nirvis. They handled this perfectly. I received my Slink-E yesterday and I have used a friends and spoken with Kolby on the phone because I didn't understand maps and I have nothing but praise for them. Nuf said. A satisfied customer, John Schaaf ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations Author: Tresy Kilbourne Date: 12/8/99 8:58 PM As one of the unfortunates who purchased the severely flawed DXS last month (additionally flawed in my case by a defective display unrelated to the firmware bug), I want to share the following backchannel communication I had ... SNIP From michael@laserle.fi Thu, 09 Dec 1999 16:29:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 16:29:31 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Word about Big companies "Customer Relations" I have Sony Wide screen LCD projector tv (kv-37W) and it broke (one of the 3 primary color panels died = green picture) (under guarantee): 1. I had to wait 3 weeks for a part to arrive from japan (taiwan or whatever) 2. After a month I got it back, I switched it on and after 5 minutes there was a laud bang and picture went dead. - The lamp exploded 3. I got new lamp in 4 day, coz I went to the service office myself (4-6 hours trip) 4. I installed the lamp myself, and noticed that the picture was still slightly greenish. 5. it went to the service again I waited 3 weeks and got it back, now the picture was slightly violet. 6. At this point the service started to dance me around "It was good enough when it left here", "WE did SOOO much work on it, we did this, and this .. " (it's not my problem), "You have to contact Sony, we wash our hand from it" and the local Sony representative was conveniently of business trip abroad for a week. When he got back, he didn't return my calls for another week. 7. At that point I was planning of driving a car full of explosive through their front door. And contacted consumer officials. 8. The next day a angel wearing Sony overalls rang by door bell, and sat on the couch and took out a remote controller and 30 minutes later it was fixed. He put tv into the service state and suddenly there was hundreds of previously hidden menus that allowed to adjust everything you can't even imagine about colors and then some. He was A pro, unlike those F***king idiots at the repair company, from which local sony buys their repair service. Those wankers at repair service told me "there is now way to adjust the color in this model" so they changes twice all the panels & insides of the tv. (well, atleast I got fresh lamp & color panels) so for someone who cries about getting refund and "losing" money for selling accessories, coz can't wait week to get the equipment fixed. I wasn't even offered compensations, or refund, and that is a standard policy. Not to mention the lost time on my part & money, having to leave work early to accommodate their work hours. Not to mention sleepless night in unsertainty wether or not they will do the "right thing", or dodge their responsibilities. retail value of that tv here in finland is 30 000 to 35 000FIM which divided by current rate 5.603... is about 6 250USD. (I did got it for 2/3 of that and consider it good deal so please, don't tell me "todd's radio shag in florida sell them for 800usd", if I'bought from US It would double the cost with shipping & TAXES and with practically no quarantee) So for that money I expected sertain level of quality & service. = Half of what nirvis has provided for me would have been more that enough. So in light of that I think that Nirvis has handeled that reclamation fairly; "Yes, it was our fault. We'll fix it as soon as POSSIBLE, or would you like your money back" You call that "bad" service. I just wonder where do you get better service ? With microsoft ? - BAAAahahahahaa ! few more notes : clip from infamous Tresy Kilbourne email "They send the units out without testing them (even though they are apparently first-run), discover the problem independently from me but wait until my inquiry before acknowledging it, then tell me to wait over a week until their engineer comes back from vacation, and all they can say is, "sorry for any inconvenience." I'm not planning right of buying dxs at this moment (I will later, when I get better amp etc.) so I haven't followed too closely dxs news, but even I know they are "first run" kind of pre-release for the impatien ones. I know this BECAUSE nirvis told so when they annoused they are accepting advence orders. In words like "we try to get flash roms in time for the first patch, so possible bugs if first patch can be fixed with upgrade that will be provided at no extra charge" I thought that everyone who made advence order knew that they were first ever patch of DXS and were familiar with the murphy's law. AND were old (slinke) customers and knew that they could count on nirvis to fix all the those possible bugs AND provide fix / upgrade FREE or at least at the small cost of the parts (not taking profit for it). Like with Slinke. I feel Nirvis is committed to the development of their products. AND they provide their customers way to directly profit from that progress by providing upgrades rather that putting out a new model of the same equipment every year, like most companies. like the cdp-cx350 is way too sensitive to external movement, cd play jumps when I close stereo racks glass door. Do you think sony will provide uppgrade, rather than putting out a new model next year that will be advertisised "more reliable", "better". Yeah, dxs is expensive, but take minute to think how much it'll cost to manufacture it ever for just parts. I'dd get dxs with all goodies with price of one ordinary halogen lamp of sony projector (it's parts don't cost in taiwan more than 5 dollars if even that and another 5 for labor & transport). michael (A) From dmullin@knotzdigital.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 09:24:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 09:24:50 -0500 From: D. Mullin dmullin@knotzdigital.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Updated the DXS with the firmware patch and all seems well. It has only been running a couple of hours, but with three changers, running in preview mode, there have been no errors :-) From skurzet@uswest.net Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:03:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:03:48 -0800 From: skurzet skurzet@uswest.net Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusing This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF4224.4E471380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having read Tresy Kilbourne's exchanges with Nirvis, I find his = complaints against Nirvis to be unfair and largely unwarranted if not = unreasonable. While I do not have a DXS as yet, I plan to add it to my = system, TK's opinions notwithstanding. I have been a Slinke user for = about a year and have been so pleased with the product, the support from = Nirvis and the company's dedication to product improvement that I have = purchased two more for my very best friends, who are equally pleased = with them. For new arrivals to the Nirvis scene, let me assure you all that in my = experience, Nirvis is an exemplary company. Moreover, I have found Colby = to be an incredibly talented gentleman whose dedication to providing an = excellent product is unmatched by few organizations of any size. I = recommend Nirvis without hesitation. What is most amazing to me, is the fact that Colby has designed the = hardware and written the software simultaneously with working toward a = doctorate in multiple scientific disciplines. One cannot help but admire = such initiative, and marvel at Colby's productivity. If anyone deserves = to be cut a little bit of slack it's Colby. Nevertheless, in my = experience Nirvis is a more customer responsive organization than most = large companies. Stan Kurzet Park City, Utah =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF4224.4E471380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Having read Tresy Kilbourne’s exchanges with Nirvis, I find his = complaints=20 against Nirvis to be unfair and largely unwarranted if not unreasonable. = While I=20 do not have a DXS as yet, I plan to add it to my system, TK’s = opinions=20 notwithstanding. I have been a Slinke user for about a year and have = been so=20 pleased with the product, the support from Nirvis and the = company’s dedication=20 to product improvement that I have purchased two more for my very best = friends,=20 who are equally pleased with them.

For new arrivals to the Nirvis scene, let me assure you all that in = my=20 experience, Nirvis is an exemplary company. Moreover, I have found Colby = to be=20 an incredibly talented gentleman whose dedication to providing an = excellent=20 product is unmatched by few organizations of any size. I recommend = Nirvis=20 without hesitation.

What is most amazing to me, is the fact that Colby has designed the = hardware=20 and written the software simultaneously with working toward a doctorate = in=20 multiple scientific disciplines. One cannot help but admire such = initiative, and=20 marvel at Colby’s productivity. If anyone deserves to be cut a = little bit of=20 slack it’s Colby. Nevertheless, in my experience Nirvis is a more = customer=20 responsive organization than most large companies.

Stan Kurzet

Park City, Utah

 

