[slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ?

George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com
Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:18:01 -0800


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Colby and David,

This might be helpful on this topic.  I have a database that I use for my
Karaoke.  As any of you who goes to Karaoke knows that sorting is a big
issue.  This is how I implemented the database.

There are two fields, one labeled Last Name/Group Name and the other one
labeled First Name/Literary Words.  This way, you only need to enter the
artist information once.  Then I have codes that will sort by the first
field and then second field (Last Name - First Name or Group Name - Literary
Words).  The Last/first Name is obvious.  The Literary words would be all
the "The", "A", and "An".  When I need to display the artist, I simply
display the second field first and then the first field (First Name - Last
Name or Literary Words - Group Name).  For those group names that do not
start with a literary word, simply leave the second field blank.  And the
display must be intellegent enough to not put a space in between the two
fields if the Literary field is blank.  For those one name artists, like
Cher or Blondie, I put them in the first field as Last Names.

The only bitch about this method is that CDDB does not support this method.
So for those who want to take advantage of this, would have to manually
enter the artists.  This method has worked flawlessly in my Karaoke
database.

George Tang

-----Original Message-----
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
Behalf Of Michael Roper
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 11:47 AM
To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com'
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ?


I just posted a similar complaint/solution on the BBS after searching didn't
come up with anything really useful.  My need is to have CDJ display the
artists in the order I specify, so the query doesn't help there.

The solution (two "artist" fields in the album table--one to use for sorting
and the other to use for display) seems simple to retrofit into CDJ without
much work or worry--hopefully we'll see it implemented soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: George Tang [mailto:GeorgeT@concur.com]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:27 AM
To: 'Scott Specker'; 'slinkelist@nirvis.com'
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ?


The reason why you didn't see any replies is because this is an old long
time standing issue.  Many discussions have already taken place on this
topic.  One way to do this is to write an Access query that'll do the job
for you rather than manual edit.  You can even set it up so that you have a
Windows shortcut that'll launch Access, open the database, and run a script
that'll run the query.  But you do need to click on the shortcut to run it
manually.

Hope this helps.
George Tang

P.S. Check the Nirvis BBS for other ideas on this topic.

-----Original Message-----
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
Behalf Of Scott Specker
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:09 AM
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ?


Well I didn't see any replies. It'd be nice if CDJ did this for you but not
many programs have this feature for sorting lists.

I've taken to solving it the brute force way ... manual editing. I've gone
through my titles and changed all the album names like "The XXXXXX" to
"XXXXXX, The". In some cases I just dropped "the" or "a", but most of the
time I use the ",".

For whatever it's worth,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
Behalf Of Michael Holopainen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:45 AM
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting albums, any ideas ?


Does anyone know a handy way to short albums  alphabetically by artist
name ignoring the "The" and "a" and "an" article or the first name of
artist without altering the name itself ?

The obvious solution is in the database use another field to input the
artist name in desired format for shorting.
But the problem still is how to get CDJ to use that field / (index).

Any suggestion ?
(If I remember correctly, in "customize header" there was no way to
include any additional text fields)

Is there any hidden gems of CDJ that I'm unaware of that allow to use
alternative index on database ?

michael (A)


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