From postmaster@mssm.com Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:30:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:30:28 -0500 From: NTMail postmaster@mssm.com Subject: [slinkelist] Failed mail: exceeded hop count This is a MIME-encapsulated message --==_17302867301590@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This mail message has exceeded the maximum number of hops. --==_17302867301590@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The requested destination was: michael.sullivan@mssm.com --==_17302867301590@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The message headers and first 50 body lines follow: --==_17302867301590@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from [127.0.0.1] by stetson.mssm.com (NTMail 5.06.0014/NT7245.00.f9bcbea6) with ESMTP id yjcaaaaa for michael.sullivan@mssm.com; 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boundary="10.10.10.1.38.24011.965050243.294.6454" To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Sender: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com Errors-To: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.0rc2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Slink-e discussion and support list X-BeenThere: slinkelist@nirvis.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:30:46 -0700 X-POPServer: mssm.com --10.10.10.1.38.24011.965050243.294.6454 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Masthead (slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #339) Send slinkelist mailing list submissions to slinkelist@nirvis.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to slinkelist-request@nirvis.com You can reach the person managing the list at slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of slinkelist digest..." --10.10.10.1.38.24011.965050243.294.6454 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's Topics (10 msgs) Today's Topics: 1. Failed mail: exceeded hop count (NTMail) 2. Track restart problem (Jeff Schaffer) 3. Strange troubles with IR (Jay Pfaffman) 4. CDJ on a network (Simon Mason) 5. RE: Obstinate STR-DE825, CDP-CX220 and optical connections (W. John Guineau) 6. (no subject) (riverwaves) 7. RE: Sony SLV-799HF VCR and SLink-E? (W. John Guineau) 8. Re: Obstinate STR-DE825, CDP-CX220 and optical connections (Ian Cole) 9. PartyGUI mas (keith alexander) 10. Re: New FREE killer application: MP3Streamworks (Brian Atkins) --10.10.10.1.38.24011.965050243.294.6454 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="__--__--" --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "NTMail" To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com" Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:30:19 -0500 Message-Id: <17301974300616@stetson.mssm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="==_17301974300617@stetson.mssm.com==_" Subject: [slinkelist] Failed mail: exceeded hop count This is a MIME-encapsulated message --10.10.10.1.38.24011.965050243.294.6454-- --==_17302867301590@stetson.mssm.com==_-- From pfaffman@relaxpc.com Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:56:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:56:08 -0500 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com Subject: [slinkelist] Strange troubles with IR I don't think that's going to help me as the IR noise seems to be coming from the Slinke. I probably need to do one more test with all receivers unplugged to make sure, but it appears that once my slinke receives any IR it starts squirting it incessantly. Once it's done that, it won't pass even Slink loop tests until the slinke's been power cycled. It looks like I'll need to contact Nirvis on this one. On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:47:49 -0000, "Thomas W. Humphrey" said: > I had a problem similar to this and found that the source was infrared noise > beng produced by one of my cheaper TV's, going into the remote IR receiver > and bombarding the slnike with garbage IR. I solved the problem by simply > moving the remote IR receiver away from the front of the TV where the IR > noise was created. > Hope this helps. > Tom Humphrey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Pfaffman" > To: "SlinkE List" > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 6:57 PM > Subject: [slinkelist] Strange troubles with IR >> I suspect that this is a hardware problem, but it could prove useful >> for others on the list. >> >> My slinke's been working fine for a couple years now (or is it >> three?). A couple days ago it started acting up. I haven't >> completely diagnosed it but it looks like the first time IR signals >> are retransmitted (I've got receivers in several rooms and a single >> transmitter in my wiring closet) it just keeps squirting out IR until >> I power-cycle the slinke (this is evidenced by the light staying >> orange and no components being able to receive IR signals while in >> view of the IR transmitter). >> >> Having CDJ send IR signals seems to work fine (until I've tried to >> have it retransmit, though I haven't triple-checked this hypothesis), >> but I can no longer control my components the system via IR. THE >> HORROR! >> >> Could I have misconfigured something (I have edited my map file >> recently) or is it likely that either the transmitter or the slinke is >> broken in some way? Is there some double-secret reset I can or should >> do? >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com >> +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) >> http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ >> Please note new email address! I am relax.com no more. >> >> -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ Please note new email address! I am relax.com no more. From theMack@mackpad.com Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:47:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:47:20 -0700 From: The Mack theMack@mackpad.com Subject: [slinkelist] CD binder that also fits BACK covers Has anyone out there looked for and found a CD binder that also fits the slightly larger back covers of CD liner notes? Because the back covers usually list the song titles on them, I would like to keep these in addition to the CD's liner notes. From Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:51:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:51:33 -0700 From: Hoen, Dave Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Subject: [slinkelist] Track restart problem I'm having a very similar problem with the latest version of CDJ. I didn't notice this with previous versions. (I don't recall which version I used before this latest) My problem doesn't sound quite as serious as Jeff's, however. For me, it will only restart the track once, then play the track all the way through. It will do this after every five tracks or so. Occasionally it will not restart the track, but move on to a new track. Did Colby build in some artificial intelligence? It is as if it is doing a little pre-screening of the song and if it likes it, it goes ahead and plays it and if not, it gets tossed. It's kind of cute. Like Jeff, this seems to start happening after about an hour of flawless playing, and the only way to clear it is to stop and restart CDJ. I have two players (220 and 260 I recall), on separate s-link's. Random playlist. I have my random playlist que up 20 tracks in advance (in case I want to use Mini-Disk manager). I've wondered if the hour delay before failing has something to do with the playlist que, but haven't had time to experiment. I haven't determined if it is always happening on one player rather than the other. Dave Hoen Jeff Schaffer wrote: > Dear Nirvis, > > I'm having a problem. Usually within an hour after starting CDJ, > Tracks played from player 1 (a CDP-CX270) of 3 have a problem. They > play for 3-10 seconds then start over. They continue doing this until > I manually stop CDJ or the player. > > I started with a ThinkPad 366MHz and then took an old Toshiba > Sattelite Pro P75, reformatted the hard disk, did a fresh install of > Win98SE and CDJ, and it still happens. > > HELP! > > Jeff > > PS: I originally submitted this to slinkelist, but forgot to send it > to help@nirvis.com, so this is a resend. > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:16:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:16:58 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] CD binder that also fits BACK covers On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:47:20 -0700, you wrote: >Has anyone out there looked for and found a CD binder that also fits the >slightly larger back covers of CD liner notes? > >Because the back covers usually list the song titles on them, I would = like >to keep these in addition to the CD's liner notes. Here's what I've done ... not a perfect solution, but not bad. I'm using Caselogic's 128/256 binders. Each binder has 256 slots. I put both a = booklet & a back cover insert in each slot. I do not fold the insert; I simply = let it stick out. This works pretty well. Sometimes the sticking out insert = blocks the slot # label I've put on the outside of the slot above. Also, I have= to be careful that when pulling a booklet in the top row that I don't also pull= the insert from the slot on the opposite side of the page. The other issue = is simply being careful when zipping up the binder. I really searched long & hard for a better, reasonably priced solution = ... if the solution is out there, it's well hidden! BTW, Sony said they will be selling their 100 CD binders, but they were = back ordered for over a month. I did not want to wait ... but also, this was = going to require MANY binders, which would be inconvenient ... & they would be expensive. (BTW, the Caselogic binders cost something like $40 each, mailordered from J&R.) If you come up with a better solution, I'd love to hear about it! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From weed@lexmark.com Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:18:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Weed weed@lexmark.com Subject: [slinkelist] CD binder that also fits BACK covers > If you come up with a better solution, I'd love to hear about it! Are you aware of Univenture's graphic binder pages? These are specifically designed for CD booklet inserts, but the back covers may fit. I have not bought these from Univenture, but am pleased with their multiple disk sleeves. http://www.univenture.com - Steve Weed From jdwhitaker@jps.net Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:03:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:03:51 -0700 From: JD Whitaker jdwhitaker@jps.net Subject: [slinkelist] EZ Learn parameters Listers, After spending hours looking thru the archives, I hope I've earned the right to ask an obvious question. What do the parameters in the .cde file mean? I have several IR interfaces not listed in the device file and find that some that are listed seem to be a little off target. I have a digital o'scope and can cleanly capture a complete IR waveform at nanosecond resolution. How do I derive the device parameters from what I see on the o'scope? -=JD=- From saleh@yahoo.com Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:28:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:28:26 -0500 From: Saleh W. Igal saleh@yahoo.com Subject: [slinkelist] CD binder that also fits BACK covers I originally thought of binders, but about 15% of my collection is made up of CD singles (with odd-size liners) and CDs packaged in non-jewelbox cases (e.g. paper packages...) I found some plastic storage boxes with inside dimensions of about 6" X 6" X 10". I have one of these for each CD changer, and put the booklets/liners in the same order as they are in the changer. They are just big enough to accommodate about 180 booklets/liners plus a dozen paper CD cases. They also accommodate the liners for CD singles in the thin cases. I bought mine at Big Lots for $0.88 each, but I've seen some at Target that are nicer for $5. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of The Mack Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:47 pm To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CD binder that also fits BACK covers Has anyone out there looked for and found a CD binder that also fits the slightly larger back covers of CD liner notes? Because the back covers usually list the song titles on them, I would like to keep these in addition to the CD's liner notes. _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From postmaster@mssm.com Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:15:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:15:08 -0500 From: NTMail postmaster@mssm.com Subject: [slinkelist] Failed mail: exceeded hop count This is a MIME-encapsulated message --==_18150860402740@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This mail message has exceeded the maximum number of hops. --==_18150860402740@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The requested destination was: michael.sullivan@mssm.com --==_18150860402740@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The message headers and first 50 body lines follow: --==_18150860402740@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from [127.0.0.1] by stetson.mssm.com (NTMail 5.06.0014/NT7245.00.f9bcbea6) with ESMTP id hieaaaaa for michael.sullivan@mssm.com; 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boundary="10.10.10.1.38.19413.965138511.761.32371" To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Sender: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com Errors-To: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.0rc2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Slink-e discussion and support list X-BeenThere: slinkelist@nirvis.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:12:05 -0700 X-POPServer: mssm.com --10.10.10.1.38.19413.965138511.761.32371 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Masthead (slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #340) Send slinkelist mailing list submissions to slinkelist@nirvis.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to slinkelist-request@nirvis.com You can reach the person managing the list at slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of slinkelist digest..." --10.10.10.1.38.19413.965138511.761.32371 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's Topics (11 msgs) Today's Topics: 1. Cover Art (Larry Laurel) 2. RE: CDJ on a network (Igal, Saleh) 3. Re: Strange troubles with IR (Thomas W. Humphrey) 4. RE: Cover Art (Christian Schnidrig) 5. RE: Cover Art (Christian Schnidrig) 6. Failed mail: exceeded hop count (NTMail) 7. Re: Strange troubles with IR (Jay Pfaffman) 8. CD binder that also fits BACK covers (The Mack) 9. Re: Track restart problem (Hoen, Dave) 10. Re: CD binder that also fits BACK covers (David Morgenlender) 11. Re: CD binder that also fits BACK covers (Steve Weed) --10.10.10.1.38.19413.965138511.761.32371 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="__--__--" --__--__-- Message: 1 Reply-To: From: "Larry Laurel" To: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:43:41 -0400 Message-ID: <002601bffb06$1a5f6c20$3602a8c0@llaurel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" --10.10.10.1.38.19413.965138511.761.32371-- --==_18150860402740@stetson.mssm.com==_-- From simon@themasons.net Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:56:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:56:17 -0400 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech to slink-e connector I post this message every couple of months hoping for a positive answer. Any word on a convertor to connect the slink-e IR to a Xantech network? From MrGolden@swbell.net Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:39:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:39:47 -0500 From: Tony Golden MrGolden@swbell.net Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech to slink-e connector You *should* be able to connect the Slink-e's IR output directly to a Xantech network's input. I've never actually tried it, though, so if someone knows better, please correct me. Connecting the Xantech's output to the Slink-e's input, however, is described here: http://www.nirvis.com/xantech.htm Tony Golden ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Mason To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 7:56 PM Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech to slink-e connector > I post this message every couple of months hoping for a positive answer. > Any word on a convertor to connect the slink-e IR to a Xantech network? From andre.nijhuis@tnt-lb.com Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:32:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:32:06 +0200 From: Andre Nijhuis andre.nijhuis@tnt-lb.com Subject: [slinkelist] Track restart problem Hello Dave I did have the same problem also with the newest CDJ version (occassional repetition of tracks). I had CDJ programmed to overlap the tracks for 1 second, while changing from one track to another. When I changed this to NO overlap (0 sec.) the problem of repetition disappaered completely. Maybe this could help to overcome your problem too? Regards, Andre - Message: 9 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:51:33 -0700 From: "Hoen, Dave" Organization: Emulex Corporation To: Jeff Schaffer CC: help@nirvis.com, slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Track restart problem I'm having a very similar problem with the latest version of CDJ. I didn't notice this with previous versions. (I don't recall which version I used before this latest) My problem doesn't sound quite as serious as Jeff's, however. For me, it will only restart the track once, then play the track all the way through. It will do this after every five tracks or so. Occasionally it will not restart the track, but move on to a new track. Did Colby build in some artificial intelligence? It is as if it is doing a little pre-screening of the song and if it likes it, it goes ahead and plays it and if not, it gets tossed. It's kind of cute. Like Jeff, this seems to start happening after about an hour of flawless playing, and the only way to clear it is to stop and restart CDJ. I have two players (220 and 260 I recall), on separate s-link's. Random playlist. I have my random playlist que up 20 tracks in advance (in case I want to use Mini-Disk manager). I've wondered if the hour delay before failing has something to do with the playlist que, but haven't had time to experiment. I haven't determined if it is always happening on one player rather than the other. Dave Hoen Jeff Schaffer wrote: > Dear Nirvis, > > I'm having a problem. Usually within an hour after starting CDJ, > Tracks played from player 1 (a CDP-CX270) of 3 have a problem. They > play for 3-10 seconds then start over. They continue doing this until > I manually stop CDJ or the player. > > I started with a ThinkPad 366MHz and then took an old Toshiba > Sattelite Pro P75, reformatted the hard disk, did a fresh install of > Win98SE and CDJ, and it still happens. > > HELP! > > Jeff > > PS: I originally submitted this to slinkelist, but forgot to send it > to help@nirvis.com, so this is a resend. > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From postmaster@mssm.com Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:30:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:30:18 -0500 From: NTMail postmaster@mssm.com Subject: [slinkelist] Failed mail: exceeded hop count This is a MIME-encapsulated message --==_17301814203643@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This mail message has exceeded the maximum number of hops. --==_17301814203643@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; 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EZ Learn parameters (JD Whitaker) 2. RE: CD binder that also fits BACK covers (Saleh W. Igal) 3. Failed mail: exceeded hop count (NTMail) 4. Xantech to slink-e connector (Simon Mason) 5. Re: Xantech to slink-e connector (Tony Golden) 6. Track restart problem (Andre Nijhuis) --10.10.10.1.38.13155.965223254.283.30956 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="__--__--" --__--__-- Message: 1 Message-ID: <000a01bffd5c$09dc14e0$201d77d8@pavilion> From: "JD Whitaker" To: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:03:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [slinkelist] EZ Learn parameters Listers, After spending hours looking thru the archives, I hope I've earned the right --10.10.10.1.38.13155.965223254.283.30956-- --==_17301814203643@stetson.mssm.com==_-- From postmaster@mssm.com Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:30:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:30:02 -0500 From: NTMail postmaster@mssm.com Subject: [slinkelist] Failed mail: exceeded hop count This is a MIME-encapsulated message --==_17300207605342@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This mail message has exceeded the maximum number of hops. --==_17300207605342@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; 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Failed mail: exceeded hop count (NTMail) --10.10.10.1.38.1075.965309461.836.25788 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="__--__--" --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "NTMail" To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:30:18 -0500 Message-Id: <17301814203642@stetson.mssm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="==_17301814203643@stetson.mssm.com==_" Subject: [slinkelist] Failed mail: exceeded hop count This is a MIME-encapsulated message --==_17301814203643@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This mail message has exceeded the maximum number of hops. --10.10.10.1.38.1075.965309461.836.25788-- --==_17300207605342@stetson.mssm.com==_-- From THarris@leasedirect.com Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:05:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:05:17 -0400 From: Harris, Terry THarris@leasedirect.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? A little off topic - but who better to ask than a bunch of enthusiasts? I have a Sony CDP-CX300 that I have attached to a high-end receiver (Denon 5700) via an optical digital connection. I read in Sensible Sound last night that it is best to use the DAC in the CD player because there would be no jitter issues (the article was about DAC separates). Thus, they seem to recommend that you use the analog outputs. However, the Denon has those really nice Burr-Brown DACs... Opinions? Also, How does the DXS deal with the jitter/clocking issues? (When I get another CD jukebox) ********************************************************************** The information transmitted via this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ********************************************************************** From pmod@email.com Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:15:53 -0400 (EDT) From: pmod@email.com pmod@email.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Harris, Terry wrote: > I have a Sony CDP-CX300 that I have attached to a high-end receiver (Denon > 5700) via an optical digital connection. I read in Sensible Sound last night > that it is best to use the DAC in the CD player because there would be no > jitter issues (the article was about DAC separates). Thus, they seem to boo, only if your DAC in the denon doesn't reclock very well. the intracacies of jitter are many, it is definitely real and it has an audible impact. > recommend that you use the analog outputs. However, the Denon has those > really nice Burr-Brown DACs... Opinions? Have you experimented? You should use whichever one sounds best, but one thing is for sure -- regardless of jitter introduction by using the toslink, the burrbrown dacs are going to sound waaaaaaay better than whatever is in the sony. my advice would be to /definitely/ use the outboard dac in the denon. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peter M. O'Donnell } pmod@email.com { "If you are going to AU Student -- Unix Guru {=========================} walk on thin ice, you "Clickity-Clickity" } 800-200-8643 { might as well dance!" From weed@lexmark.com Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:49:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Weed weed@lexmark.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? Terry - I have a 5600. In any mode other than direct 2 channel stereo, the digital stream is buffered inside the Denon, so jitter is not an issue. Data may be buffered even in direct 2 channel mode; I am not sure. By buffering, I mean that data is fed into FIFO memory, then read out by another clock. The FIFO is required because any signal processing in the Denon incurs some delay, so the audio must also be delayed so that the (delayed) modifications can be applied to the data for which it was intended. On my Denons, (5600 and AVP-8000), there is a substantial delay any time the digital input is interrupted. Part of that delay is for the Denon to decide what decoding is applicable, the rest is to 'prime' the FIFOs. [De]Jitter boxes are no longer popular, because newer equipment incorporate SPDIF input receivers that are much more robust to jitter than chips of 5 years ago, even without subsequent buffering. Consider that the optical connection eliminates a possible ground loop. With the CDP-CX300 paused and volume up, put your ear close to the speaker with the analog connection, then digital. The Denon has nice shielding and a good ground plane, so is less likely to hum or buzz than many other setups, particularly those with separate power amps. If you live in an area of frequent lightning, optical connections reduce the possibility of surge damage. If you switch the Denon between analog and TOSlink inputs and do not prefer the analog, use the digital; I concluded that all my digital music sources sound better when the Denons get the inputs digitally. Anyone, feel free to correct/clarify errors/omissions in the above. - Steve Weed From THarris@leasedirect.com Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:54:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:54:26 -0400 From: Harris, Terry THarris@leasedirect.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? Thanks for the response. What does jitter sound like? -----Original Message----- From: pmod@email.com [mailto:pmod@email.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 3:16 PM To: Harris, Terry Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Harris, Terry wrote: > I have a Sony CDP-CX300 that I have attached to a high-end receiver (Denon > 5700) via an optical digital connection. I read in Sensible Sound last night > that it is best to use the DAC in the CD player because there would be no > jitter issues (the article was about DAC separates). Thus, they seem to boo, only if your DAC in the denon doesn't reclock very well. the intracacies of jitter are many, it is definitely real and it has an audible impact. > recommend that you use the analog outputs. However, the Denon has those > really nice Burr-Brown DACs... Opinions? Have you experimented? You should use whichever one sounds best, but one thing is for sure -- regardless of jitter introduction by using the toslink, the burrbrown dacs are going to sound waaaaaaay better than whatever is in the sony. my advice would be to /definitely/ use the outboard dac in the denon. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ Peter M. 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If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ********************************************************************** From jason@hitesman.com Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:57:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:57:06 -0700 From: Jason Hitesman jason@hitesman.com Subject: Jitter Was: [Re: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out?] "Harris, Terry" wrote: > > Thanks for the response. > What does jitter sound like? > While I'm no expert on digital audio, and deffinatly not an audiophile I do have an extensive set of bookmarks to people who are. I think I may have actually gotten this link off this list about a year ago. But regardless here it is, the best info on Jitter that I've found: http://www.digido.com/jitteressay.html ---- Jason Hitesman jason@hitesman.com http://www.hitesman.com/jason From AndyStein@aol.com Fri, 4 Aug 2000 02:24:00 EDT Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 02:24:00 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? How would you recommend setting up a system with Sony CDP-CX 90ES, 255, 235, 270, and 225 CD changers and a Yamaha RX-V995 receiver? I had heard that the 90ES offers a better D/A converter but that the RX-V995 might have a better D/A converter than the other changers. Later, the same people who said the 90ES has a better D/A converter said that, overall, using one form of connection (optical or analog) over the other would provide a negligible improvement in sound. Other factors, such as speaker wire, they told me, would make a far more noticeable difference. Any opinions? When my new CDP-CX235 arrives, I will have to connect an additional changer to an analog input on my receiver. So far, I have connected only the 90ES to an analog input; the other changers attach optically. I don't know whether the 270, which once occupied the high end of non-ES changers, would have a better D/A converter than the 235 or whether the 235's higher signal-to-noise ratio would commend it for an analog slot. Andrew In a message dated 8/3/00 12:54:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, weed@lexmark.com writes: << Terry - I have a 5600. In any mode other than direct 2 channel stereo, the digital stream is buffered inside the Denon, so jitter is not an issue. Data may be buffered even in direct 2 channel mode; I am not sure. By buffering, I mean that data is fed into FIFO memory, then read out by another clock. The FIFO is required because any signal processing in the Denon incurs some delay, so the audio must also be delayed so that the (delayed) modifications can be applied to the data for which it was intended. On my Denons, (5600 and AVP-8000), there is a substantial delay any time the digital input is interrupted. Part of that delay is for the Denon to decide what decoding is applicable, the rest is to 'prime' the FIFOs. [De]Jitter boxes are no longer popular, because newer equipment incorporate SPDIF input receivers that are much more robust to jitter than chips of 5 years ago, even without subsequent buffering. Consider that the optical connection eliminates a possible ground loop. With the CDP-CX300 paused and volume up, put your ear close to the speaker with the analog connection, then digital. The Denon has nice shielding and a good ground plane, so is less likely to hum or buzz than many other setups, particularly those with separate power amps. If you live in an area of frequent lightning, optical connections reduce the possibility of surge damage. If you switch the Denon between analog and TOSlink inputs and do not prefer the analog, use the digital; I concluded that all my digital music sources sound better when the Denons get the inputs digitally. Anyone, feel free to correct/clarify errors/omissions in the above. - Steve Weed >> From caeschlimann@com4u.ch Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:58:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:58:07 +0200 From: Christoph Aeschlimann caeschlimann@com4u.ch Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 hi all has anyone a solution for my little problem. i just ordered a mp3 player for my car with a huge disk to store thousands of songs. i also have thousands of songs in my sony cx-350 cd-changers. is there now a easy way of getting the songs from the changers to the computer (optical cable) and convert them automatically to mp3? thanks for any comment chris From michael@laserle.fi Fri, 04 Aug 2000 14:35:29 +0300 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 14:35:29 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 there has been talk about project to make application to do just that but... It the basic rule of IT world : "those who have the skills to do it, do not have time and those who have time..." and then there is ones like me : who do not have time to find out find out if they could do it. ;) When there was talk about that project in this list, it came into conclusion that it should be divided to different areas for people with expertese in that area : 1. Digital Signal prosessing = capturing audio stream from soundcard. 2. compressing it to mp3. 3. interfacing with CDJ to CDDBID of currently playing CD 4. fileoperation to save the files in desired format (naming+path) 4. database operation to retrieve data of matching CDDBID 5. composing & writing ID3 tag to mp3 file each one of these steps would be work enough for single person... plus you'dd would need to co-ordinate between all those people. Christoph Aeschlimann wrote: > > hi all > > has anyone a solution for my little problem. > i just ordered a mp3 player for my car with a huge disk to store thousands > of songs. i also have thousands of songs in my sony cx-350 cd-changers. is > there now a easy way of getting the songs from the changers to the computer > (optical cable) and convert them automatically to mp3? > > thanks for any comment > chris > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| -------------------------------------------------------------------- From frtoledo@uol.com.br Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:03:33 -0300 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:03:33 -0300 From: Francisco Antonio de Toledo frtoledo@uol.com.br Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 "is there now a easy way of getting the songs from the changers to the computer (optical cable) and convert them automatically to mp3?" Creative (sound blaster) sells a optical connector to be used with sound blaster live! boards. Look at their web page, www.creative.com. As to converting automatically to MP3, there are thousands of different softwares in the market for you to choose from. Francisco Toledo. From frtoledo@uol.com.br Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:10:38 -0300 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:10:38 -0300 From: Francisco Antonio de Toledo frtoledo@uol.com.br Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 But one thing is sure: when you capture digital audio from a CD player you are limited to a 1x speed, that is, a CD with 48 minutes of music will take 48 minutes to transfer to your computer hard disk. Your best option is to put the CD in your computer drive and use a good CD ripper. For instance, I have a hitachi DVD (it was bundled with the creative dvd encore 6x) and a software that ripps the CDs at 12x (that means the same 48 minutes CD would take 4 minutes to transfer) and has the ability to convert the PCM file to MP3 on the fly. This conversion takes a lot of CPU work, so the speed is degraded in inverse proportion to your CPU speed. Francisco Toledo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Holopainen" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 > there has been talk about project to make application to do just that > but... > > It the basic rule of IT world : > "those who have the skills to do it, do not have time and those who have > time..." > > and then there is ones like me : who do not have time to find out find > out if they could do it. ;) > > When there was talk about that project in this list, it came into > conclusion that it should be divided to different areas for people with > expertese in that area : > 1. Digital Signal prosessing = capturing audio stream from soundcard. > 2. compressing it to mp3. > 3. interfacing with CDJ to CDDBID of currently playing CD > 4. fileoperation to save the files in desired format (naming+path) > 4. database operation to retrieve data of matching CDDBID > 5. composing & writing ID3 tag to mp3 file > > each one of these steps would be work enough for single person... > plus you'dd would need to co-ordinate between all those people. > > > Christoph Aeschlimann wrote: > > > > hi all > > > > has anyone a solution for my little problem. > > i just ordered a mp3 player for my car with a huge disk to store thousands > > of songs. i also have thousands of songs in my sony cx-350 cd-changers. is > > there now a easy way of getting the songs from the changers to the computer > > (optical cable) and convert them automatically to mp3? > > > > thanks for any comment > > chris > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > -- > --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | > | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | > | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From weed@lexmark.com Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:30:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Weed weed@lexmark.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? > How would you recommend setting up a system with Sony CDP-CX 90ES, 255, > 235, 270, and 225 CD changers and a Yamaha RX-V995 receiver? I have no experience with that Yamaha, but since this is the slinkelist, have you considered the DXS? Jitter was really more a problem for early separate D-A products that had neither buffering nor particularly sophisticated clock extraction. Early enthusiasts who were sufficiently unhappy with the quantizing artifacts, filtering and/or other analog output limitations of CD players were presumably satisfied with some improvement, then could try for even more by adding other boxes for jitter reduction. I feed the digital output of my CDP-CX300 to a Lexicon MC-1 and its analog output distributed via a headphone amp to systems in other rooms, including a Denon 5600. There is nothing particularly wrong with the CDP-CX300 analog output, but the Lexicon redigitizes all inputs, so avoiding two conversions is an easy choice. Some of the music modes on my older Yamaha surround processor were very nice; digital inputs should work better if you ever exploit those on your RX-V995. The fellow who previously owned my Denon also had a 90ES. Because he paid the ES premium for it, he uses its analog output. He moved on to a Lexicon DC-2 and Sonic Frontier Power 3 tube amplifiers. I felt the 90ES digitial link to the Lexicon sounded better without question, while the Denon was a tossup between digital and analog, but my friend always chose the analog link. On the other hand, he has played electric guitar loudly and for a long time, and I suspect that he favors a somewhat compressed dynamic range. With your 5, going on 6, CD changers, I would if possible suggest TOSlink for all, to minimize ground loop problems. At the other extreme, the probability of at least one marginal RCA ground out of 24 is too high for a pessimist. My cheap recommendation is to modify Sony TOSlink outputs to disable them when not playing, then use the Radio Shack optical splicers to double up on inputs. This works not so good with the Denon, because it has such a long delay when recapturing digital lock, but you already presumably experience some delay when switching inputs on the RX-V995. I have modified out-of-production Audio Alchemy dejitter boxes to switch between two TOSlink signals, but they are not smart enough to distinguish whether an unmodified Sony changer is playing or simply powered on. Sony and MSB have TOSlink switchers with which I have no experience. I understand that the MSB is equally dumb and uncontrollable, and the SBD30 appears to only switch manually. You could integrate Slinke with X10 to power off changers not playing, if you are willing to live with the restriction of not immediately switching from one Sony to another on the same Yamaha input. On a slightly different topic, allow me to disagree with some of http://www.digido.com/jitteressay.html ... in particular the seeming suggestion to reducing jitter by going through multiple D-A and A-D conversions. The bad effects of jitter are manifested when converting the digital signal to analog, and once that has been done, any jitter artifacts are there and will continue to be part of the signal when it is re-digitized. On the other hand, it is certain that a digital copy can have less jitter than an original, and the copy can be digitally perfect unless the jitter is so bad that the data is misclocked (unlikely and detectible). Uncorrected jitter typically causes a D-A to generate high frequency artifacts in the resulting analog signal. In many cases, these will be above the frequency response of the rest of the system, so will not be directly heard. However, through the magic of intermodulation distortion and heterodyning, side effects can be audible. Since there are different kinds of jitter and ways for the artifacts to be manifested, there is no single 'sound of jitter'. If you have access to a digital recording of pure single frequencies (sine waves), some jitter artifacts can be more easily heard on some systems. Unfortunately, jitter artifacts can sound like quantizing artifacts. If you believe in blind testing, then focus on sibilants and listen for an irritating 'edge' on stringed instruments. If I can hear realistic 'spits' and 'blats' from good recordings of brass and woodwinds without having shimmer and sheen of cymbals and brushes dissolve into pink noise, then I stop worrying about jitter and start enjoying the music. - Steve Weed From postmaster@mssm.com Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:30:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:30:14 -0500 From: NTMail postmaster@mssm.com Subject: [slinkelist] Failed mail: exceeded hop count This is a MIME-encapsulated message --==_17301440106734@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This mail message has exceeded the maximum number of hops. --==_17301440106734@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The requested destination was: michael.sullivan@mssm.com --==_17301440106734@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The message headers and first 50 body lines follow: --==_17301440106734@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from [127.0.0.1] by stetson.mssm.com (NTMail 5.06.0014/NT7245.00.f9bcbea6) with ESMTP id lglaaaaa for michael.sullivan@mssm.com; 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Failed mail: exceeded hop count (NTMail) 2. Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? (Harris, Terry) 3. Re: Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? (pmod@email.com) 4. Re: Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? (Steve Weed) 5. RE: Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? (Harris, Terry) 6. Jitter Was: [Re: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out?] (Jason Hitesman) 7. Re: Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? (andystein@aol.com) 8. converting cd's to mp3 (Christoph Aeschlimann) 9. Re: converting cd's to mp3 (Michael Holopainen) 10. Re: converting cd's to mp3 (Francisco Antonio de Toledo) 11. Re: converting cd's to mp3 (Francisco Antonio de Toledo) --10.10.10.1.38.6972.965395836.368.30875 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="__--__--" --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "NTMail" To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com" Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:30:02 -0500 Message-Id: <17300207605341@stetson.mssm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="==_17300207605342@stetson.mssm.com==_" Subject: [slinkelist] Failed mail: exceeded hop count --10.10.10.1.38.6972.965395836.368.30875-- --==_17301440106734@stetson.mssm.com==_-- From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Fri, 4 Aug 2000 23:26:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 23:26:57 -0000 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 This is a long term pet project for me, so let me put in my 2 cents. First, the CD-ROM player is definitely the way to make the MP3's. It is way faster and way easier than trying to play the CD audio into the sound card, capture it with a WAV recorder, then convert to MP3. Sure, you have to pull the disks out of the changer, but you can do three each day or whatever is comfortable, and soon enough you will have MP3's for your entire collection. The programming effort to make MP3 ripping automatic using CDJ and the changers, is truly overwhelming. An added benefit is that if you use Real Jukebox or another widely used MP3 ripper, you will have built-in support for moving MP3's to portable players. You can also migrate your MP3 database from one computer to another or use MP3's over a networked configuration if you have one, with Real Jukebox support.. Real Jukebox is not as good an environment as CDJ for actually playing music. CDJ's graphics, lyrics, music ratings, notes, etc. put Real Jukebox to shame, IMHO. However, I do like the idea of usnig MP3's from the computer rather than CD's in a changer to play music. Ultimately, I want to use CDJ with MP3's and get rid of the changers. Then I can use the CD's for playback in the car where I still have a CD player, or in my bedroom where I have a standalone CD player. To move from CD's to MP3's, requires setting up "audio file albums" for the MP3's made from each CD, and then moving over the graphic, lyric, and other information from the existing CD library entry to the new audio file album and audio file entries for the MP3's. Manually, this would be a big job. However, I see no reason it can't be automated. If you use Real Jukebox to do the ripping and have it connect to CDDB to get disk and track names, Real Jukebox will save the MP3 files under file names includnig the disk and track names. This means you could then write a small VB application to access the CDJ library database and the directory with the MP3's, and for every MP3 file on disk that is not already identified in the CDJ database, create an audio file album and audio file entry. Then use the album and track titles found in the MP3 file name, to find the existing CDJ library entry for the CD and track. Then the graphic and other information for the CD and track could be copied over to the MP3 audio file entry and audio file album entry. The CD entry can be left in the library, or deleted, depending upon whether the CD would be used again in connection with CDJ or just shelved for use elsewhere. This process could quickly register all of the MP3's into CDJ. Basically, you would rip a few (or lots of) CD's to build up your RealJukebox database, and when you feel like adding all the new MP3's to CDJ, just run one program and voila!, the ripped MP3's are now in CDJ just like the CD's were. Once all of your disks are out of the changer, you can sell off your changers and relieve some space in your rack system for something else! If anyone likes this idea, and/or wants to participate in its implementation, let me know. From zeke@Exchange.Microsoft.com Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:41:21 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:41:21 -0700 From: Zeke Koch zeke@Exchange.Microsoft.com Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFEB0.8CABA9C4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I already have a system that does almost all of this. I happen to be persisting my information in a different DB (Exchange 2000), but I could retrofit it to use Colby's Access MDB's if you want. Does anyone know how Colby generates the new cdjids? Does it matter at all for MP3s or should I just generate a random (unique) number... -=3DZeke -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W. Humphrey [mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:27 PM To: Francisco Antonio de Toledo; Michael@laserle.fi; caeschlimann@com4u.ch Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 This is a long term pet project for me, so let me put in my 2 cents. First, the CD-ROM player is definitely the way to make the MP3's. It is way faster and way easier than trying to play the CD audio into the sound card, capture it with a WAV recorder, then convert to MP3. Sure, you have to pull the disks out of the changer, but you can do three each day or whatever is comfortable, and soon enough you will have MP3's for your entire collection. The programming effort to make MP3 ripping automatic using CDJ and the changers, is truly overwhelming. An added benefit is that if you use Real Jukebox or another widely used MP3 ripper, you will have built-in support for moving MP3's to portable players. You can also migrate your MP3 database from one computer to another or use MP3's over a networked configuration if you have one, with Real Jukebox support.. Real Jukebox is not as good an environment as CDJ for actually playing music. CDJ's graphics, lyrics, music ratings, notes, etc. put Real Jukebox to shame, IMHO. However, I do like the idea of usnig MP3's from the computer rather than CD's in a changer to play music. Ultimately, I want to use CDJ with MP3's and get rid of the changers. Then I can use the CD's for playback in the car where I still have a CD player, or in my bedroom where I have a standalone CD player. To move from CD's to MP3's, requires setting up "audio file albums" for the MP3's made from each CD, and then moving over the graphic, lyric, and other information from the existing CD library entry to the new audio file album and audio file entries for the MP3's. Manually, this would be a big job. However, I see no reason it can't be automated. If you use Real Jukebox to do the ripping and have it connect to CDDB to get disk and track names, Real Jukebox will save the MP3 files under file names includnig the disk and track names. This means you could then write a small VB application to access the CDJ library database and the directory with the MP3's, and for every MP3 file on disk that is not already identified in the CDJ database, create an audio file album and audio file entry. Then use the album and track titles found in the MP3 file name, to find the existing CDJ library entry for the CD and track. Then the graphic and other information for the CD and track could be copied over to the MP3 audio file entry and audio file album entry. The CD entry can be left in the library, or deleted, depending upon whether the CD would be used again in connection with CDJ or just shelved for use elsewhere. This process could quickly register all of the MP3's into CDJ. Basically, you would rip a few (or lots of) CD's to build up your RealJukebox database, and when you feel like adding all the new MP3's to CDJ, just run one program and voila!, the ripped MP3's are now in CDJ just like the CD's were. Once all of your disks are out of the changer, you can sell off your changers and relieve some space in your rack system for something else! If anyone likes this idea, and/or wants to participate in its implementation, let me know. _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFEB0.8CABA9C4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3