------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF4224.4E471380-- From kurt@nv.net Thu, 09 Dec 1999 09:18:20 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 09:18:20 -0800 From: Kurt Albershardt kurt@nv.net Subject: [slinkelist] Word about Big companies "Customer Relations" At 06:29 AM 12/9/99 , Michael Holopainen wrote: >8. The next day a angel wearing Sony overalls rang by door bell, and sat >on the couch and took out a remote controller >and 30 minutes later it was fixed. > >He put tv into the service state and suddenly there was hundreds of >previously hidden menus that allowed to adjust everything you can't even >imagine about colors and then some. > >Those wankers at repair service told me "there is now way to adjust the >color in this model" so they changes twice all the panels & insides of >the tv. (well, atleast I got fresh lamp & color panels) For those of you unfamiliar with the intricacies of the consumer electronics biz, most of the manufacturers do handle repairs themselves, but usually only in or near their distribution centers. These facilities are not anywhere near large enough to handle the complete load, so (in accordance with tradition going back to the 1920's and a lot like the automotive dealers) they have 'factory authorized service centers' at local dealers or service centers. This authorization requires the local repair facility to send a technician to the factory-run school every time a new product line comes out but rarely (if ever) actually checks the quality of work done by the service center. These courses are rather expensive ($500-1,200 US plus travel expenses when I was in the business a few years back) so many dealers only send one technician (and there's no guarantee he stays with the shop after he's taken the course.) The manufacturer pays flat rates for labor 'minor' or 'major' repairs and covers the parts used for the job. These rates are typically less than the dealer gets for non-warranty work so there is not a strong incentive to do warranty work at all. One shop I used to manage would only put in a certain amount of time on a warranty job and if we couldn't fix the problem, we'd send the unit on to the manufacturer ourselves, thus cutting our losses. Big-screen TVs complicate the issue, since they can't easily be shipped and the very act of shipping them usually throws off their alignment slightly. All of the Sony units have a so-called service remote or technician remote from which you can make all the adjustments required to get a really good picture. These adjustments used to be analog controls buried inside the set, but nowadays all is digital and remote firmware is far cheaper and less likely to drift than adjustment pots. Most consumers have no idea how a TV picture is really supposed to look, and the manufacturers don't help the situation by putting only a single crosshair on the screen with their R/B centering adjustments. The devil is in the details, and if you look at a full crosshatch pattern on most bigscreens you will be shocked at the degree of misalignment in the corners. This does not even begin to address the issue of color balance. In truth, bigscreen TVs should be sold with an installation that includes as part of the initial setup the adjustments you had done at your house. This would favor the small, high-quality dealer but would kill the megastores who move most of the product nowadays, so the manufacturers usually just keep their mouths shut about the whole matter. You can do this yourself if you are interested. The service remotes usually cost about $100 US and often work with a whole range of models. See http://www.imagingscience.com/ for more info and links to qualified dealers and installers who understand want a properly setup picture is. Background: I used to work in the broadcast TV business where we spent hours every morning tweaking every last one of our $20,000 19" monitors into perfection. Even fifteen years ago, those pictures were pretty darn impressive. From cboles@nirvis.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:53:55 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:53:55 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations I'd prefer to stay out of this melee, but I think it's worthwhile to hopefully improve the understanding of the situation for all those involved (or interested). First, the DXS was a product I started on before David began working here, and the hardware and software aspects of it have been so far completely my undertaking, so any gripes regarding their quality should be directed to me, not David. Credit goes to David for doing a great job creating a simple, sensible manual for the DXS as well as providing a great deal of input about making the UI more user friendly and practical. Regarding the problems with the DXS operating (which are now fixed with current flash upgrade download), this was truly an unfortunate combination of bug introduction on my part and vacation timing. My apologies to all of you who had patiently awaited delivery of the DXS only to have it misbehave randomly for the last two weeks. The DXS code itself had been tested extensively for months before the DXS ever shipped. Unfortuntately, we discovered a flaw in the microcontroller manufacturer's code security scheme and had to add an additional security layer at the 11th hour before our ship date. We tested this for a day, saw no problems, and shipped the units out. Only a minor bug relating to setting IR codesets was reported by a user the day before I left to go hiking in Thailand. I stayed up all night to fix this bug an create version 1.01 (David never released this due to the more serious bug discovered subsequently). I left at 5:30am the next morning for Thailand thinking that all known problems with the DXS were corrected. Had I known of the other bug, I would have stuck around and fixed it. While I was out of contact for the following two weeks, the more serious bug relating to the security surfaced. Unfortunately, there was no way for me to know about or fix the problem until I returned. I can sympathize with any one's frustration with the DXS during this period as I'm a big fan of instant gratification (at least with consumer electronics) myself. I appreciate the patience most of you have expressed over this period. I was able to fix the problem within a couple of hours of coming home, and only delayed its release a day to be sure that the problem was resolved and that the patch software would run smoothly for people. I do however take some offense to the following: >I frankly found Colby to >be snotty, given to curt one-sentence replies and no greeting, informal or >otherwise. Other than that, the presales exchanges were nothing special one >way or another, neither helpful nor unhelpful. > >-- >Tresy Kilbourne >Seattle WA Admittedly, I do write shorter e-mails now than I used to due to the sheer volume that I must respond to, but I don't think I behaved as described from the following transactions. I think anyone who has talked to me on the phone knows I'm a pretty nice guy. (editorializing preceded by a colon): At 11:03 AM 10/24/99 -0700, you wrote: >I am a happy Slink-E owner via Riversong Interactive. I now own 3 >daisy-chained Sony changers, which is causing problems when auto-cuing CDs >on different changers: the upstream, playing changer's output is blocked by >the downstream, paused changer. It may be time to consider a switch such as >your digital DXS. > >My question: what am I looking at in terms of initial configuration and >cost? All my Sony changers have digital optical outputs, which would be nice >to exploit, but not if the cost of doing so is prohibitive. Your ordering >page says I need more than just the DXS base unit. With what I have now, >what do I need to get going? And in addition, what other capabilities will >this device give me? For example, I have a DSS receiver, Onkyo A/V receiver, >and Sony SLV VCR, as well as many X-10 devices scattered throughout our >home. We are consequently drowning in "universal" (not) remotes. Any chance >of bringing some unified control to our home entertainment octopus? >-- >Tresy Kilbourne >Seattle WA Hi Tresy- The base DXS has no inputs or outputs - we custom configure it for you based on your needs. You'd need a minimum of one input and one output module to have a working system. that would provide you with 4 inputs and 4 outputs, which would be sufficient. This would total $449. The DXS can also switch any other DIGITAL sources you may have. It does nothing for analog. The Slink-e itself and our free Windows software can take you a long way towards integrating your X-10 and A/V gear. Right now, Titletrack does not support X-10 or IR. Colby : that was the only mail I had received from Tresy. : About a month later, I discovered a mail to David : that I thought I should throw out a comment on to : give a tip on getting cheap cables. I was in the : middle of DXS assembly programming, so it was a : short one, but better than nothing (David was : answering the main content of the message) and I : thought I could save him some money in the future - At 12:55 PM 11/19/99 -0800, you wrote: >David: > >While I wait for the DXS, could you provide any guidance on the issue of >which interconnect to buy for the output? This will be going into a DAC with >both coax and TOSlink inputs. I bought 3 TOSlink interconnects for my >changers and they cost a fortune; OTOH, I figure they are immune to >electrical interference. What are the pluses and minuses of going coax? > >Thanks for your advice. > >-- >Walter Kilbourne >Seattle WA You can get TOSLink cables for $9 each. Colby http://www.core-sound.com/toslink-cables.html on 11/19/99 1:40 PM, Colby Boles at cboles@nirvis.com wrote: > You can get TOSLink cables for $9 each. That's about $30 less than I paid for them at the local stereo store. Where do I find them at that price? -- Walter Kilbourne Seattle WA at the link i sent in the e-mail. Colby : I guess it was this last message that he considered snotty, : but really I was just in a hurry to get some things done and : had already spent more time than I had planned searching the : web to find the link for him in the previous mail. My apologies : to you Walter / Tresy if you felt that I was brushing you off : - I was only try to help you out with what limited time I had. : The root e-mail you sent didn't require a response from me at all. : I merely was skimming answered messages the help box and noticed : that I had a helpful tip you could use. Colby Nirvis Systems http://www.nirvis.com http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles From sgarrett@technomancer.com Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:16:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:16:36 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Garrett sgarrett@technomancer.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) I got my S-link about a week ago (after a bit of annoyance from the UPS tracking system lying about when it was delivered; thanks for the help, David) and am a very happy customer. After playing with CDJ and finally getting an inventory of all my CDs (woo hoo!), I have a sugestion of a feature for CDJ that I would find very useful. It already has the column for storing the album name (which the CDDB conveniently fills), but unfortunately my (and most Sony) changers will only take 13 characters for the disc title. CDJ in its current form allows you to upload the album title or pull down the names stored in the changer. But I don't want to limit my album names in the database to 13, and I want to be able to more usefully abbreviate the names that I upload. It would be very nice to have a third column in the database that would be the text exchanged with the changer, so I could keep the full name in the Album field. Thanks for a great product! I've still got a lot to learn about it, and it's already making my life much easier. I haven't been able to find any code ported to Linux yet, so that may be a forthcoming project. I read talk of a separate linux list for this thing, but noone ever (that I could find) actually said where it is... -- Scott Garrett mailto:sgarrett@technomancer.com http://www.technomancer.com *** Unix *is* user friendly. It's just picky about who its friends are. From tom.hammond-doel@vixel.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:30:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:30:12 -0800 From: Tom Hammond-Doel tom.hammond-doel@vixel.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations Colby, you're being far too nice. Tresy is your basic a**hole. I can say it - you can't. Your service has been great and Limp Wrist Tresy needs to start understanding how small companies and start ups work. Colby Boles wrote: > I'd prefer to stay out of this melee, but I think it's worthwhile to > hopefully improve the understanding of the situation for all those involved > (or interested). > > First, the DXS was a product I started on before David began working here, > and the hardware and software aspects of it have been so far completely my > undertaking, so any gripes regarding their quality should be directed to > me, not David. Credit goes to David for doing a great job creating a > simple, sensible manual for the DXS as well as providing a great deal of > input about making the UI more user friendly and practical. > > Regarding the problems with the DXS operating (which are now fixed with > current flash upgrade download), this was truly an unfortunate combination > of bug introduction on my part and vacation timing. My apologies to all of > you who had patiently awaited delivery of the DXS only to have it misbehave > randomly for the last two weeks. > > The DXS code itself had been tested extensively for months before the DXS > ever shipped. Unfortuntately, we discovered a flaw in the microcontroller > manufacturer's code security scheme and had to add an additional security > layer at the 11th hour before our ship date. We tested this for a day, saw > no problems, and shipped the units out. Only a minor bug relating to > setting IR codesets was reported by a user the day before I left to go > hiking in Thailand. I stayed up all night to fix this bug an create version > 1.01 (David never released this due to the more serious bug discovered > subsequently). I left at 5:30am the next morning for Thailand thinking that > all known problems with the DXS were corrected. Had I known of the other > bug, I would have stuck around and fixed it. > > While I was out of contact for the following two weeks, the more serious > bug relating to the security surfaced. Unfortunately, there was no way for > me to know about or fix the problem until I returned. I can sympathize with > any one's frustration with the DXS during this period as I'm a big fan of > instant gratification (at least with consumer electronics) myself. I > appreciate the patience most of you have expressed over this period. I was > able to fix the problem within a couple of hours of coming home, and only > delayed its release a day to be sure that the problem was resolved and that > the patch software would run smoothly for people. > > I do however take some offense to the following: > > >I frankly found Colby to > >be snotty, given to curt one-sentence replies and no greeting, informal or > >otherwise. Other than that, the presales exchanges were nothing special one > >way or another, neither helpful nor unhelpful. > > > >-- > >Tresy Kilbourne > >Seattle WA > > Admittedly, I do write shorter e-mails now than I used to due to the sheer > volume that I must respond to, but I don't think I behaved as described > from the following transactions. I think anyone who has talked to me on the > phone knows I'm a pretty nice guy. (editorializing preceded by a colon): > > At 11:03 AM 10/24/99 -0700, you wrote: > >I am a happy Slink-E owner via Riversong Interactive. I now own 3 > >daisy-chained Sony changers, which is causing problems when auto-cuing CDs > >on different changers: the upstream, playing changer's output is blocked by > >the downstream, paused changer. It may be time to consider a switch such as > >your digital DXS. > > > >My question: what am I looking at in terms of initial configuration and > >cost? All my Sony changers have digital optical outputs, which would be nice > >to exploit, but not if the cost of doing so is prohibitive. Your ordering > >page says I need more than just the DXS base unit. With what I have now, > >what do I need to get going? And in addition, what other capabilities will > >this device give me? For example, I have a DSS receiver, Onkyo A/V receiver, > >and Sony SLV VCR, as well as many X-10 devices scattered throughout our > >home. We are consequently drowning in "universal" (not) remotes. Any chance > >of bringing some unified control to our home entertainment octopus? > >-- > >Tresy Kilbourne > >Seattle WA > > Hi Tresy- > > The base DXS has no inputs or outputs - we custom configure it for you > based on your needs. You'd need a minimum of one input and one output > module to have a working system. that would provide you with 4 inputs and 4 > outputs, which would be sufficient. This would total $449. The DXS can also > switch any other DIGITAL sources you may have. It does nothing for analog. > The Slink-e itself and our free Windows software can take you a long way > towards integrating your X-10 and A/V gear. Right now, Titletrack does not > support X-10 or IR. > > Colby > > : that was the only mail I had received from Tresy. > : About a month later, I discovered a mail to David > : that I thought I should throw out a comment on to > : give a tip on getting cheap cables. I was in the > : middle of DXS assembly programming, so it was a > : short one, but better than nothing (David was > : answering the main content of the message) and I > : thought I could save him some money in the future - > > At 12:55 PM 11/19/99 -0800, you wrote: > >David: > > > >While I wait for the DXS, could you provide any guidance on the issue of > >which interconnect to buy for the output? This will be going into a DAC with > >both coax and TOSlink inputs. I bought 3 TOSlink interconnects for my > >changers and they cost a fortune; OTOH, I figure they are immune to > >electrical interference. What are the pluses and minuses of going coax? > > > >Thanks for your advice. > > > >-- > >Walter Kilbourne > >Seattle WA > > You can get TOSLink cables for $9 each. > > Colby > > http://www.core-sound.com/toslink-cables.html > > on 11/19/99 1:40 PM, Colby Boles at cboles@nirvis.com wrote: > > You can get TOSLink cables for $9 each. > That's about $30 less than I paid for them at the local stereo store. Where > do I find them at that price? > -- > Walter Kilbourne > Seattle WA > > at the link i sent in the e-mail. > > Colby > > : I guess it was this last message that he considered snotty, > : but really I was just in a hurry to get some things done and > : had already spent more time than I had planned searching the > : web to find the link for him in the previous mail. My apologies > : to you Walter / Tresy if you felt that I was brushing you off > : - I was only try to help you out with what limited time I had. > : The root e-mail you sent didn't require a response from me at all. > : I merely was skimming answered messages the help box and noticed > : that I had a helpful tip you could use. > > Colby > > Nirvis Systems > http://www.nirvis.com > http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From paulj@qualcomm.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:14:58 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:14:58 -0800 From: Paul K Johnson paulj@qualcomm.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations Small companies and startups? Colby has done a better job than any company I've dealt with, large or small! A few weeks ago I sent an email to Intuit letting them know their historical data for a security was bogus (the stock price of Microsoft did NOT reach 8200!). A week later I got back a "we don't supply technical support" email. paul At 02:30 PM 12/9/99 -0800, Tom Hammond-Doel wrote: >Colby, you're being far too nice. Tresy is your basic a**hole. I can say it - >you can't. Your service has been great and Limp Wrist Tresy needs to start >understanding how small companies and start ups work. > >Colby Boles wrote: > >> I'd prefer to stay out of this melee, but I think it's worthwhile to >> hopefully improve the understanding of the situation for all those involved >> (or interested). >> >> First, the DXS was a product I started on before David began working here, >> and the hardware and software aspects of it have been so far completely my >> undertaking, so any gripes regarding their quality should be directed to >> me, not David. Credit goes to David for doing a great job creating a >> simple, sensible manual for the DXS as well as providing a great deal of >> input about making the UI more user friendly and practical. >> >> Regarding the problems with the DXS operating (which are now fixed with >> current flash upgrade download), this was truly an unfortunate combination >> of bug introduction on my part and vacation timing. My apologies to all of >> you who had patiently awaited delivery of the DXS only to have it misbehave >> randomly for the last two weeks. >> >> The DXS code itself had been tested extensively for months before the DXS >> ever shipped. Unfortuntately, we discovered a flaw in the microcontroller >> manufacturer's code security scheme and had to add an additional security >> layer at the 11th hour before our ship date. We tested this for a day, saw >> no problems, and shipped the units out. Only a minor bug relating to >> setting IR codesets was reported by a user the day before I left to go >> hiking in Thailand. I stayed up all night to fix this bug an create version >> 1.01 (David never released this due to the more serious bug discovered >> subsequently). I left at 5:30am the next morning for Thailand thinking that >> all known problems with the DXS were corrected. Had I known of the other >> bug, I would have stuck around and fixed it. >> >> While I was out of contact for the following two weeks, the more serious >> bug relating to the security surfaced. Unfortunately, there was no way for >> me to know about or fix the problem until I returned. I can sympathize with >> any one's frustration with the DXS during this period as I'm a big fan of >> instant gratification (at least with consumer electronics) myself. I >> appreciate the patience most of you have expressed over this period. I was >> able to fix the problem within a couple of hours of coming home, and only >> delayed its release a day to be sure that the problem was resolved and that >> the patch software would run smoothly for people. >> >> I do however take some offense to the following: >> >> >I frankly found Colby to >> >be snotty, given to curt one-sentence replies and no greeting, informal or >> >otherwise. Other than that, the presales exchanges were nothing special one >> >way or another, neither helpful nor unhelpful. >> > >> >-- >> >Tresy Kilbourne >> >Seattle WA >> >> Admittedly, I do write shorter e-mails now than I used to due to the sheer >> volume that I must respond to, but I don't think I behaved as described >> from the following transactions. I think anyone who has talked to me on the >> phone knows I'm a pretty nice guy. (editorializing preceded by a colon): >> >> At 11:03 AM 10/24/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >I am a happy Slink-E owner via Riversong Interactive. I now own 3 >> >daisy-chained Sony changers, which is causing problems when auto-cuing CDs >> >on different changers: the upstream, playing changer's output is blocked by >> >the downstream, paused changer. It may be time to consider a switch such as >> >your digital DXS. >> > >> >My question: what am I looking at in terms of initial configuration and >> >cost? All my Sony changers have digital optical outputs, which would be nice >> >to exploit, but not if the cost of doing so is prohibitive. Your ordering >> >page says I need more than just the DXS base unit. With what I have now, >> >what do I need to get going? And in addition, what other capabilities will >> >this device give me? For example, I have a DSS receiver, Onkyo A/V receiver, >> >and Sony SLV VCR, as well as many X-10 devices scattered throughout our >> >home. We are consequently drowning in "universal" (not) remotes. Any chance >> >of bringing some unified control to our home entertainment octopus? >> >-- >> >Tresy Kilbourne >> >Seattle WA >> >> Hi Tresy- >> >> The base DXS has no inputs or outputs - we custom configure it for you >> based on your needs. You'd need a minimum of one input and one output >> module to have a working system. that would provide you with 4 inputs and 4 >> outputs, which would be sufficient. This would total $449. The DXS can also >> switch any other DIGITAL sources you may have. It does nothing for analog. >> The Slink-e itself and our free Windows software can take you a long way >> towards integrating your X-10 and A/V gear. Right now, Titletrack does not >> support X-10 or IR. >> >> Colby >> >> : that was the only mail I had received from Tresy. >> : About a month later, I discovered a mail to David >> : that I thought I should throw out a comment on to >> : give a tip on getting cheap cables. I was in the >> : middle of DXS assembly programming, so it was a >> : short one, but better than nothing (David was >> : answering the main content of the message) and I >> : thought I could save him some money in the future - >> >> At 12:55 PM 11/19/99 -0800, you wrote: >> >David: >> > >> >While I wait for the DXS, could you provide any guidance on the issue of >> >which interconnect to buy for the output? This will be going into a DAC with >> >both coax and TOSlink inputs. I bought 3 TOSlink interconnects for my >> >changers and they cost a fortune; OTOH, I figure they are immune to >> >electrical interference. What are the pluses and minuses of going coax? >> > >> >Thanks for your advice. >> > >> >-- >> >Walter Kilbourne >> >Seattle WA >> >> You can get TOSLink cables for $9 each. >> >> Colby >> >> http://www.core-sound.com/toslink-cables.html >> >> on 11/19/99 1:40 PM, Colby Boles at cboles@nirvis.com wrote: >> > You can get TOSLink cables for $9 each. >> That's about $30 less than I paid for them at the local stereo store. Where >> do I find them at that price? >> -- >> Walter Kilbourne >> Seattle WA >> >> at the link i sent in the e-mail. >> >> Colby >> >> : I guess it was this last message that he considered snotty, >> : but really I was just in a hurry to get some things done and >> : had already spent more time than I had planned searching the >> : web to find the link for him in the previous mail. My apologies >> : to you Walter / Tresy if you felt that I was brushing you off >> : - I was only try to help you out with what limited time I had. >> : The root e-mail you sent didn't require a response from me at all. >> : I merely was skimming answered messages the help box and noticed >> : that I had a helpful tip you could use. >> >> Colby >> >> Nirvis Systems >> http://www.nirvis.com >> http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles >> >> _______________________________________________ >> slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >> http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From sonnie@casema.net Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:28:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:28:03 +0100 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke Adapter Max Voltage Question... Hi Colby, I know that the Slinke Adapter supplies 9 VDC and that the casing suggests the same, However I'm going to set my automation system up in a 19" rack environment and therefore would prefer to use my normal "PC" power supply - 5 and 12 VDC. I believe you use an 7805 voltage regulator, which normally accepts a maximum of 35 VDC, so I was wondering if connecting the Slinke to the 12 VDC (PC Power supply) would be a problem... Thanks, Jeroen PS> Kudos to David on handling the Treasy situation. I've been a Customer Services/ Technical Support Trainer/Consultant for years and David would definitely be regarded top of class. Our ranking based on this case would be 9.5 or in US standards A- Which we see rarely in the industry! Its a good thing he is so valuable to this community and that I love your products so much, else I would probably have hired him away from you ;-) From kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 16:04:15 PST Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 16:04:15 PST From: Ken Geoffrion kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations Not to kick a dead horse, but I have to add for the benefit of any potential customers, that Nirvis is a great company and the Slink-e is a great product! Where else can you buy a product, have a few questions, and have the person who designed the product and wrote the software spend an hour or so on the phone with you? Nowhere, I bet. That's exactly what Colby did for me, and as I'm hearing, he's done this for a lot of people. A grateful, satisfied customer. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cboles@nirvis.com Thu, 09 Dec 1999 16:12:10 -0800 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 16:12:10 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke Adapter Max Voltage Question... Hi Jeroen- 12VDC is fine because our AC adapter typically puts out this voltage under the typical loading of the Slink-e. One point to remember when connecting to a PC power supply though is that the electrical isolation the Slink-e once had via the AC adapter and optically isolated RS-232 port will be lost. This can cause problems with ground loops in your system. Colby At 12:28 AM 12/10/99 +0100, Sonnie wrote: >Hi Colby, > >I know that the Slinke Adapter supplies 9 VDC and that the casing suggests >the same, > >However I'm going to set my automation system up in a 19" rack environment >and therefore would prefer to use my normal "PC" power supply - 5 and 12 >VDC. > >I believe you use an 7805 voltage regulator, which normally accepts a >maximum of 35 VDC, so I was wondering if connecting the Slinke to the 12 VDC >(PC Power supply) would be a problem... > >Thanks, > >Jeroen > >PS> Kudos to David on handling the Treasy situation. I've been a Customer >Services/ Technical Support Trainer/Consultant for years and David would >definitely be regarded top of class. Our ranking based on this case would be >9.5 or in US standards A- >Which we see rarely in the industry! >Its a good thing he is so valuable to this community and that I love your >products so much, else I would probably have hired him away from you ;-) > > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist Nirvis Systems http://www.nirvis.com http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles From mneese1@carolina.rr.com Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:32:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:32:41 -0500 From: Michael Neese mneese1@carolina.rr.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations I glad he posted all the exchanges, because after reading them I have to say that the customer support from Nirvis was right-on. Keep up the good work. Just as a side note. I had a very big party this past weekend and used my music setup (ie which I had to break down and setup at another location) 1 Sony 300 and a 240. With the slink box and my PC people at the party were blown away with the setup. I had a monitor in plain view and people could see the play list and songs that were playing and ones that were coming up. It work flawless and I turned out the best back to back, nearly hands off, non stop music that I have ever done. The only thing that was visible was the speakers and the monitor. Never had so much fun. Great product. Keep up the great work. Michael Neese ----- Original Message ----- From: D. Mullin To: Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations > I believe this guy may have more problems than just his DXS unit :-) > I wish he posted the name of the other company so we can warn them he is > coming! > That was one of the more ridiculous things I have read in a while. I am > glad he decided to share. > Hats off to David, Colby, and Nirvis....and the friend who told him to post. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From mneese1@carolina.rr.com Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:45:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:45:11 -0500 From: Michael Neese mneese1@carolina.rr.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations ----- Original Message ----- From: Tresy Kilbourne To: Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 11:58 PM Subject: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations > As one of the unfortunates who purchased the severely flawed DXS last month > (additionally flawed in my case by a defective display unrelated to the > firmware bug), I want to share the following backchannel communication I had > with another DXS sufferer. He felt more kindly towards Nirvis about its > handling of the screwup than I did, but who nonetheless encouraged me to > post this to the list. It is followed by my entire correspondence with > Nirvis. Together they form what some might consider a window on Nivis' > indifferent attitude towards keeping customers happy, or it might not. For > me it is just one last unfinished item before I check out of here as a > customer of Nirivis for good. As luck and the desperation borne of sheer > frustration would have it I was able to find an infinitely preferable, > cheaper and better solution to my problems than the bug-filled DXS, and I am > taking my business to that company instead. > > Whatever your opinion about this conflict, I am uninterested in hearing > about it, so please do not send me any followup email on the subject. I'm > fed up with the whole experience and have no desire to revisit it. I thought you had no desire to revisit this issue? Seem that is not true and I have seem WAY TOO many messages from you posted to this list after you indicated that you were finished with the issue. Move on, it is really not worth that much stress. Lot of stuff deleted. Michael Neese From mneese1@carolina.rr.com Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:04:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:04:05 -0500 From: Michael Neese mneese1@carolina.rr.com Subject: [slinkelist] cdp-cx100 question Yes I had one that had a digital out. I sold it because of the missing a-1. And you are right much better player and also had a setting that could set the level output for each CD. Michael Neese ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Holopainen To: Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 7:04 AM Subject: [slinkelist] cdp-cx100 question > does anyone know if Sony Cdp-cx100 has a digital out ? > > (Great piece of hardware, more solid structure, better sound quality, > faster disk change, 2-3 times faster than cx350 [6sec vs. 16sec], Far > better slots for cd's, you can travel with loaded player) > > Too bad it don't have control a-1. > > -michael (A) > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From BARRY_LIPSKY_at_FRANKLIN__NJ@smtpgwy.franklin.com Fri, 10 Dec 99 08:44:10 EST Date: Fri, 10 Dec 99 08:44:10 EST From: BARRY_LIPSKY_at_FRANKLIN__NJ@smtpgwy.franklin.com BARRY_LIPSKY_at_FRANKLIN__NJ@smtpgwy.franklin.com Subject: Re[2]: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Thanks. They did. Got it and even free overnight shipping! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Author: "Ken Geoffrion" at ~SMTPGWY Date: 12/08/1999 12:18 PM And, I've discovered that Cameraworld (who I feel has a little better service and return policy) will match SupremeVideo's prices. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sonnie" To: "Taylor Gautier" , Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:30:06 +0100 I received this quote for $ 599, outlined below.... (Didn't buy one yet though, waiting on Colby's experiances before deciding...) Cheers, Jeroen ------- The price for the sony DVPCX850D is $599 More information on the requested item(s) can be found at http://www.supremevideo.com/PRICING.HTM Please take the time to complete our 30-second Quote Survey, and let us know how we're doing: http://supremevideo.com/cgi-bin/qs1.pl?d=991123&&s=williamm&m=DVPCX850D If you are in the NY Tri-State Area, be sure to visit our showroom on the Lower East Side of Manhattan at 37 Essex st. If you're in town, come on by and say Hi! If you have any further questions or wish to place an order please feel free to contact me at 800-323-7669 ext.2206 Thanks William M. williamm@supremevideo.com http://www.supremevideo.com 800-323-7669 x 2206 212-475-2450 Fax 212-475-3904 ----------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Taylor Gautier Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 2:21 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D Not sure if they still offer this price, but I believe www.oade.com was selling it for $625. I ended up getting mine for $680 from crutchfield with a one time only 15% deal. -t ----- Original Message ----- From: Colby Boles To: Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Extra DVP-CX850D > Sold. Sorry for the limited window of opportunity. > > Colby > > At 05:02 PM 12/7/99 -0800, Colby Boles wrote: > > >cameraworld.com accidentally sent me an extra DVP-CX850D 200-disc DVD > >changer that I don't need. I bought it before their prices went up, so I > >can sell it to anyone who is interested for $699 + shipping. It's still > >unopened in the original box. The current price on their site is $799. > > > >send me a mail at cboles@nirvis.com if you're interested... > > > >Colby > >Nirvis Systems > >http://www.nirvis.com > >http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > Nirvis Systems > http://www.nirvis.com > http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From alexanders@rocketmail.com Fri, 10 Dec 1999 06:24:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 06:24:35 -0800 (PST) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Kables, Kodes, Kudos and Kolby (all but 1 should be C) Just an FYI, I think core sound, like Nirvis is a small company. I bought my toslink cables from them as well, and although not impressive looking, you can't beat em for $9.. Word of caution though, I gave them my CC and then didn't hear boo for two weeks. As it turns out, they had gone on vacation, however when they returned they shipped the order right out. http://www.core-sound.com/toslink-cables.html Colby, thanks for an excellent product, and great support. BTW I started on an app to create transmit IR device files, basically a couple of dialog boxes and your vb control (it is a hair more automated then cutting and pasting from the log file in CDJ) Actually anyone trying to make transmit IR files in the meantime, this is the best method... Load the generic header for your device in CDJ Turn on logging step through your buttons one by one Close CDJ Edit the log file Add the tags as per the doc Away you go Are you guys ever going to make an app to do this? Or should I spend a weekend sometime and make it shareable? Sort of low motivation, once I created the files manually, there was not a lot of reason to write the code. KJA ===== Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From keith.chandler@bigfoot.com Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:34:53 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:34:53 -0600 From: Keith keith.chandler@bigfoot.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) CDJ has that already....there is a details tab near the bottom right of CDJ. Whith an album selected, click on the details tab, then fill in the 13 characters you want displayed in the box labled DISC MEMO. This will be uploaded to the player(s). I have noticed that sometimes the info you enter into the details tab doesnt seem to 'stick', so after I enter the info, I click on another album right away, and that seems to work. -snip- > will only take 13 characters for the disc title. CDJ in its current form > allows you to upload the album title or pull down the names stored in the > changer. But I don't want to limit my album names in the database to 13, > and I want to be able to more usefully abbreviate the names that I upload. > It would be very nice to have a third column in the database that would be > the text exchanged with the changer, so I could keep the full name in the > Album field. -snip- From mneese1@carolina.rr.com Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:14:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:14:14 -0500 From: Michael Neese mneese1@carolina.rr.com Subject: Fw: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Neese" To: Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee Hart" > To: "'Michael Neese'" > Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 2:16 AM > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations > > > > How do you move the changers w/o dislodging the CDs? I wasn't able to move > my 2 changers across the room without shaking a few CDs loose which became a > real problem. > > > > Lee > > I pick up the player and always carry it with the back-end lower than the > front and never tilt the player to either side. The other thing that is > REQUIRED after moving some distance is to remove the top cover (ie metal) > and verify that no discs have moved from there slots. > With the cover removed you can see were the disc will slide from the slots > if tilted in the wrong direction. I learn this the hard way by moving and > then powering up with disc jammed in the player. Actually after doing this I > realized that the best way to load or unload discs is by removing the top > cover and just drop them in. > > > Michael Neese > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com] On > Behalf Of Michael Neese > > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 6:33 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com; D. Mullin > > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] DXSgusting Customer Relations > > > > I glad he posted all the exchanges, because after reading them I have to > say > > that the customer support from Nirvis was right-on. Keep up the good work. > > > > Just as a side note. I had a very big party this past weekend and used my > > music setup (ie which I had to break down and setup at another location) 1 > > Sony 300 and a 240. With the slink box and my PC people at the party were > > blown away with the setup. I had a monitor in plain view and people could > > see the play list and songs that were playing and ones that were coming > up. > > It work flawless and I turned out the best back to back, nearly hands off, > > non stop music that I have ever done. The only thing that was visible was > > the speakers and the monitor. Never had so much fun. Great product. Keep > up > > the great work. > > > > > From cboles@nirvis.com Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:46:02 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:46:02 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Moving chnagers I find that all I have to do to move the changers is make sure no disc is loaded in the transport. The permanent magnet hub clamp in the transport can easily drop the disc if shaken. You can do this by opening the front door, letting the carousel spin, closing the door, and powering down the unit before it can reload a disc. Of course, you need to keep the player fairly level too... Colby > > > > > How do you move the changers w/o dislodging the CDs? I wasn't able to >move > > my 2 changers across the room without shaking a few CDs loose which became >a > > real problem. > > > > > > Lee > > > > I pick up the player and always carry it with the back-end lower than the > > front and never tilt the player to either side. The other thing that is > > REQUIRED after moving some distance is to remove the top cover (ie metal) > > and verify that no discs have moved from there slots. > > With the cover removed you can see were the disc will slide from the slots > > if tilted in the wrong direction. I learn this the hard way by moving and > > then powering up with disc jammed in the player. Actually after doing this >I > > realized that the best way to load or unload discs is by removing the top > > cover and just drop them in. > > > > > > Michael Neese > > > Nirvis Systems http://www.nirvis.com http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles From ibrahim@yahoo.com Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:00:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:00:15 -0800 (PST) From: Nabeel Ibrahim ibrahim@yahoo.com Subject: [slinkelist] Mixer for sale For those of you looking for a low-cost mixer... Pictures at: http://www.stanford.edu/~ibrahim/mixer/ Inputs: 3 RCA inputs Microphone 12V AC Output: RCA Headphone Pan, voiceover, crossfade between channels 1 and 2 I had two CD jukeboxes and my PC hooked up to this mixer. It worked very well and the only reason I'm selling it is because I got an MD player and ran out of inputs. Price: $60 obo (FREE SHIPPING!) Please respond to ibrahim@leland.stanford.edu if interested. Nabeel Ibrahim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From parkdog@ix.netcom.com Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:46:55 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:46:55 -0600 From: Marc Parker parkdog@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] MD Manager Can anyone suggest a solution regarding MD Manager. I have tried sending E-Mail to Will at his address given on the Web site, but get back an error indicating he is no longer at that address. I would REALLY like to use this program. This is what I sent: Hi, I'm trying to use your program MD Manager, but with no luck. Could you shed some light on why I might be having problems. I have a Sony 920 and it is hooked directly into the Nirvis Slink-E. The Slink-E is connected to my PC and Slink-E Serve sees the Slink-e on Com3. I unzipped your file that I downloaded into it's own folder. It contains 4 files: Mdmanager.exe, Sonymdir.cde Sonymsl.cde Readme.txt When I double click on the MdManager file nothing happens. I have restarted the computer, I have launched Slink-E Serve. CDJ runs OK but is NOT running when I try Md Manager. What Am I doing wrong? I have the latest version of the Nirvis software installed. Thanks Parker From ci@csi.com Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:32:40 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:32:40 -0800 From: Allen Cobb ci@csi.com Subject: [slinkelist] Kables, Kodes, Kudos and Kolby (all but 1 should be C) For anyone who is interested, numerous electronic musical instrument / equipment suppliers carry Toslink cables in the low price ranges (unlike say, $35-50 at places like Radio Shack or Circuit City). The biggest one is sweetwater sound: www.sweetwater.com, who have a 6'6" cable for $14, and often have specials or lesser-known brands for less (a recent sale flier had Toslinks cheaper, if I remember correctly). They also have good sales and service people, and will often lower a price if you mention that you've seen it for less, or heard they just had a sale. Other similar suppliers include Banana, Musician's Friend, Guitar Center, West LA Music, etc. These are the companies that sell MIDI keyboard, guitars, performance amps, drums, live sound gear, etc. ac -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of keith alexander Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 6:25 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Kables, Kodes, Kudos and Kolby (all but 1 should be C) Just an FYI, I think core sound, like Nirvis is a small company. I bought my toslink cables from them as well, and although not impressive looking, you can't beat em for $9.. Word of caution though, I gave them my CC and then didn't hear boo for two weeks. As it turns out, they had gone on vacation, however when they returned they shipped the order right out. http://www.core-sound.com/toslink-cables.html [....] From paul.rimmer@home.com Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:00:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:00:16 -0700 From: Paul.Rimmer paul.rimmer@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Help with advanced setup Neil, Did you ever get any responses regarding this? I am at the same stage with my 50ES and would love to get the same info you requested. The codes I obtained where: nomatch:sl1[C00F] nomatch:sl1[C87002160190] nomatch:sl1[C30F] nomatch:sl1[CB70000000] I had a hard time getting these codes. Using the Slink-e Data Send and Iterate features was a hit and miss operation. Sometimes it would work, other times it wouldn't. After much messing around I was able to get the above codes. Thanks, Paul > I'm trying to get all the possible actions I can do with my gear. So > far I've started with my amp Sony DA555ES. > > These are the codes I got responses with: > > nomatch:sl1[C00F] > nomatch:sl1[C87002160190] > nomatch:sl1[C30F] > nomatch:sl1[CB70190000] > > > > I guess before I get to deep is there a "tutorial" that will guide me > though all the stuff I need to do to "learn" new gear? > > general questions: > 1) How do I tell from above info what controls what? > 2) How do I figure out what commands I can issue for each ID? > > > I guess I'm basically looking for a beginners guide to advanced > configuration. :) > > > Thanks, > Neil From Welfringer@Access1.net Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:19:05 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:19:05 -0800 From: Jon Welfringer Welfringer@Access1.net Subject: [slinkelist] Help with advanced setup This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AD15696FF58636BAF302C3F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is a file I created for my 50ES. It will work for the 555 just as well. This was the most time consuming files I've had to create since the various AMP functions actually are performed with multiple prefixes. Because of this, you have to iterate a lot of codes. I have a little app I wrote that handles this and also creates the CDE file. When I get time, I plan on documenting it and sending it to the BBS. Until then, I hope the output file helps you. - Jon "Paul.Rimmer" wrote: > > Neil, > > Did you ever get any responses regarding this? I am at the same stage with > my 50ES and would love to get the same info you requested. > > The codes I obtained where: > nomatch:sl1[C00F] > nomatch:sl1[C87002160190] > nomatch:sl1[C30F] > nomatch:sl1[CB70000000] > > I had a hard time getting these codes. Using the Slink-e Data Send and > Iterate features was a hit and miss operation. Sometimes it would work, > other times it wouldn't. 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All I seem to be getting is the CD name, no = artist or track. When I scroll thru the tracks it calls them Track 1, = Track 2, etc. - I would like the actual song to appear. Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF44DD.F029DDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know if it is possible to = get the track=20 information to upload to the player?  All I seem to be getting is = the CD=20 name, no artist or track.  When I scroll thru the tracks it calls = them=20 Track 1, Track 2, etc. - I would like the actual song to = appear.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF44DD.F029DDC0-- From gtang@gtcons.com Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:30:31 -0800 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:30:31 -0800 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CX-350 test upload question This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0134_01BF44C6.96D63FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it's a revisited issue. That player does not have track and artist memo. The only way to get track and artist information is through CD Text where the information is stored on the CD. George Tang -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of MAC Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 5:18 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CX-350 test upload question Does anyone know if it is possible to get the track information to upload to the player? All I seem to be getting is the CD name, no artist or track. When I scroll thru the tracks it calls them Track 1, Track 2, etc. - I would like the actual song to appear. Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0134_01BF44C6.96D63FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
it's a=20 revisited issue.  That player does not have track and artist = memo. =20 The only way to get track and artist information is through CD Text = where the=20 information is stored on the CD.
 
George=20 Tang
 
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From: = slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of = MAC
Sent:=20 Sunday, December 12, 1999 5:18 PM
To:=20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CX-350 test = upload=20 question

Does anyone know if it is possible to = get the=20 track information to upload to the player?  All I seem to be = getting is=20 the CD name, no artist or track.  When I scroll thru the tracks = it calls=20 them Track 1, Track 2, etc. - I would like the actual song to=20 appear.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0134_01BF44C6.96D63FA0-- From will@airmail.net Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:27:19 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:27:19 -0600 From: William Hollingworth will@airmail.net Subject: [slinkelist] MiniDisc Manager V0.96 (991210) available A non-beta version of my updated MiniDisc Manager software for use with Sony slink MD Recorders is now available for free download from my web site. http://web2.airmail.net/will/ This update, V0.96 (991210), adds a new feature called "CDJ Playlist Recorder" to automate the recording of CD and MP3 tracks to MD as well as automatic titling of each track. It uses CDJ to generate the playlist, and control the playing of all the CD and MP3 tracks. There are still some minor problems with occasional short blank tracks, but these can be easily deleted using the editing functions. I'm always interested in hearing feedback on your experience with this software. Will From mypeter@bigfoot.com Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:54:54 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:54:54 -0800 From: Peter Myers mypeter@bigfoot.com Subject: [slinkelist] changing discs library info i have one disc that cddb incorrectly id'. i deleted it from the library, but when i try to have cdj identify it again, it ignores that slot. if i do a search for discs and force it to that slot, it looks at the disc, and reports that it is id'ing it. however no entry appears for that slot. it appears that the slot is empty. when i play the disc from cdj, it displays the artwork for the incorrectly id'd disc. overall it is pretty amazing as it correctly id'd all but one of the roughly 450 of 500 discs that it found a match for. From curlybrian@yahoo.com Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:27:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:27:17 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Walker curlybrian@yahoo.com Subject: [slinkelist] Problem with FireCracker from within CDJ I can't seem to get CDJ to send commands to my Firecracker X-10 transmitter (hey, for 6 bucks from their web site, why not try it?). I can use the Firecracker software and it works fine. Slinke-Server sees the X-10 device on COM3 (Slink-e is on COM 1). I have added the CM11a device to CDJ. I am not loading the firecracker software at the same time. I am using the latest version of CDJ on Windows 95. When I type CM11a:OFF[H1] in the send line of the command(debug? whatever) window of CDJ it doesn't show the command in the log and the appliance does not turn off. In fact if I type CM11a: with any text following, it behaves with the same deaf reaction. Other CDJ commands seem to work OK in this fashion. I know other people are using X-10 so I must be missing something simple. Any suggestions? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From gtang@gtcons.com Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:11:09 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:11:09 -0800 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] Problem with FireCracker from within CDJ The X10 FireCracker and CM11a is 2 completely different product with different computer interface. CDJ is designed to be used with CM11a and not FireCracker. However, Colby and David, this might be a nice feature to add to the next version of CDJ. George Tang -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Brian Walker Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 9:27 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Problem with FireCracker from within CDJ I can't seem to get CDJ to send commands to my Firecracker X-10 transmitter (hey, for 6 bucks from their web site, why not try it?). I can use the Firecracker software and it works fine. Slinke-Server sees the X-10 device on COM3 (Slink-e is on COM 1). I have added the CM11a device to CDJ. I am not loading the firecracker software at the same time. I am using the latest version of CDJ on Windows 95. When I type CM11a:OFF[H1] in the send line of the command(debug? whatever) window of CDJ it doesn't show the command in the log and the appliance does not turn off. In fact if I type CM11a: with any text following, it behaves with the same deaf reaction. Other CDJ commands seem to work OK in this fashion. I know other people are using X-10 so I must be missing something simple. Any suggestions? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From cboles@nirvis.com Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:38:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:38:57 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Problem with FireCracker from within CDJ Brian- The Firecracker is a CM17 - different than the CM11a product. It is not currently supported by Slinkeserv / CDJ. Colby 27 AM 12/13/99 -0800, Brian Walker wrote: >I can't seem to get CDJ to send commands to my >Firecracker X-10 transmitter (hey, for 6 bucks from >their web site, why not try it?). I can use the >Firecracker software and it works fine. Slinke-Server >sees the X-10 device on COM3 (Slink-e is on COM 1). I >have added the CM11a device to CDJ. I am not loading >the firecracker software at the same time. I am using >the latest version of CDJ on Windows 95. > >When I type CM11a:OFF[H1] in the send line of the >command(debug? whatever) window of CDJ it doesn't show >the command in the log and the appliance does not turn >off. In fact if I type CM11a: with any text >following, it behaves with the same deaf reaction. >Other CDJ commands seem to work OK in this fashion. > >I know other people are using X-10 so I must be >missing something simple. Any suggestions? > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. >Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist Nirvis Systems http://www.nirvis.com http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles From parkdog@ix.netcom.com Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:12:15 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:12:15 -0600 From: Marc Parker parkdog@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] Thank You Will! This is an open Thank You to Will Hollingworth for his FANTASTIC MiniDisc Manager program. I have just "discovered" this program and what a find! My family is having a tremendous amount of fun making discs of their favorite Christmas music. This program is a true gem. And his new support for CDJ playlists make this process so easy and foolproof even my Wife is able to use it. The ULTIMATE compliment! Thank you Will for this incredibly great piece of software. Happy Holidays and thanks for the Christmas present! The Parker Family From steve@pins.co.uk Tue, 14 Dec 1999 02:23:00 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 02:23:00 -0000 From: Steve Burke steve@pins.co.uk Subject: [slinkelist] Thank You Will! It'd wholeheartedly like to second this ! My wife has also taken over both the PC and Hi-Fi on an almost full time basis too!... making literally a hundred MiniDiscs for her car player. now all I need to do is get her out driving the thing so I can get back to some kind of normality with my toys :-) Many Thanks Will ! Best Regards... Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Marc Parker > Sent: 14 December 1999 02:12 > To: William Hollingworth; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Thank You Will! > > > This is an open Thank You to Will Hollingworth for his FANTASTIC MiniDisc > Manager program. > > I have just "discovered" this program and what a find! My family is having a > tremendous amount of fun making discs of their favorite Christmas music. > This program is a true gem. > > And his new support for CDJ playlists make this process so easy and > foolproof even my Wife is able to use it. The ULTIMATE compliment! > > Thank you Will for this incredibly great piece of software. > > Happy Holidays and thanks for the Christmas present! > > The Parker Family > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:26:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:26:04 -0500 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] New version of Sony amp S-Link receive code file for STR-DE925 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF461D.A06C20E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01BF461D.A07548A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01BF461D.A07548A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wasted a good bit of time figuring out most of the mysterious "mode" = response on my Sony STR-DE925. I still don't know what the last two = nybbles mean, but those seem to be the same all the time: my guess is = they indicate whether there is digital in/out available for the source, = or something like that. Anyway, you can fully identify incoming and = outgoing sources using the new file. Hope it helps. ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01BF461D.A07548A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wasted a good bit of time figuring = out most of=20 the mysterious "mode" response on my Sony STR-DE925.  I = still=20 don't know what the last two nybbles mean, but those seem to be the same = all the=20 time: my guess is they indicate whether there is digital in/out = available for=20 the source, or something like that.  Anyway, you can fully identify = incoming and outgoing sources using the new file.  Hope it=20 helps.
------=_NextPart_001_0006_01BF461D.A07548A0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF461D.A06C20E0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="ampslr.cde" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ampslr.cde" # Sony S-link commands for the AV Amp name=3Dampsls type=3DSLINK #Device ID's: prefix=3D11001000 suffix=3D 00000101:ignored 00001110:unavailable=20 00001111:error 00101110:power_on 00101111:power_off 01100001aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhhiiiijjjj:device_type # STR-DE805 gives 0F0067000B 01110000000000000001000000000001gggghhhh:tuner-video1 01110000000000010001000000000001gggghhhh:phono-video1 01110000000000100001000000000001gggghhhh:cd-video1 01110000000000110001000000000001gggghhhh:dat-video1 01110000000001000001000000000001gggghhhh:md-video1 01110000000001010001000000000001gggghhhh:tape-video1 01110000000001110001000000000001gggghhhh:digital-video1 01110000000000000001000100000001gggghhhh:tuner-video2 01110000000000010001000100000001gggghhhh:phono-video2 01110000000000100001000100000001gggghhhh:cd-video2 01110000000000110001000100000001gggghhhh:dat-video2 01110000000001000001000100000001gggghhhh:md-video2 01110000000001010001000100000001gggghhhh:tape-video2 01110000000001110001000100000001gggghhhh:digital-video2 01110000000000000001001000000001gggghhhh:tuner-video3 01110000000000010001001000000001gggghhhh:phono-video3 01110000000000100001001000000001gggghhhh:cd-video3 01110000000000110001001000000001gggghhhh:dat-video3 01110000000001000001001000000001gggghhhh:md-video3 01110000000001010001001000000001gggghhhh:tape-video3 01110000000001110001001000000001gggghhhh:digital-video3 01110000000000000001011000000001gggghhhh:tuner-dbs 01110000000000010001011000000001gggghhhh:phono-dbs 01110000000000100001011000000001gggghhhh:cd-dbs 01110000000000110001011000000001gggghhhh:dat-dbs 01110000000001000001011000000001gggghhhh:md-dbs 01110000000001010001011000000001gggghhhh:tape-dbs 01110000000001110001011100000001gggghhhh:digital-dbs 01110000000000000001010100000001gggghhhh:tuner-ld 01110000000000010001011100000001gggghhhh:phono-ld 01110000000000100001010100000001gggghhhh:cd-ld 01110000000000110001010100000001gggghhhh:dat-ld 01110000000001000001010100000001gggghhhh:md-ld 01110000000001010001010100000001gggghhhh:tape-ld 01110000000001110001010100000001gggghhhh:digital-ld 01110000000000000001100100000001gggghhhh:tuner-dvd 01110000000000010001100100000001gggghhhh:phono-dvd 01110000000000100001100100000001gggghhhh:cd-dvd 01110000000000110001100100000001gggghhhh:dat-dvd 01110000000001000001100100000001gggghhhh:md-dvd 01110000000001010001100100000001gggghhhh:tape-dvd 01110000000001110001100100000001gggghhhh:digital-dvd 01110000000100000001000000000001gggghhhh:video1 01110000000100010001000100000001gggghhhh:video2 01110000000100100001001000000001gggghhhh:video3 01110000000101010001010100000001gggghhhh:ld 01110000000101100001011000000001gggghhhh:dbs 01110000000110010001100100000001gggghhhh:dvd 01110000000000000001000000000011gggghhhh:tuner-video1-mute 01110000000000010001000000000011gggghhhh:phono-video1-mute 01110000000000100001000000000011gggghhhh:cd-video1-mute 01110000000000110001000000000011gggghhhh:dat-video1-mute 01110000000001000001000000000011gggghhhh:md-video1-mute 01110000000001010001000000000011gggghhhh:tape-video1-mute 01110000000001110001000000000011gggghhhh:digital-video1-mute 01110000000000000001000100000011gggghhhh:tuner-video2-mute 01110000000000010001000100000011gggghhhh:phono-video2-mute 01110000000000100001000100000011gggghhhh:cd-video2-mute 01110000000000110001000100000011gggghhhh:dat-video2-mute 01110000000001000001000100000011gggghhhh:md-video2-mute 01110000000001010001000100000011gggghhhh:tape-video2-mute 01110000000001110001000100000011gggghhhh:digital-video2-mute 01110000000000000001001000000011gggghhhh:tuner-video3-mute 01110000000000010001001000000011gggghhhh:phono-video3-mute 01110000000000100001001000000011gggghhhh:cd-video3-mute 01110000000000110001001000000011gggghhhh:dat-video3-mute 01110000000001000001001000000011gggghhhh:md-video3-mute 01110000000001010001001000000011gggghhhh:tape-video3-mute 01110000000001110001001000000011gggghhhh:digital-video3-mute 01110000000000000001011000000011gggghhhh:tuner-dbs-mute 01110000000000010001011000000011gggghhhh:phono-dbs-mute 01110000000000100001011000000011gggghhhh:cd-dbs-mute 01110000000000110001011000000011gggghhhh:dat-dbs-mute 01110000000001000001011000000011gggghhhh:md-dbs-mute 01110000000001010001011000000011gggghhhh:tape-dbs-mute 01110000000001110001011100000011gggghhhh:digital-dbs-mute 01110000000000000001010100000011gggghhhh:tuner-ld-mute 01110000000000010001010100000011gggghhhh:phono-ld-mute 01110000000000100001010100000011gggghhhh:cd-ld-mute 01110000000000110001010100000011gggghhhh:dat-ld-mute 01110000000001000001010100000011gggghhhh:md-ld-mute 01110000000001010001010100000011gggghhhh:tape-ld-mute 01110000000001110001010100000011gggghhhh:digital-ld-mute 01110000000000000001100100000011gggghhhh:tuner-dvd-mute 01110000000000010001100100000011gggghhhh:phono-dvd-mute 01110000000000100001100100000011gggghhhh:cd-dvd-mute 01110000000000110001100100000011gggghhhh:dat-dvd-mute 01110000000001000001100100000011gggghhhh:md-dvd-mute 01110000000001010001100100000011gggghhhh:tape-dvd-mute 01110000000001110001100100000011gggghhhh:digital-dvd-mute 01110000000100000001000000000011gggghhhh:video1-mute 01110000000100010001000100000011gggghhhh:video2-mute 01110000000100100001001000000011gggghhhh:video3-mute 01110000000101100001011000000011gggghhhh:dbs-mute 01110000000101010001010100000011gggghhhh:ld 01110000000110010001100100000011gggghhhh:dvd-mute 01110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhh:mode # A/B =3D selected audio source # A =3D 0:audio 1:audio/video # B =3D source name- # 00=3Dtuner # 01=3Dphono # 02=3Dcd # 03=3Ddat # 04=3Dmd # 05=3Dtape # 07=3Ddigital audio # 10=3Dvideo1 # 11=3Dvideo2 # 12=3Dvideo3 # 16=3Ddbs # 15=3Dld # 19=3Ddvd # C/D =3D selected video source # same naming scheme # E =3D 0 # F =3D p0q1 # p =3D 1-tape loop, 0-no tape loop? # p=3D0 on STR-DE925 # q =3D 1:muted 0:unmuted # G/H =3D audio routing details? # The following values are from STR-DE925=20 # C1=3Dtuner # FF=3Dphono # 90=3Dcd # =3Ddat # B0=3Dmd # A4=3Dtape # =3Ddigital audio # FF=3Dvideo1 # 91=3Dvideo2 # FF=3Dvideo3 # FF=3Ddbs # =3Dld # FF=3Ddvd 01000000vvvvvvvv:volume # 0 =3D min / FF =3D max 01001000ssssssssCCCCCCCCccccccccCCCCCCCCccccccccCCCCCCCCccccccccCCCCCCCCc= cccccccCCCCCCCCccccccccCCCCCCCCccccccccCCCCCCCC:source_name # gives the name of input S ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF461D.A06C20E0-- From kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:25:28 PST Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:25:28 PST From: Ken Geoffrion kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Does anybody happen to have a device table for Mitsubishi TVs? I just got one of their wide screen, digital TVs. The one sample distributed with CDJ doesn't work. David/Colby: E-Z Learn won't work, either. It seems to record the remote's functions, but when I play them back (using Try), nothing happens. Suggestions? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From sonnie@casema.net Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:46:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:46:15 +0100 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Can you tell me which Model you have ? I might be able to help... Jeroen -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Ken Geoffrion Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 9:25 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com; help@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Does anybody happen to have a device table for Mitsubishi TVs? I just got one of their wide screen, digital TVs. The one sample distributed with CDJ doesn't work. David/Colby: E-Z Learn won't work, either. It seems to record the remote's functions, but when I play them back (using Try), nothing happens. Suggestions? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:04:35 PST Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:04:35 PST From: Ken Geoffrion kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Sorry, I should have included that. It's a WS-55805. Thanks a lot! ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sonnie" To: "Ken Geoffrion" ,, Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:46:15 +0100 Can you tell me which Model you have ? I might be able to help... Jeroen -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Ken Geoffrion Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 9:25 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com; help@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Does anybody happen to have a device table for Mitsubishi TVs? I just got one of their wide screen, digital TVs. The one sample distributed with CDJ doesn't work. David/Colby: E-Z Learn won't work, either. It seems to record the remote's functions, but when I play them back (using Try), nothing happens. Suggestions? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From sonnie@casema.net Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:30:21 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:30:21 +0100 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes I think for the Mitsu you need following: ----------- type=IR group=mitsubishi carrier=32898 # I think zero=250 -750 one=250 -1750 start= stop= repeat=1 pause=250 -22250 sleep=-22250 ------------ Give it a try... Create a CDE file from this, load it in CDJ (options) and file off some IR commands and see if you get any nomatch responses... (don't foget to "link" the right IR Ports under the options as well...) Good Luck... Jeroen -----Original Message----- From: Ken Geoffrion [mailto:kgeoffrion@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 12:05 AM To: sonnie@casema.net Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com; help@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Sorry, I should have included that. It's a WS-55805. Thanks a lot! ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sonnie" To: "Ken Geoffrion" ,, Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:46:15 +0100 Can you tell me which Model you have ? I might be able to help... Jeroen -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Ken Geoffrion Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 9:25 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com; help@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Does anybody happen to have a device table for Mitsubishi TVs? I just got one of their wide screen, digital TVs. The one sample distributed with CDJ doesn't work. David/Colby: E-Z Learn won't work, either. It seems to record the remote's functions, but when I play them back (using Try), nothing happens. Suggestions? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:45:37 PST Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:45:37 PST From: Ken Geoffrion kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Thanks so much. I'll give this a try this evening. Just curious, how did you derive these values? ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sonnie" To: "Ken Geoffrion" CC: , Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:30:21 +0100 I think for the Mitsu you need following: ----------- type=IR group=mitsubishi carrier=32898 # I think zero=250 -750 one=250 -1750 start= stop= repeat=1 pause=250 -22250 sleep=-22250 ------------ Give it a try... Create a CDE file from this, load it in CDJ (options) and file off some IR commands and see if you get any nomatch responses... (don't foget to "link" the right IR Ports under the options as well...) Good Luck... Jeroen -----Original Message----- From: Ken Geoffrion [mailto:kgeoffrion@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 12:05 AM To: sonnie@casema.net Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com; help@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Sorry, I should have included that. It's a WS-55805. Thanks a lot! ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sonnie" To: "Ken Geoffrion" ,, Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:46:15 +0100 Can you tell me which Model you have ? I might be able to help... Jeroen -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Ken Geoffrion Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 9:25 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com; help@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Mitsubishi IR Codes Does anybody happen to have a device table for Mitsubishi TVs? I just got one of their wide screen, digital TVs. The one sample distributed with CDJ doesn't work. David/Colby: E-Z Learn won't work, either. It seems to record the remote's functions, but when I play them back (using Try), nothing happens. Suggestions? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From SSmith6418@aol.com Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:52:17 EST Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:52:17 EST From: SSmith6418@aol.com SSmith6418@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #110 - 5 msgs From AndyStein@aol.com Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:59:51 EST Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:59:51 EST From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Thank You Will! For S-link-less minidisc recorders (such as my Sharp 722 portable), may the user still manually put the recorder into automatic sync-recording mode but use CDJ to play songs from various CDs on the same changer for pseudo-automatic minidisc recording? Andrew In a message dated 12/13/99 6:08:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, parkdog@ix.netcom.com writes: << Subj: [slinkelist] Thank You Will! Date: 12/13/99 6:08:13 PM Pacific Standard Time From: parkdog@ix.netcom.com (Marc Parker) Sender: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com To: will@airmail.net (William Hollingworth), slinkelist@nirvis.com This is an open Thank You to Will Hollingworth for his FANTASTIC MiniDisc Manager program. I have just "discovered" this program and what a find! My family is having a tremendous amount of fun making discs of their favorite Christmas music. This program is a true gem. And his new support for CDJ playlists make this process so easy and foolproof even my Wife is able to use it. The ULTIMATE compliment! Thank you Will for this incredibly great piece of software. Happy Holidays and thanks for the Christmas present! The Parker Family >> From mcody@mindspring.com Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:10:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:10:09 -0500 From: Michael Cody mcody@mindspring.com Subject: [slinkelist] Cover art upload possible? Does anyone know if cover art can be uploaded to a CXP-90ES changer? - This unit has a GUI interface with the TV and promotes that it will show Cover Art for those CD's that offer it but not sure if the Slink-E would know to send it. Any thoughts? From help@nirvis.com Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:24:51 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:24:51 -0800 From: Nirvis Help (Colby) help@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] changing discs library info Hi Peter- Discs don't actually get deleted until you quit the program. There may be a bug somewhere where parts of CDJ still "see" the deleted disc. Try restarting CDJ after deleting the disc (or save and reload the library) and see if the problem is still there. Colby At 12:54 AM 12/13/99 -0800, Peter Myers wrote: >i have one disc that cddb incorrectly id'. i deleted it from the library, >but when i try to have cdj identify it again, it ignores that slot. if i do >a search for discs and force it to that slot, it looks at the disc, and >reports that it is id'ing it. however no entry appears for that slot. it >appears that the slot is empty. when i play the disc from cdj, it displays >the artwork for the incorrectly id'd disc. > >overall it is pretty amazing as it correctly id'd all but one of the roughly >450 of 500 discs that it found a match for. > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From aue@nirvis.com Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:24:08 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:24:08 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXS stuff Hey folks, A few DXS related announcements: First of all the v1.02 patch seems to have done the trick. We haven't had any bug reports since the upgrade went out so it seems we have a stable product. Everyone has been happy with the basic functionality so far but if you have any suggestions let us know. We posted some SlinkeServ device files on the web page for the DXS. These are at http://www.nirvis.com/dxsdevicefiles.htm If you want to control your DXS via RS-232 then ask about how to use the info in these files on our new 'dxs-user' mailing list. Which brings us to topic number 3: the new DXS related mailing lists. This will be the last annoying unsolicited bulk e-mail to DXS customers. Subscribe to the 'dxs-announce' mailing list if you want to receive notification of product improvements and new DXS software/firmware. This list will not accept postings from users and we promise to use it sparingly so you won't get much e-mail traffic from here. http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/dxs-announce The 'dxs-user' list is a general forum for discussing DXS issues. Sign up for it here: http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/dxs-user That's all for now. See you on the lists. David Aue Nirvis Systems From skurzet@uswest.net Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:15:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:15:25 -0800 From: skurzet skurzet@uswest.net Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF470F.366A9760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Troops: Possible answer to the out-of-sight hardware control predicament. Stumbled over an X-10 blurb http://www.x10.com/products/offer60.htm for = an RF remote mouse and 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to control a = PC DVD player and send the pix/sound to a tv via RF. Price is $70. It occurs to me that this would be a super way to control Slink-e when = the PC is in a remote location. The X-10 RF mouse should control the = PC. A 1024X768 or better composite NTSC output video adapter or scan = converter should send a good PC screen to the local TV or video monitor = along with the PC's sounds using the DVD A/V sending facility. =20 Has anyone tried this? =20 Stan ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF470F.366A9760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Troops:
 
Possible answer to the = out-of-sight hardware=20 control predicament.
 