I already have a system that does almost all of this. = I happen to be persisting my information in a different DB (Exchange = 2000), but I could retrofit it to use Colby's Access MDB's if you = want.  Does anyone know how Colby generates the new cdjids?  = Does it matter at all for MP3s or should I just generate a random = (unique) number...

-=3DZeke

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W. Humphrey [mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:27 PM
To: Francisco Antonio de Toledo; Michael@laserle.fi; = caeschlimann@com4u.ch
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to = mp3

This is a long term pet project for me, so let me put = in my 2 cents.

First, the CD-ROM player is definitely the way to make = the MP3's.  It is way
faster and way easier than trying to play the CD = audio into the sound card,
capture it with a WAV recorder, then convert to = MP3.  Sure, you have to pull
the disks out of the changer, but you can do three = each day or whatever is
comfortable, and soon enough you will have MP3's for = your entire collection.
The programming effort to make MP3 ripping automatic = using CDJ and the
changers, is truly overwhelming.

An added benefit is that if you use Real Jukebox or = another widely used MP3
ripper, you will have built-in support for moving = MP3's to portable players.
You can also migrate your MP3 database from one = computer to another or use
MP3's over a networked configuration if you have one, = with Real Jukebox
support..

Real Jukebox is not as good an environment as CDJ for = actually playing
music.  CDJ's graphics, lyrics, music ratings, = notes, etc. put Real Jukebox
to shame, IMHO.  However, I do like the idea of = usnig MP3's from the
computer rather than CD's in a changer to play = music.  Ultimately, I want to
use CDJ with MP3's and get rid of the changers.  = Then I can use the CD's for
playback in the car where I still have a CD player, = or in my bedroom where I
have a standalone CD player.

To move from CD's to MP3's, requires setting up = "audio file albums" for the
MP3's made from each CD, and then moving over the = graphic, lyric, and other
information from the existing CD library entry to the = new audio file album
and audio file entries for the MP3's.  Manually, = this would be a big job.
However, I see no reason it can't be = automated.

If you use Real Jukebox to do the ripping and have it = connect to CDDB to get
disk and track names, Real Jukebox will save the MP3 = files under file names
includnig the disk and track names.  This means = you could then write a small
VB application to access the CDJ library database and = the directory with the
MP3's, and for every MP3 file on disk that is not = already identified in the
CDJ database, create an audio file album and audio = file entry.  Then use the
album and track titles found in the MP3 file name, to = find the existing CDJ
library entry for the CD and track.  Then the = graphic and other information
for the CD and track could be copied over to the MP3 = audio file entry and
audio file album entry.  The CD entry can be = left in the library, or
deleted, depending upon whether the CD would be used = again in connection
with CDJ or just shelved for use elsewhere.

This process could quickly register all of the MP3's = into CDJ.  Basically,
you would rip a few (or lots of) CD's to build up = your RealJukebox database,
and when you feel like adding all the new MP3's to = CDJ, just run one program
and voila!, the ripped MP3's are now in CDJ just like = the CD's were.

Once all of your disks are out of the changer, you can = sell off your
changers and relieve some space in your rack system = for something else!

If anyone likes this idea, and/or wants to participate = in its
implementation, let me know.



_______________________________________________
slinkelist maillist  -  = slinkelist@nirvis.com
http://www.nir= vis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist

------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFEB0.8CABA9C4-- From parkdog@ix.netcom.com Sat, 05 Aug 2000 06:28:49 -0500 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 06:28:49 -0500 From: Marc Parker parkdog@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 Tom, I think your idea is great. I have been considering moving my CD collection (6 200 disc changers) to MP3, but the idea seemed daunting. I am prepared to manually rip each disc, but relating them back to the graphics and database stuff is another issue. Unfortunately, I am not a programmer, but would love to help in any way I might. Let me know. Parker From digitech1@adelphia.net Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:10:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:10:08 -0400 From: Danny Wilcox digitech1@adelphia.net Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? (Steve Weed) how do you modify Sony TOSlink outputs to disable them when not playing From: Steve Weed Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:30:19 -0400 (EDT) To: slinkelist@nirvis.com, AndyStein@aol.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? My cheap recommendation is to modify Sony TOSlink outputs to disable them when not playing, then use the Radio Shack optical splicers to double up on inputs. From heemin@avnsl.mit.edu Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:40:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:40:26 -0400 From: Heemin Yang heemin@avnsl.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] MD manager not working properly This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFF04.3D6F30F4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was wondering if anybody else is having problems with MD manager and the latest CDJ, ver 1.32. MD manager refuses to recognize a new track when using CDJ Playlist recorder. I've had problems before, esp after the new database format was introduced by CDJ. For example, it would not pause recording properly while CDJ was changing cd's if the playlist contained multiple cd's. Now, in addition to the latter problem, MD manager, with the latest version of CDJ, cannot even recognize a new track on the playlist, i.e., the entire playlist is recorded as a single track by MD manager. Any help would be appreciated. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFF04.3D6F30F4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" [slinkelist] MD manager not working properly

I was wondering if anybody else
is having problems with MD manager and
the latest CDJ, ver 1.32.
MD manager refuses to recognize a new
track when using CDJ Playlist recorder.
I've had problems before, esp after
the new database format was introduced
by CDJ. For example, it would not pause recording
properly while CDJ was changing cd's
if the playlist contained multiple cd's.
Now, in addition to the latter problem,
MD manager, with the latest version of CDJ,
cannot even recognize a new track on the playlist,
i.e., the entire playlist is recorded as a single
track by MD manager.
Any help would be appreciated.