Stumbled over an X-10 blurb http://www.x10.com/produ= cts/offer60.htm =20 for an RF remote mouse and 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to = control a PC=20 DVD player and send the pix/sound to a tv via RF.  Price is=20 $70.
 
It occurs to me that this would be a = super way to=20 control Slink-e  when the PC is in a remote location.  The = X-10 RF=20 mouse should control the PC.  A 1024X768 or better = composite NTSC=20 output video adapter or scan converter should send a good  PC = screen=20 to the local TV or video monitor along with the PC's sounds using = the DVD=20 A/V sending facility. 
 
Has anyone tried this?   =
 
Stan
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF470F.366A9760-- From tgautier@corp.home.net Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:00:28 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:00:28 -0800 From: Taylor Gautier tgautier@corp.home.net Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0893_01BF470D.2007EB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I have had the MouseRemote for over a year. I also just recently = purchased the X10 DVD Anywhere product (meaning I now have 2 = MouseRemotes). I am only marginally happy with both of these products. X10 equipment = is always, in my opinion, a little on the rough side, not too attractive = designs and the functionality usually performs as advertised, but not = spectacularly so. In the case of the MouseRemote, it overrides your existing mouse. You = plug your mouse into it, and then you plug the MR into your computer. = To make this work correctly, you must install X10's mouse driver. This = I believe is the inherent weakness of the system (the whole mouse = doohicky). On my old P133 (where the MR was installed for the year, I just upgraded = to a new system) I installed everything and it worked ok, except for = occasional mouse "glitches". These would exhibit themselves as the = mouse moving around, clicking at random intervals and other strangeness = (very hard to use the computer while the product is in use for typing a = paper for instance) They say it's due to "PS/2" losing sync signals, but I think it's just = their crappy product. I will say that my old system did not support = PS/2 style connectors, and thus I was taking my PS/2 mouse, plugging it = into the MR, and then the MR into a converter and into the Serial Port. = Recently I removed the MR component (while leaving the driver intact) = and all of the problems went away (of course I couldn't use the MR = anymore). This behavior was/is very problematic for controlling programs, because = essentially the program just emulates keyboard and mouse behaviors, with = a few extras thrown in. The major problem comes when you launch an = application (say an MP3 player) and the cursor is pointing somewhere = over the desktop. After some interval of time your are (I was at least) = guaranteed to get a random click, taking the focus away from the MP3 = player, and thus losing all control over it. The solution is that = before any attempt to control the computer, I would always push the = appropriate control button. I might add that a friend of mine purchased the MR immediately after I = did, and experienced similar problems. Though not exactly the same, his = experience matches mine in that the overall satisfaction with the = product has diminished with time as it's flaws become more and more = aggravating. As for the DVD/MP3 Anywhere, I am not terribly impressed by it's = quality. The unit itself seems to cause a low amount of signal noise to = be generated in the output, regardless of the input signal. I am only = transmitting the signal about 100 ft, so I expected pretty good = operation. My assessment is that it is suitable for a party where you = might want music going in two or more different rooms, but don't listen = to classical over it. It is also susceptible to fuzz/noise when walking = around (something I had hoped would not be a problem because it's "2.4 = GHz"). In addition it is VERY unhappy when I turn on my 2.4 GHz phone, = as you can imagine. I tried changing channels on both devices, to no = avail.=20 The video quality was reasonable, about what you'd expect for an = over-the-air broadcast kind of signal with good reception. Not as good = as cable, but acceptable. Certainly not something you'd watch DVD = movies on, in my opinion (s-video is not transmitted, only composite) I have not tried the transmission of IR codes. I assume it works, but = probably as with all X10 equipment, fails every once in a while just = enough to annoy you, but not enough to really say that the product is = broken. To be honest with you, I am on this list precisely because I am fed up = with controlling my computer through the MouseRemote. I have been = considering the SLink device because in theory I should be able to = control my computer any existing remote, and I should also be able to = control my existing X10 appliance and lamp modules as well (I was = disappointed to read the other day that FireCracker support does not = exist yet, I have both the CM11A and FireCracker, I figured the FC would = be the more convenient way to go). My only concern is that there is not a program that is analogous to the = X10 MouseRemote software that emulates mouse and keyboard events along = with a host of others. Though I have complained about the actual = operation the entire package, this piece of software, though clunky, = does tend to work pretty well and provides a fair amount of flexibility = for controlling any 3rd party application. Hope I haven't confused you too much, -t=20 ----- Original Message ----- =20 From: skurzet=20 To: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 3:15 PM Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse Troops: Possible answer to the out-of-sight hardware control predicament. Stumbled over an X-10 blurb http://www.x10.com/products/offer60.htm = for an RF remote mouse and 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to = control a PC DVD player and send the pix/sound to a tv via RF. Price is = $70. It occurs to me that this would be a super way to control Slink-e = when the PC is in a remote location. The X-10 RF mouse should control = the PC. A 1024X768 or better composite NTSC output video adapter or = scan converter should send a good PC screen to the local TV or video = monitor along with the PC's sounds using the DVD A/V sending facility. =20 Has anyone tried this? =20 Stan ------=_NextPart_000_0893_01BF470D.2007EB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, I have had the MouseRemote for over a = year.  I also=20 just recently purchased the X10 DVD Anywhere product (meaning I now have = 2=20 MouseRemotes).
 
I am only marginally happy with both of these = products. =20 X10 equipment is always, in my opinion, a little on the rough side, not = too=20 attractive designs and the functionality usually performs as advertised, = but not=20 spectacularly so.
 
In the case of the MouseRemote, it overrides your = existing=20 mouse.  You plug your mouse into it, and then you plug the MR into = your=20 computer.  To make this work correctly, you must install X10's = mouse=20 driver.  This I believe is the inherent weakness of the system (the = whole=20 mouse doohicky).
 
On my old P133 (where the MR was installed for the = year, I=20 just upgraded to a new system) I installed everything and it worked ok, = except=20 for occasional mouse "glitches".  These would exhibit themselves as = the=20 mouse moving around, clicking at random intervals and other strangeness = (very=20 hard to use the computer while the product is in use for typing a paper = for=20 instance)
 
They say it's due to "PS/2" losing sync signals, but = I think=20 it's just their crappy product.  I will say that my old system did = not=20 support PS/2 style connectors, and thus I was taking my PS/2 mouse, = plugging it=20 into the MR, and then the MR into a converter and into the Serial = Port. =20 Recently I removed the MR component (while leaving the driver intact) = and all of=20 the problems went away (of course I couldn't use the MR = anymore).
 
This behavior was/is very problematic for = controlling=20 programs, because essentially the program just emulates keyboard and = mouse=20 behaviors, with a few extras thrown in.  The major problem comes = when you=20 launch an application (say an MP3 player) and the cursor is pointing = somewhere=20 over the desktop.  After some interval of time your = are (I was at=20 least) guaranteed to get a random click, taking the focus away from = the MP3=20 player, and thus losing all control over it.  The solution is that = before=20 any attempt to control the computer, I would always push the appropriate = control=20 button.
 
I might add that a friend of mine purchased the MR = immediately=20 after I did, and experienced similar problems.  Though not exactly = the=20 same, his experience matches mine in that the overall satisfaction with = the=20 product has diminished with time as it's flaws become more and more=20 aggravating.
 
As for the DVD/MP3 Anywhere, I am not terribly = impressed by=20 it's quality.  The unit itself seems to cause a low amount of = signal noise=20 to be generated in the output, regardless of the input signal.  I = am only=20 transmitting the signal about 100 ft, so I expected pretty good = operation. =20 My assessment is that it is suitable for a party where you might want = music=20 going in two or more different rooms, but don't listen to classical over = it.  It is also susceptible to fuzz/noise when walking around = (something I=20 had hoped would not be a problem because it's "2.4 GHz").  In = addition it=20 is VERY unhappy when I turn on my 2.4 GHz phone, as you can = imagine.  I=20 tried changing channels on both devices, to no avail.
 
The video quality was reasonable, about what you'd = expect for=20 an over-the-air broadcast kind of signal with good reception.  Not = as good=20 as cable, but acceptable.  Certainly not something you'd watch DVD = movies=20 on, in my opinion (s-video is not transmitted, only = composite)

I have not tried the transmission of IR = codes.  I=20 assume it works, but probably as with all X10 equipment, fails every = once in a=20 while just enough to annoy you, but not enough to really say that the = product is=20 broken.
 
To be honest with you, I am on this list precisely = because I=20 am fed up with controlling my computer through the MouseRemote.  I = have=20 been considering the SLink device because in theory I should be able to = control=20 my computer any existing remote, and I should also be able to control my = existing X10 appliance and lamp modules as well (I was disappointed to = read the=20 other day that FireCracker support does not exist yet, I have both the = CM11A and=20 FireCracker, I figured the FC would be the more convenient way = to=20 go).
 
My only concern is that there is not a program that = is=20 analogous to the X10 MouseRemote software that emulates mouse and = keyboard=20 events along with a host of others.  Though I have complained about = the=20 actual operation the entire package, this piece of software, though = clunky, does=20 tend to work pretty well and provides a fair amount of flexibility for=20 controlling any 3rd party application.
 
Hope I haven't confused you too much,
 
-t
----- Original Message -----  =
From:=20 skurzet=20
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, = 1999 3:15=20 PM
Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote = mouse

Troops:
 
Possible answer to the = out-of-sight hardware=20 control predicament.
 
Stumbled over an X-10 blurb http://www.x10.com/produ= cts/offer60.htm =20 for an RF remote mouse and 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to = control a=20 PC DVD player and send the pix/sound to a tv via RF.  Price is=20 $70.
 
It occurs to me that this would be a = super way to=20 control Slink-e  when the PC is in a remote location.  The = X-10 RF=20 mouse should control the PC.  A 1024X768 or better=20 composite NTSC output video adapter or scan converter should = send a=20 good  PC screen to the local TV or video monitor along = with the PC's=20 sounds using the DVD A/V sending facility. 
 
Has anyone tried this?   =
 
Stan
------=_NextPart_000_0893_01BF470D.2007EB00-- From alexanders@rocketmail.com Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:31:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:31:48 -0800 (PST) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Naive Question for Colby I am an extremely cheap fellow, but I want to use multiple changers with optical output, but cannot justify your new mixer (cool as it may be). I was on a long drive yesterday, and I had a thought (probably not a good one, but here goes: Could you create 1-emitter/n-detector(s) for the slinke to plug into the TX RX ports that were not IR, but the frequency for digital/toslink, not to use as a mixer, but just a digital switcher. I know nothing about the details (perhaps the data rate is too high for slinke) If not, I assume this would be a cool (relatively cheap) addition to the nirvis bag of tricks. If this is babble, don't mind me, I'm a software guy, so I always assume data streams are data streams. Thanks for a great product. BTW has anyone built Colby's budget analog mixer? How bad are the audio results? Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com ===== Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From btoole@microsoft.com Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:15:51 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:15:51 -0800 From: Brian Toole btoole@microsoft.com Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4752.579E2C9C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Logitech also makes a great wireless keyboard/mouse combo (RF based) that's good for up to about 10 feet (with the receiver hidden). I picked one up at CompUSA for $99. They had an IR based "store brand" keyboard for $40, but I couldn't get it to work reliably. The Logitech one is much better. I have my "living room" computer hooked up to a Proscan 36" Hi-Res TV directly through it's SVGA port (800x600). Higher resolutions are too difficult (for me) to read from across the room. As an aside, CDJ and related tools seem to work fine under Windows 2000. --Brian ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4752.579E2C9C Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Logitech also makes a great wireless keyboard/mouse combo (RF based) that's good for up to about 10 feet (with the receiver hidden). I picked one up at CompUSA for $99. They had an IR based "store brand" keyboard for $40, but I couldn't get it to work reliably. The Logitech one is much better. I have my "living room" computer hooked up to a Proscan 36" Hi-Res TV directly through it's SVGA port (800x600). Higher resolutions are too difficult (for me) to read from across the room.  As an aside, CDJ and related tools seem to work fine under Windows 2000.
 
--Brian
------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4752.579E2C9C-- From michael@laserle.fi Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:36:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:36:32 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] X10 ??? I sem to have a gap in IT knowledge, what is X10? Can someone please explain ? -michael (A) From alexanders@rocketmail.com Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:51:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:51:10 -0800 (PST) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] re: remote mouse You helped me, maybe I can help you My config is as follows: an old p233 in the closet PC DVD with a loonng IDE cable and an external little power supply also a CDR Old ATI Rage II fm receiver card RCA IIIrd gen DSS Acer websurfer IR keyboard (w/a little joypad mouse) x10 8 in 1 (with my fm transmitter mike mod) Changers tucked in the closet My Mutilated Screen Saver App: No longer a Screen Saver Pop up playlist menus (ir controlled) Pop up video overlay (for dvd) Cover art fades in an out so as not to burn the TV, colors of the text all 'dances' with music: annoying voice control (using fm mike in remote (see old post) I just trap the ir remote 'keystrokes' as slinke events and do something with them in VB. Simple. sweet except that the PC is always on. Note of caution: My TV has begun to behave erratically, and is way out of alignment at the edges, it never did seem to like PC input very much (just svideo, but the ATI card seems to have fragged it) Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From gtang@gtcons.com Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:20:31 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:20:31 -0800 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] X10 ??? Go to http://www.x10.com -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Holopainen Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 10:37 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] X10 ??? I sem to have a gap in IT knowledge, what is X10? Can someone please explain ? -michael (A) _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From tom.hammond-doel@vixel.com Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:21:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:21:45 -0800 From: Tom Hammond-Doel tom.hammond-doel@vixel.com Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse --------------79589C15756C3EE2EF9D105B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep. Not too impressed. I had to set the monitor to 480x600 just to get adequate resolution. Others may have had better luck, or my TV is simply too old. The range they claim is also suspect. If you don't have that far to go (on the order of 30-40') it might be OK. The remote mouse has even less range capabilities. Check out an earlier blurb about the X10 remote mouse. skurzet wrote: > Troops: Possible answer to the out-of-sight hardware control > predicament. Stumbled over an X-10 blurb > http://www.x10.com/products/offer60.htm for an RF remote mouse and > 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to control a PC DVD player and > send the pix/sound to a tv via RF. Price is $70. It occurs to me that > this would be a super way to control Slink-e when the PC is in a > remote location. The X-10 RF mouse should control the PC. A 1024X768 > or better composite NTSC output video adapter or scan converter should > send a good PC screen to the local TV or video monitor along with the > PC's sounds using the DVD A/V sending facility. Has anyone tried > this? Stan --------------79589C15756C3EE2EF9D105B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep.  Not too impressed.  I had to set the monitor to 480x600 just to get adequate resolution.  Others may have had better luck, or my TV is simply too old.  The range they claim is also suspect.  If you don't have that far to go (on the order of 30-40') it might be OK.  The remote mouse has even less range capabilities.  Check out an earlier blurb about the X10 remote mouse.

skurzet wrote:

Troops: Possible answer to the out-of-sight hardware control predicament. Stumbled over an X-10 blurb http://www.x10.com/products/offer60.htm  for an RF remote mouse and 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to control a PC DVD player and send the pix/sound to a tv via RF.  Price is $70. It occurs to me that this would be a super way to control Slink-e  when the PC is in a remote location.  The X-10 RF mouse should control the PC.  A 1024X768 or better composite NTSC output video adapter or scan converter should send a good  PC screen to the local TV or video monitor along with the PC's sounds using the DVD A/V sending facility. Has anyone tried this? Stan
--------------79589C15756C3EE2EF9D105B-- From skurzet@uswest.net Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:44:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:44:47 -0800 From: skurzet skurzet@uswest.net Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BF47CB.B7AF10A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An honest 5 MHz video bandwidth TV should do a good job with a 1024X768 = scan conversion to NTSC particularly when feeding demodulated video into = the line input rather than going through the tuner. The converter and = quality of the 2.4GHz modulator are another matter. Newer video cards = like the ATI convert a max of 800X600 and that may not show sufficient = detail. I like to run my Windows at 1280X1024, large font, so I can = have a lot of info on screen without so much scrolling, but a converter = to handle that would be a budget buster. Anyhow, I only need to go about 15 feet and one wall, so the RF link = ought to be pretty tight. Based on the replies I have seen so far, I,m = leaning hard toward the IR keyboard (with integral mouse) rather than = just the RF mouse. Also, I think that I will use the 300MHz band IR = extender for the keyboard and use the 2.4 GHz to feed the PC video/audio = to the TV. Stan=20 - Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Hammond-Doel=20 To: skurzet=20 Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse Yep. Not too impressed. I had to set the monitor to 480x600 just to = get adequate resolution. Others may have had better luck, or my TV is = simply too old. The range they claim is also suspect. If you don't = have that far to go (on the order of 30-40') it might be OK. The remote = mouse has even less range capabilities. Check out an earlier blurb = about the X10 remote mouse.=20 skurzet wrote:=20 Troops: Possible answer to the out-of-sight hardware control = predicament. Stumbled over an X-10 blurb = http://www.x10.com/products/offer60.htm for an RF remote mouse and 2.4 = GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to control a PC DVD player and send the = pix/sound to a tv via RF. Price is $70. It occurs to me that this would = be a super way to control Slink-e when the PC is in a remote location. = The X-10 RF mouse should control the PC. A 1024X768 or better composite = NTSC output video adapter or scan converter should send a good PC = screen to the local TV or video monitor along with the PC's sounds using = the DVD A/V sending facility. Has anyone tried this? Stan ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BF47CB.B7AF10A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
An honest 5 MHz video bandwidth TV = should do a good=20 job with a 1024X768 scan conversion to NTSC particularly when=20 feeding demodulated video into the line input rather than going = through the=20 tuner.  The converter and quality of the 2.4GHz modulator are = another=20 matter.  Newer video cards like the ATI convert  a max of=20 800X600  and that may not show sufficient detail.  I like to = run my=20 Windows at 1280X1024, large font, so I can have a lot of info on = screen=20 without so much scrolling, but a converter to handle that would be a = budget=20 buster.
 
Anyhow, I only need to go about 15 feet = and one=20 wall, so the RF link ought to be pretty tight.  Based on the = replies I have=20 seen so far, I,m leaning hard toward the IR keyboard (with integral = mouse)=20 rather than just the RF mouse.  Also, I think that I will use the = 300MHz=20 band IR extender for the keyboard and use the 2.4 GHz to feed the PC = video/audio=20 to the TV.
 
Stan 
 
 
- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom Hammond-Doel
To: skurzet
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sent: Thursday, December 16, = 1999 7:21=20 AM
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RF = remote=20 mouse

Yep.  Not too impressed.  I had to set the = monitor to=20 480x600 just to get adequate resolution.  Others may have had = better=20 luck, or my TV is simply too old.  The range they claim is also=20 suspect.  If you don't have that far to go (on the order of = 30-40') it=20 might be OK.  The remote mouse has even less range = capabilities. =20 Check out an earlier blurb about the X10 remote mouse.=20

skurzet wrote:=20

Troops: Possible answer to the out-of-sight = hardware=20 control predicament. Stumbled over an X-10 blurb http://www.x10.com/produ= cts/offer60.htm =20 for an RF remote mouse and 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to = control a=20 PC DVD player and send the pix/sound to a tv via RF.  Price is=20 $70. It occurs = to me that=20 this would be a super way to control Slink-e  when the PC is in = a=20 remote location.  The X-10 RF mouse should control the = PC.  A=20 1024X768 or better composite NTSC output video adapter or scan = converter=20 should send a good  PC screen to the local TV or video monitor = along=20 with the PC's sounds using the DVD A/V sending=20 facility. Has = anyone tried=20 this? Stan
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BF47CB.B7AF10A0-- From skurzet@uswest.net Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:50:50 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:50:50 -0800 From: skurzet skurzet@uswest.net Subject: [slinkelist] X10 ??? > > > I sem to have a gap in IT knowledge, what is X10? > Can someone please explain ? > > -michael (A) A proprietary serial data transfer protocol initially developed for power line carrier current communication between control transmitters and receivers. It has evolved over some 25 years to all manner of gizmos also utilizing wireless RF as well as IR. Stan From Jscott@constellar.com Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:46:50 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:46:50 -0800 From: Jonathan Scott Jscott@constellar.com Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse I'm getting confused - when I went to school, NTSC only included about 500-odd scan lines. How then can it display any better vertical resolution than this? Thanks Jonathan. -----Original Message----- From: skurzet [mailto:skurzet@uswest.net] Sent: 16 December 1999 13:45 To: Tom Hammond-Doel Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse An honest 5 MHz video bandwidth TV should do a good job with a 1024X768 scan conversion to NTSC particularly when feeding demodulated video into the line input rather than going through the tuner. The converter and quality of the 2.4GHz modulator are another matter. Newer video cards like the ATI convert a max of 800X600 and that may not show sufficient detail. I like to run my Windows at 1280X1024, large font, so I can have a lot of info on screen without so much scrolling, but a converter to handle that would be a budget buster. Anyhow, I only need to go about 15 feet and one wall, so the RF link ought to be pretty tight. Based on the replies I have seen so far, I,m leaning hard toward the IR keyboard (with integral mouse) rather than just the RF mouse. Also, I think that I will use the 300MHz band IR extender for the keyboard and use the 2.4 GHz to feed the PC video/audio to the TV. Stan - Original Message ----- From: Tom Hammond-Doel To: skurzet Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse Yep. Not too impressed. I had to set the monitor to 480x600 just to get adequate resolution. Others may have had better luck, or my TV is simply too old. The range they claim is also suspect. If you don't have that far to go (on the order of 30-40') it might be OK. The remote mouse has even less range capabilities. Check out an earlier blurb about the X10 remote mouse. skurzet wrote: Troops: Possible answer to the out-of-sight hardware control predicament. Stumbled over an X-10 blurb http://www.x10.com/products/offer60.htm for an RF remote mouse and 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to control a PC DVD player and send the pix/sound to a tv via RF. Price is $70. It occurs to me that this would be a super way to control Slink-e when the PC is in a remote location. The X-10 RF mouse should control the PC. A 1024X768 or better composite NTSC output video adapter or scan converter should send a good PC screen to the local TV or video monitor along with the PC's sounds using the DVD A/V sending facility. Has anyone tried this? Stan From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:34:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:34:30 -0500 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] CD Text display on receiver This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF47FC.929C22E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have documented, the full protocol of messages passed = between a Sony receiver and changer that causes the CD text or CD disc = memo to be displayed on the receiver. If somebody can supply this to = me, I will use it to make a SlinkX application that automatically puts = names onto the receiver for every disc and song that CDJ plays. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF47FC.929C22E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone have documented, the full protocol of = messages=20 passed between a Sony receiver and changer that causes the CD text or CD = disc=20 memo to be displayed on the receiver.  If somebody can supply this = to me, I=20 will use it to make a SlinkX application that automatically puts names = onto the=20 receiver for every disc and song that CDJ = plays.
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF47FC.929C22E0-- From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:38:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:38:44 -0500 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF47FD.29B9BE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am working on a SlinkX application that will control mouse movement = from SlinkX events. It will allow you to use a CDJ map to convert IR = remote control keystrokes into commands like "mouse:down" so that the = mouse will move in response to remote control keys. I will also have = support for clicks, drags and the main keyboard keys (enter, esc). This = should permit people to have local or remote room control over CDJ = without resorting to an IR keyboard. By the way, the Slinke often doesn't take kindly to being bombarded with = IR from the mouse movement control in the typical IR keyboard. Mouse = movement usually is created by a continuous IR stream that overwhelms = the Slinke. That is why I am writing this application. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF47FD.29B9BE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am working on a SlinkX application that will = control mouse=20 movement from SlinkX events.  It will allow you to use a CDJ map to = convert=20 IR remote control keystrokes into commands like "mouse:down" so that the = mouse=20 will move in response to remote control keys.  I will also have = support for=20 clicks, drags and the main keyboard keys (enter, esc).  This should = permit=20 people to have local or remote room control over CDJ without resorting = to an IR=20 keyboard.
 
By the way, the Slinke often doesn't take kindly to = being=20 bombarded with IR from the mouse movement control in the typical IR=20 keyboard.  Mouse movement usually is created by a continuous IR = stream that=20 overwhelms the Slinke.  That is why I am writing this=20 application.
------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF47FD.29B9BE80-- From judd_pape@ibm.net Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:32:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:32:37 -0500 From: Judd Pape judd_pape@ibm.net Subject: [slinkelist] Saving of Window Positions Hi, I've been using CDJ for about two weeks now and I can't seem to get the Library and tracks windows to stay the size I set them to. They seem to default to their original positions at startup. Any help would be appreciated. Judd From sgspecker@home.com Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:02:55 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:02:55 -0600 From: Scott Specker sgspecker@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF487E.45038140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried a couple of different scan converters for my TV (including DVD Anywhere) and wasn't happy with any of them. I'm just gritting my teeth and biding my time until I can get an HDTV and do it right. One of my big criteria for DTV is that it has a direct VGA (computer) input. So far, only some of the front projection devices offer this. I'm hoping that when I get a DTV into my system I'll be able to easily surf the web and control CDJ. I've got my fingers crossed ... Scott -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Tom Hammond-Doel Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:22 AM To: skurzet Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RF remote mouse Yep. Not too impressed. I had to set the monitor to 480x600 just to get adequate resolution. Others may have had better luck, or my TV is simply too old. The range they claim is also suspect. If you don't have that far to go (on the order of 30-40') it might be OK. The remote mouse has even less range capabilities. Check out an earlier blurb about the X10 remote mouse. skurzet wrote: Troops: Possible answer to the out-of-sight hardware control predicament. Stumbled over an X-10 blurb http://www.x10.com/products/offer60.htm for an RF remote mouse and 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to control a PC DVD player and send the pix/sound to a tv via RF. Price is $70. It occurs to me that this would be a super way to control Slink-e when the PC is in a remote location. The X-10 RF mouse should control the PC. A 1024X768 or better composite NTSC output video adapter or scan converter should send a good PC screen to the local TV or video monitor along with the PC's sounds using the DVD A/V sending facility. Has anyone tried this? Stan ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF487E.45038140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 tried a couple of different scan converters for my TV (including DVD = Anywhere)=20 and wasn't happy with any of them. I'm just gritting my teeth and biding = my time=20 until I can get an HDTV and do it right. One of my big criteria for DTV = is that=20 it has a direct VGA (computer) input. So far, only some of the front = projection=20 devices offer this.
 
I'm=20 hoping that when I get a DTV into my system I'll be able to easily surf = the web=20 and control CDJ. I've got my fingers crossed ...
 
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: = slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Tom=20 Hammond-Doel
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:22 = AM
To:=20 skurzet
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: Re:=20 [slinkelist] RF remote mouse

Yep.  Not too=20 impressed.  I had to set the monitor to 480x600 just to get = adequate=20 resolution.  Others may have had better luck, or my TV is simply = too=20 old.  The range they claim is also suspect.  If you don't = have that=20 far to go (on the order of 30-40') it might be OK.  The remote = mouse has=20 even less range capabilities.  Check out an earlier blurb about = the X10=20 remote mouse.=20