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFF04.3D6F30F4-- From dhermann@chesco.com Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:30:33 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:30:33 -0400 From: dan herrmann dhermann@chesco.com Subject: [slinkelist] Digital vs. Analog to Denon-AVR5700 Definitely use the toslink/digital output. The DACs in the Denon are wonderful and much better than those found in the Sony CD player. From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:49:28 -0000 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:49:28 -0000 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BFFF2F.699FF660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3I don't know how Colby does the = CDJ ID's but I can't imagine that it matters for MP3's since as I = understand it the point of the ID is to have a quick reference to = identify a disk if it moves from one slot in the changer to another, = which of course is irrelevant for an MP3. I would suggest you log in a = few MP3's the old fashioned way and see what ID's they get, if any. You = probably can leave the field blank. Does your existing software already search for existing information in = the database using album and track names from the MP3 file name, and = copy over other data fields? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Zeke Koch=20 To: Thomas W. Humphrey ; Francisco Antonio de Toledo ; = Michael@laserle.fi ; caeschlimann@com4u.ch=20 Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 7:41 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 I already have a system that does almost all of this. I happen to be = persisting my information in a different DB (Exchange 2000), but I could = retrofit it to use Colby's Access MDB's if you want. Does anyone know = how Colby generates the new cdjids? Does it matter at all for MP3s or = should I just generate a random (unique) number... -=3DZeke=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Thomas W. Humphrey [mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net]=20 Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:27 PM=20 To: Francisco Antonio de Toledo; Michael@laserle.fi; = caeschlimann@com4u.ch=20 Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20 Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3=20 This is a long term pet project for me, so let me put in my 2 cents.=20 First, the CD-ROM player is definitely the way to make the MP3's. It = is way=20 faster and way easier than trying to play the CD audio into the sound = card,=20 capture it with a WAV recorder, then convert to MP3. Sure, you have = to pull=20 the disks out of the changer, but you can do three each day or = whatever is=20 comfortable, and soon enough you will have MP3's for your entire = collection.=20 The programming effort to make MP3 ripping automatic using CDJ and the = changers, is truly overwhelming.=20 An added benefit is that if you use Real Jukebox or another widely = used MP3=20 ripper, you will have built-in support for moving MP3's to portable = players.=20 You can also migrate your MP3 database from one computer to another or = use=20 MP3's over a networked configuration if you have one, with Real = Jukebox=20 support..=20 Real Jukebox is not as good an environment as CDJ for actually playing = music. CDJ's graphics, lyrics, music ratings, notes, etc. put Real = Jukebox=20 to shame, IMHO. However, I do like the idea of usnig MP3's from the=20 computer rather than CD's in a changer to play music. Ultimately, I = want to=20 use CDJ with MP3's and get rid of the changers. Then I can use the = CD's for=20 playback in the car where I still have a CD player, or in my bedroom = where I=20 have a standalone CD player.=20 To move from CD's to MP3's, requires setting up "audio file albums" = for the=20 MP3's made from each CD, and then moving over the graphic, lyric, and = other=20 information from the existing CD library entry to the new audio file = album=20 and audio file entries for the MP3's. Manually, this would be a big = job.=20 However, I see no reason it can't be automated.=20 If you use Real Jukebox to do the ripping and have it connect to CDDB = to get=20 disk and track names, Real Jukebox will save the MP3 files under file = names=20 includnig the disk and track names. This means you could then write a = small=20 VB application to access the CDJ library database and the directory = with the=20 MP3's, and for every MP3 file on disk that is not already identified = in the=20 CDJ database, create an audio file album and audio file entry. Then = use the=20 album and track titles found in the MP3 file name, to find the = existing CDJ=20 library entry for the CD and track. Then the graphic and other = information=20 for the CD and track could be copied over to the MP3 audio file entry = and=20 audio file album entry. The CD entry can be left in the library, or=20 deleted, depending upon whether the CD would be used again in = connection=20 with CDJ or just shelved for use elsewhere.=20 This process could quickly register all of the MP3's into CDJ. = Basically,=20 you would rip a few (or lots of) CD's to build up your RealJukebox = database,=20 and when you feel like adding all the new MP3's to CDJ, just run one = program=20 and voila!, the ripped MP3's are now in CDJ just like the CD's were.=20 Once all of your disks are out of the changer, you can sell off your=20 changers and relieve some space in your rack system for something = else!=20 If anyone likes this idea, and/or wants to participate in its=20 implementation, let me know.=20 _______________________________________________=20 slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com=20 http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BFFF2F.699FF660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3
I don't know how Colby does the CDJ = ID's but I=20 can't imagine that it matters for MP3's since as I understand it the = point of=20 the ID is to have a quick reference to identify a disk if it moves from = one slot=20 in the changer to another, which of course is irrelevant for an = MP3.  I=20 would suggest you log in a few MP3's the old fashioned way and see what = ID's=20 they get, if any.  You probably can leave the field = blank.
 
Does your existing software already = search for=20 existing information in the database using album and track names from = the MP3=20 file name, and copy over other data fields?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Zeke Koch
To: Thomas W.=20 Humphrey ; Francisco Antonio de Toledo ; Michael@laserle.fi ; caeschlimann@com4u.ch
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 = 7:41=20 AM
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] = converting cd's=20 to mp3

I already have a system that does almost all of = this. I happen=20 to be persisting my information in a different DB (Exchange 2000), but = I could=20 retrofit it to use Colby's Access MDB's if you want.  Does anyone = know=20 how Colby generates the new cdjids?  Does it matter at all for = MP3s or=20 should I just generate a random (unique) number...

-=3DZeke

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 Thomas W. Humphrey [mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net]=20
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:27 PM =
To: Francisco Antonio de Toledo; Michael@laserle.fi; caeschlimann@com4u.ch =
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com =
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3

This is a long term pet project for me, so let me = put in my 2=20 cents.

First, the CD-ROM player is definitely the way to = make the=20 MP3's.  It is way
faster and way easier = than=20 trying to play the CD audio into the sound card,
capture it with a WAV recorder, then convert to MP3.  = Sure, you=20 have to pull
the disks out of the changer, = but you can=20 do three each day or whatever is
comfortable, and soon=20 enough you will have MP3's for your entire collection. =
The programming effort to make MP3 ripping automatic using = CDJ and=20 the
changers, is truly overwhelming. =

An added benefit is that if you use Real Jukebox or = another=20 widely used MP3
ripper, you will have = built-in support=20 for moving MP3's to portable players.
You = can also=20 migrate your MP3 database from one computer to another or use =
MP3's over a networked configuration if you have one, with = Real=20 Jukebox
support..

Real Jukebox is not as good an environment as CDJ = for actually=20 playing
music.  CDJ's graphics, lyrics, = music=20 ratings, notes, etc. put Real Jukebox
to = shame,=20 IMHO.  However, I do like the idea of usnig MP3's from the =
computer rather than CD's in a changer to play = music. =20 Ultimately, I want to
use CDJ with MP3's and = get rid=20 of the changers.  Then I can use the CD's for
playback in the car where I still have a CD player, or in my = bedroom=20 where I
have a standalone CD player. =

To move from CD's to MP3's, requires setting up = "audio file=20 albums" for the
MP3's made from each CD, and = then=20 moving over the graphic, lyric, and other
information=20 from the existing CD library entry to the new audio file album=20
and audio file entries for the MP3's.  = Manually, this=20 would be a big job.
However, I see no reason = it can't=20 be automated.

If you use Real Jukebox to do the ripping and have = it connect=20 to CDDB to get
disk and track names, Real = Jukebox will=20 save the MP3 files under file names
includnig the disk=20 and track names.  This means you could then write a small=20
VB application to access the CDJ library database = and the=20 directory with the
MP3's, and for every MP3 = file on=20 disk that is not already identified in the
CDJ=20 database, create an audio file album and audio file entry.  Then = use=20 the
album and track titles found in the MP3 = file name,=20 to find the existing CDJ
library entry for = the CD and=20 track.  Then the graphic and other information
for the CD and track could be copied over to the MP3 audio = file entry=20 and
audio file album entry.  The CD = entry can be=20 left in the library, or
deleted, depending = upon=20 whether the CD would be used again in connection
with=20 CDJ or just shelved for use elsewhere.

This process could quickly register all of the MP3's = into=20 CDJ.  Basically,
you would rip a few = (or lots of)=20 CD's to build up your RealJukebox database,
and when=20 you feel like adding all the new MP3's to CDJ, just run one = program=20
and voila!, the ripped MP3's are now in CDJ just = like the=20 CD's were.

Once all of your disks are out of the changer, you = can sell=20 off your
changers and relieve some space in = your rack=20 system for something else!

If anyone likes this idea, and/or wants to = participate in=20 its
implementation, let me know. =



_______________________________________________=20
slinkelist maillist  - =20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
http://www.nir= vis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist=20

------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BFFF2F.699FF660-- From riverwaves7@hotmail.com Sat, 05 Aug 2000 22:21:29 CDT Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 22:21:29 CDT From: Dokiy and Luke Stubblefield riverwaves7@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Dear Slinklist, Please remove us from your Slinklist mailing list. We are getting many duplicates and far too much response. Riverwaves ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From zeke@Exchange.Microsoft.com Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:40:08 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:40:08 -0700 From: Zeke Koch zeke@Exchange.Microsoft.com Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFF60.65EE7394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After some quick playing around with it things seem slightly more complicated that I would think. CDJ uses the CDJID to link between the tracks and albums tables so they do matter. There's a bunch of other things that you have to get right (in addition to getting the track count for the albums correct the total album length and such seems to matter). I'd love it if I could just add the album and tracks with a consistent cdjid and have CDJ figure the rest out. =20 =20 There's some odd logic in the display code. For example the Album table has data in it like the number of tracks (which of course you could get by just doing a query of the tracks table with tracks.cdjid =3D album.cdjid). But CDJ seems to just the track number to actually determine the number of tracks to look for in the tracks table. So if you reduce the number of tracks in the Albums row then the last track seems to drop out of the UI. =20 To really do this, I think that I'll need some help from Nirvis (or someone). Basically I just need to know exactly I need to do to add an mp3 'album' programmatically. I could probably hack around it, but other things are distracting me right now. =20 I haven't tried your suggestion of blowing away the current albums and reusing the rows. That might work better, but I actually like playing CD's when I'm on my main computer (the CD's often seem to sound better even when I rip my mp3's at VBR maxed out). =20 Right now I'm getting the track info from the mp3's ID3 tags (which come from CDDB when MMJB rips them), but I don't know how to get the track length yet (I haven't needed to figure that out for my other project) and CDJ seems to need them (unfortunately). I'm currently working on some software (tangled in with that) to augment that with more info (and yes covers) from www.allmusic.com so that I can build a prettier front end for CDJ on a wince device. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) things are rather busy at work these days so I don't have a lot of time to spend on this project.=20 =20 -Zeke =20 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W. Humphrey [mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 3:49 PM To: Zeke Koch Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 =20 I don't know how Colby does the CDJ ID's but I can't imagine that it matters for MP3's since as I understand it the point of the ID is to have a quick reference to identify a disk if it moves from one slot in the changer to another, which of course is irrelevant for an MP3. I would suggest you log in a few MP3's the old fashioned way and see what ID's they get, if any. You probably can leave the field blank. =20 Does your existing software already search for existing information in the database using album and track names from the MP3 file name, and copy over other data fields? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Zeke Koch=20 To: Thomas W. Humphrey ; Francisco Antonio de Toledo ; Michael@laserle.fi ; caeschlimann@com4u.ch =20 Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com =20 Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 7:41 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 =20 I already have a system that does almost all of this. I happen to be persisting my information in a different DB (Exchange 2000), but I could retrofit it to use Colby's Access MDB's if you want. Does anyone know how Colby generates the new cdjids? Does it matter at all for MP3s or should I just generate a random (unique) number... -=3DZeke=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Thomas W. Humphrey [ mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net ]=20 Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:27 PM=20 To: Francisco Antonio de Toledo; Michael@laserle.fi ; caeschlimann@com4u.ch =20 Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com =20 Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3=20 This is a long term pet project for me, so let me put in my 2 cents.=20 First, the CD-ROM player is definitely the way to make the MP3's. It is way=20 faster and way easier than trying to play the CD audio into the sound card,=20 capture it with a WAV recorder, then convert to MP3. Sure, you have to pull=20 the disks out of the changer, but you can do three each day or whatever is=20 comfortable, and soon enough you will have MP3's for your entire collection.=20 The programming effort to make MP3 ripping automatic using CDJ and the=20 changers, is truly overwhelming.=20 An added benefit is that if you use Real Jukebox or another widely used MP3=20 ripper, you will have built-in support for moving MP3's to portable players.=20 You can also migrate your MP3 database from one computer to another or use=20 MP3's over a networked configuration if you have one, with Real Jukebox=20 support..=20 Real Jukebox is not as good an environment as CDJ for actually playing=20 music. CDJ's graphics, lyrics, music ratings, notes, etc. put Real Jukebox=20 to shame, IMHO. However, I do like the idea of usnig MP3's from the=20 computer rather than CD's in a changer to play music. Ultimately, I want to=20 use CDJ with MP3's and get rid of the changers. Then I can use the CD's for=20 playback in the car where I still have a CD player, or in my bedroom where I=20 have a standalone CD player.=20 To move from CD's to MP3's, requires setting up "audio file albums" for the=20 MP3's made from each CD, and then moving over the graphic, lyric, and other=20 information from the existing CD library entry to the new audio file album=20 and audio file entries for the MP3's. Manually, this would be a big job.=20 However, I see no reason it can't be automated.=20 If you use Real Jukebox to do the ripping and have it connect to CDDB to get=20 disk and track names, Real Jukebox will save the MP3 files under file names=20 includnig the disk and track names. This means you could then write a small=20 VB application to access the CDJ library database and the directory with the=20 MP3's, and for every MP3 file on disk that is not already identified in the=20 CDJ database, create an audio file album and audio file entry. Then use the=20 album and track titles found in the MP3 file name, to find the existing CDJ=20 library entry for the CD and track. Then the graphic and other information=20 for the CD and track could be copied over to the MP3 audio file entry and=20 audio file album entry. The CD entry can be left in the library, or=20 deleted, depending upon whether the CD would be used again in connection with CDJ or just shelved for use elsewhere.=20 This process could quickly register all of the MP3's into CDJ. Basically,=20 you would rip a few (or lots of) CD's to build up your RealJukebox database,=20 and when you feel like adding all the new MP3's to CDJ, just run one program=20 and voila!, the ripped MP3's are now in CDJ just like the CD's were.=20 Once all of your disks are out of the changer, you can sell off your=20 changers and relieve some space in your rack system for something else!=20 If anyone likes this idea, and/or wants to participate in its=20 implementation, let me know.=20 =20 _______________________________________________=20 slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com=20 http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFF60.65EE7394 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3

After some quick playing around with it = things seem slightly more complicated that I would think.  CDJ uses the CDJID to link between the tracks and = albums tables so they do matter.  = There’s a bunch of other things that you have to get right (in addition to = getting the track count for the albums correct the total album length and such seems = to matter).  I’d love = it if I could just add the album and tracks with a consistent cdjid and have CDJ figure the = rest out.  =

 

There’s some odd logic in the display = code.  For example the Album table = has data in it like the number of tracks (which of course you could get by just = doing a query of the tracks table with tracks.cdjid =3D album.cdjid).  But CDJ seems to just the = track number to actually determine the number of tracks to look for in the tracks table.  So if you reduce = the number of tracks in the Albums row then the last track seems to drop out of the = UI.

 

To really do this, I think that I’ll = need some help from Nirvis (or someone).  Basically I just need to know exactly I need to do to add an mp3 = ‘album’ programmatically.  I could = probably hack around it, but other things are distracting me right = now.

 

I haven’t tried your suggestion of = blowing away the current albums and reusing the rows.  That might work better, but I actually like playing CD’s = when I’m on my main computer (the CD’s often seem to sound better even when I rip = my mp3’s at VBR maxed out).

 

Right now I’m getting the track info = from the mp3’s ID3 tags (which come from CDDB when MMJB rips them), but I don’t = know how to get the track length yet (I haven’t needed to figure that out for = my other project) and CDJ seems to need them (unfortunately).  I’m currently working on some software (tangled = in with that) to augment that with more info (and yes covers) from www.allmusic.com so that I can = build a prettier front end for CDJ on a wince device.  Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) things are = rather busy at work these days so I don’t have a lot of time to spend on = this project.

 

-Zeke

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W. Humphrey [mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net]
Sent: Saturday, August = 05, 2000 3:49 PM
To: Zeke Koch
Cc: = slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3

 

I don't know how Colby does the CDJ ID's but I can't imagine that it matters for = MP3's since as I understand it the point of the ID is to have a quick = reference to identify a disk if it moves from one slot in the changer to another, = which of course is irrelevant for an MP3.  I would suggest you log in a few = MP3's the old fashioned way and see what ID's they get, if any.  You = probably can leave the field blank.<= /p>

 <= /p>

Does your existing software already search for existing information in the = database using album and track names from the MP3 file name, and copy over other = data fields?

----- Original Message -----

From: Zeke Koch

=

To: Thomas W. Humphrey ; Francisco Antonio de Toledo ; Michael@laserle.fi ; caeschlimann@com4u.ch

Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com

Sent: Saturday, = August 05, 2000 7:41 AM

Subject: RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3

 <= /p>

I already have a system that does almost all of this. I happen to be = persisting my information in a different DB (Exchange 2000), but I could retrofit = it to use Colby's Access MDB's if you want.  Does anyone know how Colby generates the new cdjids?  Does it matter at all for MP3s or should = I just generate a random (unique) number...<= /p>

-=3DZeke <= /p>

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W. Humphrey [mailto:TWHumphrey@fuse.net]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:27 PM
To: Francisco Antonio de Toledo; Michael@laserle.fi; caeschlimann@com4u.ch
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] converting cd's to = mp3 <= /p>

This is a long term pet project for me, so let me put in my 2 = cents. <= /p>

First, the CD-ROM player is definitely the way to make the MP3's.  It is = way
faster and way easier than trying to play the CD audio into = the sound card,
capture it with a WAV recorder, then convert to MP3.  = Sure, you have to pull
the disks out of the changer, but you can do three each day = or whatever is
comfortable, and soon enough you will have MP3's for your = entire collection.
The programming effort to make MP3 ripping automatic using = CDJ and the
changers, is truly overwhelming.

An = added benefit is that if you use Real Jukebox or another widely used = MP3
ripper, you will have built-in support for moving MP3's to portable players.
You can also migrate your MP3 database from one computer to another or use
MP3's over a networked configuration if you have one, with = Real Jukebox =
support.. <= /p>

Real Jukebox is not as good an environment as CDJ for actually = playing
music.  CDJ's graphics, lyrics, music ratings, notes, = etc. put Real Jukebox
to shame, IMHO.  However, I do like the idea of usnig = MP3's from the =
computer rather than CD's in a changer to play music.  Ultimately, I want to
use CDJ with MP3's and get rid of the changers.  Then = I can use the CD's for
playback in the car where I still have a CD player, or in = my bedroom where I
have a standalone CD player.

To = move from CD's to MP3's, requires setting up "audio file albums" for = the
MP3's made from each CD, and then moving over the graphic, = lyric, and other =
information from the existing CD library entry to the new = audio file album =
and audio file entries for the MP3's.  Manually, this = would be a big job.
However, I see no reason it can't be = automated. <= /p>

If = you use Real Jukebox to do the ripping and have it connect to CDDB to = get
disk and track names, Real Jukebox will save the MP3 files = under file names =
includnig the disk and track names.  This means you = could then write a small
VB application to access the CDJ library database and the directory with the
MP3's, and for every MP3 file on disk that is not already identified in the
CDJ database, create an audio file album and audio file entry.  Then use the
album and track titles found in the MP3 file name, to find = the existing CDJ
library entry for the CD and track.  Then the graphic = and other information
for the CD and track could be copied over to the MP3 audio = file entry and =
audio file album entry.  The CD entry can be left in = the library, or
deleted, depending upon whether the CD would be used again = in connection =
with CDJ or just shelved for use = elsewhere. <= /p>

This process could quickly register all of the MP3's into CDJ.  = Basically,
you would rip a few (or lots of) CD's to build up your = RealJukebox database, =
and when you feel like adding all the new MP3's to CDJ, = just run one program
and voila!, the ripped MP3's are now in CDJ just like the = CD's were. = <= /p>

Once all of your disks are out of the changer, you can sell off = your
changers and relieve some space in your rack system for = something else! = <= /p>

If = anyone likes this idea, and/or wants to participate in its
implementation, let me know.

 <= /p>

__________________________________= _____________
slinkelist maillist  -  = slinkelist@nirvis.com
http://www.nir= vis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist <= /p>

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Re: Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? (Steve Weed) (Danny Wilcox) 2. MD manager not working properly (Heemin Yang) 3. Digital vs. Analog to Denon-AVR5700 (dan herrmann) 4. Re: converting cd's to mp3 (Thomas W. Humphrey) 5. (no subject) (Dokiy and Luke Stubblefield) 6. RE: converting cd's to mp3 (Zeke Koch) --10.10.10.1.38.31444.965536851.946.9932 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="__--__--" --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Danny Wilcox" To: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:10:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Sony CDP-CX300 Digital of Analog Out? (Steve Weed) how do you modify Sony TOSlink outputs to disable --10.10.10.1.38.31444.965536851.946.9932-- --==_09000315807332@stetson.mssm.com==_-- From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Sun, 6 Aug 2000 07:52:36 -0400 Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 07:52:36 -0400 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009A_01BFFF7B.497DBA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3Zeke, some thoughts: As to the CDJID, why not just make two audio file albums of two MP3's = each and see what ID's they get assigned? Whatever the pattern is, I'm = sure it will be obvious and you can replicate it for the other MP3's. = I'll do this experiment on my end when I have a moment. As to track lengths, wouldn't the existing data for the CD have this so = you could just copy it over? Tom. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Zeke Koch=20 To: Thomas W. Humphrey=20 Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20 Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 12:40 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] converting cd's to mp3 After some quick playing around with it things seem slightly more = complicated that I would think. CDJ uses the CDJID to link between the = tracks and albums tables so they do matter. There's a bunch of other = things that you have to get right (in addition to getting the track = count for the albums correct the total album length and such seems to = matter). I'd love it if I could just add the album and tracks with a = consistent cdjid and have CDJ figure the rest out. =20 =20 There's some odd logic in the display code. For example the Album = table has data in it like the number of tracks (which of course you = could get by just doing a query of the tracks table with tracks.cdjid = =3D album.cdjid). But CDJ seems to just the track number to actually = determine the number of tracks to look for in the tracks table. So if = you reduce the number of tracks in the Albums row then the last track = seems to drop out of the UI. =20 To really do this, I think that I'll need some help from Nirvis (or = someone). Basically I just need to know exactly I need to do to add an = mp3 'album' programmatically. I could probably hack around it, but = other things are distracting me right now. =20 I haven't tried your suggestion of blowing away the current albums and = reusing the rows. That might work better, but I actually like playing = CD's when I'm on my main computer (the CD's often seem to sound better = even when I rip my mp3's at VBR maxed out). =20 Right now I'm getting the track info from the mp3's ID3 tags (which = come from CDDB when MMJB rips them), but I don't know how to get the = track length yet (I haven't needed to figure that out for my other = project) and CDJ seems to need them (unfortunately). I'm currently = working on some software (tangled in with that) to augment that with = more info (and yes covers) from www.allmusic.com so that I can build a = prettier front end for CDJ on a wince device. Unfortunately (or perhaps = fortunately) things are rather busy at work these days so I don't have a = lot of time to spend on this project.=20 =20 -Zeke ------=_NextPart_000_009A_01BFFF7B.497DBA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [slinkelist] = converting cd's to mp3
Zeke, some thoughts:
 
As to the CDJID, why not just make two audio file = albums of=20 two MP3's each and see what ID's they get assigned?  Whatever the = pattern=20 is, I'm sure it will be obvious and you can replicate it for the other=20 MP3's.  I'll do this experiment on my end when I have a=20 moment.
 
As to track lengths, wouldn't the existing data for = the CD=20 have this so you could just copy it over?
 
Tom.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Zeke Koch
To: Thomas W.=20 Humphrey
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 = 12:40=20 AM
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] = converting cd's=20 to mp3

After=20 some quick playing around with it things seem slightly more = complicated that I=20 would think.  CDJ uses = the CDJID=20 to link between the tracks and albums tables so they do matter.  There’s a bunch of = other things that=20 you have to get right (in addition to getting the track count for the = albums=20 correct the total album length and such seems to matter).  I’d love it if I could = just add the=20 album and tracks with a consistent cdjid and have CDJ figure the rest=20 out. =20

 

There’s=20 some odd logic in the display code. =20 For example the Album table has data in it like the number of = tracks=20 (which of course you could get by just doing a query of the tracks = table with=20 tracks.cdjid =3D album.cdjid).  = But=20 CDJ seems to just the track number to actually determine the number of = tracks=20 to look for in the tracks table. =20 So if you reduce the number of tracks in the Albums row then = the last=20 track seems to drop out of the UI.