skurzet wrote:=20

Troops: Possible answer to the out-of-sight = hardware=20 control predicament. Stumbled over an X-10 blurb http://www.x10.com/produ= cts/offer60.htm =20 for an RF remote mouse and 2.4 GHz A/V sender/receiver intended to = control a=20 PC DVD player and send the pix/sound to a tv via RF.  Price is=20 $70. It occurs = to me that=20 this would be a super way to control Slink-e  when the PC is in = a=20 remote location.  The X-10 RF mouse should control the = PC.  A=20 1024X768 or better composite NTSC output video adapter or scan = converter=20 should send a good  PC screen to the local TV or video monitor = along=20 with the PC's sounds using the DVD A/V sending=20 facility. Has = anyone tried=20 this? Stan
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF487E.45038140-- From sgspecker@home.com Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:09:17 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:09:17 -0600 From: Scott Specker sgspecker@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Well I didn't see any replies. It'd be nice if CDJ did this for you but not many programs have this feature for sorting lists. I've taken to solving it the brute force way ... manual editing. I've gone through my titles and changed all the album names like "The XXXXXX" to "XXXXXX, The". In some cases I just dropped "the" or "a", but most of the time I use the ",". For whatever it's worth, Scott -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Holopainen Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:45 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Does anyone know a handy way to short albums alphabetically by artist name ignoring the "The" and "a" and "an" article or the first name of artist without altering the name itself ? The obvious solution is in the database use another field to input the artist name in desired format for shorting. But the problem still is how to get CDJ to use that field / (index). Any suggestion ? (If I remember correctly, in "customize header" there was no way to include any additional text fields) Is there any hidden gems of CDJ that I'm unaware of that allow to use alternative index on database ? michael (A) _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From GeorgeT@concur.com Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:26:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:26:39 -0800 From: George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? The reason why you didn't see any replies is because this is an old long time standing issue. Many discussions have already taken place on this topic. One way to do this is to write an Access query that'll do the job for you rather than manual edit. You can even set it up so that you have a Windows shortcut that'll launch Access, open the database, and run a script that'll run the query. But you do need to click on the shortcut to run it manually. Hope this helps. George Tang P.S. Check the Nirvis BBS for other ideas on this topic. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Scott Specker Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:09 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Well I didn't see any replies. It'd be nice if CDJ did this for you but not many programs have this feature for sorting lists. I've taken to solving it the brute force way ... manual editing. I've gone through my titles and changed all the album names like "The XXXXXX" to "XXXXXX, The". In some cases I just dropped "the" or "a", but most of the time I use the ",". For whatever it's worth, Scott -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Holopainen Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:45 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Does anyone know a handy way to short albums alphabetically by artist name ignoring the "The" and "a" and "an" article or the first name of artist without altering the name itself ? The obvious solution is in the database use another field to input the artist name in desired format for shorting. But the problem still is how to get CDJ to use that field / (index). Any suggestion ? (If I remember correctly, in "customize header" there was no way to include any additional text fields) Is there any hidden gems of CDJ that I'm unaware of that allow to use alternative index on database ? michael (A) _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From johnc@realtime-ptl.com Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:54:05 PST Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:54:05 PST From: John Chapman johnc@realtime-ptl.com Subject: [slinkelist] Remote operation of slinke? Since everybody seems to be on the topic of remote operation... My problem is that I can't locate my PC running CDJ physically near the slinke. I need a remote serial link. To this end, I have purchased an Innowave 900MHz wireless serial link to connect the serial port of the PC to the slinke 20 ft. away, but have been unable to get the PC to see the slinke. It sees and talks to a modem just fine. Has anyone else experimented with this or a similar product? Anyone devised another clever way to connect their PC to the slinke? Any help greatly appreciated as I can't use CDJ at the moment and it's KILLING me! Thanks in advance, -John From dap@damon.com Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:45 -0600 (CST) From: Damon Permezel dap@damon.com Subject: [slinkelist] Remote operation of slinke? John Chapman sez: > Since everybody seems to be on the topic of remote operation... > > My problem is that I can't locate my PC running CDJ physically near > the slinke. I need a remote serial link. To this end, I have > purchased an Innowave 900MHz wireless serial link to connect the serial > port of the PC to the slinke 20 ft. away, but have been unable to get > the PC to see the slinke. It sees and talks to a modem just fine. > > Has anyone else experimented with this or a similar product? Anyone > devised another clever way to connect their PC to the slinke? > I purchased an Entrega USB hub with 4 serial ports, plus another hub which just has 4 USB ports. A 6' cable goes from the windoze box to the 4-port USB hub, and then a much longer cable (4 or 5 meters) goes to the 4-port-serial USB hub, which is sufficient to get me to the next room and into the equipment closet. This is really cool, as I needed 4 serial ports to be situated in that closet: one for slink-e, one for DXS, one for HomeVision, and one for the Linn Intersekt. You just plug these suckers into a windoze box and messages come up indicating that new serial ports have gestated, and whalah, Viola, things just work. Only problem with the Entrega is that the serial ports are physically close together, you have to trim the fat off the connectors. From michaelr@encraft.com Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:32:25 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:32:25 -0800 From: Michael Roper michaelr@encraft.com Subject: [slinkelist] Remote operation of slinke? This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BF48C5.757F4CE0 Content-Type: text/plain I successfully used the Infowave through a wall at about 20 feet. It was a struggle. It took a few hours of experimentation to figure out the correct order to run everything to get it to connect. Unfortunately, that was over a year ago (I dumped the setup because the Infowave interfered with a 900MHz remote I was using) and I really can't give you anything useful, except that it can be done. There might be more info in a little review I wrote for the Nirvis BBS--a search should bring it up quickly. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: John Chapman [mailto:johnc@realtime-ptl.com] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 10:54 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Remote operation of slinke? Since everybody seems to be on the topic of remote operation... My problem is that I can't locate my PC running CDJ physically near the slinke. I need a remote serial link. To this end, I have purchased an Innowave 900MHz wireless serial link to connect the serial port of the PC to the slinke 20 ft. away, but have been unable to get the PC to see the slinke. It sees and talks to a modem just fine. Has anyone else experimented with this or a similar product? Anyone devised another clever way to connect their PC to the slinke? Any help greatly appreciated as I can't use CDJ at the moment and it's KILLING me! 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Is it possible for you to run CAT-5 cable? We have used this with the Slink-e located about 50 feet from the computer. Making the cable is extremely easy with the modular to DB-9 adapters. More information is located at: http://www.nirvis.com/faq.htm At 10:54 AM 12/17/99 -0800, you wrote: >Since everybody seems to be on the topic of remote operation... > >My problem is that I can't locate my PC running CDJ physically near >the slinke. I need a remote serial link. To this end, I have >purchased an Innowave 900MHz wireless serial link to connect the serial >port of the PC to the slinke 20 ft. away, but have been unable to get >the PC to see the slinke. It sees and talks to a modem just fine. > >Has anyone else experimented with this or a similar product? Anyone >devised another clever way to connect their PC to the slinke? > >Any help greatly appreciated as I can't use CDJ at the moment and it's >KILLING me! > >Thanks in advance, > >-John > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From michaelr@encraft.com Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:46:38 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:46:38 -0800 From: Michael Roper michaelr@encraft.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BF48C7.7072CF40 Content-Type: text/plain I just posted a similar complaint/solution on the BBS after searching didn't come up with anything really useful. My need is to have CDJ display the artists in the order I specify, so the query doesn't help there. The solution (two "artist" fields in the album table--one to use for sorting and the other to use for display) seems simple to retrofit into CDJ without much work or worry--hopefully we'll see it implemented soon. -----Original Message----- From: George Tang [mailto:GeorgeT@concur.com] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:27 AM To: 'Scott Specker'; 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? The reason why you didn't see any replies is because this is an old long time standing issue. Many discussions have already taken place on this topic. One way to do this is to write an Access query that'll do the job for you rather than manual edit. You can even set it up so that you have a Windows shortcut that'll launch Access, open the database, and run a script that'll run the query. But you do need to click on the shortcut to run it manually. Hope this helps. George Tang P.S. Check the Nirvis BBS for other ideas on this topic. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Scott Specker Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:09 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Well I didn't see any replies. It'd be nice if CDJ did this for you but not many programs have this feature for sorting lists. I've taken to solving it the brute force way ... manual editing. I've gone through my titles and changed all the album names like "The XXXXXX" to "XXXXXX, The". In some cases I just dropped "the" or "a", but most of the time I use the ",". For whatever it's worth, Scott -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Holopainen Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:45 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? 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[slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF48CB.D118B3E2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Colby and David, This might be helpful on this topic. I have a database that I use for my Karaoke. As any of you who goes to Karaoke knows that sorting is a big issue. This is how I implemented the database. There are two fields, one labeled Last Name/Group Name and the other one labeled First Name/Literary Words. This way, you only need to enter the artist information once. Then I have codes that will sort by the first field and then second field (Last Name - First Name or Group Name - Literary Words). The Last/first Name is obvious. The Literary words would be all the "The", "A", and "An". When I need to display the artist, I simply display the second field first and then the first field (First Name - Last Name or Literary Words - Group Name). For those group names that do not start with a literary word, simply leave the second field blank. And the display must be intellegent enough to not put a space in between the two fields if the Literary field is blank. For those one name artists, like Cher or Blondie, I put them in the first field as Last Names. The only bitch about this method is that CDDB does not support this method. So for those who want to take advantage of this, would have to manually enter the artists. This method has worked flawlessly in my Karaoke database. George Tang -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Roper Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 11:47 AM To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? I just posted a similar complaint/solution on the BBS after searching didn't come up with anything really useful. My need is to have CDJ display the artists in the order I specify, so the query doesn't help there. The solution (two "artist" fields in the album table--one to use for sorting and the other to use for display) seems simple to retrofit into CDJ without much work or worry--hopefully we'll see it implemented soon. -----Original Message----- From: George Tang [mailto:GeorgeT@concur.com] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:27 AM To: 'Scott Specker'; 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? The reason why you didn't see any replies is because this is an old long time standing issue. Many discussions have already taken place on this topic. One way to do this is to write an Access query that'll do the job for you rather than manual edit. You can even set it up so that you have a Windows shortcut that'll launch Access, open the database, and run a script that'll run the query. But you do need to click on the shortcut to run it manually. Hope this helps. George Tang P.S. Check the Nirvis BBS for other ideas on this topic. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Scott Specker Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:09 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Well I didn't see any replies. It'd be nice if CDJ did this for you but not many programs have this feature for sorting lists. I've taken to solving it the brute force way ... manual editing. I've gone through my titles and changed all the album names like "The XXXXXX" to "XXXXXX, The". In some cases I just dropped "the" or "a", but most of the time I use the ",". For whatever it's worth, Scott -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Holopainen Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:45 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Does anyone know a handy way to short albums alphabetically by artist name ignoring the "The" and "a" and "an" article or the first name of artist without altering the name itself ? The obvious solution is in the database use another field to input the artist name in desired format for shorting. But the problem still is how to get CDJ to use that field / (index). Any suggestion ? 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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BF48CF.D92C6CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" George, this approach wouldn't solve my problem and seems more complex than necessary. Any solution that doesn't allow me to sort based on a non-displayed field just won't be flexible enough. The "sort field/display field" solution is intuitive to use, simple to implement, and powerful enough to allow complete control over sort order (for example, subsorting albums by an artist chronologically). -----Original Message----- From: George Tang [mailto:GeorgeT@concur.com] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 12:18 PM To: Michael Roper; 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Colby and David, This might be helpful on this topic. I have a database that I use for my Karaoke. As any of you who goes to Karaoke knows that sorting is a big issue. This is how I implemented the database. There are two fields, one labeled Last Name/Group Name and the other one labeled First Name/Literary Words. This way, you only need to enter the artist information once. Then I have codes that will sort by the first field and then second field (Last Name - First Name or Group Name - Literary Words). The Last/first Name is obvious. The Literary words would be all the "The", "A", and "An". When I need to display the artist, I simply display the second field first and then the first field (First Name - Last Name or Literary Words - Group Name). For those group names that do not start with a literary word, simply leave the second field blank. And the display must be intellegent enough to not put a space in between the two fields if the Literary field is blank. For those one name artists, like Cher or Blondie, I put them in the first field as Last Names. The only bitch about this method is that CDDB does not support this method. So for those who want to take advantage of this, would have to manually enter the artists. This method has worked flawlessly in my Karaoke database. George Tang -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Roper Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 11:47 AM To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? I just posted a similar complaint/solution on the BBS after searching didn't come up with anything really useful. My need is to have CDJ display the artists in the order I specify, so the query doesn't help there. The solution (two "artist" fields in the album table--one to use for sorting and the other to use for display) seems simple to retrofit into CDJ without much work or worry--hopefully we'll see it implemented soon. -----Original Message----- From: George Tang [mailto:GeorgeT@concur.com] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:27 AM To: 'Scott Specker'; 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? The reason why you didn't see any replies is because this is an old long time standing issue. Many discussions have already taken place on this topic. One way to do this is to write an Access query that'll do the job for you rather than manual edit. You can even set it up so that you have a Windows shortcut that'll launch Access, open the database, and run a script that'll run the query. But you do need to click on the shortcut to run it manually. Hope this helps. George Tang P.S. Check the Nirvis BBS for other ideas on this topic. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Scott Specker Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:09 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Well I didn't see any replies. It'd be nice if CDJ did this for you but not many programs have this feature for sorting lists. I've taken to solving it the brute force way ... manual editing. I've gone through my titles and changed all the album names like "The XXXXXX" to "XXXXXX, The". In some cases I just dropped "the" or "a", but most of the time I use the ",". For whatever it's worth, Scott -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Holopainen Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:45 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ? Does anyone know a handy way to short albums alphabetically by artist name ignoring the "The" and "a" and "an" article or the first name of artist without altering the name itself ? The obvious solution is in the database use another field to input the artist name in desired format for shorting. But the problem still is how to get CDJ to use that field / (index). Any suggestion ? 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Hunt glh@srv.net Subject: [slinkelist] Remote operation of slinke? For 20 feet, it isn't worth bothering with a wireless link unless you just cannot get a cable between the 2 locations. I'm running a 50 foot cable between my PC and slinke (two 25' serial cables connected together) without a problem. I had to cut a hole in the kitchen floor to get through to the basement, but it was much easier than the alternatives. Gary Hunt ------------------------------------------------------- At 10:54 AM 12/17/1999 PST, you wrote: >My problem is that I can't locate my PC running CDJ physically near >the slinke. I need a remote serial link. To this end, I have >purchased an Innowave 900MHz wireless serial link to connect the serial >port of the PC to the slinke 20 ft. away, but have been unable to get >the PC to see the slinke. It sees and talks to a modem just fine. > >Has anyone else experimented with this or a similar product? Anyone >devised another clever way to connect their PC to the slinke? > >Any help greatly appreciated as I can't use CDJ at the moment and it's >KILLING me! > >Thanks in advance, > >-John From jschaffe@mail1.nai.net Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:57:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:57:56 -0500 From: Jeff Schaffer jschaffe@mail1.nai.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem No, I never got a response from Nirvis, although I sent a repeat to slinkelist about 4-6 weeks ago. There was one early reply from someone who made a copy of the cd but added a few seconds to one of the songs, making the copy cd a different length so CDJ would see it as a different disk. He had to manually type in the titles, though. Nirvis, any help here? >Hi Jeff. Did you ever get a decent solution to this problem? I've run >into the same thing with two other CDs. > >Michael Roper >michaelr@encraft.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] >Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:20 PM >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com >Subject: Duplicate disk ID problem > > >Hello, > >I've got two CDs (Liz Story/Solid Colors and The Oscar Peterson Trio >+ 1: Clark Terry) that each have 10 tracks and are the same total >length (40:52). CDJ gets them confused, but if I delete both from >the library, it can successfully look up either disk from CDDB. I >saved one entry (in text form), deleted it, looked up the other >disk, and pasted (text) the first entry back into the library file. >Now I get a duplicate disk ID error when I start CDJ. (Basically >seems to work, but I can only play one of the conflicting disks). > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks, >Jeff From michaelr@encraft.com Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:40:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:40:06 -0800 From: Michael Roper michaelr@encraft.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BF498F.B201DD60 Content-Type: text/plain Jeff, David suggested just burning a straight copy of one of the discs. This worked great for my situation. I didn't have to futz with altering track times or anything--just did my usual automagic digital source record and the timings are just different enough to resolve the conflict with CDDB. I also didn't need to do anything manual--the disc simply came up as an "inexact match" but as the correct album. I picked one of the offerings and from there it worked just like every other CD in my collection. I'm guessing that "adding a few seconds" to one of the tracks is not necessary and is in fact why your friend didn't get a hit on CDDB. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:58 PM To: Michael Roper Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem No, I never got a response from Nirvis, although I sent a repeat to slinkelist about 4-6 weeks ago. There was one early reply from someone who made a copy of the cd but added a few seconds to one of the songs, making the copy cd a different length so CDJ would see it as a different disk. He had to manually type in the titles, though. Nirvis, any help here? >Hi Jeff. Did you ever get a decent solution to this problem? I've run >into the same thing with two other CDs. > >Michael Roper >michaelr@encraft.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] >Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:20 PM >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com >Subject: Duplicate disk ID problem > > >Hello, > >I've got two CDs (Liz Story/Solid Colors and The Oscar Peterson Trio >+ 1: Clark Terry) that each have 10 tracks and are the same total >length (40:52). CDJ gets them confused, but if I delete both from >the library, it can successfully look up either disk from CDDB. I >saved one entry (in text form), deleted it, looked up the other >disk, and pasted (text) the first entry back into the library file. >Now I get a duplicate disk ID error when I start CDJ. 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Besides the issues I have (see below), other people seem to be having a problem with albums/artists starting with "A" or "The" as well as the "I want to see 'Dean Martin' but sort by 'Martin, Dean'" issue. A user defined sort field would solve all of these issues. It would require some manual entry, but I end up doing a lot of manual cleanup on the CDDB entries anyway. A more general solution would be, for example, "User1" through "User4" fields that could be displayed as sortable columns in the "Library" and "Search" window lists. (Messages rearranged in chronological order) >>In CDJ, could you please add "sort" and/or "genere" fields to the >>details for a CD? I have just under 400 CDs (with two more changers on >>order) under CDJ management and generally just use the "Library" window. >> >>I'd like the CD list to break into logical groups, so Dead Can Dance and >>Dean Martin don't end up next to each other in alphabetical order. >>Thus, I could enter a sort field of "Gothic Dead 1986" and a sort field >>of "Lounge Martin 1965" to group them with their peers. >> >>Up to now, I've worked around the problem by putting the CDs in the >>changer in order and sorting on Player/Disc, but that unoptimizes the >>ability to pre-queue the alternate changer. That was good earlier: I >>had player 1 hooked to one input and player 2 hooked to another, and >>only built playlists on one or the other player. Now that I have a DXS, >>I'd like to use queueing. >From: Nirvis Help (David) [mailto:help@nirvis.com] >Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 3:38 pm >To: Saleh W. Igal >Subject: Re: Feature > >Hi Saleh, > >The keyword and search features will allow you to find your music by genre. > >Any disc and/or track can have any number of key words associated with >it. You can then go to the search view and find things by those >keywords. Sorting by keywords is a difficult problem since there can be >any number of them associated with each disc. > >David Aue >Nirvis Systems From hughhood@earthlink.net Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:05:23 -0600 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:05:23 -0600 From: Hugh Hood hughhood@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting The Titletrack Jukebox Player for the Mac/slinke combo handles sorting by having both an Artist field and also an 'offset' field that allows the user to specify which word in the Artist field (i.e. the 'offset') the user wishes to sort by. For example: Artist: Merle Haggard Offset: 2 (Haggard) Artist: The Statler Brothers Offset: 2 (Statler) Artist: Tom T. Hall Offset: 3 (Hall) You get the idea by now, I'm sure. BTW, the program interface doen't require specifying the offset _number_, but rather the offset _word_, which is selectable from a menu. Hugh Hood From paulj@qualcomm.com Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:23:49 -0800 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:23:49 -0800 From: Paul K Johnson paulj@qualcomm.com Subject: [slinkelist] database programming for hire? I have a database (Foxpro dbf's) of my songs which lists how much I like each song. I would like this transferred over to the CDJ's database. I'm guessing it's a fairly small amount of work with Access, but I don't feel like messing around with this. Anybody interested in bidding on this? I can provide more details if needed. paul From michaelr@encraft.com Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:20:10 -0800 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:20:10 -0800 From: Michael Roper michaelr@encraft.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BF4A45.4DBFAA20 Content-Type: text/plain Unfortunately, this doesn't solve the general subsort problem. -----Original Message----- From: Hugh Hood [mailto:hughhood@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 7:05 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting The Titletrack Jukebox Player for the Mac/slinke combo handles sorting by having both an Artist field and also an 'offset' field that allows the user to specify which word in the Artist field (i.e. the 'offset') the user wishes to sort by. For example: Artist: Merle Haggard Offset: 2 (Haggard) Artist: The Statler Brothers Offset: 2 (Statler) Artist: Tom T. Hall Offset: 3 (Hall) You get the idea by now, I'm sure. BTW, the program interface doen't require specifying the offset _number_, but rather the offset _word_, which is selectable from a menu. 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What is the specific wiring requirements? One DB-9/RJ-45 male adapter, one DB-9/RJ45 female adapter and 25 feet of networking cable? Or something else? Also where can I order these things? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. db From Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:55:01 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:55:01 -0800 From: Hoen, Dave Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem ------ =_NextPart_000_01BF4B02.94800960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know the following discussion is somewhat of a rehash of past posts = about duplicate IDs, but I think it was always stated that it was just = the nature of the beast and there wasn't anything that could be done = about it. And I also remember some posts saying this has been improved = and should rarely occur, if ever. But I have the same scenario as Jeff = Schaffer, where CDDB has no problem ID'ing two disks individually with = exact matches, but CDJ keeps getting the two of them confused. I don't = understand why this is. If it were the other way around (CDDB having = the problem instead of CDJ), I could believe it, but since CDJ obtains = all the information that gets sent to CDDB, why is CDJ having a problem, = and not CDDB? My two disks exhibiting this problem are "Siouxsie And The Banshees - = Hyaena" and "The Pointer Sisters - Serious Slammin'". For clarity in = the following discussion, I will call them Disk A and Disk B = respectively. They both have 10 songs and are both identical time in = total length. Individual songs are different in length between the two = disks, however. If I delete both disks from CDJ and then just put Disk = A back in, it IDs it correctly using CDDB and works fine. If I then put = in Disk B in another slot and attempt to ID it, CDJ assumes I have moved = Disk A and reassigns its track data to this new slot where I have = inserted Disk B. It does this without doing a CDDB inquiry. The old = slot (which still has Disk A in it), is marked empty. If I now attempt = to ID Disk A slot again, CDJ moves the track data back to the Disk A = slot and the Disk B slot is marked empty (even though it still has Disk = B in it). Thankfully, CDJ doesn't go back and see what is now in this = newly empty slot, or it would get stuck in an endless loop. Disk A = track data just keeps getting swapped back and forth everytime I try to = ID the empty slot. After the initial exact match of Disk A on CDDB, it = never goes back to CDDB for the Disk B data. Now if I take both disks out and delete them from CDJ, then start the = whole process over again beginning this time with Disk B, then I get an = exact match of Disk B track data from CDDB. You guessed it. Now the = Disk B track data gets swapped back and forth between the two slots, = without ever going back to CDDB. I know the solution is real simple: Decide which disk I like best, and = deep six the other. Not a big deal, but it is driving me crazy. How = come CDDB can identify them, but CDJ can't? How does CDJ assign CDJID? = I looked at the slink-e data log during an ID process, and the only = thing in common is the number of tracks and total length. So I looked = for another set of two disks with the same number of tracks and same = total length. In my collection of CD's I had one other set of two that = matched these conditions. I tried this same experiment and neither CDDB = or CDJ had a problem with this new set. Incidentally, I don't see any = kind of disk ID number in the slink-e log, when attempting to ID a disk = from CDDB. Is there really a disk ID number that is sent to CDDB and if = so, why isn't it shown in the slink-e log? Colby, I'm sure you have a good explanation, or solution. If not, I = could throw both of the offending CD's your way, for experimentation. = In my book, this is a low priority problem, but it does drive me crazy. Slink-e, CDJ, DXS, and the new MiniDisk Manager are all great products! = I use them all extensively with hardly a hitch. Not many = hardware/software/mechanical interaction products that work together so = seemlessly. Just ask the Mars exploration team. (Was that disgruntled = DXS customer a member of that team and had just finished a really = freakin bad week?) Thanks for a great product, Dave Hoen dave.hoen@emulex.com ---------- From: Michael Roper Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 11:40 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem Jeff, David suggested just burning a straight copy of one of the discs. = This worked great for my situation. I didn't have to futz with altering = track times or anything--just did my usual automagic digital source = record and the timings are just different enough to resolve the conflict = with CDDB. I also didn't need to do anything manual--the disc simply = came up as an "inexact match" but as the correct album. I picked one of = the offerings and from there it worked just like every other CD in my = collection. I'm guessing that "adding a few seconds" to one of the tracks is not = necessary and is in fact why your friend didn't get a hit on CDDB. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:58 PM To: Michael Roper Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem No, I never got a response from Nirvis, although I sent a repeat to=20 slinkelist about 4-6 weeks ago. There was one early reply from=20 someone who made a copy of the cd but added a few seconds to one of=20 the songs, making the copy cd a different length so CDJ would see it=20 as a different disk. He had to manually type in the titles, though. Nirvis, any help here? >Hi Jeff. Did you ever get a decent solution to this problem? I've run >into the same thing with two other CDs. > >Michael Roper >michaelr@encraft.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] >Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:20 PM >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com >Subject: Duplicate disk ID problem > > >Hello, > >I've got two CDs (Liz Story/Solid Colors and The Oscar Peterson Trio=20 >+ 1: Clark Terry) that each have 10 tracks and are the same total=20 >length (40:52). CDJ gets them confused, but if I delete both from=20 >the library, it can successfully look up either disk from CDDB. I=20 >saved one entry (in text form), deleted it, looked up the other=20 >disk, and pasted (text) the first entry back into the library file.=20 >Now I get a duplicate disk ID error when I start CDJ. 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Parker From vann.m.knight@boeing.com Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:02:25 -0600 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:02:25 -0600 From: Knight, Vann M vann.m.knight@boeing.com Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech - slinke connecting ? and X10 beginner help Folks, I've had my slink-e for about 6 months now and love it. I have my audio gear tucked away in my basement. I have a Xantech multiple channel pre-amp and amps, I have Xantech IR receivers in each room (and emitters in the basement to route IR signals to the Xantech and other audio devices). Up to now I have been using the slink-e just to control my Sony 300 CD juke box with the very nice CDJ software. I use a Pronto remote to control the rest of my system including the Sony CD jukebox (when I'm not using the CDJ to play a play-list). I've noticed that since I don't have a feed from the IR bus to slink-e that when I am controlling the Sony jukebox with CDJ, my IR commands to the Sony with a remote don't always "take". My question(s): 1) I think I should be able to feed the IR signal (collected and routed by my Xantech system) to the slink-e (and thus have some control over the CDJ software). How do I bridge the IR signal from my Xantech IR bus to my slink-e? I considered simply taping IR emitter to IR receiver, but there must be a better way. 2) I recently purchased some X-10 "stuff" including the CM11a... How do I set up control of X-10 devices thru the slink-e? I've browsed the help (so please no RTFM flames) and it looks like there is support in the slink-e device and slink-e server to route signals to the X-10 devices but how does one originate a signal to send to an X-10 device? I've added the CM11a device file, and slink-e server can "see" the CM11a. But is there a macro capability in either the CDJ or slink-e server software? What I've read up to now in the help indicates to me that there is an ActiveX open interface implemented, but I've yet found an application which uses this interface... am I way out in left field here ? thanks for any help, Vann - Vann Knight - vann.m.knight@boeing.com - (314) 234-9881 voice - (314) 233-5094 fax - - "Nous sommes du soleil" From jschaffe@mail1.nai.net Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:51:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:51:31 -0500 From: Jeff Schaffer jschaffe@mail1.nai.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem I tried the straight copy, and it worked! Still a hassle, and now I have my Solid Colors original laying around, but I can get to both CDs via slinke! >Jeff, David suggested just burning a straight copy of one of the discs. >This worked great for my situation. I didn't have to futz with altering >track times or anything--just did my usual automagic digital source >record and the timings are just different enough to resolve the conflict >with CDDB. I also didn't need to do anything manual--the disc simply >came up as an "inexact match" but as the correct album. I picked one of >the offerings and from there it worked just like every other CD in my >collection. > >I'm guessing that "adding a few seconds" to one of the tracks is not >necessary and is in fact why your friend didn't get a hit on CDDB. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:58 PM >To: Michael Roper >Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com >Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem > > >No, I never got a response from Nirvis, although I sent a repeat to >slinkelist about 4-6 weeks ago. There was one early reply from >someone who made a copy of the cd but added a few seconds to one of >the songs, making the copy cd a different length so CDJ would see it >as a different disk. He had to manually type in the titles, though. > >Nirvis, any help here? > > >Hi Jeff. Did you ever get a decent solution to this problem? I've run > >into the same thing with two other CDs. > > > >Michael Roper > >michaelr@encraft.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] > >Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:20 PM > >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > >Subject: Duplicate disk ID problem > > > > > >Hello, > > > >I've got two CDs (Liz Story/Solid Colors and The Oscar Peterson Trio > >+ 1: Clark Terry) that each have 10 tracks and are the same total > >length (40:52). CDJ gets them confused, but if I delete both from > >the library, it can successfully look up either disk from CDDB. I > >saved one entry (in text form), deleted it, looked up the other > >disk, and pasted (text) the first entry back into the library file. > >Now I get a duplicate disk ID error when I start CDJ. (Basically > >seems to work, but I can only play one of the conflicting disks). > > > >Any suggestions? > > > >Thanks, > >Jeff > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From slinkelist@deleons.com Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:04:20 -0800 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:04:20 -0800 From: Arnold de Leon slinkelist@deleons.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem The fundamental problem is that the Sony changers don't provide enough information for CDJ to calculate the full CDDB id. Instead it has to use a partial match to get an entry. This is the same reason that CDJ doesn't have the option for submitting entries into CDDB. arnold On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 10:51:31AM -0500, Jeff Schaffer wrote: > I tried the straight copy, and it worked! Still a hassle, and now I > have my Solid Colors original laying around, but I can get to both > CDs via slinke! > > >Jeff, David suggested just burning a straight copy of one of the discs. > >This worked great for my situation. I didn't have to futz with altering > >track times or anything--just did my usual automagic digital source > >record and the timings are just different enough to resolve the conflict > >with CDDB. I also didn't need to do anything manual--the disc simply > >came up as an "inexact match" but as the correct album. I picked one of > >the offerings and from there it worked just like every other CD in my > >collection. > > > >I'm guessing that "adding a few seconds" to one of the tracks is not > >necessary and is in fact why your friend didn't get a hit on CDDB. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] > >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:58 PM > >To: Michael Roper > >Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com > >Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem > > > > > >No, I never got a response from Nirvis, although I sent a repeat to > >slinkelist about 4-6 weeks ago. There was one early reply from > >someone who made a copy of the cd but added a few seconds to one of > >the songs, making the copy cd a different length so CDJ would see it > >as a different disk. He had to manually type in the titles, though. > > > >Nirvis, any help here? > > > > >Hi Jeff. Did you ever get a decent solution to this problem? I've run > > >into the same thing with two other CDs. > > > > > >Michael Roper > > >michaelr@encraft.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] > > >Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:20 PM > > >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > >Subject: Duplicate disk ID problem > > > > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > >I've got two CDs (Liz Story/Solid Colors and The Oscar Peterson Trio > > >+ 1: Clark Terry) that each have 10 tracks and are the same total > > >length (40:52). CDJ gets them confused, but if I delete both from > > >the library, it can successfully look up either disk from CDDB. I > > >saved one entry (in text form), deleted it, looked up the other > > >disk, and pasted (text) the first entry back into the library file. > > >Now I get a duplicate disk ID error when I start CDJ. (Basically > > >seems to work, but I can only play one of the conflicting disks). > > > > > >Any suggestions? > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Jeff > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- Arnold de Leon WebTV Networks, Inc. arnold@corp.webtv.net 305 Lytton Ave. +1 650 614 5538 Palo Alto, CA 94301 From Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:48:18 -0800 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:48:18 -0800 From: Hoen, Dave Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem It may be true that the Sony changer doesn't send all the information = available on a CD. But the question remains: How come CDDB can get = exact and correct matches using only the information provided by the = Sony changer (through CDJ), on two different CDs, but CDJ can't tell the = difference between these two CDs, using this exact same information? Dave Hoen ---------- From: Arnold de Leon Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 4:04 PM To: Jeff Schaffer Cc: Michael Roper; slinkelist@nirvis.com; Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem The fundamental problem is that the Sony changers don't provide enough information for CDJ to calculate the full CDDB id. Instead it has to use a partial match to get an entry. This is the same reason that CDJ doesn't have the option for submitting entries into CDDB. arnold On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 10:51:31AM -0500, Jeff Schaffer wrote: > I tried the straight copy, and it worked! Still a hassle, and now I=20 > have my Solid Colors original laying around, but I can get to both=20 > CDs via slinke! >=20 > >Jeff, David suggested just burning a straight copy of one of the = discs. > >This worked great for my situation. I didn't have to futz with = altering > >track times or anything--just did my usual automagic digital source > >record and the timings are just different enough to resolve the = conflict > >with CDDB. I also didn't need to do anything manual--the disc simply > >came up as an "inexact match" but as the correct album. I picked one = of > >the offerings and from there it worked just like every other CD in my > >collection. > > > >I'm guessing that "adding a few seconds" to one of the tracks is not > >necessary and is in fact why your friend didn't get a hit on CDDB. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] > >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:58 PM > >To: Michael Roper > >Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com > >Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem > > > > > >No, I never got a response from Nirvis, although I sent a repeat to > >slinkelist about 4-6 weeks ago. There was one early reply from > >someone who made a copy of the cd but added a few seconds to one of > >the songs, making the copy cd a different length so CDJ would see it > >as a different disk. He had to manually type in the titles, though. > > > >Nirvis, any help here? > > > > >Hi Jeff. Did you ever get a decent solution to this problem? = I've run > > >into the same thing with two other CDs. > > > > > >Michael Roper > > >michaelr@encraft.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] > > >Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:20 PM > > >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > >Subject: Duplicate disk ID problem > > > > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > >I've got two CDs (Liz Story/Solid Colors and The Oscar Peterson = Trio > > >+ 1: Clark Terry) that each have 10 tracks and are the same total > > >length (40:52). CDJ gets them confused, but if I delete both from > > >the library, it can successfully look up either disk from CDDB. I > > >saved one entry (in text form), deleted it, looked up the other > > >disk, and pasted (text) the first entry back into the library = file. > > >Now I get a duplicate disk ID error when I start CDJ. (Basically > > >seems to work, but I can only play one of the conflicting disks). > > > > > >Any suggestions? > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Jeff > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist --=20 Arnold de Leon WebTV Networks, Inc. arnold@corp.webtv.net 305 Lytton Ave. +1 650 614 5538 Palo Alto, CA 94301 From sgarrett@technomancer.com Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:28:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:28:46 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Garrett sgarrett@technomancer.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony MD 920 I just bought my Sony 920 Minidisc recorder off of E-bay. I got it home last night, and tried hooking it into my S-link setup, and am having bigtime problems. When I hook it into the Slink-e, the activity light goes almost solid amber, but it doesn't register in the device list. I've tried both S-link ports on the MD deck and different ports on the Slink-e. I tried hooking it up directly to the CD changer I have (300 disc changer), which is working perfectly with the Slink-E. The MD deck says it will control the changer via slink, but I also get a "No connect" from them. I'm using a mono 1/8" male to male that I bought at Radio Shack. Anyone out there with a 920 that wants to offer some advice? Oh, I did go into CDJ and turn on the traffic window. Despite the amber traffic light, there is nothing registering in CDJ in the traffic window. -- Scott Garrett mailto:sgarrett@technomancer.com http://www.technomancer.com *** Unix *is* user friendly. It's just picky about who its friends are. From cboles@nirvis.com Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:12:18 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:12:18 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem OK. Here's why: 1. CDDB ID uses a hash number based on the playing times of all the tracks on the CD. 2. Using the info the player provides, the two CDs you own have the same CDDB ID. 3. When CDJ does CDDB lookups, it also provides all of the individual track timing info to CDDB, which allows it to do better inexact matching. This is why CDDB can distinguish the two discs. 4. When CDJ is looking to see if two discs are the same, it only uses the CDDB ID number, which causes it to mistake the the two discs for each other. This is a fixable problem, we just haven't addressed it yet. Colby At 05:48 PM 12/21/99 -0800, you wrote: >It may be true that the Sony changer doesn't send all the information >available on a CD. But the question remains: How come CDDB can get exact >and correct matches using only the information provided by the Sony >changer (through CDJ), on two different CDs, but CDJ can't tell the >difference between these two CDs, using this exact same information? > >Dave Hoen > >---------- >From: Arnold de Leon >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 4:04 PM >To: Jeff Schaffer >Cc: Michael Roper; slinkelist@nirvis.com; Dave.Hoen@emulex.com >Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem > >The fundamental problem is that the Sony changers don't provide enough >information for CDJ to calculate the full CDDB id. Instead it has to >use a partial match to get an entry. > >This is the same reason that CDJ doesn't have the option for submitting >entries into CDDB. > > arnold > >On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 10:51:31AM -0500, Jeff Schaffer wrote: > > I tried the straight copy, and it worked! Still a hassle, and now I > > have my Solid Colors original laying around, but I can get to both > > CDs via slinke! > > > > >Jeff, David suggested just burning a straight copy of one of the discs. > > >This worked great for my situation. I didn't have to futz with altering > > >track times or anything--just did my usual automagic digital source > > >record and the timings are just different enough to resolve the conflict > > >with CDDB. I also didn't need to do anything manual--the disc simply > > >came up as an "inexact match" but as the correct album. I picked one of > > >the offerings and from there it worked just like every other CD in my > > >collection. > > > > > >I'm guessing that "adding a few seconds" to one of the tracks is not > > >necessary and is in fact why your friend didn't get a hit on CDDB. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] > > >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:58 PM > > >To: Michael Roper > > >Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > >Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Duplicate disk ID problem > > > > > > > > >No, I never got a response from Nirvis, although I sent a repeat to > > >slinkelist about 4-6 weeks ago. There was one early reply from > > >someone who made a copy of the cd but added a few seconds to one of > > >the songs, making the copy cd a different length so CDJ would see it > > >as a different disk. He had to manually type in the titles, though. > > > > > >Nirvis, any help here? > > > > > > >Hi Jeff. Did you ever get a decent solution to this problem? I've run > > > >into the same thing with two other CDs. > > > > > > > >Michael Roper > > > >michaelr@encraft.com > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Jeff Schaffer [mailto:jschaffe@mail1.nai.net] > > > >Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:20 PM > > > >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > >Subject: Duplicate disk ID problem > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > > > >I've got two CDs (Liz Story/Solid Colors and The Oscar Peterson Trio > > > >+ 1: Clark Terry) that each have 10 tracks and are the same total > > > >length (40:52). CDJ gets them confused, but if I delete both from > > > >the library, it can successfully look up either disk from CDDB. I > > > >saved one entry (in text form), deleted it, looked up the other > > > >disk, and pasted (text) the first entry back into the library file. > > > >Now I get a duplicate disk ID error when I start CDJ. (Basically > > > >seems to work, but I can only play one of the conflicting disks). > > > > > > > >Any suggestions? > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > >-- >Arnold de Leon WebTV Networks, Inc. >arnold@corp.webtv.net 305 Lytton Ave. >+1 650 614 5538 Palo Alto, CA 94301 > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist Nirvis Systems http://www.nirvis.com http://kowloon.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cboles From cboles@nirvis.com Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:54:31 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:54:31 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech - slinke connecting ? and X10 beginner help Hi Vann- 1) I have designed just such a circuit. You can find the schematics for it at http://www.nirvis.com/xantech.htm depending on the number of people interested, I may build such a device to adapt to Xantech. Electronics are required because the Xantech system contains the IR carrier whereas the slink-e IR inputs do not. 2) The X10 device commands are described in the help under The SlinkX ActiveX control -> CM11a X10 Interface For example, if you loaded the cm11a.cde device in CDJ and called it "x10", you could issue the following command to turn on a light at address A1: x10:on[a1] likewise, you could create a macro in your map file where sending command to A2 from an X10 keypad starts / stops your playlist: x10:on[a2] {cdj:playlist_play} x10:off[a2] {cdj:playlist_stop} Colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Knight, Vann M Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:02 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech - slinke connecting ? and X10 beginner help Folks, I've had my slink-e for about 6 months now and love it. I have my audio gear tucked away in my basement. I have a Xantech multiple channel pre-amp and amps, I have Xantech IR receivers in each room (and emitters in the basement to route IR signals to the Xantech and other audio devices). Up to now I have been using the slink-e just to control my Sony 300 CD juke box with the very nice CDJ software. I use a Pronto remote to control the rest of my system including the Sony CD jukebox (when I'm not using the CDJ to play a play-list). I've noticed that since I don't have a feed from the IR bus to slink-e that when I am controlling the Sony jukebox with CDJ, my IR commands to the Sony with a remote don't always "take". My question(s): 1) I think I should be able to feed the IR signal (collected and routed by my Xantech system) to the slink-e (and thus have some control over the CDJ software). How do I bridge the IR signal from my Xantech IR bus to my slink-e? I considered simply taping IR emitter to IR receiver, but there must be a better way. 2) I recently purchased some X-10 "stuff" including the CM11a... How do I set up control of X-10 devices thru the slink-e? I've browsed the help (so please no RTFM flames) and it looks like there is support in the slink-e device and slink-e server to route signals to the X-10 devices but how does one originate a signal to send to an X-10 device? I've added the CM11a device file, and slink-e server can "see" the CM11a. But is there a macro capability in either the CDJ or slink-e server software? What I've read up to now in the help indicates to me that there is an ActiveX open interface implemented, but I've yet found an application which uses this interface... am I way out in left field here ? thanks for any help, Vann - Vann Knight - vann.m.knight@boeing.com - (314) 234-9881 voice - (314) 233-5094 fax - - "Nous sommes du soleil" _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From saleh@BRBA.com Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:31:38 -0600 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:31:38 -0600 From: Saleh Igal saleh@BRBA.com Subject: [slinkelist] Using DB-9 adapters and straight RJ-45 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF4D07.0030C32E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Altex has the DB-9 to RJ45 adapters for $1.99 each. Part number ma9f-8ts and ma9m-8ts. You have to insert the individual pins into the D-sub shell, so you can do whatever pinout you want. I'm assuming (correct this post if I'm wrong) that the slink-e doesn't use the ring indicator, so ignore pin 9 on both ends. I've attached the cheat sheet I use when building these things. The color code/pinout is just one I made up. If the line drawing characters show up weird, save the file to DOS and "MORE< RS232.TXT" from a prompt. ______________________________________________________________________ Saleh W. Igal saleh.igal@brightstar.com VP/GM - Application Hosting & Support http://www.brightstar.com BrightStar Information Technology Group Mobile: (214)415-2088 2515 McKinney Avenue, Dallas, TX 75201 VoiceMail: (214)922-9030 ______________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Denny Brennan [mailto:cbrennan@mediaone.net] Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 7:07 am To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Using DB-9 adapters and straight RJ-45 While I have read the instructions regarding using the above to connect the Slink-E to my computer (I need to run about twenty-five feet and would like to do it through wall plates), there's not enough information for me to be sure exactly how to do it. What is the specific wiring requirements? One DB-9/RJ-45 male adapter, one DB-9/RJ45 female adapter and 25 feet of networking cable? Or something else? Also where can I order these things? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. db _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF4D07.0030C32E Content-Type: text/plain; name="RS232.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="RS232.TXT" RS-232 pinouts 25 pin 9 pin Data Abbrev Name Purpose =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D 7 5 n/a SG Signal ground Common ground 2 3 out TD Transmitted data Computer to modem 3 2 in RD Received data Modem to computer 4 7 out RTS Request to send Computer wants to = send data 5 8 in CTS Clear to send Modem gives OK to = send data 20 4 out DTR Data term. ready PC is online 6 6 in DSR Data set ready Modem is turned on 8 1 in CD Carrier detect Modems are = communicating 22 9 in RI Ring indicator Telephone is = ringing =0CNull modems "Standard" null modem Computer A Computer B Description =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D SG =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4SG Ground TD =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4RD Data from A to B RD =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4TD Data from B to A RTS=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4CTS Flow control from A = to B CTS=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4RTS Flow control from B = to A DTR=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C2=C4=C4DSR "Powered on" from A = to B =C0=C4=C4CD DSR=C4=C4=C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4DTR "Powered on" from B = to A CD =C4=C4=D9 Alternative - don't test for power Computer A Computer B Description =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D SG =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4SG Ground TD =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4RD Data from A to B RD =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4TD Data from B to A RTS=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4CTS Flow control from A = to B CTS=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4RTS Flow control from B = to A DTR=C4=C4=BF =DA=C4=C4DTR Fool each computer into = thinking the other is on DSR=C4=C4=B4 =C3=C4=C4DSR CD =C4=C4=D9 =C0=C4=C4CD Alternative - one way flow control Computer Printer Description =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D SG =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4SG Ground TD =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4RD Data from computer to = printer CTS=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4RTS Flow control from = printer to computer DTR=C4=C4=BF =DA=C4=C4DTR Force computer into thinking = printer is powered on DSR=C4=C4=B4 =C3=C4=C4DSR and force printer into thinking = computer is on and CD =C4=C4=D9 =C3=C4=C4CD ready. =C0=C4=C4CTS Alternative - software flow control Computer A Computer B Description =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D SG =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4SG Ground TD =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4RD Data from A to B RD =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4TD Data from B to A DTR=C4=C4=BF =DA=C4=C4DTR Fool each computer into = thinking the other is on DSR=C4=C4=B4 =C3=C4=C4DSR and ready. CD =C4=C4=B4 =C3=C4=C4CD CTS=C4=C4=D9 =C0=C4=C4CTS =0CModular adapter pinouts RJ45 to 9 pin null modem RJ45 pin/Color DB9 pin =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 1=C4=C4=C4blue=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C45 2=C4=C4=C4orange=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C42 3=C4=C4=C4black=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C43 4=C4=C4=C4red=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C47 5=C4=C4=C4green=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C2=C4=C41 =C0=C4=C46 6=C4=C4=C4yellow=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C48 7=C4=C4=C4brown=C4=C4=C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C44 8=C4=C4=C4white=C4=C4=D9 RJ45 to 9 pin straight through RJ45 pin/Color DB9 pin =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 1=C4=C4=C4blue=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C45 2=C4=C4=C4orange=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C43 3=C4=C4=C4black=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C42 4=C4=C4=C4red=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C48 5=C4=C4=C4green=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C44 6=C4=C4=C4yellow=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C47 7=C4=C4=C4brown=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C46 8=C4=C4=C4white=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C41 RJ45 to 25 pin null modem RJ45 pin/Color DB9 pin =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 1=C4=C4=C4blue=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C47 2=C4=C4=C4orange=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C43 3=C4=C4=C4black=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C42 4=C4=C4=C4red=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C44 5=C4=C4=C4green=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C2=C4=C46 =C0=C4=C48 6=C4=C4=C4yellow=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C45 7=C4=C4=C4brown=C4=C4=C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C420 8=C4=C4=C4white=C4=C4=D9 RJ45 to 25 pin straight through RJ45 pin/Color DB25 pin =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 1=C4=C4=C4blue=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C47 2=C4=C4=C4orange=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C42 3=C4=C4=C4black=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C43 4=C4=C4=C4red=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C45 5=C4=C4=C4green=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C420 6=C4=C4=C4yellow=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C44 7=C4=C4=C4brown=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C46 8=C4=C4=C4white=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C48 =0C10-base-T cables RJ45 pin Standard color code Comments =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 1 white/orange =20 2 orange =20 3 white/green =20 4 blue Not used by 10-base-T 5 white/blue Not used by 10-base-T 6 green =20 7 white/brown Not used by 10-base-T 8 brown Not used by 10-base-T Making a "flip" cable to connect two computers or two hubs back-to-back Computer A Computer B =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C43 2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C46 3=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C41 6=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C42 ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF4D07.0030C32E-- From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:17:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:17:25 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Cover art upload possible? At 08:10 AM 12/15/99 , Michael Cody wrote: >Does anyone know if cover art can be uploaded to a CXP-90ES changer? - This >unit has a GUI interface with the TV and promotes that it will show Cover >Art for those CD's that offer it but not sure if the Slink-E would know to >send it. > >Any thoughts? S-link is a very slow interface (2400 baud). I doubt that Sony would have included such a feature as it would be painfully slow. >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:36:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:36:45 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CD Text display on receiver At 04:34 PM 12/16/99 , Thomas W. Humphrey wrote: >Does anyone have documented, the full protocol of messages passed between >a Sony receiver and changer that causes the CD text or CD disc memo to be >displayed on the receiver. If somebody can supply this to me, I will use >it to make a SlinkX application that automatically puts names onto the >receiver for every disc and song that CDJ plays. If you add a device file for the receiver in CDJ then you can watch the S-link traffic while it's happening and see how it's done. David From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:59:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:59:03 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Using DB-9 adapters and straight RJ-45 Here's an excerpt from a little blurb I wrote on CAT-5 serial cables: CAT-5 cables have modular RJ-45 connectors on each end. You can get RJ-45 to DB-9(serial) converters fairly cheap. We get ours from Jameco (part numbers 66190 and 66211). These converters usually don't come with the pins installed but this is simple. There will be 8 wires in each connector. Place one wire in each of the pin holes 1-8 in the DB-9 connector and leave pin hole 9 empty. Do the same for the other end. Make sure to use the same colors wires for the same numbered pins on each end!! David Aue At 05:06 AM 12/20/99 , Denny Brennan wrote: >While I have read the instructions regarding using the above to connect the >Slink-E to my computer (I need to run about twenty-five feet and would like >to do it through wall plates), there's not enough information for me to be >sure exactly how to do it. > >What is the specific wiring requirements? One DB-9/RJ-45 male adapter, one >DB-9/RJ45 female adapter and 25 feet of networking cable? Or something else? > >Also where can I order these things? Any recommendations would be greatly >appreciated. > >db > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From Larry@NWConnect.net Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:55:37 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:55:37 -0800 From: Larry Mar Larry@NWConnect.net Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ Is there a way to have multiple users controlling one slink-e over a network? So if one person adds a song to the playlist it will show up on other computers running CDJ? From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:12:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:12:11 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Receiver Control Hi Marc, The Slink-e software cones with device files for Sony receivers. Depending on what you are trying to do there are different ones. For instance ampsls.cde has codes for selecting inputs. David Aue Nirvis Systems At 08:04 PM 12/20/99 , Marc Parker wrote: >Is there any way to control my S-linked Sony Receiver (STR-DE925) from my >computer via my Slink-E? > >Parker > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:19:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:19:25 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech - slinke connecting ? and X10 beginner help At 06:02 AM 12/21/99 , Knight, Vann M wrote: >1) I think I should be able to feed the IR signal (collected and routed by >my Xantech system) to the slink-e (and thus have some control over the CDJ >software). How do I bridge the IR signal from my Xantech IR bus to my >slink-e? I considered simply taping IR emitter to IR receiver, but there >must be a better way. Xantech signals can be fed into the S-link using the curcuits shown on this web page: http://www.nirvis.com/xantech.htm >2) I recently purchased some X-10 "stuff" including the CM11a... How do I >set up control of X-10 devices thru the slink-e? I've browsed the help (so >please no RTFM flames) and it looks like there is support in the slink-e >device and slink-e server to route signals to the X-10 devices but how does >one originate a signal to send to an X-10 device? I've added the CM11a >device file, and slink-e server can "see" the CM11a. But is there a macro >capability in either the CDJ or slink-e server software? What I've read up >to now in the help indicates to me that there is an ActiveX open interface >implemented, but I've yet found an application which uses this interface... >am I way out in left field here ? It really depends on what you are trying to do. CDJ has a mapping file capability that will allow you to have x-10 signals triggered by other Slink-e events. If you just want to be able to press buttons and have x-10 events happen then a modified version of our TV Remote program would work. David Aue Nirvis Systems From help@nirvis.com Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:49:01 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:49:01 -0800 From: Nirvis Help (David) help@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony MD 920 Hi Scott, It sounds like the MD S-link port might be hosed. I can't think of any reason you should get so much traffic on the Slink-e light and it sounds like it doesn't work with your CX300 either. David At 08:28 AM 12/22/99 , Scott Garrett wrote: >I just bought my Sony 920 Minidisc recorder off of E-bay. I got it home >last night, and tried hooking it into my S-link setup, and am having >bigtime problems. When I hook it into the Slink-e, the activity light goes >almost solid amber, but it doesn't register in the device list. I've tried >both S-link ports on the MD deck and different ports on the Slink-e. I >tried hooking it up directly to the CD changer I have (300 disc changer), >which is working perfectly with the Slink-E. >The MD deck says it will control the changer via slink, but I also get a >"No connect" from them. I'm using a mono 1/8" male to male that I bought >at Radio Shack. > >Anyone out there with a 920 that wants to offer some advice? > >Oh, I did go into CDJ and turn on the traffic window. Despite the amber >traffic light, there is nothing registering in CDJ in the traffic window. > >-- > Scott Garrett mailto:sgarrett@technomancer.com > http://www.technomancer.com > > *** Unix *is* user friendly. It's just picky about who its friends are. > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From dtoub@thegroup.com Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:01:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:01:53 -0500 From: David Toub dtoub@thegroup.com Subject: [slinkelist] PalmPilot Program available? Is there software to control Slinke for either the PalmPilot or other PDA (Vizor?) which would give me CDJ-like capabilities and an IR interface? From jshanker@intac.com Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:34:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:34:38 -0500 From: Judd Shanker jshanker@intac.com Subject: [slinkelist] Can't find Slink-e This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BF4E1C.05940220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The computer that runs my players lost its power supply. I removed it from the cabinet, ordered, received and replaced the power supply and the machine came back to life. Unfortunately, after hooking everything back up, cdj does not find slinke. MP3 works fine. The remote passes IR through to the players. The Cables are the same as before and connections checked and rechecked. 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The computer that runs my players lost its power supply. I removed it = from=20 the cabinet, ordered, received and replaced the power supply and the = machine=20 came back to life. Unfortunately, after hooking everything back up, cdj = does not=20 find slinke. MP3 works fine. The remote passes IR through to the = players. The=20 Cables are the same as before and connections checked and rechecked.