 

To=20 really do this, I think that I’ll need some help from Nirvis (or = someone).  Basically I = just need=20 to know exactly I need to do to add an mp3 ‘album’ = programmatically.  I could probably hack around = it, but=20 other things are distracting me right = now.

 

I=20 haven’t tried your suggestion of blowing away the current albums = and reusing=20 the rows.  That might = work better,=20 but I actually like playing CD’s when I’m on my main = computer (the CD’s often=20 seem to sound better even when I rip my mp3’s at VBR maxed=20 out).

 

Right=20 now I’m getting the track info from the mp3’s ID3 tags = (which come from CDDB=20 when MMJB rips them), but I don’t know how to get the track = length yet (I=20 haven’t needed to figure that out for my other project) and CDJ = seems to need=20 them (unfortunately).  = I’m=20 currently working on some software (tangled in with that) to augment = that with=20 more info (and yes covers) from www.allmusic.com so that I can = build a=20 prettier front end for CDJ on a wince device.  Unfortunately (or perhaps = fortunately)=20 things are rather busy at work these days so I don’t have a lot = of time to=20 spend on this project.

 

-Zeke

------=_NextPart_000_009A_01BFFF7B.497DBA60-- From billie@well.com Sun, 6 Aug 2000 08:25:33 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 08:25:33 -0700 From: Billie billie@well.com Subject: [slinkelist] HomeBrew CDs and CDJ I tried this question on the BBS and I'll try again here. I have a lot of sound effects CDs I have created. In the past I have added them to CDJ by having it detect the CD and then hand editing the Access database. This time I have CDs created with CD TEXT. Is there a way to get CDJ to recognize them and add the track names? I checked the checkbox for "use CD TEXT" but nothing seems different. Can anyone suggest an alternate route? Or even an application that can get my track names in a list of some sort I can convert into data to add to the database. Thanks, Billie Cox From imslryan@bestweb.net Sun, 6 Aug 2000 13:44:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 13:44:57 -0400 From: Laurence Ryan imslryan@bestweb.net Subject: [slinkelist] Garbage content: I can't take it any more!!! This message is not sent in haste or petulance, but after 3-4 four months of dedicated attention to the daily mail from slinkelist. I am resigned to the very apparent fact that the world of electronic communications can be viewed as a re-enactment of the social environment of the era of the tower of Babel and that even their multiplicity of tongues was not as complicated by formats, etc., as we seem to be today. However, I am quite sure that I am in no way the only one who feels that a world without the up to 80% or more of garbage resulting from conflicting formats and unnecessarily repeated messages, etc., that accumulates in the "Digest", would be a better world in which there would be more time for productive pursuits. I am in no way referring to the real content.This is always valid, even if not of immediate use for me. I learn every day (humbly). Without the technical knowledge to create a solution, I could only make generalized suggestions and would be happy to do so but, having read through all those messages, I am sure that there are many who receive the list who could immediately comment authoritatively as to what methods might work. May I then simply throw this open for discussion? Regards to all. Larry Ryan From slinke@linuxstuff.org Sun, 6 Aug 2000 22:00:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 22:00:51 -0400 (EDT) From: JAmes Atwill slinke@linuxstuff.org Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Tower of Babel I asked a while ago if perhaps the lists could be split forming a Microsoft-Problem centric list (help my com object doesn't work, cdj is broken, i can't get my serial port working, etc) and a general list (check out this cool new s-linke driven stuff etc), and was flamed quite heavily by all the Microsoft users. Some sent threatening email to me personally calling me a racist idiot. One person mailed me saying something along the lines of "You're just a typical Linux loser who wants everything for themselves without thinking about anyone else".. I tend to not read [slinkelist] mail anymore unless the topic sounds relevant to me. Cheers, JAmes From sdfine@bellatlantic.net Sun, 6 Aug 2000 22:14:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 22:14:11 -0400 From: Steve Fine sdfine@bellatlantic.net Subject: [slinkelist] CDP-CX153 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFFFF3.A60BF300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Sony CDP-CX153 100 CD Changer. I can't seem to get Slin-e and = CDJ to recognize it. It has 2 ports labeled Control A and a Command = Mode switch labeled 1,2,3, Does anyone know anything about this CD = player? Can I use Slink-e Slink to control it? ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFFFF3.A60BF300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a Sony CDP-CX153 100 CD Changer.  I = can't seem to=20 get Slin-e and CDJ to recognize it.  It has 2 ports labeled Control = A and a=20 Command Mode switch labeled 1,2,3,  Does anyone know anything about = this CD=20 player?  Can I use Slink-e Slink to control = it?
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFFFF3.A60BF300-- From shawn@sboyle.com 7 Aug 2000 04:53:23 -0700 Date: 7 Aug 2000 04:53:23 -0700 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Tower of Babel > I tend to not read [slinkelist] mail anymore unless the topic sounds > relevant to me. > > Cheers, > > JAmes Isn't that how mailing lists, usenet, BBSs, etc., are supposed to work? How many separate lists would you want to create? If you had a problem using the Slink-e that was Linux related would you post it to the "check out this cool new s-linke driven stuff" list, or create another list for Linux problems? What about Macs? How about people working on a WinCE or Palm solution...where should they post? And why draw the line at the OS? You could create even more lists by dividing among different types of issues [people who have setup problems and people who are developing new solutions/programs].And what do you think the odds are that a new person would post to the correct list? Obviously the topics that get the most attention on the list are the ones that many people are interested in. If you aren't...don't read them. The solution is really as simple as that. I think the last thing that any of us need is another list to subscribe to. -Shawn On Sun, 06 August 2000, JAmes Atwill wrote: > > > I asked a while ago if perhaps the lists could be split forming a > Microsoft-Problem centric list (help my com object doesn't work, cdj is > broken, i can't get my serial port working, etc) and a general list > (check out this cool new s-linke driven stuff etc), and was flamed quite > heavily by all the Microsoft users. > > Some sent threatening email to me personally calling me a racist idiot. > One person mailed me saying something along the lines of "You're just a > typical Linux loser who wants everything for themselves without thinking > about anyone else".. > > I tend to not read [slinkelist] mail anymore unless the topic sounds > relevant to me. > > Cheers, > > JAmes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________________ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: pager@sboyle.com or 877.WYN.SPAM _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From weed@lexmark.com Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:17:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Weed weed@lexmark.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDP-CX153 > Does anyone know anything about this CD player? I have several 151s, which are even less compatible with newer changers.. > Can I use Slink-e Slink to control it? Yes, at least I can control a 151 with an original slink-e. The key is to use a cross-wired stereo cable. This can be most painlessly accomplished by using two 1/8" stereo-to-RCA cords, swapping left and right at the RCA connections. Colby appended information from Alan Freeman in 1998: - Steve Weed ------------------------ 1998 append from Colby --------------------- Alan Freeman has sent me some useful information regarding some of the older Sony equipment which actually uses control-A: >>> ... in the pamphlet that came with my CDP-CX205, it says, and I quote: =================================================================== Compatibility with the former Control A system: Basically speaking, Control A is not compatible with Control A1. Certain Control A components, however, can be connected to Control A1 components using a special connecting cord. CDP-CX151, not compatible CDP-CX153, can be connected * STR-G3, can be connected * (only for 100-disc CD control. Other functions like Auto-function, will not work) CTRL-300, not compatible *Use the Sony RK-G139HG (1m) monaural mini-plug <--> stereo mini-plug connecting cord or a similar cord (less than 2 meters long). Be sure to connect the STEREO mini-plug to the CONTROL A component and the MON mini-plug to the CONTROL A1 component. <<< It looks like you can use the CDP-CX153 with a mono-stereo cable to connect to the Slink-e (the Slink-e attached to the mono end). From weed@lexmark.com Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:41:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Weed weed@lexmark.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: digital mute Danny - > how do you modify Sony TOSlink outputs to disable > them when not playing You have to go inside and make some electronic modifications. To use optical splicers, power to the TOSlink transmitter must be shut off when not playing. If you are using something like the MSB digital director, it is sufficient to disable the digital signal. If you have access to the schematics, find the mute signal for the analog output, which can be tapped to control the TOSlink. If you are braver and cheaper, you can probably avoid the overhead of paying Sony for a service manual by tapping the Pause and Play LEDs. These are low active on mine; in other words one side of the LEDs is connected to +5V and the other side gets pulled towards ground to light. You want the TOSlink transmitter disabled unless the Play LED is lit and the Pause LED is dark so an NPN transistor can be inserted between the transmitter and ground and a PNP between the transmitter and +5V: pnp npn +5V o----[EBC]---[toslink]----[CBE]---o gnd > | > < spdif < play pause - Steve Weed From dick@titletrack.com Mon, 07 Aug 2000 08:06:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 08:06:56 -0700 From: RiverSong InterActive dick@titletrack.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: CDP-CX153 Steve Fine had asked, > I have a Sony CDP-CX153 100 CD Changer. I can't seem to get Slin-e and = > CDJ to recognize it. It has 2 ports labeled Control A and a Command = > Mode switch labeled 1,2,3, Does anyone know anything about this CD = > player? Can I use Slink-e Slink to control it? > > The CDP-CX153 will work with the Slink-e, but you need to use an adapter, as described by Colby as follows: "The simplest way to do this is to plug a Radio Shack part number 274-375 dual 1/8" mono jack to 1/8" stereo plug adapter into the CD player. Then plug a standard 1/8" mono plug cord [i.e., the one that comes with the Slink-e] into one of the mono jacks and the other end into the Slink-e. Since the two mono jacks on the 274-375 aren't labeled, you'll have to try both of them to discover the correct connection." I seem to recall that some commands won't work, such as fast forward and rewind, but in all other respects it should work OK. Hope that helps. -- Sincerely, Dick Dinkelspiel RiverSong InterActive dick@titletrack.com http://www.titletrack.com From weed@lexmark.com Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:27:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Weed weed@lexmark.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDP-CX153 Steve Fine - Your CDP-CX153 is 'officially' supported, although needing a funky cord. The information you want is at: http://www.nirvis.com/cdj_compat.htm This "Compatibility" page is linked from the CDJ page, and is different from the Slink-e "Compatibility" page; I only found it was a different page by accident... - Steve Weed From postmaster@mssm.com Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:30:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:30:19 -0500 From: NTMail postmaster@mssm.com Subject: [slinkelist] Failed mail: exceeded hop count This is a MIME-encapsulated message --==_17301967008399@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This mail message has exceeded the maximum number of hops. --==_17301967008399@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The requested destination was: michael.sullivan@mssm.com --==_17301967008399@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The message headers and first 50 body lines follow: --==_17301967008399@stetson.mssm.com==_ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from [127.0.0.1] by stetson.mssm.com (NTMail 5.06.0014/NT7245.00.f9bcbea6) with ESMTP id qunaaaaa for michael.sullivan@mssm.com; 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HomeBrew CDs and CDJ (Billie) 2. Garbage content: I can't take it any more!!! (Laurence Ryan) 3. Re: Tower of Babel (JAmes Atwill) 4. CDP-CX153 (Steve Fine) 5. Re: Re: Tower of Babel (shawn@sboyle.com) 6. Re: CDP-CX153 (Steve Weed) --10.10.10.1.38.5158.965655027.016.8977 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="__--__--" --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Billie" To: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 08:25:33 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal Subject: [slinkelist] HomeBrew CDs and CDJ I tried this question on the BBS and I'll try again here. I have a lot of sound effects CDs I have created. In the past I have added --10.10.10.1.38.5158.965655027.016.8977-- --==_17301967008399@stetson.mssm.com==_-- From cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:31:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:31:20 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ version There is a new CDJ version on the site. Colby 8/07/00 Added three disc queuing options in View | Options | Players - Off / Next Disc / Everything Added user defined toolbar buttons - see the help under Advanced techniques for usage Fixed new bug from 8/01 ver which caused crashes on text UL / DL 8/01/00 Critical device files are now stored within the program Double clicking library items now adds them to the playlist in various ways which are configurable in the options. You still have the ability to play items immediately, but they will be placed in the playlist first. The helps make it obvious as to what is playing. Automatic database compaction has been removed by popular demand The slink-e communications logging window has been improved. You can now cut and paste the text from this window. It also has a file logging pushbutton which generates a time stamped log file. There is now a files and directories option tab which contains all of the paths and file locations for libraries, playlists, images, device files, etc. A problem where only two of many library items selected would transfer text has been fixed Double-clicking playlists from Explorer / the Desktop now works properly as well as specifying playlists on the CDJ command line. The lyrics feature has been removed as the server is never up. From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:11:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:11:57 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ version Still showing the 8/1 version on the web page. > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Colby Boles > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 5:31 PM > To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com > Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ version > > > There is a new CDJ version on the site. > > Colby > > 8/07/00 > Added three disc queuing options in View | Options | Players - Off / Next > Disc / Everything > Added user defined toolbar buttons - see the help under Advanced > techniques > for usage > Fixed new bug from 8/01 ver which caused crashes on text UL / DL > > 8/01/00 > Critical device files are now stored within the program > Double clicking library items now adds them to the playlist in > various ways > which are configurable in the options. You still have the ability to play > items immediately, but they will be placed in the playlist first. > The helps > make it obvious as to what is playing. > Automatic database compaction has been removed by popular demand > The slink-e communications logging window has been improved. You > can now cut > and paste the text from this window. It also has a file logging pushbutton > which generates a time stamped log file. > There is now a files and directories option tab which contains all of the > paths and file locations for libraries, playlists, images, device files, > etc. > A problem where only two of many library items selected would > transfer text > has been fixed > Double-clicking playlists from Explorer / the Desktop now works > properly as > well as specifying playlists on the CDJ command line. > The lyrics feature has been removed as the server is never up. > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From AndyStein@aol.com Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:21:41 EDT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:21:41 EDT From: AndyStein@aol.com AndyStein@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ version The latest version I see is 8/1/00. Is it on the main downloads page? Andrew In a message dated 8/7/00 2:36:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU writes: << There is a new CDJ version on the site. Colby 8/07/00 Added three disc queuing options in View | Options | Players - Off / Next Disc / Everything Added user defined toolbar buttons - see the help under Advanced techniques for usage Fixed new bug from 8/01 ver which caused crashes on text UL / DL 8/01/00 Critical device files are now stored within the program Double clicking library items now adds them to the playlist in various ways which are configurable in the options. You still have the ability to play items immediately, but they will be placed in the playlist first. The helps make it obvious as to what is playing. Automatic database compaction has been removed by popular demand The slink-e communications logging window has been improved. You can now cut and paste the text from this window. It also has a file logging pushbutton which generates a time stamped log file. There is now a files and directories option tab which contains all of the paths and file locations for libraries, playlists, images, device files, etc. A problem where only two of many library items selected would transfer text has been fixed Double-clicking playlists from Explorer / the Desktop now works properly as well as specifying playlists on the CDJ command line. The lyrics feature has been removed as the server is never up. >> From bdickhaus@mindspring.com Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:24:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:24:06 -0400 From: Bill Dickhaus bdickhaus@mindspring.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Tower of Babel What amazes me is that anyone would complain in the first place. If there were hundreds of off topic messages a day, I could would complain too. But there are at most six or seven message A DAY average here, and most of them are on topic. If someone can't be bothered to sort through only 30 to 40 messages a week, then they don't belong here. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of shawn@sboyle.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 07:53 To: slinke@linuxstuff.org Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Re: Tower of Babel > I tend to not read [slinkelist] mail anymore unless the topic sounds > relevant to me. > > Cheers, > > JAmes Isn't that how mailing lists, usenet, BBSs, etc., are supposed to work? How many separate lists would you want to create? If you had a problem using the Slink-e that was Linux related would you post it to the "check out this cool new s-linke driven stuff" list, or create another list for Linux problems? What about Macs? How about people working on a WinCE or Palm solution...where should they post? And why draw the line at the OS? You could create even more lists by dividing among different types of issues [people who have setup problems and people who are developing new solutions/programs].And what do you think the odds are that a new person would post to the correct list? Obviously the topics that get the most attention on the list are the ones that many people are interested in. If you aren't...don't read them. The solution is really as simple as that. I think the last thing that any of us need is another list to subscribe to. -Shawn On Sun, 06 August 2000, JAmes Atwill wrote: > > > I asked a while ago if perhaps the lists could be split forming a > Microsoft-Problem centric list (help my com object doesn't work, cdj is > broken, i can't get my serial port working, etc) and a general list > (check out this cool new s-linke driven stuff etc), and was flamed quite > heavily by all the Microsoft users. > > Some sent threatening email to me personally calling me a racist idiot. > One person mailed me saying something along the lines of "You're just a > typical Linux loser who wants everything for themselves without thinking > about anyone else".. > > I tend to not read [slinkelist] mail anymore unless the topic sounds > relevant to me. > > Cheers, > > JAmes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________________ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: pager@sboyle.com or 877.WYN.SPAM _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From slinke@linuxstuff.org Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:38:06 -0400 (EDT) From: slinke@linuxstuff.org slinke@linuxstuff.org Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Tower of Babel (fwd) I've already been battered to death by everyone on this topic. I've apologized to just about everyone for even suggesting it in the first place. As I said the first time around, I wasn't forcing anyone to do anything, I wasn't complaining, I was just suggesting an idea based on the traffic in here for the past few years. But thank you to everyone for the lessons in remedial mailing list skimming. Let's drop it. Sheesh, JAmes PS. No Shawn. Mailing lists aren't supposed to be 60% noise. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:24:06 -0400 From: Bill Dickhaus To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Re: Tower of Babel What amazes me is that anyone would complain in the first place. If there were hundreds of off topic messages a day, I could would complain too. But there are at most six or seven message A DAY average here, and most of them are on topic. If someone can't be bothered to sort through only 30 to 40 messages a week, then they don't belong here. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of shawn@sboyle.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 07:53 To: slinke@linuxstuff.org Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Re: Tower of Babel > I tend to not read [slinkelist] mail anymore unless the topic sounds > relevant to me. > > Cheers, > > JAmes Isn't that how mailing lists, usenet, BBSs, etc., are supposed to work? How many separate lists would you want to create? If you had a problem using the Slink-e that was Linux related would you post it to the "check out this cool new s-linke driven stuff" list, or create another list for Linux problems? What about Macs? How about people working on a WinCE or Palm solution...where should they post? And why draw the line at the OS? You could create even more lists by dividing among different types of issues [people who have setup problems and people who are developing new solutions/programs].And what do you think the odds are that a new person would post to the correct list? Obviously the topics that get the most attention on the list are the ones that many people are interested in. If you aren't...don't read them. The solution is really as simple as that. I think the last thing that any of us need is another list to subscribe to. -Shawn On Sun, 06 August 2000, JAmes Atwill wrote: > > > I asked a while ago if perhaps the lists could be split forming a > Microsoft-Problem centric list (help my com object doesn't work, cdj is > broken, i can't get my serial port working, etc) and a general list > (check out this cool new s-linke driven stuff etc), and was flamed quite > heavily by all the Microsoft users. > > Some sent threatening email to me personally calling me a racist idiot. > One person mailed me saying something along the lines of "You're just a > typical Linux loser who wants everything for themselves without thinking > about anyone else".. > > I tend to not read [slinkelist] mail anymore unless the topic sounds > relevant to me. > > Cheers, > > JAmes > [...] From mypeter@bigfoot.com Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:55:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:55:16 -0700 From: Peter Myers mypeter@bigfoot.com Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ version New version looks great. One thing I've noticed is that the player window does not seem to update player status or playing time (location seems to be accurate). I don't know if it is just my set up or not, but it was working ok before. It is updating the elapsed time in the cdj title bar. If I highlight the player in the player window, it updates status and time once. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colby Boles" To: "Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com" Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 2:31 PM Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ version > There is a new CDJ version on the site. > > Colby > > 8/07/00 > Added three disc queuing options in View | Options | Players - Off / Next > Disc / Everything > Added user defined toolbar buttons - see the help under Advanced techniques > for usage > Fixed new bug from 8/01 ver which caused crashes on text UL / DL > > 8/01/00 > Critical device files are now stored within the program > Double clicking library items now adds them to the playlist in various ways > which are configurable in the options. You still have the ability to play > items immediately, but they will be placed in the playlist first. The helps > make it obvious as to what is playing. > Automatic database compaction has been removed by popular demand > The slink-e communications logging window has been improved. You can now cut > and paste the text from this window. It also has a file logging pushbutton > which generates a time stamped log file. > There is now a files and directories option tab which contains all of the > paths and file locations for libraries, playlists, images, device files, > etc. > A problem where only two of many library items selected would transfer text > has been fixed > Double-clicking playlists from Explorer / the Desktop now works properly as > well as specifying playlists on the CDJ command line. > The lyrics feature has been removed as the server is never up. > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Tue, 8 Aug 2000 07:09:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 07:09:56 -0400 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Converting CD's to MP3's This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C00107.A87DF600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zeke: It seems that no CDJID is assigned when you add an MP3 to CDJ. At least = in the music information box, the location for the CDJID is just left = blank. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C00107.A87DF600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Zeke:
It seems that no CDJID is assigned when you add an = MP3 to=20 CDJ.  At least in the music information box, the location for the = CDJID is=20 just left blank.
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C00107.A87DF600-- From kurt@nv.net Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:51:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:51:01 -0700 From: Kurt Albershardt kurt@nv.net Subject: [slinkelist] parallel port hackery I'm looking for a box (yes, I can build one, but...) that will take the parallel port output from a PC and give me 8 relay (or open-collector) outputs. Anyone aware of any commercially available gizmos? Thanks... From dhouston1@fuse.net Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:05:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:05:52 -0400 From: Dave Houston dhouston1@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] parallel port hackery If you don't mind assembling and soldering a kit, see... http://www.web-tronics.com/webtronics/pcprinporrel.html The price is reasonable and the relays are rated high enough for most uses. On 8 Aug 2000, at 11:51, Kurt Albershardt wrote: > I'm looking for a box (yes, I can build one, but...) that will take > the parallel port output from a PC and give me 8 relay (or > open-collector) outputs. > > Anyone aware of any commercially available gizmos? > > > Thanks... > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist --- Dave Houston http://Commander-X.com From kurt@nv.net Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:17:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:17:59 -0700 From: Kurt Albershardt kurt@nv.net Subject: [slinkelist] parallel port hackery Thanks! I actually found that same page through a search (and the same kit sells for $42-85 at other places...) ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Houston To: Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] parallel port hackery > If you don't mind assembling and soldering a kit, see... > > http://www.web-tronics.com/webtronics/pcprinporrel.html > > The price is reasonable and the relays are rated high enough for most > uses. > > On 8 Aug 2000, at 11:51, Kurt Albershardt wrote: > > > I'm looking for a box (yes, I can build one, but...) that will take > > the parallel port output from a PC and give me 8 relay (or > > open-collector) outputs. > > > > Anyone aware of any commercially available gizmos? > > > > > > Thanks... > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > --- > Dave Houston > http://Commander-X.com > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From brian@posthuman.com Tue, 08 Aug 2000 21:50:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 21:50:58 -0400 From: Brian Atkins brian@posthuman.com Subject: [slinkelist] write out current song/album to file? I'm streaming my playlist live using the shoutcast software.. anyway I need a way to get CDJ to output the current song title to a file that I can then incorporate into a web page. I looked at the event maps docs, but I don't see how to do it (is there some way to use variables in event maps?). From shawn@sboyle.com 8 Aug 2000 19:32:20 -0700 Date: 8 Aug 2000 19:32:20 -0700 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] write out current song/album to file? The best way to do this is with a small VB app, using the Slink-e ActiveX control. First you need to issue the "cdj:notify_playing_item[on]" command via the startup event in you map file. Then CDJ will send a command that looks like this: cdjr:playing["ELLA - (The Very Best of Ella) - Disc One","Ella Fitzgerald","Lullaby of Birdland"," 2:53","C:\Program Files\Nirvis\mypics\ella_thebest.jpg","A700920A71AE1D51","19"] whenever it plays a track [CD or MP3]. The first field is the Disc title, then the artist, track title, track time, cover pic, cdjid, and the track number. Once you have this in your VB app just chop it up and print it to a file. I have a general home automation app that I've written to do this and other things [mostly getting information from the internet]. I you want to take a look at it I can send you the source code. If you're not good with VB it wouldn't be too hard for me to take my code and just make a small .exe for you. Let me know, -Shawn On Tue, 08 August 2000, Brian Atkins wrote: > > I'm streaming my playlist live using the shoutcast software.. anyway I > need a way to get CDJ to output the current song title to a file that I > can then incorporate into a web page. I looked at the event maps docs, but > I don't see how to do it (is there some way to use variables in event > maps?). > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________________ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: pager@sboyle.com or 877.WYN.SPAM _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From gking@ontariodie.com Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:28:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:28:54 -0400 From: Gregg King gking@ontariodie.com Subject: [slinkelist] Playing mp3's from PC to stereo I see on the Nirvis website that CDJ has a built in MP3 player. Has anyone used it? Is it very good or should I look for another? Also, I would like to use whatever MP3 player I settle on to feed my stereo directly. I have a Soundblaster MP3+ card and need to run cable 30 - 40' to the receiver - what is the best way to do this? Any help greatly appreciated! Gregg King From frtoledo@uol.com.br Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:41:41 -0300 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:41:41 -0300 From: Francisco Antonio de Toledo frtoledo@uol.com.br Subject: [slinkelist] Playing mp3's from PC to stereo I believe the best way would be to use a digital signal from your SB live card to a digital input in your amp. An analog connection would bring a lot of noise from the computer to the amp. The only problem I see is the digital connection on SB MP3 card, which I am not sure, but seams to be a proprietary connector (it is neither RCA nor optical), only the live platinum comes with a live! drive with 2 RCA digital connectors for input and output. The board is the same. Francisco. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg King" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: [slinkelist] Playing mp3's from PC to stereo > I see on the Nirvis website that CDJ has a built in MP3 player. Has > anyone used it? Is it very good or should I look for another? > > Also, I would like to use whatever MP3 player I settle on to feed my > stereo directly. I have a Soundblaster MP3+ card and need to run cable 30 > - 40' to the receiver - what is the best way to do this? > > Any help greatly appreciated! > > Gregg King > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From p.hazenberg@cable.a2000.nl Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:38:11 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:38:11 +0200 From: Peter Hazenberg p.hazenberg@cable.a2000.nl Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB lookup problem (error 12029) Hello, I have downloaded the latest version of CDJ just this week. When trying to lookup CD information from the internet I get this error 12029 on al my CD's in the player. The connection seems to be ok. (can surf the web on the machine and the 'button' on CDJ to get to the homepage, also works). Is there someone who can tel me what's going wrong ??? Many thanks in advance Peter From pfaffman@relaxpc.com Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:01:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:01:51 -0500 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB lookup problem (error 12029) I've been having a similar problem when trying to access cddb.com from CDJ. I get the error that says something like "can't connect. It could be a problem with your Internet connection." If I have CDJ get info from freecddb.org rather than cddb.com it works fine. Of course freecddb has many fewer entries. . . On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:38:11 +0200, "Peter Hazenberg" said: > Hello, > I have downloaded the latest version of CDJ just this week. > When trying to lookup CD information from the internet I get this > error 12029 on al my CD's in the player. The connection seems to be > ok. (can surf the web on the machine and the 'button' on CDJ to get to > the homepage, also works). > Is there someone who can tel me what's going wrong ??? > Many thanks in advance > Peter > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ Please note new email address! I am relax.com no more. From sci4all@yahoo.com Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:23:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:23:41 -0700 From: John Shankland sci4all@yahoo.com Subject: Re[2]: [slinkelist] CDDB lookup problem (error 12029) Jay, Friday, August 11, 2000, 10:01:51 AM, you wrote: JP> I've been having a similar problem when trying to access cddb.com from JP> CDJ. I get the error that says something like "can't connect. It JP> could be a problem with your Internet connection." If I have CDJ get JP> info from freecddb.org rather than cddb.com it works fine. Of course JP> freecddb has many fewer entries. . . I haven't had any problems connecting but I wanted to say let's all make a conscience effort to make freecddb have more entries. From now on when I find an entry not in freecddb I'll get it from cddb.com and give it to freecddb. Does CDJ have a way to submit entries. >> _______________________________________________ >> slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >> http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- ©¿©¬ John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From pfaffman@relaxpc.com Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:12:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:12:51 -0500 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB lookup problem (error 12029) On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:23:41 -0700, John Shankland said: > Jay, > Friday, August 11, 2000, 10:01:51 AM, you wrote: JP> I've been having a similar problem when trying to access cddb.com from JP> CDJ. I get the error that says something like "can't connect. It JP> could be a problem with your Internet connection." If I have CDJ get JP> info from freecddb.org rather than cddb.com it works fine. Of course JP> freecddb has many fewer entries. . . > I haven't had any problems connecting but I wanted to say let's all > make a conscience effort to make freecddb have more entries. From now > on when I find an entry not in freecddb I'll get it from cddb.com and > give it to freecddb. That's against CDDB's rules. You really should type it in and then submit it to freecddb. But I'll never tell. :-) > Does CDJ have a way to submit entries? Nope. It can't get quite enough information from the changer to create the correct ID. I suspect it has the correct ID after it's done the CDDB lookup, but harvesting data from CDDB and giving it to CDDB is clearly against CDDB's policies. -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ Please note new email address! I am relax.com no more. From ronhackett@hotmail.com Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:19:32 EDT Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:19:32 EDT From: Ron Hackett ronhackett@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Need help re Audio Mixers Hi all, I have two Sony CDP-CX300 changers that I would like to be able to set up with slinke and use the random (alternating) play mode. I understand that I need an audio mixer to do this, and I have searched the group archives for relevant info. I have two questions: 1. I have sen reference to a schematic on the nirvis web site, but have been unable to find it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? 2. I am not an auiophile by any means, but I also don't want to introduce any audible distortion or degredation into my music. MY question is, are the inexpensive mixers from Radio Shack good enough for the job, or should I be looking elsewhere? If so, where should I look, and how much will I need to spend to retain the quality of the music? (I will not be adding any additional equipment, so a mixer for two stereo sources would be all I need.) Thanks for any help you can provide. Ron ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From frtoledo@uol.com.br Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:39:20 -0300 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:39:20 -0300 From: Francisco Antonio de Toledo frtoledo@uol.com.br Subject: [slinkelist] Need help re Audio Mixers Hi Ron, I have a configuration like yours and use no mixer. You set one player as number 1, the other as number 3, link the two players with a slink cable, and one of the players to a single slink-e bus. As to the audio, connect the player 3 audio output to the player 1 audio input, and the player 1 audio output to your amplifier. For me it works very well, either using CDJ/slink-e alternating players, or using the players stand-alone, without CDJ. This way you can use alternate palyers with no-delay or cross fade mode. Regards, Francisco Toledo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Hackett" To: Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: [slinkelist] Need help re Audio Mixers > Hi all, > > I have two Sony CDP-CX300 changers that I would like to be able to set up > with slinke and use the random (alternating) play mode. I understand that I > need an audio mixer to do this, and I have searched the group archives for > relevant info. > > I have two questions: > > 1. I have sen reference to a schematic on the nirvis web site, but have been > unable to find it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > 2. I am not an auiophile by any means, but I also don't want to introduce > any audible distortion or degredation into my music. MY question is, are > the inexpensive mixers from Radio Shack good enough for the job, or should I > be looking elsewhere? If so, where should I look, and how much will I need > to spend to retain the quality of the music? (I will not be adding any > additional equipment, so a mixer for two stereo sources would be all I > need.) > > Thanks for any help you can provide. > > Ron > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From j.schaffer@snet.net Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:24:49 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:24:49 -0400 From: Jeff Schaffer j.schaffer@snet.net Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX400 vs CDP-CX450 All, Looking at Sony's specs, the only difference between the CX400 and the CX450 is the on-screen display (video out) and the 2-Way LCD remote. Prices through Yahoo shop show the CX400 in the neighborhood of $250 and the CX450 in the neighborhood of $350. Does anyone know of any other advantage to the more expensive changer? I *only* use my changers via CDJ/slinke. In my application, is there any reason to shell out the extra bucks? Thanks for your thoughts, Jeff From mskubisz@mediaone.net Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:46:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:46:15 -0400 From: Mike Skubisz mskubisz@mediaone.net Subject: [slinkelist] Server side MP3 player I am using CDJ in "DCOM mode" and it works great, what I am wondering is if there is any way to have the server machine act as the MP3 player? It appears that only the client end can act as a player. I would like the server to do it as it is the machine connected to my slinke and receiver/amp. Any thoughts? Mike From Mark.Johnson@FirstDoor.com Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:51:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:51:05 -0400 From: Mark Johnson Mark.Johnson@FirstDoor.com Subject: [slinkelist] Duplicate CD Question Was ever a final resolution to the duplicate CD problem? I've searched the email and BBS archives and see the suggestions to burn a new CD or edi the CDJID (not recommended by Nirvis and my CDJID fields are longer than the noted 8 characters). In my collection I have lots of copies of tapes that I haven't bothered to break into individual tracks and seem to get a lot of dupes reported by CDJ. The last batch had at least 8 dupes that I had to reburn to get to work. Unless there is a solution I haven't found, how about a setting for "allow dupe" or something to keep this from happening. Thanks, Mark Johnson From cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:50:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:50:37 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version I've put a new version of CDJ on the site. Colby 8/14/00 Fixed problem playing tracks greater than 10 on CX270/90ES Improved power on/off control of players Added warning when attempting to play MP3s with MP3 player disabled 8/11/00 Improved multitasking of library load at startup Switched to new CDJID system which works with 1 track CDs - backwards compatibility to old playlists is maintained Added off state to player icons in player view Playlist now correctly exits sleep mode when you double-click to play From Tom.Hammond-Doel@Vixel.com Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:40:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:40:18 -0700 From: Tom Hammond-Doel Tom.Hammond-Doel@Vixel.com Subject: [slinkelist] I-Opener So, what's the latest scoop with the I-Opener. Did the manufacturer make them so we can't hack them, now? From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:02:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:02:43 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX400 vs CDP-CX450 On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:24:49 -0400, you wrote: >Looking at Sony's specs, the only difference between the CX400 and=20 >the CX450 is the on-screen display (video out) and the 2-Way LCD=20 >remote. Prices through Yahoo shop show the CX400 in the neighborhood=20 >of $250 and the CX450 in the neighborhood of $350. > >Does anyone know of any other advantage to the more expensive changer? > >I *only* use my changers via CDJ/slinke. In my application, is there=20 >any reason to shell out the extra bucks? > >Thanks for your thoughts, >Jeff I bought the CX450, before I even knew that Slink-e existed, primarily to= get the 2-way remote. Now that I have a Slink-e & CDJ, I really don't have a= need for the fancy remote & on-screen display. I forget all the differences = between the CX400 & CX450. But if these were the only differences, I would go = for the CX400 now, myself. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From satz@iranger.com Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:54:45 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:54:45 -0600 From: Greg Satz satz@iranger.com Subject: [slinkelist] cdj slinke data window lost cursor The last two versions of cdj, 8/xx/00, both lose the cursor in the slinke data window. This results in the window continually flashing but no new data being added. If you click in the blank line at the end of the window, new data will be added there for some period of time. You can tell this is happening because the window cursor no longer appears at the end of the window. It disappears. This is on win98. Greg From michael@laserle.fi Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:16:35 +0300 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:16:35 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX400 vs CDP-CX450 I bought the 350 about one year ago, and too one look at the remote and the 2-(NO)Way remote is still in the original packing bag never been used. I later bought STR-DB930 receiver and that had the 2-Way remote also, and that one I MUST use, after first 10 seconds I felt wanted to throw that remote out of the window, and ever since I have been regretting that I didn't. If I had to choose between 2 otherwise identical models ,I for one would pay more for one WITHOUT the 2-way remote. 'm not sure if the 400 has the "MegaChanger" feature, but that one is quite useless when you have Slinke box & CDJ. Find out if the 400 can also act as "MegaChanger" master (controlling another player), if it can then I see no reason to pay extra for that horrible remote. I though to list all what is wrong with the remote, but it's much easier to list what is not wrong with the remote : . (end of list) -michael (A) David Morgenlender wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:24:49 -0400, you wrote: > > >Looking at Sony's specs, the only difference between the CX400 and > >the CX450 is the on-screen display (video out) and the 2-Way LCD > >remote. Prices through Yahoo shop show the CX400 in the neighborhood > >of $250 and the CX450 in the neighborhood of $350. > > > >Does anyone know of any other advantage to the more expensive changer? > > > >I *only* use my changers via CDJ/slinke. In my application, is there > >any reason to shell out the extra bucks? > > > >Thanks for your thoughts, > >Jeff > > I bought the CX450, before I even knew that Slink-e existed, primarily to get > the 2-way remote. Now that I have a Slink-e & CDJ, I really don't have a need > for the fancy remote & on-screen display. I forget all the differences between > the CX400 & CX450. But if these were the only differences, I would go for the > CX400 now, myself. > > ======================================================= > Dave Morgenlender > e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu > ======================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| -------------------------------------------------------------------- From mljfrank@mailbag.com Tue, 15 Aug 2000 06:42:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 06:42:19 -0500 From: Matt Frank mljfrank@mailbag.com Subject: [slinkelist] ADO 2.1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C00683.F569ADC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailbag.com id GAA19840 I have a newer version of the ADO required by slinke. My guess is here I= don=92t need to download and install the ADO 2.1,=85 or do I? ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C00683.F569ADC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a = newer version of the ADO required by slinke.  My guess is here I don’t need to download and install the = ADO 2.1,… or do I?

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C00683.F569ADC0-- From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:39:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:39:43 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX400 vs CDP-CX450 On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:16:35 +0300, you wrote: >I bought the 350 about one year ago, and too one look at the remote and >the 2-(NO)Way remote is still in the original packing bag never been >used.=20 >I later bought STR-DB930 receiver and that had the 2-Way remote also, >and that one I MUST use, after first 10 seconds I felt wanted to throw >that remote out of the window, and ever since I have been regretting >that I didn't. > >If I had to choose between 2 otherwise identical models ,I for one would >pay more for one WITHOUT the 2-way remote. > > >'m not sure if the 400 has the "MegaChanger" feature, but that one is >quite useless when you have Slinke box & CDJ. Find out if the 400 can >also act as "MegaChanger" master (controlling another player), if it can >then I see no reason to pay extra for that horrible remote. > >I though to list all what is wrong with the remote, but it's much easier >to list what is not wrong with the remote :=20 > >. (end of list) I haven't used the remote very much, since I now have a Slink-e. But, if= you're problems with it are the user interface, then I certainly must agree! = It's awful having to open the lid to get to frequently used functions. OTOH, = I find its functionality to be pretty good ... I suspect the ability to search = by title, artist, etc. could be pretty useful ... but I've never actually = used those features! Nor have I used it enough to see if anything is missing.= But, in my mind, it's all irrelevant ... with a Slink-e there's just no need = for it. OTOH, I've found a universal remote to be very useful with my Slink-e, = since an unused device can be used to control CDJ! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From music@rodneyfox.com Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:23:23 +1000 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:23:23 +1000 From: Fine Music FM music@rodneyfox.com Subject: [slinkelist] automation of multiple play lists... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C00718.2FDE9620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello list, Just purchased my first CD changers... 4 of SONY CX450. These suckers = take some time when filling up. I am setting up play lists with various names. But for the exersize I = might refer to them as list 1, 2, 3, 4 and so on. What I am trying to acheive is to put together play lists for the = following month. Say play list 1 plays from 7am to 7pm Monday to = Friday. List 2 plays from 6.50am to 7.00 am (wake up sounds), List 3 = plays Jazz from 7 am each Saturday, list 4 plays classical from midnight = to 6.50 am, list 4 plays folk from 7 pm to 9 pm and so on... I have two major problems at the moment, 1.. I have a bit of trouble getting the play list to obey me (A bit = like my two sons). When it does it crashes out of the list at the = appointed 'finish' time. 2.. I can't seem to get the next list to fire up. I am looking for a feature which may not excist. I would like to find a = timer which help me see the time (actual time from PC clock) as the list = builds up. Even better would be able to ask the playlist to optimise = the lenth to fit time allocation. If you haven't guest yet, I'm wishing to use this system ON AIR. Any help would be appreciated. Please note that I haven't got into any of that code stuff yet. THX, RODNEY FOX. FINE MUSIC FM. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C00718.2FDE9620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello list,
 
Just purchased my first CD changers... = 4 of SONY=20 CX450.  These suckers take some time when filling up.
 
I am setting up play lists with various = names.  But for the exersize I might refer to them as list 1, 2, 3, = 4 and=20 so on.
 
What I am trying to acheive is to put = together play=20 lists for the following month.  Say play list 1 plays from 7am to = 7pm=20 Monday to Friday.  List 2 plays from 6.50am to 7.00 am (wake up = sounds),=20 List 3 plays Jazz from 7 am each Saturday, list 4 plays classical from = midnight=20 to 6.50 am, list 4 plays folk from 7 pm to 9 pm and so = on...
 
I have two major problems at the=20 moment,
 
  1. I have a bit of trouble getting the = play list to=20 obey me (A bit like my two sons).  When it does it crashes out of = the=20 list at the appointed 'finish' time.
  2. I can't seem to get the next list to = fire=20 up.
I am looking for a feature which may = not=20 excist.  I would like to find a timer which help me see the time = (actual=20 time from PC clock) as the list builds up.  Even better would be = able to=20 ask the playlist to optimise the lenth to fit time = allocation.
 
If you haven't guest yet, I'm wishing = to use this=20 system ON AIR.
 
Any help would be = appreciated.
 
Please note that I haven't got into any = of that=20 code stuff yet.
 
THX,
 
RODNEY FOX.
 
FINE MUSIC FM.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C00718.2FDE9620-- From clarkada@pilot.msu.edu Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:51:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam T Clark clarkada@pilot.msu.edu Subject: [slinkelist] sony 450 Does the 450 play burned cd's? i bought the 200 disc DVD player, and was greatly disappointed to find that it does NOT play burned cd's. i would like to leave a burned copy in my cd jukebox and take the originals with me in my car. thanks for the help -aTc From robert.clarke@uk.fid-intl.com Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:18:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:18:46 +0100 From: Clarke, Robert robert.clarke@uk.fid-intl.com Subject: [slinkelist] sony 450 My 350 does, so I guess the 450 probably does. -----Original Message----- From: Adam T Clark [mailto:clarkada@pilot.msu.edu] Sent: 15 August 2000 15:52 To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] sony 450 Does the 450 play burned cd's? i bought the 200 disc DVD player, and was greatly disappointed to find that it does NOT play burned cd's. i would like to leave a burned copy in my cd jukebox and take the originals with me in my car. thanks for the help -aTc _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From music@rodneyfox.com Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:26:31 +1000 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:26:31 +1000 From: Fine Music FM music@rodneyfox.com Subject: [slinkelist] Play list fiddle This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C00721.02257BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello List, Can I fiddle about building one play list whilest playing another? THX, RODNEY G FOX. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C00721.02257BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello List,
 
Can I fiddle about building one play = list whilest=20 playing another?
 
THX,
 
RODNEY G = FOX.
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C00721.02257BA0-- From Mark.Johnson@FirstDoor.com Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:32:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:32:05 -0400 From: Mark Johnson Mark.Johnson@FirstDoor.com Subject: [slinkelist] Adding Database Fields Can I get an added database field to show up as a column in the Albums window so I can sort on it? Mark Johnson From heemin@avnsl.mit.edu Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:35:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:35:41 -0400 From: Heemin Yang heemin@avnsl.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] sony 450 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C006D6.DA107FBA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I own a 300 and it even plays cd-rw's. -----Original Message----- From: Clarke, Robert [mailto:robert.clarke@uk.fid-intl.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:19 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] sony 450 My 350 does, so I guess the 450 probably does. -----Original Message----- From: Adam T Clark [mailto:clarkada@pilot.msu.edu] Sent: 15 August 2000 15:52 To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] sony 450 Does the 450 play burned cd's? i bought the 200 disc DVD player, and was greatly disappointed to find that it does NOT play burned cd's. i would like to leave a burned copy in my cd jukebox and take the originals with me in my car. thanks for the help -aTc _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ------_=_NextPart_001_01C006D6.DA107FBA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [slinkelist] sony 450

I own a 300 and it even plays cd-rw's.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clarke, Robert [mailto:robert.clarke@uk.fi= d-intl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:19 AM
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] sony 450


My 350 does, so I guess the 450 probably does.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam T Clark [mailto:clarkada@pilot.msu.edu= ]
Sent: 15 August 2000 15:52
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] sony 450


Does the 450 play burned cd's? i bought the 200 disc = DVD player, and was
greatly disappointed to find that it does NOT play = burned cd's.  i would
like
to leave a burned copy in my cd jukebox and take the = originals with me in my
car.  thanks for the help

-aTc


_______________________________________________
slinkelist maillist  -  = slinkelist@nirvis.com
http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist<= /FONT>


_______________________________________________
slinkelist maillist  -  = slinkelist@nirvis.com
http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist<= /FONT>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C006D6.DA107FBA-- From clarkada@pilot.msu.edu Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:24:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam T Clark clarkada@pilot.msu.edu Subject: [slinkelist] another 350, 400, and 450 question Another question, if you don't mind. do the 350, 400, and 450 allow you to play a cd while inserting other cd's? i own the 850 (200 disc dvd player) and any time you want to put in a new disc, it stops play on the current disc because evidently it doesn't have room to spin back around or something with an active disc. anyway, i find this a major shortcoming to the 850, as little as it seems. any good news for me about the design of the cd players? thanks again. -aTc From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:51:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:51:55 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ Data to Palm Pilot? I'd love to have the CDJ database in my Palm Pilot (in some useful = format). This would be very convenient when CD shopping! If there's a Pilot Database app, which handles MS Access format, the CDJ database could be loaded directly. But I don't know of any such app (I = haven't looked), and I don't know how useful the database format is. If nobody = can help out, I'll dig in & try to figure this out; but I'd rather save some = time. Has anybody done this? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From j0ns@yahoo.com Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:27:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:27:22 -0700 From: Jonathan Scott j0ns@yahoo.com Subject: [slinkelist] sony 450 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C006EE.D6405FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RE: [slinkelist] sony 450I've never managed to get my 350/300s to play CDRws (no idea why) and I've never got my DVD player to play CD/R However, I have found that the DVD player can play CD/RW no problem. No idea why. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Heemin Yang Sent: 15 August 2000 09:36 To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] sony 450 I own a 300 and it even plays cd-rw's. -----Original Message----- From: Clarke, Robert [mailto:robert.clarke@uk.fid-intl.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:19 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] sony 450 My 350 does, so I guess the 450 probably does. -----Original Message----- From: Adam T Clark [mailto:clarkada@pilot.msu.edu] Sent: 15 August 2000 15:52 To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] sony 450 Does the 450 play burned cd's? i bought the 200 disc DVD player, and was greatly disappointed to find that it does NOT play burned cd's. i would like to leave a burned copy in my cd jukebox and take the originals with me in my car. thanks for the help -aTc _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C006EE.D6405FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [slinkelist] sony 450
I've=20 never managed to get my 350/300s to play CDRws (no idea why) and I've = never got=20 my DVD player to play CD/R
 
However, I have found that the DVD player can play CD/RW no=20 problem.
 
No=20 idea why.
-----Original Message-----
From: = slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Heemin=20 Yang
Sent: 15 August 2000 09:36
To:=20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] sony=20 450

I own a 300 and it even plays cd-rw's.

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 Clarke, Robert [mailto:robert.clarke@uk.fid= -intl.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:19 AM =
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: = RE:=20 [slinkelist] sony 450


My 350 does, so I guess the 450 probably = does.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam=20 T Clark [mailto:clarkada@pilot.msu.edu]= =20
Sent: 15 August 2000 15:52
To:=20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] = sony=20 450


Does the 450 play burned cd's? i bought the 200 disc = DVD=20 player, and was
greatly disappointed to find = that it=20 does NOT play burned cd's.  i would
like=20
to leave a burned copy in my cd jukebox and take = the=20 originals with me in my
car.  thanks = for the=20 help

-aTc


_______________________________________________=20
slinkelist maillist  - =20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
http://www.nir= vis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist=20


_______________________________________________=20
slinkelist maillist  - =20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
http://www.nir= vis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist=20

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C006EE.D6405FA0-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From pfaffman@relaxpc.com Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:37:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:37:22 -0500 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ Data to Palm Pilot? My Slinke computer is offline right now, so this won't have all the info, but perhaps some now is better than none. There's a Palm App called "mobileDB lt". It's free, but can only read databases--that's not a problem since we want only CDJ to modify the database anyway. There's a Windoze App that I can't remember the name of which will convert an Access database into the format the MobileDB reads; there should be links to it on the MobileDB page. For a while, I had a script in autoexec which re-built that file on every reboot and wrote it to my file server so that I could update the info in the Palm. It's pretty cool, and does come in handy when shopping, or just musing. On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:51:55 -0400, David Morgenlender said: > I'd love to have the CDJ database in my Palm Pilot (in some useful format). > This would be very convenient when CD shopping! > If there's a Pilot Database app, which handles MS Access format, the CDJ > database could be loaded directly. But I don't know of any such app (I haven't > looked), and I don't know how useful the database format is. If nobody can help > out, I'll dig in & try to figure this out; but I'd rather save some time. > Has anybody done this? > ======================================================= > Dave Morgenlender > e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu > ======================================================= > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relaxpc.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ Please note new email address! I am relax.com no more. From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:25:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:25:32 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ Data to Palm Pilot? On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:37:22 -0500, you wrote: >My Slinke computer is offline right now, so this won't have all the >info, but perhaps some now is better than none. > >There's a Palm App called "mobileDB lt". It's free, but can only read >databases--that's not a problem since we want only CDJ to modify the >database anyway. There's a Windoze App that I can't remember the name >of which will convert an Access database into the format the MobileDB >reads; there should be links to it on the MobileDB page. For a while, >I had a script in autoexec which re-built that file on every reboot >and wrote it to my file server so that I could update the info in the >Palm. It's pretty cool, and does come in handy when shopping, or just >musing. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll take a look. I'm curious ... how do you handle the list of CDs to buy? My list is = HUGE; it includes CDs to look into, artists to try, etc. ... i.e. it goes way = beyond what I intend to buy in the near future. Often there are a lot of notes. Now= it's basically a free form outline in Ecco, which I don't sync, since I don't = like the way memo handles are handled; I may just convert it to InfoSelect, = which has a very nice outline sync capability. My preferred approach, though, = is a database, especially if integrated with the database of CDs I own. = However, this probably goes way beyond anything I can do with the CDJ database. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From jhawk@nmia.com Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:40:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:40:37 -0600 From: John Hawk jhawk@nmia.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Palm Pilot database This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0075E.0D22F950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am currently working on a windows application to export the CDJ database into palm format. There will be a custom palm application to go along with it. Workinging on it as time permits. I was wondering if there was a market for such a thing...guess there are at least a few who could use it!!! ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0075E.0D22F950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am = currently=20 working on a windows application to export the CDJ database into palm=20 format.
There = will be a=20 custom palm application to go along with it. Workinging on it as time=20 permits.
I was = wondering if=20 there was a market for such a thing...guess there are at least a few=20 who
could = use=20 it!!!
 
------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0075E.0D22F950-- From dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:21:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:21:27 -0400 From: David Morgenlender dmorgen@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Palm Pilot database On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:40:37 -0600, you wrote: >I am currently working on a windows application to export the CDJ = database >into palm format. >There will be a custom palm application to go along with it. Workinging = on >it as time permits. >I was wondering if there was a market for such a thing...guess there are= at >least a few who >could use it!!! What features does it have? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dave Morgenlender e-mail: dmorgen@alum.mit.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From sonnie@casema.net Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:42:42 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:42:42 +0200 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] Looking for 1 Windows NT and or Windows 2000 Cover Retriever Application beta tester... Hi All, I'm looking for someone to do some beta testing on a 'new' cover retriever application I've been working on/using for the last couple (6) of months. This involves basic compatibility testing on Windows NT and Windows 2000. I'm looking for 1 (One only!) beta tester which has either or preferably both Operating systems running, and Internet connection (preferably speedy :-) and a CDJ database with several CD's. If you are interested please reply to this BBS/Email list. Thanks, Jeroen From iancole@earthlink.net Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:33:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:33:56 -0400 From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] Looking for 1 Windows NT and or Windows 2000 Cover Retriever Application beta tester... I run Win98 / Win2000 pro / Win2000 server, all with CDJ, and all with DSL I'd be interested in testing on any / all of those platforms. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Sonnie To: Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 5:42 PM Subject: [slinkelist] Looking for 1 Windows NT and or Windows 2000 Cover Retriever Application beta tester... > Hi All, > > I'm looking for someone to do some beta testing on a 'new' cover retriever > application I've been working on/using for the last couple (6) of months. > > This involves basic compatibility testing on Windows NT and Windows 2000. > > I'm looking for 1 (One only!) beta tester which has either or preferably > both Operating systems running, and Internet connection (preferably speedy > :-) and a CDJ database with several CD's. > > If you are interested please reply to this BBS/Email list. > > Thanks, > > Jeroen > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From dale@theandrens.com Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:53:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:53:30 -0500 From: dale@theandrens.com dale@theandrens.com Subject: [slinkelist] Looking for 1 Windows NT and or Windows 2000 Cover Retriever Application beta tester... Sonny, I have Win NT and about 3 changers and about 500 CD's and would gladly beta test. Thanks, Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Cole" To: "Sonnie" ; Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Looking for 1 Windows NT and or Windows 2000 Cover Retriever Application beta tester... > I run Win98 / Win2000 pro / Win2000 server, all with CDJ, and all with DSL > > I'd be interested in testing on any / all of those platforms. > > Ian > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sonnie > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 5:42 PM > Subject: [slinkelist] Looking for 1 Windows NT and or Windows 2000 Cover > Retriever Application beta tester... > > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm looking for someone to do some beta testing on a 'new' cover retriever > > application I've been working on/using for the last couple (6) of months. > > > > This involves basic compatibility testing on Windows NT and Windows 2000. > > > > I'm looking for 1 (One only!) beta tester which has either or preferably > > both Operating systems running, and Internet connection (preferably speedy > > :-) and a CDJ database with several CD's. > > > > If you are interested please reply to this BBS/Email list. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From sonnie@casema.net Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:51:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:51:25 +0200 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] Looking for 1 Windows NT and or Windows 2000 Cover Retriever Application beta tester... Looks like I already have a winner. The rest will have to wait for the official release.... Thanks Guys, Jeroen ---Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Ian Cole Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:34 AM To: Sonnie; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Looking for 1 Windows NT and or Windows 2000 Cover Retriever Application beta tester... I run Win98 / Win2000 pro / Win2000 server, all with CDJ, and all with DSL I'd be interested in testing on any / all of those platforms. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Sonnie To: Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 5:42 PM Subject: [slinkelist] Looking for 1 Windows NT and or Windows 2000 Cover Retriever Application beta tester... > Hi All, > > I'm looking for someone to do some beta testing on a 'new' cover retriever > application I've been working on/using for the last couple (6) of months. > > This involves basic compatibility testing on Windows NT and Windows 2000. > > I'm looking for 1 (One only!) beta tester which has either or preferably > both Operating systems running, and Internet connection (preferably speedy > :-) and a CDJ database with several CD's. > > If you are interested please reply to this BBS/Email list. > > Thanks, > > Jeroen > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From kevin_marley@hotmail.com Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:30:45 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:30:45 GMT From: Kevin Marley kevin_marley@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] X10 Firecracker Hello, I was wondering if there was a way to get CDJ to send signals through the X10 firecracker. I tried using the cm11a device with no luck. (not 100% sure I set it up correctly) Has anybody done this? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:06:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:06:17 -0700 From: Hoen, Dave Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Subject: [slinkelist] Master-Slave / Track Restart / MD Manager For those of you who have implemented the Master-Slave modification to your Slink-e, you may be interested in the following problem. For those of you who haven't, no need to read on, this doesn't apply to you. The last couple of versions of CDJ have not worked correctly with my Master-Slave circuitry. This is the circuitry recommended on the Nirvis website for those of us who want to be able to use CDJ to control our sound system or let our system run standalone in a Sony Master-Slave environment. Up until the last few versions of CDJ, this circuitry worked very well and more or less solved most of my mysterious CDJ hangs. Here are the symptoms with the latest software (08/07): After running CDJ for an hour or so, I will start getting track restarts or track aborts. From that point on, about 1 in 5 tracks will have restarts or aborts. (A restart is starting a track over after it has already played for several seconds. An abort is stopping a track after it has played for a few seconds, and going on to the next track.) The problem seems to be exacerbated if I run MD Manager. Using MD Manager the problem usually happens within two or three tracks and usually halts playing after the current track. I have seen it occur in as short as one track and as long as 10 tracks, however. What I have discovered: The DIO 0 signal from the parallel port of the Slink-e is used to switch from Master-Slave environment to CDJ environment. When you start up CDJ, this signal is set to logic high and is used to energize the relay. When you shut down CDJ, this signal is cleared to logic low and de-energizes the relay. At least that is how it is supposed to work. What is really happening, is while CDJ is running, this signal is being cleared to logic low. This reconnects the s-link busses, and things go amok. What I have done about it: Although it may be something peculiar to my setup, I don't know how anything in my setup could possibly be changing the state of the DIO 0 signal. I have been in e-mail conversation with Colby, so he is aware of the problem, but may be low-priority. Which I can understand completely. In the meantime, I have installed a switch across the collector and emitter of the transistor used to energize the relay. If I want to run CDJ, I close the switch. If I want to run standalone, I open the switch. It is a little more work, but everything is working great again, especially MD Manager. Hopefully the cause can soon be found, and I can just leave the switch open. Dave Hoen p.s. In addition to the normal slinkelist, I am copying this to several people (on the slinkelist) who have reported similar problems. Thanks for your suggestions, and hope this might solve some of yours. From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:16:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:16:02 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Master-Slave / Track Restart / MD Manager Curious that you should bring this up. I been having a different but not that dissimilar problem. I'm not doing the master/slave thing but have an app that runs and communicates with CDJ and handles other IR chores. Perhaps part of it is similar to MD Manager. I found that after about an hour (similarity here), things would start going bonkers (technical term) in ways similar to what you describe. In my case, I found that things improved if my app no longer listened to the cdslr devices. It still occasionally goes into la-la land but after a much longer time (hours rather than always about an hour). Once it gets to la-la land, stopping the playlist and restarting it doesn't clear the problem. I don't know what's going on with the latest version of CDJ (8/14) but one thing I noticed that even it seems to be struggling to keep the UI up-to-date. I noticed particularly that the album cover changes seem to be much more sluggish -- often switching five seconds or more after the track has started. Also, when it goes into la-la land and I stop the playlist, it seems there is a lot of activity going on in the devices window and finally it catches up and both my players indicate they're stopped. Maybe these two problems are related at some level. I hope so because having additional data points, it may be easier for Colby to find a fix. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Hoen, Dave > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 12:06 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Cc: Jeff Schaffer; andre.nijhuis@tnt-lb.com; Heemin Yang > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Master-Slave / Track Restart / MD Manager > > > For those of you who have implemented the Master-Slave modification to > your Slink-e, you may be interested in the following problem. For those > of you who haven't, no need to read on, this doesn't apply to you. > > The last couple of versions of CDJ have not worked correctly with my > Master-Slave circuitry. This is the circuitry recommended on the Nirvis > website for those of us who want to be able to use CDJ to control our > sound system or let our system run standalone in a Sony Master-Slave > environment. Up until the last few versions of CDJ, this circuitry > worked very well and more or less solved most of my mysterious CDJ hangs. > > Here are the symptoms with the latest software (08/07): > After running CDJ for an hour or so, I will start getting track restarts > or track aborts. From that point on, about 1 in 5 tracks will have > restarts or aborts. (A restart is starting a track over after it has > already played for several seconds. An abort is stopping a track after > it has played for a few seconds, and going on to the next track.) The > problem seems to be exacerbated if I run MD Manager. Using MD Manager > the problem usually happens within two or three tracks and usually halts > playing after the current track. I have seen it occur in as short as one > track and as long as 10 tracks, however. > > What I have discovered: > The DIO 0 signal from the parallel port of the Slink-e is used to switch > from Master-Slave environment to CDJ environment. When you start up CDJ, > this signal is set to logic high and is used to energize the relay. When > you shut down CDJ, this signal is cleared to logic low and de-energizes > the relay. At least that is how it is supposed to work. What is really > happening, is while CDJ is running, this signal is being cleared to logic > low. This reconnects the s-link busses, and things go amok. > > What I have done about it: > Although it may be something peculiar to my setup, I don't know how > anything in my setup could possibly be changing the state of the DIO 0 > signal. I have been in e-mail conversation with Colby, so he is aware of > the problem, but may be low-priority. Which I can understand > completely. In the meantime, I have installed a switch across the > collector and emitter of the transistor used to energize the relay. If I > want to run CDJ, I close the switch. If I want to run standalone, I open > the switch. It is a little more work, but everything is working great > again, especially MD Manager. Hopefully the cause can soon be found, and > I can just leave the switch open. > > Dave Hoen > > p.s. In addition to the normal slinkelist, I am copying this to several > people (on the slinkelist) who have reported similar problems. Thanks > for your suggestions, and hope this might solve some of yours. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From Neil@neils.net Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:48:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:48:35 -0400 From: Neil Cunningham Neil@neils.net Subject: [slinkelist] Help, Slink Receive file not working. I'm trying to get all my device files worked out and I'm having a problem with the receive mode for the tuner section. My amp files work fine in that when I issue the amp_send:mode command I get the amp_receive:mode command as a response. (both of these are mapped in their device files) For the tuner I can send the tuner_send:mode command and get this in response: [C9 70 01 01 40 244A] tuner_send mode [C9 70 01 03 40 2512] tuner_send mode I know everything after the "70" is tuner info (preset, am/fm, freq). My problem is I'm not sure what to put in my tuner_receive file to get this information in the same format as the amp. tuner_receive:mode[0103402512] This is what is in my tuner_receive file and not working: 1100100101110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhh:mode This is what is in my amp_receive file and is working: 1100100001110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhh:mode Thanks, Neil From iancole@earthlink.net Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:44:42 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:44:42 -0400 From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] Help, Slink Receive file not working. Your tuner sends more information than the tuner of the person that originally created the mode command. Add a mode2 that looks like this (or change the mode command) 1100100101110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhhiiiijjjj:mode This is 4 repetitions of one letter per number below > tuner_receive:mode[0103402512] Each hex number is 4 binary digits, thats why each number gets four repetitions of the letter. Anyone that know more about this & needs to correct me, feel free I've also modified my surround recv file with the following 01110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffff:mode2 01110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhh:mode3 The mode 2 comes from my DA80ES The mode 3 comes from my 545s Once I finish with the codes, I'll create distinct files. ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Cunningham To: Slinkelist (E-mail) Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 1:48 AM Subject: [slinkelist] Help, Slink Receive file not working. > I'm trying to get all my device files worked out and I'm having a > problem with the receive mode for the tuner section. > > My amp files work fine in that when I issue the amp_send:mode command I > get the amp_receive:mode command as a response. (both of these are > mapped in their device files) > > For the tuner I can send the tuner_send:mode command and get this in > response: > > [C9 70 01 01 40 244A] > tuner_send mode > > > [C9 70 01 03 40 2512] > tuner_send mode > > I know everything after the "70" is tuner info (preset, am/fm, freq). > My problem is I'm not sure what to put in my tuner_receive file to get > this information in the same format as the amp. > tuner_receive:mode[0103402512] > > This is what is in my tuner_receive file and not working: > 1100100101110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhh:mode > > This is what is in my amp_receive file and is working: > 1100100001110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhh:mode > > > Thanks, > Neil > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From iancole@earthlink.net Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:47:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:47:11 -0400 From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] Help, Slink Receive file not working. Since we are on the subject of device codes, anyone know how to get the volume from the newer amps? I can get ALL levels from the surround section except main volume & the volume in the device files doesn't return anything... ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Cunningham To: Slinkelist (E-mail) Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 1:48 AM Subject: [slinkelist] Help, Slink Receive file not working. > I'm trying to get all my device files worked out and I'm having a > problem with the receive mode for the tuner section. > > My amp files work fine in that when I issue the amp_send:mode command I > get the amp_receive:mode command as a response. (both of these are > mapped in their device files) > > For the tuner I can send the tuner_send:mode command and get this in > response: > > [C9 70 01 01 40 244A] > tuner_send mode > > > [C9 70 01 03 40 2512] > tuner_send mode > > I know everything after the "70" is tuner info (preset, am/fm, freq). > My problem is I'm not sure what to put in my tuner_receive file to get > this information in the same format as the amp. > tuner_receive:mode[0103402512] > > This is what is in my tuner_receive file and not working: > 1100100101110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhh:mode > > This is what is in my amp_receive file and is working: > 1100100001110000aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffffgggghhhh:mode > > > Thanks, > Neil > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From brian@posthuman.com Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:33:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:33:19 -0400 From: Brian Atkins brian@posthuman.com Subject: [slinkelist] How to save window layout in CDJ? I'm using the latest version of CDJ. I want to re-arrange the windows so the players are on the right side of the screen, but I can find no way to save the layout. Every time CDJ starts it reverts back to the old scheme. I could've sworn there was an option to save the layout in older versions of CDJ? From cfpaul@icnt.net Mon, 21 Aug 2000 02:21:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 02:21:37 -0700 From: Charles F. Paul cfpaul@icnt.net Subject: [slinkelist] Ratings view and/or editing library tables I am brand new to CDJ and am using the latest version. The help information says that I can add image files by typing in the file name in the "ratings view", but I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know how to access the "ratings view"? As an alternative, I tried to modify the library album table directly, but MS Access 2000 says that the data base is an old format. I can view the information with it, but can't change anything. Does anyone know of a way to edit the library tables directly, outside of CDJ? Thanks, Fred Paul ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com From vknight@primary.net Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:57:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:57:30 -0500 From: Vann M. Knight vknight@primary.net Subject: [slinkelist] how change location of Album Covers? Folks, I recently moved my cdj installation from one computer to another. I installed the new version of cdj and them moved my database and directory of album covers to the new computer. I have hundreds of album covers. On the new computer I need to locate the album covers on another disk than I used on my old computer. The location of the album covers was f:/program files/nirvis/slinke/Album Covers. On the new computer I need to locate them on another drive. Is there an easy way to globally change this in the database? I would rather not go thru and manually associate each cover with each disk. thanks, Vann Knight From michael@laserle.fi Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:27:56 +0300 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:27:56 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Ratings view and/or editing library tables Do you see the image window (lower right) in the bottom of that Image window are tabs : Image | Details | Lyrics | Notes click on the "Details" tab. BTW you can just Drag&drop the image file from Windows_explorer window to the Image window and CDJ automaticly copies the path to that image file (just like mp3 with files) NOTE : it does NOT copy the file ONLY the path !!! another good tip it to drag & drop the file from network_neighbourhood window so then the path will be in "network compatible" format = "\\Computer_name\sharename\path\file" this is important IF you intend to use CDJ from another computer in your network (if you have one) via DCOM/SlinkeServ. -michael (A) -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- "Charles F. Paul" wrote: > > I am brand new to CDJ and am using the latest version. > > The help information says that I can add image files by typing in the > file name in the "ratings view", but I can't find it anywhere. Does > anyone know how to access the "ratings view"? > > As an alternative, I tried to modify the library album table directly, > but MS Access 2000 says that the data base is an old format. I can view > the information with it, but can't change anything. Does anyone know of > a way to edit the library tables directly, outside of CDJ? > > Thanks, > Fred Paul > > ________________________________________________________ > 1stUp.com - Free the Web > Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From michael@laserle.fi Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:39:49 +0300 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:39:49 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] how change location of Album Covers? 2 options comes to mind 1) change the path info in the library DB with micros**t Access or use any REAL sql tool. 2) go to dos prompt and say "subst f: ", remember that the rest of the path needs to be identical and then add that line to autoexec.bat the second one is easier, but not as good as the first one, but A LOT safer if you are not familar with database operations. Though as horrible as MS Access is, this kind of operation is quite easy to do with it (even for beginners). -michael (A) "Vann M. Knight" wrote: > > Folks, > > I recently moved my cdj installation from one computer to another. I > installed the new version of cdj and them moved my database and directory of > album covers to the new computer. I have hundreds of album covers. On the > new computer I need to locate the album covers on another disk than I used > on my old computer. The location of the album covers was f:/program > files/nirvis/slinke/Album Covers. On the new computer I need to locate them > on another drive. Is there an easy way to globally change this in the > database? I would rather not go thru and manually associate each cover with > each disk. > > thanks, > > Vann Knight > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| -------------------------------------------------------------------- From billie@well.com Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:37:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:37:59 -0700 From: Billie billie@well.com Subject: [slinkelist] CD Text: a novice For the benefit of any one else who was having CD Text trouble with homebrew CDs. I figured out the mistake I was making: CDs need to be cut in DISK at ONCE mode and not Track at once. Doh! My bad. Sorry for eating bandwidth. CDJ is handling them fine. Billie Cox From andre.nijhuis@tnt-lb.com Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:05:17 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:05:17 +0200 From: Andre Nijhuis andre.nijhuis@tnt-lb.com Subject: [slinkelist] Using playlists, but also directly playnig any CD Hello Would somebody be able to help me with the following problem: First briefly my set-up: I have a Sony CX260 and a CX350 in a master/slave set-up My players and the laptop that runs CDJ are placed in a closet. I give my commands to SlinkE via the CX350 remote control (the master). The IR signal goes through the wall via a special tool in order to reach the SlinkE IR eye. As my players/laptop are not visible, I need to trust blindly on the remote functions. I can see the screen of CDJ on my television set but I haven't got it switch on always, or my kids are watching something else on the TV. Lately I have learned the beautiful things one can do by programming the maps.txt file such that I can use my sony remote to start any specific playlist selection that I defined. But what I can't figure out is how I start a specific CD (or track) What I would like to do is use the scroll button from the remote and thus selecting a certain CD and then by pushing the button automatically stopping the playlist that is running and force that specific CD to start. I want to use that scroll button as I have programmed most of the numbers below the flap as specific playlists. I do not see in the help-file which command I could use to force this to happen. I can obviously stop the playlist, turn the playlist mode to manual, but how would I be able to select specific CD's or tracks from there on. I would appreciate any help that could point me in the right direction. Or if someone else has a set-up that I could also use I would be highly interested. Regards Andre From max@netscape.com Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:59:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:59:40 -0700 From: Mike Macgirvin max@netscape.com Subject: [slinkelist] newbie notes I just recently got cdj and slinke running last week and overall I'm very pleased with the combo - especially given the pathetic user interface of the Sony CX450. I've also looked at recent mailing list archives, so I know that this is a product in active development and things are changing. As a first time user, I wanted to point out a few areas that could benefit from just a bit of enhancement. 1. Saving window layouts. Every time I start it up I've got to drag the artist/title columns wide enough to read. 2. Ability to play directly without adding to a playlist. I notice that this feature apparently once existed but not in the recent code. 3. The help files say you can import mp3's by dragging them into the library. I did this with 150 selected files and got back 150 error messages (separated by a few seconds each) telling me I needed to drop them into an album, not a CD. No way to stop/cancel. Now that I know I won't do it that way again, but changing the help text (create an album first, then drag onto the album) could save some grief and a lot of time. Or allow a cancel-all at the point the error first comes up. Or would it be too difficult for the software to just create an album and drop them in? --- I also tried to drag a file system folder containing MP3's and wasn't allowed (folder file type unsupported). Seems the folder could make an easy named album _if_ auto-create happened. 4. A bit concerned about database reliability. Once when I restarted, there were empty slots where they had previously been found and identified. Scanning again found them and didn't have to go out to CDDB to name them. But the concern is because I had about thirty or so CD's which weren't in CDDB and I've now typed them all in by hand and fixed some CDDB entries that were wrong. I don't wish to do it again. Options could be to backup the DB (which I did manually), and/or allow import/export to text files. 5. As noted by others the upload of text to the CX-450 seems to be missing stuff. This may be a player limitation. Why on earth they would limit a 400-CD player to 200 artist names is beyond me; unless they just reused firmware from the CX-200. Half my collection is "various artists" so I think I've got about 1000 total. But the song names seem to be missing - all I get is album name on the player. 6. Long term enhancement - it would be nice to see "What's Playing" queryable from a remote computer or device. I'm piping music all over the house. If it were just dumped to a text file I could work with it. Added points for "What's Next" in the cases where that's known, but I understand how hard that one could be. None of these are critical issues except perhaps the DB reliability, and I can work around or live with all of them. This is mostly just a note so that the developers can tabulate what irks the most people the most and prioritize accordingly. I'm quite happy with this product overall and would like to praise the developers for such a painless installation. Getting strange hardware and software to communicate is usually quite a daunting task and the installation went very smoothly and everything worked pretty much as expected the first time. From shawn@sboyle.com 21 Aug 2000 10:32:16 -0700 Date: 21 Aug 2000 10:32:16 -0700 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] newbie notes You can do number six right now. You need to use the slink-e activeX control. You can get info for the playing track, as well as info for any track in the playlist. I have a program that I wrote to generate a text file of the current song's info. I use it with HomeVision to display track info on all of the TV's. I don't have it here at work but I'd be happy to post a link to it when I get home. If you know VB you can also take a look at the source code to see how it works. I think CDJ also comes with a sample VB app. For number two -- if you set the default action to "Add as next and play" [in the options window] then double clicking on a track produces the same result as in previous versions. -Shawn On Mon, 21 August 2000, Mike Macgirvin wrote: > > > I just recently got cdj and slinke running last week and overall I'm > very pleased with the combo - especially given the pathetic user > interface of the Sony CX450. > > I've also looked at recent mailing list archives, so I know that this is > a product in active development and things are changing. As a first time > user, I wanted to point out a few areas that could benefit from just a > bit of enhancement. > > 1. Saving window layouts. Every time I start it up I've got to drag the > artist/title columns wide enough to read. > > 2. Ability to play directly without adding to a playlist. I notice that > this feature apparently once existed but not in the recent code. > > 3. The help files say you can import mp3's by dragging them into the > library. I did this with 150 selected files and got back 150 error > messages (separated by a few seconds each) telling me I needed to drop > them into an album, not a CD. No way to stop/cancel. Now that I know I > won't do it that way again, but changing the help text (create an album > first, then drag onto the album) could save some grief and a lot of > time. Or allow a cancel-all at the point the error first comes up. Or > would it be too difficult for the software to just create an album and > drop them in? --- I also tried to drag a file system folder containing > MP3's and wasn't allowed (folder file type unsupported). Seems the > folder could make an easy named album _if_ auto-create happened. > > 4. A bit concerned about database reliability. Once when I restarted, > there were empty slots where they had previously been found and > identified. Scanning again found them and didn't have to go out to CDDB > to name them. But the concern is because I had about thirty or so CD's > which weren't in CDDB and I've now typed them all in by hand and fixed > some CDDB entries that were wrong. I don't wish to do it again. Options > could be to backup the DB (which I did manually), and/or allow > import/export to text files. > > 5. As noted by others the upload of text to the CX-450 seems to be > missing stuff. This may be a player limitation. Why on earth they would > limit a 400-CD player to 200 artist names is beyond me; unless they just > reused firmware from the CX-200. Half my collection is "various artists" > so I think I've got about 1000 total. But the song names seem to be > missing - all I get is album name on the player. > > 6. Long term enhancement - it would be nice to see "What's Playing" > queryable from a remote computer or device. I'm piping music all over > the house. If it were just dumped to a text file I could work with it. > Added points for "What's Next" in the cases where that's known, but I > understand how hard that one could be. > > None of these are critical issues except perhaps the DB reliability, and > I can work around or live with all of them. This is mostly just a note > so that the developers can tabulate what irks the most people the most > and prioritize accordingly. > > I'm quite happy with this product overall and would like to praise the > developers for such a painless installation. Getting strange hardware > and software to communicate is usually quite a daunting task and the > installation went very smoothly and everything worked pretty much as > expected the first time. > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________________ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: pager@sboyle.com or 877.WYN.SPAM _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From z1z@mailandnews.com Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:32:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:32:20 -0400 From: The Z Man z1z@mailandnews.com Subject: [slinkelist] newbie notes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Macgirvin" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 12:59 PM Subject: [slinkelist] newbie notes > > I just recently got cdj and slinke running last week and overall I'm > very pleased with the combo - especially given the pathetic user > interface of the Sony CX450. What's wrong with the interface? From shawn@sboyle.com 22 Aug 2000 04:58:04 -0700 Date: 22 Aug 2000 04:58:04 -0700 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] newbie notes Here are those links: EXE: http://www.sboyle.com/automation/Track_File.exe Source: http://www.sboyle.com/automation/track2file.zip -Shawn On Mon, 21 August 2000, shawn@sboyle.com wrote: > > You can do number six right now. You need to use the slink-e activeX control. You can get info for the playing track, as well as info for any track in the playlist. > > I have a program that I wrote to generate a text file of the current song's info. I use it with HomeVision to display track info on all of the TV's. I don't have it here at work but I'd be happy to post a link to it when I get home. If you know VB you can also take a look at the source code to see how it works. I think CDJ also comes with a sample VB app. > > For number two -- if you set the default action to "Add as next and play" [in the options window] then double clicking on a track produces the same result as in previous versions. > > -Shawn > > On Mon, 21 August 2000, Mike Macgirvin wrote: > > > > > > > I just recently got cdj and slinke running last week and overall I'm > > very pleased with the combo - especially given the pathetic user > > interface of the Sony CX450. > > > > I've also looked at recent mailing list archives, so I know that this is > > a product in active development and things are changing. As a first time > > user, I wanted to point out a few areas that could benefit from just a > > bit of enhancement. > > > > 1. Saving window layouts. Every time I start it up I've got to drag the > > artist/title columns wide enough to read. > > > > 2. Ability to play directly without adding to a playlist. I notice that > > this feature apparently once existed but not in the recent code. > > > > 3. The help files say you can import mp3's by dragging them into the > > library. I did this with 150 selected files and got back 150 error > > messages (separated by a few seconds each) telling me I needed to drop > > them into an album, not a CD. No way to stop/cancel. Now that I know I > > won't do it that way again, but changing the help text (create an album > > first, then drag onto the album) could save some grief and a lot of > > time. Or allow a cancel-all at the point the error first comes up. Or > > would it be too difficult for the software to just create an album and > > drop them in? --- I also tried to drag a file system folder containing > > MP3's and wasn't allowed (folder file type unsupported). Seems the > > folder could make an easy named album _if_ auto-create happened. > > > > 4. A bit concerned about database reliability. Once when I restarted, > > there were empty slots where they had previously been found and > > identified. Scanning again found them and didn't have to go out to CDDB > > to name them. But the concern is because I had about thirty or so CD's > > which weren't in CDDB and I've now typed them all in by hand and fixed > > some CDDB entries that were wrong. I don't wish to do it again. Options > > could be to backup the DB (which I did manually), and/or allow > > import/export to text files. > > > > 5. As noted by others the upload of text to the CX-450 seems to be > > missing stuff. This may be a player limitation. Why on earth they would > > limit a 400-CD player to 200 artist names is beyond me; unless they just > > reused firmware from the CX-200. Half my collection is "various artists" > > so I think I've got about 1000 total. But the song names seem to be > > missing - all I get is album name on the player. > > > > 6. Long term enhancement - it would be nice to see "What's Playing" > > queryable from a remote computer or device. I'm piping music all over > > the house. If it were just dumped to a text file I could work with it. > > Added points for "What's Next" in the cases where that's known, but I > > understand how hard that one could be. > > > > None of these are critical issues except perhaps the DB reliability, and > > I can work around or live with all of them. This is mostly just a note > > so that the developers can tabulate what irks the most people the most > > and prioritize accordingly. > > > > I'm quite happy with this product overall and would like to praise the > > developers for such a painless installation. Getting strange hardware > > and software to communicate is usually quite a daunting task and the > > installation went very smoothly and everything worked pretty much as > > expected the first time. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > _______________________________________________________ > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com > Pager: pager@sboyle.com or 877.WYN.SPAM > _______________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your > own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________________ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: pager@sboyle.com or 877.WYN.SPAM _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From shawn@sboyle.com 22 Aug 2000 08:10:54 -0700 Date: 22 Aug 2000 08:10:54 -0700 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] newbie notes I forgot to tell you how it works. [Duh] It takes a single command line argument that is the path and filename for the text file you want the program to output to. For example: track_file.exe c:\program files\nirvis\cdj\current.txt Notice there are NO QUOTATION MARKS. Even though there are spaces in the path. And make sure that CDJ is set to use Slikeserv. -Shawn On Tue, 22 August 2000, shawn@sboyle.com wrote: > > Here are those links: > > EXE: > http://www.sboyle.com/automation/Track_File.exe > > Source: > http://www.sboyle.com/automation/track2file.zip > > -Shawn > > > On Mon, 21 August 2000, shawn@sboyle.com wrote: > > > > > You can do number six right now. You need to use the slink-e activeX control. You can get info for the playing track, as well as info for any track in the playlist. > > > > I have a program that I wrote to generate a text file of the current song's info. I use it with HomeVision to display track info on all of the TV's. I don't have it here at work but I'd be happy to post a link to it when I get home. If you know VB you can also take a look at the source code to see how it works. I think CDJ also comes with a sample VB app. > > > > For number two -- if you set the default action to "Add as next and play" [in the options window] then double clicking on a track produces the same result as in previous versions. > > > > -Shawn > > > > On Mon, 21 August 2000, Mike Macgirvin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I just recently got cdj and slinke running last week and overall I'm > > > very pleased with the combo - especially given the pathetic user > > > interface of the Sony CX450. > > > > > > I've also looked at recent mailing list archives, so I know that this is > > > a product in active development and things are changing. As a first time > > > user, I wanted to point out a few areas that could benefit from just a > > > bit of enhancement. > > > > > > 1. Saving window layouts. Every time I start it up I've got to drag the > > > artist/title columns wide enough to read. > > > > > > 2. Ability to play directly without adding to a playlist. I notice that > > > this feature apparently once existed but not in the recent code. > > > > > > 3. The help files say you can import mp3's by dragging them into the > > > library. I did this with 150 selected files and got back 150 error > > > messages (separated by a few seconds each) telling me I needed to drop > > > them into an album, not a CD. No way to stop/cancel. Now that I know I > > > won't do it that way again, but changing the help text (create an album > > > first, then drag onto the album) could save some grief and a lot of > > > time. Or allow a cancel-all at the point the error first comes up. Or > > > would it be too difficult for the software to just create an album and > > > drop them in? --- I also tried to drag a file system folder containing > > > MP3's and wasn't allowed (folder file type unsupported). Seems the > > > folder could make an easy named album _if_ auto-create happened. > > > > > > 4. A bit concerned about database reliability. Once when I restarted, > > > there were empty slots where they had previously been found and > > > identified. Scanning again found them and didn't have to go out to CDDB > > > to name them. But the concern is because I had about thirty or so CD's > > > which weren't in CDDB and I've now typed them all in by hand and fixed > > > some CDDB entries that were wrong. I don't wish to do it again. Options > > > could be to backup the DB (which I did manually), and/or allow > > > import/export to text files. > > > > > > 5. As noted by others the upload of text to the CX-450 seems to be > > > missing stuff. This may be a player limitation. Why on earth they would > > > limit a 400-CD player to 200 artist names is beyond me; unless they just > > > reused firmware from the CX-200. Half my collection is "various artists" > > > so I think I've got about 1000 total. But the song names seem to be > > > missing - all I get is album name on the player. > > > > > > 6. Long term enhancement - it would be nice to see "What's Playing" > > > queryable from a remote computer or device. I'm piping music all over > > > the house. If it were just dumped to a text file I could work with it. > > > Added points for "What's Next" in the cases where that's known, but I > > > understand how hard that one could be. > > > > > > None of these are critical issues except perhaps the DB reliability, and > > > I can work around or live with all of them. This is mostly just a note > > > so that the developers can tabulate what irks the most people the most > > > and prioritize accordingly. > > > > > > I'm quite happy with this product overall and would like to praise the > > > developers for such a painless installation. Getting strange hardware > > > and software to communicate is usually quite a daunting task and the > > > installation went very smoothly and everything worked pretty much as > > > expected the first time. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > > E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com > > Pager: pager@sboyle.com or 877.WYN.SPAM > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your > > own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > _______________________________________________________ > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com > Pager: pager@sboyle.com or 877.WYN.SPAM > _______________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your > own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________________ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: pager@sboyle.com or 877.WYN.SPAM _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From curlybrian@yahoo.com Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:00:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Walker curlybrian@yahoo.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: X-10 Firecracker Interface --0-1804289383-966988841=:25896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Many people have tried to get Firecracker support added to CDJ. It seems that since the cm11a device has 2 way communication it is the developers choice. If you are handy with Visual Basic here is a site with FREE (with credit for commercial use) source code: http://mystware.8m.com/firecraxor/fire.html. I haven't had a chance to play with it but at first glance it certainly looks straight forward. To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:30:45 GMT Subject: [slinkelist] X10 Firecracker Hello, I was wondering if there was a way to get CDJ to send signals through the X10 firecracker. I tried using the cm11a device with no luck. (not 100% sure I set it up correctly) Has anybody done this? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1804289383-966988841=:25896 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Many people have tried to get Firecracker support added to CDJ.  It seems that since the cm11a device has 2 way communication it is the developers choice.  If you are handy with Visual Basic here is a site with FREE (with credit for commercial use) source code: http://mystware.8m.com/firecraxor/fire.html.  I haven't had a chance to play with it but at first glance it certainly looks straight forward.

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Hello, I was wondering if there was a way to get CDJ to send signals through
the X10 firecracker. I tried using the cm11a device with no luck. (not 100%
sure I set it up correctly) Has anybody done this?
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Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1804289383-966988841=:25896-- From dale@theandrens.com Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:40:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:40:58 -0500 From: dale@theandrens.com dale@theandrens.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: [dxs-user] PC sound cards Could someone recommend a source for RME sound cards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colby Boles" To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 2:05 PM Subject: RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > I really recommend the REM Digi96 above all other cards. It's the only card > I know which allows asynchronous full duplex at 96kHz with access to the > full 32 bit data packet. It's also bus mastering PCI and you can use more > than one card (they make 24 channel versions as well). > > http://www.rme-audio.com/english/index.htm > From cboles@nirvis.com Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:42:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:42:41 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards www.sfb.net Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: dxs-user-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:dxs-user-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of dale@theandrens.com > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:41 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com; dxs-user@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > > > Could someone recommend a source for RME sound cards. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colby Boles" > To: ; ; > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 2:05 PM > Subject: RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > > > > I really recommend the REM Digi96 above all other cards. It's the only > card > > I know which allows asynchronous full duplex at 96kHz with access to the > > full 32 bit data packet. It's also bus mastering PCI and you > can use more > > than one card (they make 24 channel versions as well). > > > > http://www.rme-audio.com/english/index.htm > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dxs-user mailing list - dxs-user@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/dxs-user > > From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:00:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:00:52 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] New version of HomeSeer supports the Slink-e There is a new beta version of HomeSeer by Keware that supports the Slink-e for infrared. Not only can you automate your X-10 tasks, you can now automate IR as well. In additon to sending IR, you can also trigger events with the reception of IR. You can also support custom actions with scripts. Check it out at http://www.keware.com. You'll find more on the Beta page. --Mike From dale@theandrens.com Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:58:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:58:13 -0500 From: dale@theandrens.com dale@theandrens.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards Is there a phone number, This web site appears to be offline. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colby Boles" To: ; ; Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 8:42 PM Subject: [slinkelist] RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > www.sfb.net > > Colby > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dxs-user-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:dxs-user-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of dale@theandrens.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:41 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com; dxs-user@nirvis.com > > Subject: Re: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > > > > > > Could someone recommend a source for RME sound cards. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colby Boles" > > To: ; ; > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 2:05 PM > > Subject: RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > > > > > > > I really recommend the REM Digi96 above all other cards. It's the only > > card > > > I know which allows asynchronous full duplex at 96kHz with access to the > > > full 32 bit data packet. It's also bus mastering PCI and you > > can use more > > > than one card (they make 24 channel versions as well). > > > > > > http://www.rme-audio.com/english/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dxs-user mailing list - dxs-user@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/dxs-user > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From cboles@nirvis.com Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:44:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:44:17 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards SFB Electronics P.O.Box 708 1200 AS Hilversum The Netherlands Tel: +31 35 6421717 Fax: +31 35 6834343 the site seems to be up for me... > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of dale@theandrens.com > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 5:58 AM > To: Colby Boles; slinkelist@nirvis.com; dxs-user@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > > > Is there a phone number, This web site appears to be offline. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colby Boles" > To: ; ; > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 8:42 PM > Subject: [slinkelist] RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > > > > www.sfb.net > > > > Colby > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dxs-user-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:dxs-user-admin@nirvis.com]On > > > Behalf Of dale@theandrens.com > > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:41 PM > > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com; dxs-user@nirvis.com > > > Subject: Re: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > > > > > > > > > Could someone recommend a source for RME sound cards. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Colby Boles" > > > To: ; ; > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 2:05 PM > > > Subject: RE: [dxs-user] PC sound cards > > > > > > > > > > I really recommend the REM Digi96 above all other cards. > It's the only > > > card > > > > I know which allows asynchronous full duplex at 96kHz with access to > the > > > > full 32 bit data packet. It's also bus mastering PCI and you > > > can use more > > > > than one card (they make 24 channel versions as well). > > > > > > > > http://www.rme-audio.com/english/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dxs-user mailing list - dxs-user@nirvis.com > > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/dxs-user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From simon@themasons.net Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:59:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:59:37 -0400 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] Creating a two-way IR file? Ok, anyone want to pitch in and help me create a two-way IR file. I followed all of the instructions and got to the point that says what I want to do is "...beyond the scope of this document"! I have an old Emerson remote control for a cable box, I am trying to learn all of the commands and then use them to trigger lighting scenes. I plan to teach each command to my Pronto in the Family Room. Apparently I need to import settings from some xxxxir.cde file. I looked in the Emerson directory and there is no ir file. In fact, I noticed that a lot of the directories I looked in are empty. Did I not get all of the files? Can anyone with more experience walk me through how to do this? Thanks. Simon Mason simon@themasons.net From Rob.Philip@leksak.org Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:59:48 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:59:48 -0700 From: Rob Philip Rob.Philip@leksak.org Subject: [slinkelist] Nakamichi tuner-amp and 2 sony jukeboxes? --=====================_157598384==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I've an older Nakamichi receiver (model RE2) and two Sony jukeboxes (CDP-CX230 & CDP-CX240) that are daisy-chained. The Slink-e box appears to be the answer to controlling them, but I thought I'd ask if anybody has experience with any or all of these devices. Thanks in advance! Rob ---------- Rob Philip PMB 313 40087 Mission Blvd Fremont, CA, 94539 +1.510.593.7187 : Voice ---------- "... so we just hold on fast, acknowledge the past as lessons exquisitely crafted ..." - vienna teng ---------- --=====================_157598384==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I've an older Nakamichi receiver (model RE2) and two Sony jukeboxes (CDP-CX230 & CDP-CX240) that are daisy-chained. The Slink-e box appears to be the answer to controlling them, but I thought I'd ask if anybody has experience with any or all of these devices.

Thanks in advance!

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 --=====================_157598384==_.ALT-- From ron@tugender.com Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:01:29 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:01:29 -0700 From: Ron Tugender ron@tugender.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ pre-installation requirements? I'm a long-time CDJ user, and I'm building up a new machine and readying to install CDJ on it. I notice that the installation instructions still ask that I pre-install SysUpdate.exe (a .DLL updater) and ADO 2.1. On this new system I am running Windows 2000 Pro SP1 and Office 2000 SP1a. From long experience I hate like the dickens to mess with system .DLLs, since I know this is the single biggest cause of OS instability. SO, my question is, are either of these pre-installs needed with my software environment, or have they been made unnecessary because the requisite CDJ components have already been made available by the OS and Office? Thanks, Ron ================================================ Ron Tugender 650-969-0111 ron@tugender.com From sdfine@bellatlantic.net Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:12:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:12:40 -0400 From: Steve Fine sdfine@bellatlantic.net Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0106B.886465C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to use my TV as a monitor for my PC running CDJ. I've tried an = inexpensive VGA to TV converter and had unsatifactory results. Does = anyone have any suggestions or first hand experience with one of these = units? =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0106B.886465C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I want to use my TV as a monitor for my PC running = CDJ. =20 I've tried an inexpensive VGA to TV converter and had unsatifactory=20 results.  Does anyone have any suggestions or first hand experience = with=20 one of these units? 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0106B.886465C0-- From gtang@gtcons.com Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:32:53 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:32:53 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C01055.363EE510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unless you have HDTV or a TV designed to be a computer monitor, you will not be happy with the result. The reason is because TV's resolution is too low to display VGA. -George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Steve Fine Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:13 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter I want to use my TV as a monitor for my PC running CDJ. I've tried an inexpensive VGA to TV converter and had unsatifactory results. Does anyone have any suggestions or first hand experience with one of these units? ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C01055.363EE510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Unless=20 you have HDTV or a TV designed to be a computer monitor, you will not be = happy=20 with the result.  The reason is because TV's resolution is too = low to=20 display VGA.
 
-George
-----Original Message-----
From: = slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Steve=20 Fine
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:13 PM
To:=20 slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV=20 Converter

I want to use my TV as a monitor for my PC running = CDJ.  I've tried an inexpensive VGA to TV converter and had = unsatifactory=20 results.  Does anyone have any suggestions or first hand = experience with=20 one of these units? 
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C01055.363EE510-- From bod@bod.org Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:57:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:57:03 -0700 From: Paul Chambers bod@bod.org Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C01060.F8E78080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While in general I agree with George, if your expectations are not too high it's possible to get something that's not too objectionable. Some caveats, however: a) don't even think about a composite video connection. S-Video is the absolute minimum. b) all TVs are not created equal, and this sort of use will shine a spotlight on any shortcomings your tv may have. Including ones that won't show up when using the set for normal video. If you don't have a pretty good TV set, you won't get acceptable results. c) accept that you'll get better results using lower resolutions. I'd recommend 640x480, but with a good VGA scan converter and a good TV, 800x600 *may* also be O.K. d) The quality of VGA scan converters and the 'TV out' option on graphics cards vary a great deal. One converter manufacturer that seems to engineer good products is AverMedia. Take a look at the AverKey 300, or one of the higher models. The scan converters used by the broadcast industry do a great job, but for the price you'd be better off buying a 'HD-ready' set and driving that with the graphics card directly. e) using a little intelligence in picking system colors can help, too. Try to avoid high-contrast transitions, highly-saturated colors, etc. Video doesn't have anything like the bandwidth of graphics, so fine details and sharp luminance or chrominance changes will appear 'blurred' because they will be bandwidth-limited. Fair warning, even if you get everything just right, you may still be unsatisfied with the results. It's never going to look great, NTSC was never intended to display graphics. If you have an older TV, save your money (or spend more of it to buy an HD-ready set with RGB inputs). Paul -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Tang, George Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:33 PM To: Steve Fine; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter Unless you have HDTV or a TV designed to be a computer monitor, you will not be happy with the result. The reason is because TV's resolution is too low to display VGA. -George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Steve Fine Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:13 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter I want to use my TV as a monitor for my PC running CDJ. I've tried an inexpensive VGA to TV converter and had unsatifactory results. Does anyone have any suggestions or first hand experience with one of these units? ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C01060.F8E78080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
While = in general I=20 agree with George, if your expectations are not too high it's possible = to get=20 something that's not too objectionable. Some caveats,=20 however:
 
a) = don't even think=20 about a composite video connection. S-Video is the absolute=20 minimum.
 
b) all = TVs are not=20 created equal, and this sort of use will shine a spotlight on any = shortcomings=20 your tv may have. Including ones that won't show up when using the set = for=20 normal video. If you don't have a pretty good TV set, you won't get = acceptable=20 results.
 
c) = accept that=20 you'll get better results using lower resolutions. I'd recommend = 640x480, but=20 with a good VGA scan converter and a good TV, 800x600 *may* also be=20 O.K.
 
d) The = quality of=20 VGA scan converters and the 'TV out' option on graphics cards vary a = great deal.=20 One converter manufacturer that seems to engineer good products is = AverMedia.=20 Take a look at the AverKey 300, or one of the higher models. The = scan=20 converters used by the broadcast industry do a great job, but for the = price=20 you'd be better off buying a 'HD-ready' set and driving that with the = graphics=20 card directly.
 
e) = using a little=20 intelligence in picking system colors can help, too. Try to avoid = high-contrast=20 transitions, highly-saturated colors, etc. Video doesn't have anything = like the=20 bandwidth of graphics, so fine details and sharp luminance or = chrominance=20 changes will appear 'blurred' because they will be=20 bandwidth-limited.
 
Fair = warning, even=20 if you get everything just right, you may still be unsatisfied with the = results.=20 It's never going to look great, NTSC was never intended to display = graphics. If=20 you have an older TV, save your money (or spend more of it to buy an = HD-ready=20 set with RGB inputs).
 
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: = slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com=20 [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Tang,=20 George
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:33 PM
To: = Steve=20 Fine; slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] PC to = TV=20 Converter

Unless you have HDTV or a TV designed to be = a=20 computer monitor, you will not be happy with the result.  The = reason is=20 because TV's resolution is too low to display = VGA.
 
-George
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com = [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf=20 Of Steve Fine
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:13=20 PM
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: = [slinkelist] PC to=20 TV Converter

I want to use my TV as a monitor for my PC = running=20 CDJ.  I've tried an inexpensive VGA to TV converter and had=20 unsatifactory results.  Does anyone have any suggestions or = first hand=20 experience with one of these units? =20
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C01060.F8E78080-- From michael@laserle.fi Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:14:20 +0300 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:14:20 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter year ago I tested AverKey 5+ and hooked it up to projection TV via RBG cable, and the picture was wayyy to bad, after 3-4 hours of testing & using it I had one H**l of headache. I returned that and bought Diamond viper 550 displayadapter w/ TV out. And I was in for a BIG suprise, that 20$ addon gave better picture (via s-vhs) than that 1000$ pro converter. Also I tried that V550 on "normal" 25" tv and picture was not very good, though the tv was +10 years old and I used composite video signal 20feet cable made of 3 different bad wires (ones that I would not even use for radio antenna) and passed signal via VCR to TV. But I heard & seen few others trying to use diffent equipment and get different results with same equipment ... So my "professinal" ;) opinion is : do not waste too much money on this, spending 5000$ on vga converter does not guarantee ANY better (or even same) picture that paying 20$ more for displayadapter version with TV out. Because the picture quality is 98% up to your TV and 2% of the conversion. Specially now that DIGI tv is around the corner. Best thing would be to get HDTV, or at least 100Hz tv with s-vhs in. Like some one said TV and VGA tech are totally incompatible: Resolution info : normal vhs signal (VCR) is something like 240 lines, broadcast rez is some 300, s-vhs signal MAX is 400 lines, HDTV is 800 and the super/extra HDTV is 1280. theoreticly cheap tv can be so bad that it only can handle 240 rez and you would not see the difference in normal VCR picture (in resolution, that is). So if you have 1280x1000 rez in winblows youd need 20 television !!!! to display all the pixels in your monitor screen. In conc. Don't think what vga -> tv converter to buy, think what TV to buy. P.S. I did test comp, s-vhs, RBG of the AverKey 5+ and all possible tuning etc. -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| -------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark.Pocock@glenayre.com Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:59:35 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:59:35 -0700 From: Pocock, Mark Mark.Pocock@glenayre.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting artists by last name Hi list Just setting up a system with two new Sony changers (400 and 450), and having lots of fun...in the good sense. After downloading my first set of info from CDDB, however, I noticed some inconsistencies in the format. Some of the artists are listed "first name last name", some "last name, first name", some both. I would prefer to have them all "last name, first name" for ease of sorting. Short of going through each one and manually editing, are there any suggestions of ways to automate the process of standardizing the naming convention? Thanks Mark From Tom.Hammond-Doel@Vixel.com Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:46:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:46:32 -0700 From: Tom Hammond-Doel Tom.Hammond-Doel@Vixel.com Subject: [slinkelist] Audiotron Anyone have any info on the Audiotron from Turtle Beach? Price? When available? Seems pretty nice to be able to access all MP3 data over HPNA (although I would prefer Ethernet). Any comments? Seems like CDJ would interface nicely with this device. http://www.audiotron.net/audiotron.asp From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:08:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:08:10 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting artists by last name You could try asking the CDDB folks to enforce some sort of standards. They have all sorts of guidelines, etc. but I find I have to edit half of what I get from them in some way. I find this particularly true in the track data. I just manually edit in Access when CDJ is shut down. It's easier there because the input methods are a bit more mature and stable. Unless there is consistently wrong stuff, I don't think it can be automated easily. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Pocock, Mark > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:00 PM > To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' > Subject: [slinkelist] Sorting artists by last name > > > Hi list > > Just setting up a system with two new Sony changers (400 and 450), and > having lots of fun...in the good sense. After downloading my first set of > info from CDDB, however, I noticed some inconsistencies in the > format. Some > of the artists are listed "first name last name", some "last name, first > name", some both. I would prefer to have them all "last name, first name" > for ease of sorting. > > Short of going through each one and manually editing, are there any > suggestions of ways to automate the process of standardizing the naming > convention? > > Thanks > > Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From dlaslo@engineer.com Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:16:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:16:00 -0400 From: Dennis Laslo dlaslo@engineer.com Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter Reply to: From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Steve Fine Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:13 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter I want to use my TV as a monitor for my PC running CDJ. I've tried an inexpensive VGA to TV converter and had unsatifactory results. Does = anyone have any suggestions or first hand experience with one of these = units? Yes...I've tried the converters and also have a S-Video output on one of my PC's. I agree with some of the other comments.....it's barely OK. If you can program....you can use some TV-friendly fonts (large) and access the Slink-e server directly through Active-X interfaces. You can then use a wireless keyboard/mouse or an IR remote to access Slink-e directly. I was in the process of doing just that for control of my stereo system. I think I'm going to still use CDJ, however...haven't got that far From max@netscape.com Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:20:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:20:57 -0700 From: Mike Macgirvin max@netscape.com Subject: [slinkelist] Setting up SlinkX control on win98 I've been following the instructions to set up slinkX as a shared DCOM control on win98. When I try to enable it however, the first warning which comes up (from dcomcnfg) says I need to be using "user" based sharing control rather than "share" based (which I've been using previously). I've tried to do this, but am unable to setup any user accounts to share (user database unavailable, try again later). I'm trying to use the user manager in the w98 machine to set up the accounts, and point to the win98 machine as the user manager. It seems likely that I need an NT domain controller on the local net to manage the accounts, as win98 probably doesn't have the necessary OS hooks to provide authentication services beyond allowing you to let two or more people share the box with different profiles. Can somebody either confirm this or point me to how to configure user-based sharing (and get DCOM working) on win98 without requiring an NT server? From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:20:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:20:30 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter That's good to hear. I'm planning such a project as well although I don't have the luxury of S-Video. I am, however, planning on using large text and simple graphics so I may be OK. The only complicated graphics will be album covers but they ought to do OK (I think). I may run them all through PhotoShop's NTSC filter first. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Dennis Laslo > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 5:16 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter > > > Reply to: > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Steve Fine > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:13 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter > > > I want to use my TV as a monitor for my PC running CDJ. I've tried an > inexpensive VGA to TV converter and had unsatifactory results. Does = > anyone have any suggestions or first hand experience with one of these = > units? > > > > Yes...I've tried the converters and also have a S-Video output on > one of my > PC's. I agree with some of the other comments.....it's barely OK. > > If you can program....you can use some TV-friendly fonts (large) > and access > the Slink-e server directly through Active-X interfaces. > > You can then use a wireless keyboard/mouse or an IR remote to > access Slink-e > directly. > > I was in the process of doing just that for control of my stereo system. I > think I'm going to still use CDJ, however...haven't got that far > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From THarris@leasedirect.com Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:32:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:32:50 -0400 From: Harris, Terry THarris@leasedirect.com Subject: [slinkelist] Audiotron I contacted Turtle Beach. Responses: Availability : Keep watching the web site Price : Keep watching the web site How's that for customer service??? The Fresh Gear site listed the AudioTron (http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/products/story/0,3679,2569029,00.html) availability date as "Q 3" and on TV they showed an Ethernet option. They list the price at "Approx. $500". Fresh Gear also showed a Dell device (http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/products/story/0,3679,2595718,00.html) that does the same thing, and stated its price would be $200-$250. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hammond-Doel [mailto:Tom.Hammond-Doel@Vixel.com] Anyone have any info on the Audiotron from Turtle Beach? ********************************************************************** The information transmitted via this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ********************************************************************** From cboles@nirvis.com Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:13:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:13:39 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter I agree with Michael. Check out the Matrox G400 card with the dual outputs. This is great for showing a screen on the TV and one on your monitor at the same time. Each is totally independent in terms of resolution, scan rate, display area, etc. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Michael Holopainen > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:14 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] PC to TV Converter > > > year ago I tested > AverKey 5+ and hooked it up to projection TV via RBG cable, and the > picture was wayyy to bad, after 3-4 hours of testing & using it I had > one H**l of headache. I returned that and bought Diamond viper 550 > displayadapter w/ TV out. > And I was in for a BIG suprise, that 20$ addon gave better picture (via > s-vhs) than that 1000$ pro converter. > > Also I tried that V550 on "normal" 25" tv and picture was not very > good, though the tv was +10 years old and I used composite video signal > 20feet cable made of 3 different bad wires (ones that I would not even > use for radio antenna) and passed signal via VCR to TV. > > But I heard & seen few others trying to use diffent equipment and get > different results with same equipment ... > > So my "professinal" ;) opinion is : do not waste too much money on this, > spending 5000$ on vga converter does not guarantee ANY better (or even > same) picture that paying 20$ more for displayadapter version with TV > out. > Because the picture quality is 98% up to your TV and 2% of the > conversion. > Specially now that DIGI tv is around the corner. > > Best thing would be to get HDTV, or at least 100Hz tv with s-vhs in. > Like some one said TV and VGA tech are totally incompatible: > > Resolution info : > normal vhs signal (VCR) is something like 240 lines, broadcast rez is > some 300, > s-vhs signal MAX is 400 lines, > HDTV is 800 and the super/extra HDTV is 1280. > > theoreticly cheap tv can be so bad that it only can handle 240 rez and > you would not see the difference in normal VCR picture (in resolution, > that is). > So if you have 1280x1000 rez in winblows youd need 20 television !!!! > to display all the pixels in your monitor screen. > > In conc. > Don't think what vga -> tv converter to buy, think what TV to buy. > > > P.S. I did test comp, s-vhs, RBG of the AverKey 5+ and all possible > tuning etc. > > > -- > --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | > | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | > | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From tgillispie@highground.com Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:01:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:01:01 -0400 From: Tom Gillispie tgillispie@highground.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Setting up SlinkX control on win98 Max - I've gotten this to work (on Win95). I remember the dcomcnfg message you mentioned. I had to switch the Win95 system to start using multiple user profiles - but I did all that from the Win95 Control Panel (I think its the "users" applet?). Its been a few months, and I'm using NT (2K) more and more, so I can't give you chapter and verse - but I know it works peer-to-peer - no NT server needed - which seemed to be your main question. By using dcomcnfg and the instructions you mentioned, you are setting "no security" around the slinkx COM component - so no NT server is needed to do the authentication. True, win95/98 can't do that authentication for DCOM, but it won't need to once you follow the instructions and "turn off" security around the slinkx component. Hope that helps. It is really cool when it works. It lets you run CDJ on your "desktop" with SlinkX running on your "server" someplace in the A/V closet or basement. Tom > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:20:57 -0700 > From: max@netscape.com (Mike Macgirvin) > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Setting up SlinkX control on win98 > > > I've been following the instructions to set up slinkX as a shared DCOM > control on win98. When I try to enable it however, the first warning > which comes up (from dcomcnfg) says I need to be using "user" based > sharing control rather than "share" based (which I've been using > previously). I've tried to do this, but am unable to setup any user > accounts to share (user database unavailable, try again later). I'm > trying to use the user manager in the w98 machine to set up the > accounts, and point to the win98 machine as the user manager. > > It seems likely that I need an NT domain controller on the > local net to > manage the accounts, as win98 probably doesn't have the necessary OS > hooks to provide authentication services beyond allowing you > to let two > or more people share the box with different profiles. > > Can somebody either confirm this or point me to how to configure > user-based sharing (and get DCOM working) on win98 without > requiring an > NT server? > > > --__--__-- From veciana_hiram@bah.com Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:00:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:00:17 -0400 From: Veciana Hiram veciana_hiram@bah.com Subject: [slinkelist] Novice question I have just started looking into controlling a CD-changer with a PC and was wondering if one of the "fancy" serial-to-miniplug cables (e.g., s-linke or s-converter) is required to use the PC software. I have a basic serial-to-miniplug cable (not even sure what piece of equipment it came with), and was wondering what would happen if I tried to use CDJ or DiscJockey with it. Thanks for any help. From simonmason@rcn.com Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:29:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:29:34 -0700 From: simonmason@rcn.com simonmason@rcn.com Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech IR It's time for my monthly request for someone to update us on the Xantech to slink-e IR conversion. The wiring on the nirvis web site is beyond me so I am looking for someone to develop something like this and sell it. I am willing to pay (as are others). ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! From dlaslo@engineer.com Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:43:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:43:54 -0400 From: Dennis Laslo dlaslo@engineer.com Subject: [slinkelist] Setting up SlinkX control on win98 I'll second that comment (really cool). I have my Slink-e in the basement and I have a HomeLink(telephone) set up so I can just plug my laptop into any phone outlet and turn on the music, or the lights, etc -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:32 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #366 - 2 msgs Send slinkelist mailing list submissions to slinkelist@nirvis.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to slinkelist-request@nirvis.com You can reach the person managing the list at slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of slinkelist digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Setting up SlinkX control on win98 (Tom Gillispie) 2. Novice question (Veciana Hiram) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Tom Gillispie To: "'slinkelist@nirvis.com'" Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:01:01 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Setting up SlinkX control on win98 Max - I've gotten this to work (on Win95). I remember the dcomcnfg message you mentioned. I had to switch the Win95 system to start using multiple user profiles - but I did all that from the Win95 Control Panel (I think its the "users" applet?). Its been a few months, and I'm using NT (2K) more and more, so I can't give you chapter and verse - but I know it works peer-to-peer - no NT server needed - which seemed to be your main question. By using dcomcnfg and the instructions you mentioned, you are setting "no security" around the slinkx COM component - so no NT server is needed to do the authentication. True, win95/98 can't do that authentication for DCOM, but it won't need to once you follow the instructions and "turn off" security around the slinkx component. Hope that helps. It is really cool when it works. It lets you run CDJ on your "desktop" with SlinkX running on your "server" someplace in the A/V closet or basement. Tom > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:20:57 -0700 > From: max@netscape.com (Mike Macgirvin) > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Setting up SlinkX control on win98 > > > I've been following the instructions to set up slinkX as a shared DCOM > control on win98. When I try to enable it however, the first warning > which comes up (from dcomcnfg) says I need to be using "user" based > sharing control rather than "share" based (which I've been using > previously). I've tried to do this, but am unable to setup any user > accounts to share (user database unavailable, try again later). I'm > trying to use the user manager in the w98 machine to set up the > accounts, and point to the win98 machine as the user manager. > > It seems likely that I need an NT domain controller on the > local net to > manage the accounts, as win98 probably doesn't have the necessary OS > hooks to provide authentication services beyond allowing you > to let two > or more people share the box with different profiles. > > Can somebody either confirm this or point me to how to configure > user-based sharing (and get DCOM working) on win98 without > requiring an > NT server? > > > -- __--__-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Veciana Hiram" To: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:00:17 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [slinkelist] Novice question I have just started looking into controlling a CD-changer with a PC and was wondering if one of the "fancy" serial-to-miniplug cables (e.g., s-linke or s-converter) is required to use the PC software. I have a basic serial-to-miniplug cable (not even sure what piece of equipment it came with), and was wondering what would happen if I tried to use CDJ or DiscJockey with it. Thanks for any help. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist End of slinkelist Digest From thomasdr@us.ibm.com Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:21:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:21:30 -0400 From: thomasdr@us.ibm.com thomasdr@us.ibm.com Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech IR I got stuck on generating the gerber for the completed card, and haven't worked on it since June. This weekend looks like it will be an indoor one (in North Carolina), so I'll get some help and try to finish it up this weekend. Dave Thomas