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------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BF4E1C.05940220-- From aue@nirvis.com Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:22:59 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:22:59 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] PalmPilot Program available? I've never heard of any. David Aue Nirvis Systems At 06:01 AM 12/24/99 , David Toub wrote: >Is there software to control Slinke for either the PalmPilot or other PDA >(Vizor?) which would give me CDJ-like capabilities and an IR interface? > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From v-knight@swbell.net Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:13:47 -0600 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:13:47 -0600 From: Vann Knight v-knight@swbell.net Subject: [slinkelist] PalmPilot Program available? There is a program called Omni-Remote which will allow you to set up buttons and learn IR commands. I have it but am not too excited by it, they have been promising more flexibility (ie ability to share libraries of IR commands) for approximaty a year, but have yet to implement that capibility. Have a look at: http://www.pacificneotek.com/ Vann Knight > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of David Aue > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 3:23 PM > To: David Toub > Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] PalmPilot Program available? > > > I've never heard of any. > > David Aue > Nirvis Systems > > At 06:01 AM 12/24/99 , David Toub wrote: > > >Is there software to control Slinke for either the PalmPilot > or other PDA > >(Vizor?) which would give me CDJ-like capabilities and an IR > interface? > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:06:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:06:29 -0500 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting in CDJ - A workaround This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF4E4A.5DD12FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For what it's worth, here is what I have done. I have entered album names into the library in the way I needed to get = the library to sort the way I want. So albums by The Cars are entered = as "Cars, The" in the library, and so on. To keep compilations together = I prefaced all compilation album names with "Compilation", e.g., = "Compilation-The Big 80's". I do the same with Christmas music (all = album names start with "Christmas") and with Childrens (album names = start with "Childrens"). In the track information, you will note that there is a column for = "artist" (add it if you don't have it by customizing the track view). = This column defaults to the album name in the library but CAN BE CHANGED = on a track-by-track basis. So for example for a compilation you can put = the individual artist names into the track information window for each = track. I believe Colby made the artists customizable on a track basis = in order to allow proper entry of compilations. Now the trick. After I set up my library with album names that will sort correctly, I = then went back to the Artist column in the track information and typed = in the album name the way I want it to appear. So an album by The Cars = which has "Cars, The" under the album name in the library, has "The = Cars" listed as the artist for every track in the track window. THis = way, CDJ's title bar will list songs as by "The Cars" rather than "Cars, = The". CDJ will also report "The Cars" rather than "Cars, The" in slinkx = events so that the SlinkySaver will also display "The Cars" rather than = "Cars, The" when it plays a song off the album. So, you get the library = sorted the way you want and you get artist names listed the way you want = in CDJ's title bar and SlinkySaver. It was a pain in the butt to revise all of the library entries to follow = this approach, but I think it was worth it. Hope this helps anyone that reads it. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF4E4A.5DD12FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For what it's worth, here is what I have = done.
 
I have entered album names into the library in the = way I=20 needed to get the library to sort the way I want.  So albums by The = Cars=20 are entered as "Cars, The" in the library, and so on.  To keep = compilations=20 together I prefaced all compilation album names with "Compilation", = e.g.,=20 "Compilation-The Big 80's".  I do the same with Christmas music = (all album=20 names start with "Christmas") and with Childrens (album names start with = "Childrens").
 
In the track information, you will note that there = is a column=20 for "artist" (add it if you don't have it by customizing the track = view). =20 This column defaults to the album name in the library but CAN BE CHANGED = on a=20 track-by-track basis.  So for example for a compilation you can put = the=20 individual artist names into the track information window for each = track. =20 I believe Colby made the artists customizable on a track basis in order = to allow=20 proper entry of compilations.
 
Now the trick.
 
After I set up my library with album names that will = sort=20 correctly, I then went back to the Artist column in the track = information and=20 typed in the album name the way I want it to appear.  So an album = by The=20 Cars which has "Cars, The" under the album name in the library, has "The = Cars"=20 listed as the artist for every track in the track window.  THis = way, CDJ's=20 title bar will list songs as by "The Cars" rather than "Cars, = The".  CDJ=20 will also report "The Cars" rather than "Cars, The" in slinkx events so = that the=20 SlinkySaver will also display "The Cars" rather than "Cars, The" when it = plays a=20 song off the album.  So, you get the library sorted the way you = want and=20 you get artist names listed the way you want in CDJ's title bar and=20 SlinkySaver.
 
It was a pain in the butt to revise all of the = library entries=20 to follow this approach, but I think it was worth it.
 
Hope this helps anyone that reads=20 it.
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF4E4A.5DD12FC0-- From rich@ihug.co.nz Sat, 25 Dec 1999 23:18:56 +1300 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 23:18:56 +1300 From: Richard Malcolm-Smith rich@ihug.co.nz Subject: [slinkelist] Can't find Slink-e > Judd Shanker wrote: > > The computer that runs my players lost its power supply. I removed it > from the cabinet, ordered, received and replaced the power supply and > the machine came back to life. Unfortunately, after hooking everything > back up, cdj does not find slinke. MP3 works fine. The remote passes > IR through to the players. The Cables are the same as before and > connections checked and rechecked. > > Any ideas? Serial ports use the negative supply rail (About the only thing in a PC that does), if the power supply did anything stupid when it blew up it may have blown the serial port driver up. Try a mouse or something on the port, but thats not a conclustive indication since mice dont need a negative rail to operate. Otherwise try a modem or something on the same port and check that it works ok.. From allahsiz@home.com Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:01:54 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:01:54 -0800 From: Sinan Karasu allahsiz@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony MD 920 "Nirvis Help (David)" wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > It sounds like the MD S-link port might be hosed. I can't think of any > reason you should get so much traffic on the Slink-e light and it sounds > like it doesn't work with your CX300 either. > > David > One other possibility is the cable. At one time I bought a cable from some store, and it wreaked havoc with my s-link system. Upon further investigation it turned out to have a 10 ohm resistor (shunt) in one of the connectors. I don't what it was intended for, but I just threw it away.... Sinan From michael@laserle.fi Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:41:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:41:52 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ Larry Mar wrote: > > Is there a way to have multiple users controlling one slink-e over a > network? So if one person adds a song to the playlist it will show up on > other computers running CDJ? - Use VNC !!!!!! in http://gallien.physik.tu-chemnitz.de/vnc/index.html or do a web search "orl +vnc" -> have multiple users (on remote computers) controlling one (multiple) computer (running cdj) - this solves all the problems of controlling cdj remotely and more... -michael (A) From michael@laserle.fi Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:50:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:50:51 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ sorry, the VNC site real (current) address is : http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ this is a free software : - the setup is really easy. The program is <1Mb " What is VNC? - A practical introduction VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing. It is, in essence, a remote display system which allows you to view a computing 'desktop' environment not only on the machine where it is running, but from anywhere on the Internet and from a wide variety of machine architectures. " Everyone with cdj on a network MUST try this !!!!!!!!!! -michael (A) From sgarrett@technomancer.com Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:53:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:53:18 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Garrett sgarrett@technomancer.com Subject: BEWARE OF ATTENUATING CABLES! was Re: [slinkelist] Sony MD 920 On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Sinan Karasu wrote: > > It sounds like the MD S-link port might be hosed. I can't think of any > > reason you should get so much traffic on the Slink-e light and it sounds > > like it doesn't work with your CX300 either. Thanks to all who responded! As it turned out, I had bought an attenuating cable instead of a patch cable. I still haven't quite figured out what you use an attenuating cable for, but it sure isn't for S-Link. :) So for anyone who goes to Radio Shack to buy cables, pay closer attention than I did and don't get the attenuating cable. The bag is labelled, but it doesn't stand out. The cable itself is not labelled at all. The only difference is that the ends where the 1/8th inch plug is held are slightly thicker than the patch cable, but you couldn't tell without a proper one to compare. -- Scott Garrett mailto:sgarrett@technomancer.com http://www.technomancer.com *** Unix *is* user friendly. It's just picky about who its friends are. From pbnlb@tiac.net Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:10:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:10:55 -0500 From: pete pbnlb@tiac.net Subject: [slinkelist] Can't find Slink-e I did have a problem like this once. I power cycled the player {ie pulled the plug} and that cleared up everything. Anybody else seen their players get into a "bad" way like this? At the time I was running the slink over about 50 feet of cat-5. {didn't work very well for me}. -pete Judd Shanker wrote: > The computer that runs my players lost its power supply. I removed it > from the cabinet, ordered, received and replaced the power supply and > the machine came back to life. Unfortunately, after hooking everything > back up, cdj does not find slinke. MP3 works fine. The remote passes > IR through to the players. The Cables are the same as before and > connections checked and rechecked. > > Any ideas? From aue@nirvis.com Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:52:32 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:52:32 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Can't find Slink-e Hi Judd, I think you want to determine if it is the serial port or the Slink-e. Try getting another serial device to work on the same port and try using the slink-e on another computer. This should give you some significant data to narrow down the problem. David Aue Nirvis Systems At 11:34 AM 12/24/99 , Judd Shanker wrote: >The computer that runs my players lost its power supply. I removed it from >the cabinet, ordered, received and replaced the power supply and the >machine came back to life. Unfortunately, after hooking everything back >up, cdj does not find slinke. MP3 works fine. The remote passes IR through >to the players. The Cables are the same as before and connections checked >and rechecked. > >Any ideas? From rbrocaw@flash.net Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:57:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:57:29 -0700 From: rbrocaw rbrocaw@flash.net Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke, custom app and Sony CDP-CX300 It's been a while, so I thought I might make this query again... I still have not been able to figure this out. I have written a custom database application that uses the Slinke and the Slinke custom control. I have a Sony CDP-CX205 player and a Sony CDP-CX300 player connected. I am using the device file for the Sony 200 disk changer, the only one I know of. I am NOT using CDJ. Problem: I can only get the software to recognize the first 200 disks in the 300 disk changer using this device file. The device file allows only 8 bits for the disk number, and using the BCD numbering scheme the highest number allowed is FE which is disk 200. I have been told that I do not need a separate device file for the 300 disk changer, but I don't understand how that would work. Switching the player to Control A1 II doesn't help, in fact most commands don't work in that mode through this device file. There must be a trick to this, because CDJ figures it out and allows all 300 disks, but I am not using CDJ. Anybody know how CDJ does this trick? How to get the Slinke custom control with the 200 disk .CDE file to recognize the 300 disk player? I'm almost done with my project, and now have 100 inaccessible slots in the player. HELP! Thanks. Richard rbrocaw@flash.net From redrobo@vossnet.co.uk Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:40:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:40:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Robin Humphries redrobo@vossnet.co.uk Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke, custom app and Sony CDP-CX300 On Mon 27 Dec, rbrocaw wrote: > It's been a while, so I thought I might make this query again... I still > have not > been able to figure this out. > > I have written a custom database application that uses the Slinke and > the > Slinke custom control. > > I have a Sony CDP-CX205 player and a Sony CDP-CX300 player connected. > > I am using the device file for the Sony 200 disk changer, the only one I > know > of. > > I am NOT using CDJ. > > Problem: I can only get the software to recognize the first 200 disks in > the 300 > disk changer using this device file. The device file allows only 8 bits > for the > disk number, and using the BCD numbering scheme the highest number > allowed > is FE which is disk 200. I have been told that I do not need a separate > device > file for the 300 disk changer, but I don't understand how that would > work. > Switching the player to Control A1 II doesn't help, in fact most > commands > don't work in that mode through this device file. > > There must be a trick to this, because CDJ figures it out and allows all > 300 > disks, but I am not using CDJ. > > Anybody know how CDJ does this trick? How to get the Slinke custom > control with the 200 disk .CDE file to recognize the 300 disk player? > > I'm almost done with my project, and now have 100 inaccessible slots in > the > player. > > HELP! > > Thanks. > > Richard > rbrocaw@flash.net Yes I would like to know what is the code for selecting discs 201 to 300 on a 300 sony disc changer. As you say the highest 8 bit decimal number is 200. So would someone kindly tell us what is the format. Many Thanks Robin. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin Humphries : Acorn RiscOS4 : mailto:redrobo@vossnet.co.uk Kent U.K : StrongArm RiscPC : Software = ANT Internet Suite II ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From hugo@hunterlink.net.au Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:19:35 +1100 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:19:35 +1100 From: Hugo Steiner hugo@hunterlink.net.au Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) confirm 277232 --- Hugo Steiner P: +61 2 4969 0176 The light at the end of the HunterLink Pty Limited F: +61 2 4969 0133 tunnel could be a dragon From teepe@gmx.net Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:38:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:38:24 +0100 From: Gerd Teepe teepe@gmx.net Subject: [slinkelist] CDP 350 Hi Folks ! If I start CDJ and start a CD with it in my CDP-350, is it possible to send a command that the player show the text line in the display and not the time. It would be very nice if this works automatic. Grtx. Gerd From aue@nirvis.com Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:54:27 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:54:27 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDP 350 Hi Gerd, There is a time/text button on the player that will do that. David Aue Nirvis Systems At 02:38 PM 12/27/99 , Gerd Teepe wrote: >Hi Folks ! > >If I start CDJ and start a CD with it in my CDP-350, >is it possible to send a command that the player >show the text line in the display and not the time. > >It would be very nice if this works automatic. > >Grtx. >Gerd > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From AndyStein@aol.com Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:51:48 EST Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:51:48 EST From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech - slinke connecting ? and X10 beginner help Would the circuit you are considering building to address the first issue resolve the problem I am having getting CDJ to control slave players when the masters are set to mode 2? I haven't found anyone to build the circuit you had posted on your Web site, so if the circuit you are considering would make my set-up work, it would help me. (To recap, I had a 90ES controlling a slave and a 270 controlling a slave. I have just bought another 270, which will sit alone until it fills up, an event I hope rests in the distant future. I won't have trouble adding the new 270 to my Slink-e, will I?) Andrew In a message dated 12/22/99 7:55:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, cboles@nirvis.com writes: << Subj: RE: [slinkelist] Xantech - slinke connecting ? and X10 beginner help Date: 12/22/99 7:55:22 PM Pacific Standard Time From: cboles@nirvis.com (Colby Boles) Sender: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com To: vann.m.knight@boeing.com (Knight, Vann M), slinkelist@nirvis.com Hi Vann- 1) I have designed just such a circuit. You can find the schematics for it at http://www.nirvis.com/xantech.htm depending on the number of people interested, I may build such a device to adapt to Xantech. Electronics are required because the Xantech system contains the IR carrier whereas the slink-e IR inputs do not. 2) The X10 device commands are described in the help under The SlinkX ActiveX control -> CM11a X10 Interface For example, if you loaded the cm11a.cde device in CDJ and called it "x10", you could issue the following command to turn on a light at address A1: x10:on[a1] likewise, you could create a macro in your map file where sending command to A2 from an X10 keypad starts / stops your playlist: x10:on[a2] {cdj:playlist_play} x10:off[a2] {cdj:playlist_stop} Colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Knight, Vann M Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:02 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech - slinke connecting ? and X10 beginner help Folks, I've had my slink-e for about 6 months now and love it. I have my audio gear tucked away in my basement. I have a Xantech multiple channel pre-amp and amps, I have Xantech IR receivers in each room (and emitters in the basement to route IR signals to the Xantech and other audio devices). Up to now I have been using the slink-e just to control my Sony 300 CD juke box with the very nice CDJ software. I use a Pronto remote to control the rest of my system including the Sony CD jukebox (when I'm not using the CDJ to play a play-list). I've noticed that since I don't have a feed from the IR bus to slink-e that when I am controlling the Sony jukebox with CDJ, my IR commands to the Sony with a remote don't always "take". My question(s): 1) I think I should be able to feed the IR signal (collected and routed by my Xantech system) to the slink-e (and thus have some control over the CDJ software). How do I bridge the IR signal from my Xantech IR bus to my slink-e? I considered simply taping IR emitter to IR receiver, but there must be a better way. 2) I recently purchased some X-10 "stuff" including the CM11a... How do I set up control of X-10 devices thru the slink-e? I've browsed the help (so please no RTFM flames) and it looks like there is support in the slink-e device and slink-e server to route signals to the X-10 devices but how does one originate a signal to send to an X-10 device? I've added the CM11a device file, and slink-e server can "see" the CM11a. But is there a macro capability in either the CDJ or slink-e server software? What I've read up to now in the help indicates to me that there is an ActiveX open interface implemented, but I've yet found an application which uses this interface... am I way out in left field here ? thanks for any help, Vann - Vann Knight - vann.m.knight@boeing.com - (314) 234-9881 voice - (314) 233-5094 fax - - "Nous sommes du soleil" >> From j-talbot@online.no Tue, 28 Dec 1999 03:07:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 03:07:59 +0100 From: Johnny Talbot j-talbot@online.no Subject: [slinkelist] IR LINK UP TO ROWE CD100 LASERSTAR This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF50E0.BEF9C6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using the Slinke-E box and CDJ software. Great software. I am just = about to invest in my third CDP-CX350.=20 However my question is can I make the Slinke-E / software control my = ROWE AMI CD 100 Laserstar jukebox. Does anybody have some ideas. This = jukebox does have an IR interface kit added.=20 I look forward to hearing if anyone has an idea. Many thanks Johnny Talbot Oslo Norway ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF50E0.BEF9C6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm using the Slinke-E box and CDJ = software. Great=20 software. I am just about to invest in my third CDP-CX350.
 
However my question is can I make the = Slinke-E / software control my ROWE AMI CD 100 = Laserstar=20 jukebox. Does anybody have some ideas. This jukebox does have an IR = interface=20 kit added.
 
I look forward to hearing if anyone has = an=20 idea.
 
Many thanks
 
Johnny Talbot
Oslo Norway
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF50E0.BEF9C6C0-- From j-talbot@online.no Tue, 28 Dec 1999 03:14:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 03:14:03 +0100 From: Johnny Talbot j-talbot@online.no Subject: [slinkelist] RE: IR link SLINKE E This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF50E1.97D5D420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using the Slinke-E box and CDJ software. Great software. I am just = about to invest in my third CDP-CX350.=20 =20 However my question is can I make the Slinke-E / software control my = ROWE AMI CD 100 Laserstar jukebox. Does anybody have some ideas. This = jukebox does have an IR interface kit added.=20 =20 I look forward to hearing if anyone has an idea. Many thanks Johnny Talbot Oslo Norway ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF50E1.97D5D420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm using the Slinke-E box and CDJ = software. Great=20 software. I am just about to invest in my third CDP-CX350.
 
However my question is can I make the = Slinke-E / software control my ROWE AMI CD 100 = Laserstar=20 jukebox. Does anybody have some ideas. This jukebox does have an IR = interface=20 kit added.
 
I look forward to hearing if anyone has = an=20 idea.
 
Many thanks
 
Johnny Talbot
Oslo = Norway
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF50E1.97D5D420-- From mark@mwcapital.net Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:08:36 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:08:36 -0800 From: Mark A. Madigan mark@mwcapital.net Subject: [slinkelist] Removing audio file album I can't figure out how to remove my audio file albums from the library. Help? -Regards, Mark Madigan MW Capital w-206.443.1297 c-206.605.4549 f-206.374.2721 From mark@mwcapital.net Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:30:12 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:30:12 -0800 From: Mark A. Madigan mark@mwcapital.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: [slikelist] Removing audio album file Um, Mark Turner quickly pointed out the rather obvious solution--one which I have (sheepishly) overlooked--highlight and hit delete key. I must have forgotten about that stupid delete key... Must go wash the egg off my face. -Regards, Mark Madigan MW Capital w-206.443.1297 c-206.605.4549 f-206.374.2721 From parkdog@ix.netcom.com Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:31:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:31:47 -0600 From: Marc Parker parkdog@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ I don't understand how VNC would help with a networked CDJ, as it doesn't allow you to control the remote machine. Parker > From: Michael Holopainen > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:50:51 +0200 > To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com" > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ > > sorry, the VNC site real (current) address is : > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ > > this is a free software : > - the setup is really easy. The program is <1Mb > " > What is VNC? - A practical introduction > VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing. It is, in essence, a remote > display system which allows you to view a computing > 'desktop' environment not only on the machine where it is running, but > from anywhere on the Internet and from a wide variety of > machine architectures. > " > > Everyone with cdj on a network MUST try this !!!!!!!!!! > > > -michael (A) > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From davekolb@email.msn.com Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:28:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:28:37 -0500 From: Dave Kolb davekolb@email.msn.com Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ It lets you BE the remote machine. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Marc Parker To: Michael Holopainen ; slinkelist@nirvis.com Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ >I don't understand how VNC would help with a networked CDJ, as it doesn't >allow you to control the remote machine. > >Parker > >> From: Michael Holopainen >> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:50:51 +0200 >> To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com" >> Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ >> >> sorry, the VNC site real (current) address is : >> >> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ >> >> this is a free software : >> - the setup is really easy. The program is <1Mb >> " >> What is VNC? - A practical introduction >> VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing. It is, in essence, a remote >> display system which allows you to view a computing >> 'desktop' environment not only on the machine where it is running, but >> from anywhere on the Internet and from a wide variety of >> machine architectures. >> " >> >> Everyone with cdj on a network MUST try this !!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> -michael (A) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >> http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From michael@laserle.fi Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:24:37 +0200 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:24:37 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ Marc Parker wrote: >>> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ > > Get a little excited over this stuff eh? - What do you mean by "little" ?? ;-) (a joke) -Yes, I do. So should you. --michael (A) ------------ From leb-anon@ix.netcom.com Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:24:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:24:21 -0500 From: Mike Zmuda leb-anon@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] Y2K ERROR! Hey, Did I see that date right? Did the Slink-E-List have a 1/1/99 date = on it? TIME TO DOUBLE CHECK FOR Y2K COMPLIANCE! Have a safe and happy Y2K, everyone... See you next millennium! ** IMPORTANT MESSAGE: ** AS OF FEB 1, 2000 MY E-MAIL ACCOUNT WILL BE ** ** MZmuda@MiraclesOnDemand.com ** ** PLEASE UPDATE THIS FOR YOUR GROUP MAILINGS, ** ADDRESS BOOKS, AND MAKE NOTE OF IT FOR FUTURE ** CORRESPONDENCE. From guineau@earthlink.net Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:54:22 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:54:22 -0800 From: W. John Guineau guineau@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ I thought that what SlinkServ and DCOM support were for? I spent about 5 minutes one night trying to install DCOM and SlinkServ, but I never got it working. It's been my intent since buying the Slink-e to have it "distributed" across the house LAN available on any PC in the house to control the main A/V stuff. Am I missing something here with regard to remote control of Slink-e/CDJ? john > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Marc Parker > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 11:32 AM > To: Michael Holopainen; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ > > > I don't understand how VNC would help with a networked CDJ, as it doesn't > allow you to control the remote machine. > > Parker > > > From: Michael Holopainen > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:50:51 +0200 > > To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com" > > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ > > > > sorry, the VNC site real (current) address is : > > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ > > > > this is a free software : > > - the setup is really easy. The program is <1Mb > > " > > What is VNC? - A practical introduction > > VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing. It is, in essence, a remote > > display system which allows you to view a computing > > 'desktop' environment not only on the machine where it is running, but > > from anywhere on the Internet and from a wide variety of > > machine architectures. > > " > > > > Everyone with cdj on a network MUST try this !!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > -michael (A) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From allahsiz@home.com Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:20:08 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:20:08 -0800 From: Sinan Karasu allahsiz@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ Michael Holopainen wrote: > Marc Parker wrote: > >>> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ > > > > Get a little excited over this stuff eh? > > - What do you mean by "little" ?? ;-) (a joke) > > -Yes, I do. So should you. > > --michael (A) > ------------ I have been using VNC on my SpacrStations and PCs with Solaris x86 running on them. To tell you the truth, the only reason I have a PC with Microsoft OS on it in te house is to run 1) Quicken , 2 ) CDJ. I wish that whole CDJ s/w was ported to Java so that we can leave this horrible Microsoft s/w behind. But meanwhile, VNC is the second best thing until Colby switches over to Java. Sinan From pbnlb@tiac.net Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:28:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:28:42 -0500 From: pete pbnlb@tiac.net Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ John, I agree that SlinkServ and DCOM is a great way to go, but DCOM implies a few things that may or may not be a problem for you. For instance; I have only Win98 machines. DCOM requires that you run your Win98 machines with User-Level Security. But to do that, you must have an Authentication server on your net {Win98 machines can NOT be Authentication servers/Primary Domain Controllers ... only WinNT} so ! VNC made perfect sense for me .. no muss no fuss ... it just works ! I think it would make sense for Win95 only users too. But if you have at least one WinNT machine and no Win95 machines, I think you'd be nuts not to use DCOM with SlinkServ since it's so much faster than VNC. Just my 2 cents -pete "W. John Guineau" wrote: > > I thought that what SlinkServ and DCOM support were for? > > I spent about 5 minutes one night trying to install DCOM and SlinkServ, but > I never got it working. It's been my intent since buying the Slink-e to have > it "distributed" across the house LAN available on any PC in the house to > control the main A/V stuff. > > Am I missing something here with regard to remote control of Slink-e/CDJ? > > john > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Marc Parker > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 11:32 AM > > To: Michael Holopainen; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ > > > > > > I don't understand how VNC would help with a networked CDJ, as it doesn't > > allow you to control the remote machine. > > > > Parker > > > > > From: Michael Holopainen > > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:50:51 +0200 > > > To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com" > > > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ > > > > > > sorry, the VNC site real (current) address is : > > > > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ > > > > > > this is a free software : > > > - the setup is really easy. The program is <1Mb > > > " > > > What is VNC? - A practical introduction > > > VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing. It is, in essence, a remote > > > display system which allows you to view a computing > > > 'desktop' environment not only on the machine where it is running, but > > > from anywhere on the Internet and from a wide variety of > > > machine architectures. > > > " > > > > > > Everyone with cdj on a network MUST try this !!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > -michael (A) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From aue@nirvis.com Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:02:06 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:02:06 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Y2K ERROR! Yeah, in the process of trying to fix a minor Y2K problem I caused a worse one. I think it would have been better if I just left things alone :-) I'll bet more bugs get introduced trying to fix Y2K problems than get solved. David Aue At 09:24 AM 12/29/99 , Mike Zmuda wrote: >Hey, Did I see that date right? Did the Slink-E-List have a 1/1/99 date on it? >TIME TO DOUBLE CHECK FOR Y2K COMPLIANCE! > >Have a safe and happy Y2K, everyone... See you next millennium! > >** IMPORTANT MESSAGE: >** AS OF FEB 1, 2000 MY E-MAIL ACCOUNT WILL BE >** >** MZmuda@MiraclesOnDemand.com >** >** PLEASE UPDATE THIS FOR YOUR GROUP MAILINGS, >** ADDRESS BOOKS, AND MAKE NOTE OF IT FOR FUTURE >** CORRESPONDENCE. > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From guineau@earthlink.net Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:35:19 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:35:19 -0800 From: W. John Guineau guineau@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ Ah, right. I remember reading that you needed to have NT on the network. At the time I was running Windows 2000 RC2, but just didn't have the time to get past seeing if it worked right off the bat. I've also been using VNC for some time between work and home and to the other PC around the house (on a LAN). VNC is great! john > -----Original Message----- > From: pete [mailto:pbnlb@tiac.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 12:29 PM > To: W. John Guineau > Cc: Marc Parker; Michael Holopainen; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ > > > John, > > I agree that SlinkServ and DCOM is a great way to go, but DCOM implies > a few things that may or may not be a problem for you. For instance; I > have only Win98 machines. DCOM requires that you run your Win98 machines > with User-Level Security. But to do that, you must have an > Authentication > server on your net {Win98 machines can NOT be Authentication > servers/Primary Domain Controllers ... only WinNT} so ! VNC made perfect > sense > for me .. no muss no fuss ... it just works ! I think it would make > sense > for Win95 only users too. > > But if you have at least one WinNT machine and no Win95 machines, I > think you'd > be nuts not to use DCOM with SlinkServ since it's so much faster than > VNC. > > Just my 2 cents > > -pete > > "W. John Guineau" wrote: > > > > I thought that what SlinkServ and DCOM support were for? > > > > I spent about 5 minutes one night trying to install DCOM and > SlinkServ, but > > I never got it working. It's been my intent since buying the > Slink-e to have > > it "distributed" across the house LAN available on any PC in > the house to > > control the main A/V stuff. > > > > Am I missing something here with regard to remote control of > Slink-e/CDJ? > > > > john > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > Behalf Of Marc Parker > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 11:32 AM > > > To: Michael Holopainen; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ > > > > > > > > > I don't understand how VNC would help with a networked CDJ, > as it doesn't > > > allow you to control the remote machine. > > > > > > Parker > > > > > > > From: Michael Holopainen > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:50:51 +0200 > > > > To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com" > > > > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ > > > > > > > > sorry, the VNC site real (current) address is : > > > > > > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ > > > > > > > > this is a free software : > > > > - the setup is really easy. The program is <1Mb > > > > " > > > > What is VNC? - A practical introduction > > > > VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing. It is, in > essence, a remote > > > > display system which allows you to view a computing > > > > 'desktop' environment not only on the machine where it is > running, but > > > > from anywhere on the Internet and from a wide variety of > > > > machine architectures. > > > > " > > > > > > > > Everyone with cdj on a network MUST try this !!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > -michael (A) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From neil@neils.net Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:40:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:40:22 -0500 From: Neil Cunningham neil@neils.net Subject: [slinkelist] Receiver Status from Slink Does anyone have a small piece of vb code that show how to display the status sent back on slink? i.e. current vol, mode, source name. I tried calling the commands listed in the sony slink file but all I get is -1. Might be a programming goof up on my part so fill free to enlighten me. Thanks, Neil From neil@neils.net Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:43:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:43:23 -0500 From: Neil Cunningham neil@neils.net Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e box mod Has anyone looked into the possiblity of having the slinke modified to fit in a 5 1/4 drive bay? I would like to modify a front piece for the IR rec. and make rear plates for IR/Slink/Control-s/Expanstion. The main concearn is power. Could the slinke run off of the cpu voltage? Thanks, Neil From Michael.2000@mciworld.com Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:16:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:16:11 -0500 From: Mike Michael.2000@mciworld.com Subject: [slinkelist] Fading and overlap of mp3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_obcX80astBH1FJcWakMH7g) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I have not yet discovered how to do overlap fades using multiple MP3s or = MP3 to CD tracks. Is this possible? I understand one output is out of my = sound card and other is out of the CD players, that's taken care of with = a conventional mixer. But CDJ ends an MP3 cold before it starts a CD = track and visa versa, while CDs crossfade and overlap flawlessly. Any = Ideas?? Michael Korzep Michael.2000@mciworld.com --Boundary_(ID_obcX80astBH1FJcWakMH7g) Content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
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--Boundary_(ID_obcX80astBH1FJcWakMH7g)-- From dmullin@knotzdigital.com Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:39:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:39:20 -0500 From: D. Mullin dmullin@knotzdigital.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony Munchin' CD's I have 3 Sony Changers, and have noticed that the outer edge of most of the cd's are becoming rough. Some are worse than others -- as some cd's get played more than others. All the changers are showing some signs of "wear" on the cd's. Anyone else notice this problem? The changers are 220 and 240's. From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:36:05 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:36:05 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Fading and overlap of mp3 Cross fading is not supported for MP3's. David At 12:16 PM 12/30/99 , Mike wrote: >I have not yet discovered how to do overlap fades using multiple MP3s or >MP3 to CD tracks. Is this possible? I understand one output is out of my >sound card and other is out of the CD players, that's taken care of with a >conventional mixer. But CDJ ends an MP3 cold before it starts a CD track >and visa versa, while CDs crossfade and overlap flawlessly. Any Ideas?? > >Michael Korzep >Michael.2000@mciworld.com From stephenkorow@decisionresearch.com Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:16:01 -1000 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:16:01 -1000 From: Stephen Korow stephenkorow@decisionresearch.com Subject: [slinkelist] Trying to understand cross-fading requirements I just purchased a Sony CDP-CX300 and slink-e. I love it. However, there is a long pause when it switches from disc to disc. If I get a second CDP-CX300 will I be able to do cross-fading or do I have to purchase something else? I know I will have to alternate players between songs, but, other than that do I have to buy additional equipment? Thanks for the info. Steve From kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:00:25 PST Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:00:25 PST From: Ken Geoffrion kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Trying to understand cross-fading requirements All you'll need is a second player. Works nicely! :> ----Original Message Follows---- From: Stephen Korow To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Trying to understand cross-fading requirements Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:16:01 -1000 I just purchased a Sony CDP-CX300 and slink-e. I love it. However, there is a long pause when it switches from disc to disc. If I get a second CDP-CX300 will I be able to do cross-fading or do I have to purchase something else? I know I will have to alternate players between songs, but, other than that do I have to buy additional equipment? Thanks for the info. Steve _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:57:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:57:45 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Trying to understand cross-fading requirements You will also need an analog mixer. These can be purchased pretty cheaply or built from the plans on our web site or you can use the one built into the player if you're willing to open it and clip a resistor. At 04:16 PM 12/30/99 , Stephen Korow wrote: >I just purchased a Sony CDP-CX300 and slink-e. I love it. However, there >is a long pause when it switches from disc to disc. If I get a second >CDP-CX300 will I be able to do cross-fading or do I have to purchase >something else? I know I will have to alternate players between songs, but, >other than that do I have to buy additional equipment? > >Thanks for the info. > >Steve > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From allahsiz@home.com Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:51:26 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:51:26 -0800 From: Sinan Karasu allahsiz@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Trying to understand cross-fading requirements Stephen Korow wrote: > I just purchased a Sony CDP-CX300 and slink-e. I love it. However, there > is a long pause when it switches from disc to disc. If I get a second > CDP-CX300 will I be able to do cross-fading or do I have to purchase Yes. There are a few ways, all with plusses and minuses. First of all you have to decide which of the followings are important to you. 1) No delay play. That is when one song ends , another immediately starts 2) Cross fading. That is next song starts before the current one ends and they are cross faded. 3) Analog connection to the receiver. 4) SPDIF connection to the receiver. 1 & 3 is possible with just 2 players and an analog mixer. Analog mixer could just be a resistor network. Colby has a schematic for this. 2& 3 is also possible with the above setup. 1 & 4 requires you to purchase a DXS unit. 2 & 4 is NOT possible at this time(cheaply). Until/if/when Colby's DSP module is designed/manufactured/sold , the only way you'll be able to do it is thru a fancy SPDIF Mixer card. It will not be true cross fading, but mixing. However since both CD players are running on different (asynchronous SPDIF clocks), mixing becomes pretty hard. Professional equips run on master clocks circumventing this stuff. Sinan > > something else? I know I will have to alternate players between songs, but, > other than that do I have to buy additional equipment? > > Thanks for the info. > > Steve From kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:10:03 PST Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:10:03 PST From: Ken Geoffrion kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Trying to understand cross-fading requirements If you're using the analog outputs, you can connect your slave player's audio output into the master player's aux input. No special mixers are required then. I have my Sony CDP-CX260 connected to my CDP-CX350 and it works fine. ----Original Message Follows---- From: David Aue To: Stephen Korow CC: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Trying to understand cross-fading requirements Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:57:45 -0800 You will also need an analog mixer. These can be purchased pretty cheaply or built from the plans on our web site or you can use the one built into the player if you're willing to open it and clip a resistor. At 04:16 PM 12/30/99 , Stephen Korow wrote: >I just purchased a Sony CDP-CX300 and slink-e. I love it. However, there >is a long pause when it switches from disc to disc. If I get a second >CDP-CX300 will I be able to do cross-fading or do I have to purchase >something else? I know I will have to alternate players between songs, >but, >other than that do I have to buy additional equipment? > >Thanks for the info. > >Steve > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From PMan@Crusaders.no Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:39:22 +0100 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:39:22 +0100 From: P.Man PMan@Crusaders.no Subject: [slinkelist] S-Link and Onkyo equippment I looked at the backpanel of my Onkyo amplifyer and found a jack plug = connection for external units, does anyone know anything about this? Is it possible to take control over the amplifyer using S-Link? It seems = to me that it's a 5V signal resemling in some way's the sony signal. But i'm still an amateur in this game. Please enlighten me. Peace=20 P.Man From mypeter@bigfoot.com Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:17:42 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:17:42 -0800 From: Peter Myers mypeter@bigfoot.com Subject: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ PC Anywhere (from Norton I think) works similarly. I use it at work to control machines on different continents over the net. Seems to work well. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Holopainen To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Networking CDJ > > >Marc Parker wrote: >>>> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ >> >> Get a little excited over this stuff eh? > >- What do you mean by "little" ?? ;-) (a joke) > >-Yes, I do. So should you. > >--michael (A) >------------ > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist