From DNess@Home.Com Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:53:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:53:02 -0500 From: David Ness DNess@Home.Com Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... ... of `automatically' getting a _try_ at a `Disk Memo' given the Artist/Title of a Disk from the CDDB without other human intervention? I find that the only part of the process that I had to do by hand to get my collection `installed' was to enter `disk memo' names for my disks. I would think that a little programming might at least make a decent 'guess' for me, leaving me in the situation where I only had to correct things if I didn't like the automatically generated `disk memo' character string. From slinkelist@deleons.com Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:44:25 -0800 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:44:25 -0800 From: Arnold de Leon slinkelist@deleons.com Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... Hmm, have you tried it? It's been there are far as I can remember. My CDs have memos on them I certainly didn't type them all. arnold On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 07:53:02PM -0500, David Ness wrote: > ... of `automatically' getting a _try_ at a `Disk Memo' given the > Artist/Title of a Disk from the CDDB without other human intervention? > I find that the only part of the process that I had to do by hand > to get my collection `installed' was to enter `disk memo' names for my > disks. I would think that a little programming might at least make a > decent 'guess' for me, leaving me in the situation where I only had to > correct things if I didn't like the automatically generated `disk > memo' character string. > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- Arnold de Leon WebTV Networks, Inc. arnold@corp.webtv.net 305 Lytton Ave. +1 650 614 5538 Palo Alto, CA 94301 From will@airmail.net Tue, 01 Feb 2000 01:40:16 -0600 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 01:40:16 -0600 From: William Hollingworth will@airmail.net Subject: [slinkelist] Hardcore slink-e ActiveX programming question I'm working on a plugin for WinAmp to allow it to send and receive commands via the slink-e server, much like how the CDJ automation commands work. My aim is to then add WinAmp playlist support into my MiniDisc Manager software. In WinAmp, plugins are implemented as DLLs. My idea was to create a hidden dialog box in my plugin DLL that contained the Slink-e ActiveX control (just like how you would do with a regular application that uses Slink-e). I could then send and receive messages from the Slink-e control and pass them on to WinAmp. I've come across something that I'm not sure what is going on. In my plugin DLL (written in VC++), I can make my dialog box OK and display it when WinAmp loads. However as soon as I add the Slink-e ActiveX control to the dialog resource, it won't load the dialog (.DoModal() returns -1). This also happens if I add any type of ActiveX control. So, my guess is that there is something special about using ActiveX controls in a dialog box created in a DLL. Does anyone know of any such restrictions or have any suggestions? Does anyone know an easy way to load the Slink-e control directly rather than "cheating" and loading as a dialog box control? Thanks Will From caeschlimann@com4u.ch Tue, 01 Feb 2000 13:40:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 13:40:29 +0100 From: Christoph Aeschlimann caeschlimann@com4u.ch Subject: [slinkelist] IR distribution, wireless keyboards, Mouse Emulation Thomas, Thanks a lot for your precise answer. I realized there is some IR noise and I was able to reduce it. I still have to do a couple of tests. Bu= t it seems to be much better since I placed the IR receiver and sender on other positions. Chris > Christoph Aeschlimann posted: > "2) My whole installation is now in one room. In another I have a beam fo= r > TV > and Computer-Screen. For controlling the computer I'm using a airboard > (silitek SK-7100). I send all the commands to a slink IR receiver and fro= m a > slink transmitter to the original airboard receiver. Well, this is workin= g > but when I move the mouse, sometimes the cursor jumps around. And sometim= es > I have to press the key a second time. Has anyone else made some experien= ce > with a similar configuration?" >=20 > There are various problems combining a wireless keyboard with the slinke > and/or with infrared distribution systems. I have been working this prob= lem > for almost a year now. Here's some collected wisdom. >=20 > Typically there is noise in an IR distribution system that interferes wit= h > the essentially continuous IR streams that are produced by the keyboard, > particularly when there is mouse movement. A good way to check for noise= is > to put the IR distribution system's output opposite the slinke's IR senso= r > and see if the slinke activity light glows orange, even when there is > (should be) no IR activity. If the slinke is showing orange, you've got = a > noise problem. >=20 > IR noise often comes from the TV(s) set at the remote location(s). Try > turning off the TV(s) to see if the noise stops. If it does, try moving = the > remote IR sensor(s) away from the TV or shielding it from direct exposure= to > the TV screen. Same procedure for a computer monitor if you have one. I= 've > also heard of fluorescent lights (such as used in a fishtank) producing I= R > noise so check those too. Also, the sensor(s) at the remote locations > should have no direct exposure to sunlight. >=20 > You may ask, if the TV is making the noise, why doesn't the noise prevent > the TV's own IR remote from working? The answer is that IR mouse movemen= ts, > and to a less extent, IR keystrokes, use long IR sequences. E.g. the IR > stream tells the computer when a key goes down, and when the key comes up > again, how fast to move the mouse, when to change directions, etc. Noise= is > far more troublesome to such long, timing sensitive sequences than it is = to > short codes such as are produced by a typical consumer electronics remote > control. >=20 > IR noise can also be produced by RF interference in the power supply to t= he > distribution system or components. I found that I had this problem; even > when everything was turned off and all inputs were disconnected from the > distribution system, I still had noise. I solved this problem with a > RadioShack power supply filter. They are sold for Notebook computers but > also help with other units. >=20 > There is a separate problem as well. Slinke doesn't take kindly to expos= ure > to the kind of continuous IR that is produced by mouse movement on an IR > keyboard. The Slinke tries very hard to decode all IR it is exposed to, = and > can be overwhelmed by the barrage of IR that comes from mouse movement in > particular. >=20 > Of course, you often want to send IR commands to the slinke, e.g. to cont= rol > playlists, etc. If you also want to use the keyboard, you have a catch 2= 2. >=20 > One solution to this problem is to use an RF wireless keyboard instead of > infrared. >=20 > Another solution is to use MousEmu (the Mouse Emulator), the slinkx progr= am > another programmer and I have been developing for some months now, to > control the mouse movements and mouse buttons with slinkx events. This > permits you to use a handheld infrared remote control to move the mouse a= nd > do clicks and drags, which is sufficient for nearly everything you may wa= nt > to do in CDJ. When you use MousEmu to control the mouse, the slinke only > receives occasional discrete IR codes rather than a barrage of IR like a > keyboard or mouse would produce. So, the slinke is much happier. In my > experience, keystrokes at the IR keyboard are not nearly as problematic f= or > the slinke as the mouse movements, so if you can avoid moving the mouse w= ith > the IR keyboard, you will probably be just fine. >=20 > The MousEmu program is being debugged and I will post it at Nirvis when I > think it is done. >=20 >=20 Herzliche Gr=FCsse Christoph Aeschlimann __________________________________________________________________ Christoph Aeschlimann Email: caeschlimann@com4u.ch com-o-tronic ag http://www.com4u.ch Breitistrasse 7B CH-5506 M=E4genwil Tel: +41 62 896 46 28 From caeschlimann@com4u.ch Tue, 01 Feb 2000 13:43:36 +0100 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 13:43:36 +0100 From: Christoph Aeschlimann caeschlimann@com4u.ch Subject: [slinkelist] IR Speaker Switcher Hi I have a lot of equipment together now. This is working in a very nice way. The only thing I'm still looking for is a IR Speaker Switch. Has anybody such a thing? Where can I get it (Shipping to Switzerland!)? I need to switch at least three pairs of speakers. Chris __________________________________________________________________ Christoph Aeschlimann Email: caeschlimann@com4u.ch com-o-tronic ag http://www.com4u.ch Breitistrasse 7B CH-5506 M=E4genwil Tel: +41 62 896 46 28 From shawn@sboyle.com 1 Feb 2000 05:06:35 -0800 Date: 1 Feb 2000 05:06:35 -0800 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] IR Speaker Switcher Here's one: http://www.smarthome.com/8152.html -Shawn On Tue, 01 February 2000, Christoph Aeschlimann wrote: > > Hi > > I have a lot of equipment together now. This is working in a very nice way. > The only thing I'm still looking for is a IR Speaker Switch. Has anybody > such a thing? Where can I get it (Shipping to Switzerland!)? > I need to switch at least three pairs of speakers. > > Chris > > __________________________________________________________________ > Christoph Aeschlimann Email: caeschlimann@com4u.ch > com-o-tronic ag http://www.com4u.ch > Breitistrasse 7B > CH-5506 Mägenwil Tel: +41 62 896 46 28 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________________ Common sense is not common. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: Numeric: 917/296.8405 Alpha: pager@sboyle.com or 800.385.CIBC _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From caeschlimann@com4u.ch Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:32:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:32:31 +0100 From: Christoph Aeschlimann caeschlimann@com4u.ch Subject: [slinkelist] IR Speaker Switcher Shawn Looks great. Are you using this thing? Do I also need to buy the remote control, or can I get a device file for slinke from somewhere? Chris > Here's one: >=20 > http://www.smarthome.com/8152.html >=20 > -Shawn >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 01 February 2000, Christoph Aeschlimann wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Hi >>=20 >> I have a lot of equipment together now. This is working in a very nice w= ay. >> The only thing I'm still looking for is a IR Speaker Switch. Has anybody >> such a thing? Where can I get it (Shipping to Switzerland!)? >> I need to switch at least three pairs of speakers. >>=20 >> Chris >>=20 >> __________________________________________________________________ >> Christoph Aeschlimann Email: caeschlimann@com4u.ch >> com-o-tronic ag http://www.com4u.ch >> Breitistrasse 7B >> CH-5506 M=E4genwil Tel: +41 62 896 46 28 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >> http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From shawn@sboyle.com 1 Feb 2000 05:46:25 -0800 Date: 1 Feb 2000 05:46:25 -0800 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] IR Speaker Switcher Sorry Chris, but living in a 2 Bedroom apt. [it's in New York City so it's smaller than you might think] I, unfortunately, can't justify a $350 speaker switch. It looks like you do need the remote though. Too bad no one I know owns one because it would be much cheaper to just create a device file, rather than buy the remote. -Shawn On Tue, 01 February 2000, Christoph Aeschlimann wrote: > > Shawn > > Looks great. Are you using this thing? Do I also need to buy the remote > control, or can I get a device file for slinke from somewhere? > > Chris > > > Here's one: > > > > http://www.smarthome.com/8152.html > > > > -Shawn > > > > > > On Tue, 01 February 2000, Christoph Aeschlimann wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> I have a lot of equipment together now. This is working in a very nice way. > >> The only thing I'm still looking for is a IR Speaker Switch. Has anybody > >> such a thing? Where can I get it (Shipping to Switzerland!)? > >> I need to switch at least three pairs of speakers. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> __________________________________________________________________ > >> Christoph Aeschlimann Email: caeschlimann@com4u.ch > >> com-o-tronic ag http://www.com4u.ch > >> Breitistrasse 7B > >> CH-5506 Mägenwil Tel: +41 62 896 46 28 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > >> http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________________ Common sense is not common. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: Numeric: 917/296.8405 Alpha: pager@sboyle.com or 800.385.CIBC _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From pfaffman@relax.com Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:26:54 -0600 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:26:54 -0600 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:44:25 -0800, Arnold de Leon said: > Hmm, have you tried it? It's been there are far as I can remember. > My CDs have memos on them I certainly didn't type them all. My slink-e computer is away for repairs, so I can't double-check this behavior (and probably should say nothing) but I noticed that after I edited the memo fields in Access a bunch of them didn't get downloaded. Perhaps Access padded them with spaces & CDJ didn't download them? Or a bug has been introduced in a recent version? Unless you clear all of your memos and re-download them, this would be an easy bug to miss. -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ From DNess@Home.Com Tue, 01 Feb 2000 09:59:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 09:59:09 -0500 From: David Ness DNess@Home.Com Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... Interesting, but CDJ didn't do that for me. All of the data has `arrived' with that field (Disk Memo) blank. The only thing that I can think of that I did that may not be ususal, is to `queue all requests for later' when I scan the Player, and then later I have CDJ do the lookups at once. In any case, the `Disk Memo' field _always_ seems to be blank for me when the data first arrives... Any guesses? Could I have some switch misset somewhere? "Tang, George" wrote: > > The text that is uploaded to the player is the Disk Memo field in the > database. However, if the field is empty, then the Album title is used. > The album title field is filled in automatically by the CDDB process. > > George > From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:04:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:04:06 -0500 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... CDJ will automatically upload the album name (truncated to the right number of characters) if the "Disc Memo" field is blank. This is how CDJ makes a "try" at the Disc Memo. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Ness To: SlinkE List Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... > ... of `automatically' getting a _try_ at a `Disk Memo' given the > Artist/Title of a Disk from the CDDB without other human intervention? > I find that the only part of the process that I had to do by hand > to get my collection `installed' was to enter `disk memo' names for my > disks. I would think that a little programming might at least make a > decent 'guess' for me, leaving me in the situation where I only had to > correct things if I didn't like the automatically generated `disk > memo' character string. > > From gtang@gtcons.com Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:26:24 -0800 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:26:24 -0800 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... David, that is correct, the "Disk Memo" is initially blank. CDJ will use the Album Title when the Disk Memo field is blank. So unless you enter something into the Disk Memo field, the Album Title field is send to the player instead. This allows you to customize what you want to upload to the player by entering what you want the 13 characters to be in the Disk Memo field. So the logic is: Does this disk's Disk Memo field blank? -Yes: Use the Title album field. -No: Use the Disk Memo field. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of David Ness Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:59 AM To: gtang@gtcons.com; SlinkE List Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... Interesting, but CDJ didn't do that for me. All of the data has `arrived' with that field (Disk Memo) blank. The only thing that I can think of that I did that may not be ususal, is to `queue all requests for later' when I scan the Player, and then later I have CDJ do the lookups at once. In any case, the `Disk Memo' field _always_ seems to be blank for me when the data first arrives... Any guesses? Could I have some switch misset somewhere? "Tang, George" wrote: > > The text that is uploaded to the player is the Disk Memo field in the > database. However, if the field is empty, then the Album title is used. > The album title field is filled in automatically by the CDDB process. > > George > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From MRPINKY@prodigy.net Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:46:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:46:59 -0500 From: CHRIS PRICE MRPINKY@prodigy.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Hardcore slink-e ActiveX programming question >I've come across something that I'm not sure what is going on. In my plugin >DLL (written in VC++), I can make my dialog box OK and display it when >WinAmp loads. However as soon as I add the Slink-e ActiveX control to the >dialog resource, it won't load the dialog (.DoModal() returns -1). This >also happens if I add any type of ActiveX control. > >So, my guess is that there is something special about using ActiveX >controls in a dialog box created in a DLL. Does anyone know of any such >restrictions or have any suggestions? > >Does anyone know an easy way to load the Slink-e control directly rather >than "cheating" and loading as a dialog box control? You won't need a dialog box to do what you are trying to do. From MSVC, add the control to your project, and that will cause the wrapper class to be created. You need to make sure that you call CoInitialize and AfxEnableControlContainer when your plug-in is intialized. The wrapper class created by MSVC is a subclass of CWnd and to create one of these correctly, you must call its Create method with a pointer to a valid CWnd parent window (thats where your dialog was previously serving). You can create a simple CWnd object like: CWnd *parent = new CWnd(); parent->CreateEx(NULL,AfxRegisterWndClass(NULL),NULL,NULL,CRect(0,0,2,2), NULL, 0); Normally, window objects aren't visible unless you show them or set up their class or window properties to be visible. That parent window will suffice to be the parent of your control when you call its Create method...since you don't have UI considerations. That's it! You might need to be concerned with threading issues. I'm not sure what the threading model is of the WinAmp plugin architecture. The key is, call CoInitialize on whatever thread you plan to create the control on...and make sure that that thread has a message pump. If you try it on the main thread that WinAmp calls you on, and you see that messages aren't flowing in/out of the control, you can pretty much guess that the thread is not calling Get and DispatchMessage(), so you'll need to create your own thread with a message pump and create your control on its execution. Good Luck! From DNess@Home.Com Tue, 01 Feb 2000 09:59:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 09:59:09 -0500 From: David Ness DNess@Home.Com Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... Interesting, but CDJ didn't do that for me. All of the data has `arrived' with that field (Disk Memo) blank. The only thing that I can think of that I did that may not be ususal, is to `queue all requests for later' when I scan the Player, and then later I have CDJ do the lookups at once. In any case, the `Disk Memo' field _always_ seems to be blank for me when the data first arrives... Any guesses? Could I have some switch misset somewhere? "Tang, George" wrote: > > The text that is uploaded to the player is the Disk Memo field in the > database. However, if the field is empty, then the Album title is used. > The album title field is filled in automatically by the CDDB process. > > George > From slinkelist@deleons.com Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:03:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:03:15 -0800 From: Arnold de Leon slinkelist@deleons.com Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... Hmm, I have a guess on where the problem is. The "Info" screen in CDJ will show a blank memo unless you type something there. The memo field on the *CD Players* is not set by using the library options. The option you want is "Transfer Text". What you want to happen is to transfer text from CDJ to the players. Now, if the memo field is blank in CDJ, CDJ will construct a memo automatically to send to the player. The memo field in CDJ is going to stay blank. If you want to CDJ to use something else for the memo then you type it in the field. Good luck. arnold On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 09:59:09AM -0500, David Ness wrote: > Interesting, but CDJ didn't do that for me. All of the data has > `arrived' with that field (Disk Memo) blank. The only thing that I can > think of that I did that may not be ususal, is to `queue all requests > for later' when I scan the Player, and then later I have CDJ do the > lookups at once. > > In any case, the `Disk Memo' field _always_ seems to be blank for > me when the data first arrives... > > Any guesses? Could I have some switch misset somewhere? > > "Tang, George" wrote: > > > > The text that is uploaded to the player is the Disk Memo field in the > > database. However, if the field is empty, then the Album title is used. > > The album title field is filled in automatically by the CDDB process. > > > > George > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From dale@theandrens.com Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:39:16 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:39:16 -0600 From: Dale Andren dale@theandrens.com Subject: [slinkelist] CM11A This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BF6E43.AF197A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any way to buy a cm11a all by itself, without having to buy one = of the X-10 packages? 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Is there any way to buy a cm11a all by itself, = without having=20 to buy one of the X-10 packages?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BF6E43.AF197A90-- From kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Thu, 03 Feb 2000 11:02:14 PST Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 11:02:14 PST From: Ken Geoffrion kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Fwd: Re: CM11a Controller Device This question is asked a lot -- I don't know why (other than greed) x10.com doesn't address it. Dale, here's the reply I received directly from X10 when I asked it last fall. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Angel Lynne" To: "Ken Geoffrion" Subject: Re: CM11a Controller Device Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:29:05 -0800 Ken: The CM11A (interface module) is included in the ActiveHome Kit (CK11A). You will find the CK11A @ www.x10.com under the heading of Home Automation under products. There are 3 different kits. 1) The CK11A (6 piece starter kit) @ $49.99. 2) The CK11A - delux kit @ $99.95 (12 piece kit) 3) The CK11A-Super Deal @ $149.99 (14 pice kit) Note: all orders placed today have a 12% discount. If you have any questions re: the various kits, products inlcuded, wish to place an order or any other assistance I can provide, please feel free to contact me @ 1/800-675-3044 ext #231 or at angell@x10.com Thank You, Angel L. angell@x10.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Geoffrion To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 12:27 AM Subject: CM11a Controller Device > Angel, > > Hello. Can you please tell me where to find the above device on your web > site? > > Thanks again, > > Ken ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From GeorgeT@concur.com Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:19:00 -0800 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:19:00 -0800 From: George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com Subject: [slinkelist] CM11A This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF6E7B.8660862E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dale, I really doubt it. But you can contact X-10 and see if they do. But at $50 to allow your computer to control any x-10 modules is still a screaming deal. Especially considering how much you paid for SlinkE. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Dale Andren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 10:39 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CM11A Is there any way to buy a cm11a all by itself, without having to buy one of the X-10 packages? Thanks in advance, Dale dale@theandrens.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF6E7B.8660862E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
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I really doubt it.  But you can contact X-10 and see if they do.  But at $50 to allow your computer to control any x-10 modules is still a screaming deal.  Especially considering how much you paid for SlinkE.
 
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Is there any way to buy a cm11a all by itself, without having to buy one of the X-10 packages?
 
Thanks in advance,
Dale
 
 
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01BF6E7B.8660862E-- From judd_pape@attglobal.net Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:49:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:49:57 -0500 From: Judd Pape judd_pape@attglobal.net Subject: [slinkelist] Sony STRDA777ES Device File Hello, Is there a device file for the Sony STRDA777ES Receiver ? Has any one created one. Just received my unit and would like to control it from Slink-e. Thanks in advance..... Judd From shawn@sboyle.com 3 Feb 2000 19:15:08 -0800 Date: 3 Feb 2000 19:15:08 -0800 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] CM11A SmartHome.com sells the CM11a with the IBM ActiveHome software [ http://www.smarthome.com/1140.html ]. However it's $44.95 so I'm not sure if it's worth it. -Shawn On Thu, 03 February 2000, George Tang wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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_______________________________________________________ Common sense is not common. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: Numeric: 917/296.8405 Alpha: pager@sboyle.com or 800.385.CIBC _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From michael@laserle.fi Fri, 04 Feb 2000 08:54:46 +0200 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 08:54:46 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] CM11A x-10 6 piece starter kit 49.99 usd, lucky you americans. In europe similar 6-piece kit costs 240 euro (1 euro = 1 usd approx.) Do they still have that 6-piece "Firecracker" set for new customers 4.90 usd (free + postage) - www.x10.com -> select First Time Customers - No fair :( -michael (A) From Thumphrey@whepatent.com Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:31:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:31:52 -0500 From: Thomas W. Humphrey Thumphrey@whepatent.com Subject: [slinkelist] Disc memos Maybe you have a space or something other than nothing in the "disc memo" field in CDJ. This might happen if you accidentally downloaded blank disc memos from the player to CDJ. Check this out? ----- Original Message ----- From: Arnold de Leon To: David Ness Cc: ; SlinkE List Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... > Hmm, I have a guess on where the problem is. > > The "Info" screen in CDJ will show a blank memo unless you type > something there. > > The memo field on the *CD Players* is not set by using the > library options. > > The option you want is "Transfer Text". What you want to happen > is to transfer text from CDJ to the players. > > Now, if the memo field is blank in CDJ, CDJ will construct a memo > automatically to send to the player. The memo field in CDJ is going > to stay blank. If you want to CDJ to use something else for the > memo then you type it in the field. > > Good luck. > > arnold > > On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 09:59:09AM -0500, David Ness wrote: > > Interesting, but CDJ didn't do that for me. All of the data has > > `arrived' with that field (Disk Memo) blank. The only thing that I can > > think of that I did that may not be ususal, is to `queue all requests > > for later' when I scan the Player, and then later I have CDJ do the > > lookups at once. > > > > In any case, the `Disk Memo' field _always_ seems to be blank for > > me when the data first arrives... > > > > Any guesses? Could I have some switch misset somewhere? > > > > "Tang, George" wrote: > > > > > > The text that is uploaded to the player is the Disk Memo field in the > > > database. However, if the field is empty, then the Album title is used. > > > The album title field is filled in automatically by the CDDB process. > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > From DNess@Home.Com Fri, 04 Feb 2000 15:03:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 15:03:27 -0500 From: David Ness DNess@Home.Com Subject: [slinkelist] Is there some way ... Thanks to all the Posters who explained that while CDJ downloads from CDDB with `blank' in the `Disk Memo' field, it will `upload' to the player with something from the `Title' IF the `Desk Memo' field was blank. I now understand the behavior, though I personally would rather have CDJ make the `guess' explicit, as it would be easier on me to edit it there... Anyway thanks again to those who posted for the information. "Tang, George" wrote: > > The text that is uploaded to the player is the Disk Memo field in the > database. However, if the field is empty, then the Album title is used. > The album title field is filled in automatically by the CDDB process. > > George > From seyoung@kpmg.com Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:51:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:51:26 -0500 From: Young, Steven E seyoung@kpmg.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CD Next Disk Command? Does anybody know the slink code to set the Next Disc on a Sony 200 CD Jukebox? I have some code to control the playlist of albums and when an album is playing i'd like to have the software set the next disc. My only other thought was to have the software send a Play Disc command when it sees the Jukebox starting to switch on its own. Any thoughts? Thanks, Steve ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. ***************************************************************************** From seyoung@kpmg.com Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:02:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:02:37 -0500 From: Young, Steven E seyoung@kpmg.com Subject: [slinkelist] Multi-room Multi-zone Preamps/Amps Does anybody have suggestions on multi-zone amps or preamps that can be computer controlled with rs-232/485 or slink. I don't want to use IR control because i want to be able to poll the status of the system. The only functions I need are source selection for multiple zones and volume control. I wondered if i could use DXS but i don't think the module that controls volume is available. I have seen literature on the Xantech ZPR-something. That looks great but it is a little expensive. Does anyone have experience with the quality of that system? Thanks, Steve ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. ***************************************************************************** From THarris@leasedirect.com Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:37:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:37:42 -0500 From: Harris, Terry THarris@leasedirect.com Subject: [slinkelist] Multi-room Multi-zone Preamps/Amps http://www.smarthome.com/8270.html sells a multi-zone amp by "Kustom" (http://www.kustom.com, but it does not look like it can be controlled via computer. However, the diagram of the back panel shows an "IR Link" port, so theoretically, it can be controlled via the Slinke. Maybe someone out there has experience with this unit... -----Original Message----- From: Young, Steven E [mailto:seyoung@kpmg.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 11:03 AM To: SlinkE List Subject: [slinkelist] Multi-room Multi-zone Preamps/Amps Does anybody have suggestions on multi-zone amps or preamps that can be computer controlled with rs-232/485 or slink. I don't want to use IR control because i want to be able to poll the status of the system. The only functions I need are source selection for multiple zones and volume control. From will@airmail.net Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:44:34 -0600 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:44:34 -0600 From: William Hollingworth will@airmail.net Subject: [slinkelist] MiniDisc Manager / WinAmp plugin beta testers wanted I've done some more updates to MiniDisc Manager that I'd like to have tested before I do the official release. This beta version 0.97 has the following new features: 1. New MD record time remaining indicator (works with all capacities of MD) 2. Fixed bug that caused program to exit if Enter pressed. 3. Added new WinAmp plugin to allow playlists to be recorded from WinAmp to MD: a) Controls WinAmp playlist and transfers the track titles automatically to MD b) Allows the use of WinAmp DSP plugins (equalizer, audio enhancement etc.) c)Works with all types of media supported by WinAmp (MP3, CD, WAV etc.) d) Displays MD record time remaining and % complete for each track. The WinAmp plugin works similarly to the CDJ automation feature in that you can send commands via slink-e directly to WinAmp, and receive responses back. At the moment most of the WinAmp commands have been implemented to control WinAmp, but I will be adding more of the advanced features soon to allow specific MP3 (or whatever) files to be loaded and played in WinAmp. I haven't yet documented all of the commands and responses for this plugin, but if anyone is interested in testing it directly for their own application, please let me know. Will From MrGolden@swbell.net Mon, 07 Feb 2000 17:58:05 -0600 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 17:58:05 -0600 From: Tony Golden MrGolden@swbell.net Subject: [slinkelist] Multi-room Multi-zone Preamps/Amps The Xantech ZPR68-10 would be my first choice. You can find out more at http://www.xantech.com. You're right about it not being cheap, however IMO, it's worth it. Probably more than you need, though. Another company, Vaux Electronics, makes a similar unit, that's controllable via RS232 serial. It's also in the same price range. National Control Devices makes an inexpensive serial-controlled A/V switcher, but you would need one for each zone, and that still doesn't address volume. Here's a link: http://www.controlanything.com/html/asel.htm Niles Audio and Xantech both make volume controls that respond to IR, but I don't know of a manufacturer for a serial-controlled model. You *could* modify the serial switcher, or relay module, to provide volume adjustment, but, depending on how many zones you need, it might not be too much more to go with the ZPR68 -- and it would do a lot more. Tony Golden ----- Original Message ----- From: Young, Steven E To: SlinkE List Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:02 AM Subject: [slinkelist] Multi-room Multi-zone Preamps/Amps > Does anybody have suggestions on multi-zone amps or preamps that can be > computer controlled with rs-232/485 or slink. I don't want to use IR > control because i want to be able to poll the status of the system. > > The only functions I need are source selection for multiple zones and volume > control. > > I wondered if i could use DXS but i don't think the module that controls > volume is available. > > I have seen literature on the Xantech ZPR-something. That looks great but > it is a little expensive. Does anyone have experience with the quality of > that system? > > Thanks, > Steve > **************************************************************************** * > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. > It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else > is unauthorized. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution > or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited > and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice > contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in > the governing KPMG client engagement letter. > **************************************************************************** * > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From MrGolden@swbell.net Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:00:47 -0600 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:00:47 -0600 From: Tony Golden MrGolden@swbell.net Subject: [slinkelist] Multi-room Multi-zone Preamps/Amps The "IR Link" port on the back of the Kustom (and Russound) units is only for passing source commands between two units when they are linked together (for more than six zones). You can't control the actual units themselves through that port. Tony Golden ----- Original Message ----- From: Harris, Terry To: SlinkE List Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:37 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Multi-room Multi-zone Preamps/Amps > http://www.smarthome.com/8270.html sells a multi-zone amp by "Kustom" > (http://www.kustom.com, but it does not look like it can be controlled via > computer. However, the diagram of the back panel shows an "IR Link" port, so > theoretically, it can be controlled via the Slinke. > Maybe someone out there has experience with this unit... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Young, Steven E [mailto:seyoung@kpmg.com] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 11:03 AM > To: SlinkE List > Subject: [slinkelist] Multi-room Multi-zone Preamps/Amps > > > Does anybody have suggestions on multi-zone amps or preamps that can be > computer controlled with rs-232/485 or slink. I don't want to use IR > control because i want to be able to poll the status of the system. > > The only functions I need are source selection for multiple zones and volume > control. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From shaavist@niksula.hut.fi Tue, 8 Feb 2000 04:26:24 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 04:26:24 +0200 From: Sami-Pekka Haavisto shaavist@niksula.hut.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Dead Slink-e, ideas needed... I've had CX-350 and Slink-e working perfectly on Linux with my own little software since September (when I first got the Slink-e). I was just about to release some parts of the software (mainly the generic server module and some IR-stuff, CD-controller still needs some work), but then suddenly the Slink-e died on me. I didn't do anything, settings were not touched and all three devices (computer, Slink-e, CD-changer) were turned on, just like they always are. I don't even boot my machine every month. The Slink-e just didn't react to anything. Disconnecting the cables and recycling power doesn't help. With power on the led is green, and also stays green despite what I do. Commands from serial port, IR with remote and CD-changer on S-Link ports have no (noticeable) effect. My theory is that either something is broken, or something's screwed in the EEPROM settings by accident (I haven't touched them on purpose, so it would be a software bug). If it still works, the IR receiver has to be disabled by default, because it doesn't react to any remote. I've tried changing both bps and port settings to what they should be in case they're messed up in EEPROM, but with no effect. Does anyone have any ideas of what might be wrong and how to correct it? And no, I don't have any kind of native Windows installation, and WINE won't install Windows software (tried it). -sph -- Sami-Pekka Haavisto | "Dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, | dead, dead, dead, dead, dead." sph@iki.fi | www.iki.fi/sph/ <*> | From cboles@nirvis.com Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:28:43 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:28:43 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Dead Slink-e, ideas needed... Try opening the box and pulling the 8 pin IC labelled U10 from its socket and re-appling power to the slink-e. This IC is the serial eeprom, and without it the slink-e will boot using its default settings. If that doesn't work, something more serious may be wrong. Any lightning in your area? Colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Sami-Pekka Haavisto Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 6:26 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Dead Slink-e, ideas needed... I've had CX-350 and Slink-e working perfectly on Linux with my own little software since September (when I first got the Slink-e). I was just about to release some parts of the software (mainly the generic server module and some IR-stuff, CD-controller still needs some work), but then suddenly the Slink-e died on me. I didn't do anything, settings were not touched and all three devices (computer, Slink-e, CD-changer) were turned on, just like they always are. I don't even boot my machine every month. The Slink-e just didn't react to anything. Disconnecting the cables and recycling power doesn't help. With power on the led is green, and also stays green despite what I do. Commands from serial port, IR with remote and CD-changer on S-Link ports have no (noticeable) effect. My theory is that either something is broken, or something's screwed in the EEPROM settings by accident (I haven't touched them on purpose, so it would be a software bug). If it still works, the IR receiver has to be disabled by default, because it doesn't react to any remote. I've tried changing both bps and port settings to what they should be in case they're messed up in EEPROM, but with no effect. Does anyone have any ideas of what might be wrong and how to correct it? And no, I don't have any kind of native Windows installation, and WINE won't install Windows software (tried it). -sph -- Sami-Pekka Haavisto | "Dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, | dead, dead, dead, dead, dead." sph@iki.fi | www.iki.fi/sph/ <*> | _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From shaavist@niksula.hut.fi Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:31:08 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:31:08 +0200 From: Sami-Pekka Haavisto shaavist@niksula.hut.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Dead Slink-e, ideas needed... > Try opening the box and pulling the 8 pin IC labelled U10 from its socket > and re-appling power to the slink-e. This IC is the serial eeprom, and > without it the slink-e will boot using its default settings. That helped, everything works normally again. I've deliberately tried not to touch EEPROM to avoid situations like this, but obviously there was a nasty bug somewhere *grin*. Huge thanks for the fast reply! -sph -- Sami-Pekka Haavisto | "Ivanova is always right. | I will listen to Ivanova. sph@iki.fi | I will not ignore Ivanova's recommendations. www.iki.fi/sph/ <*> | Ivanova is God." From richard@passman.demon.co.uk Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:50:40 +0300 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:50:40 +0300 From: Richard Passman richard@passman.demon.co.uk Subject: Fw: [slinkelist] Multi-room Multi-zone Preamps/Amps Sorry forgot to send this to the list..... > > > > Does anybody have suggestions on multi-zone amps or preamps that can be > > computer controlled with rs-232/485 or slink. I don't want to use IR > > control because i want to be able to poll the status of the system. > > > > The only functions I need are source selection for multiple zones and > volume > > control. > > I have seen literature on the Xantech ZPR-something. That looks great but > > it is a little expensive. Does anyone have experience with the quality of > > that system? > > Steve, > > I have Xantech ZPR68-10 preamp as the hub of my system, and I have found it > to perform faultlessly. The sound quality is pretty good, as good as any mid > level preamp anyway. > > In addition I have upgraded the unit with some revised RS232 control > firmware, that allows better integration into home automation/system > control. One advantage of the unit is that you can just use an IR remote, > great when that new revision of software doesn't quite work and you've got > guests coming...... > > So far I've only found 2 shortcomings :- > > 1) The original RS232 control firmware is not the easiest to work with, BUT > xantech have been keen to help me, and consequently I'm beta testing MOD5 > frimware which is alot better. > 2) There is no 'Paging' function, i.e. switch to input 5 while TTS says who > is calling, but this is reasonably easy to achieve with some PC code. > > Hope that helps.. > > Richard Passman > > p.s. I am in the process of designing a RS485 network module that will do > all this and can be used with other HA systems like, Homevision,Stargate, > HCSII ect > From crose@alltel.net Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:41:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:41:56 -0500 From: Carl J. Rose crose@alltel.net Subject: [slinkelist] Codes for receivers This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0299_01BF7229.8066A760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I run my audio system with 3 receivers. I have read threads that talk = avbout iterating the power toggle on/off button to find the actual on = and off IR codes, but I am not sophisticated enough yet to pull that = off. Could anyone give some on and off codes for the following receivers: Denon AVR 810 PioneerVSX1400S Technics SA GX190 Also, could you please send responses to me directly 'cause I have had = trouble getting list postings. crose@alltel.net Thanks in advance for any help. Carl ------=_NextPart_000_0299_01BF7229.8066A760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I run my audio system with 3 = receivers.  I=20 have read threads that talk avbout iterating the power toggle on/off = button to=20 find the actual on and off IR codes,  but I am not sophisticated = enough yet=20 to pull that off.
 
Could anyone give some on and off codes for the following = receivers:
 
Denon AVR 810
PioneerVSX1400S
Technics SA GX190
 
Also, could you please send responses to me directly 'cause I have = had=20 trouble getting list postings.
 
Thanks in advance for any = help.
Carl
------=_NextPart_000_0299_01BF7229.8066A760-- From Stephanreckie@aol.com Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:17:54 EST Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:17:54 EST From: Stephanreckie@aol.com Stephanreckie@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke / Sony CD Changer CXP-270 / Sony 630 MD Recorder Hi All, I am new to SLINKe, but I have successfully used it to program my 270 CD Changer. I am in the process of buying the 630 MD recorder, and I was wondering if there is any software out there that I can use to easily make my own MDs? Any help would be greatly appreciated... Stephan Reckie 800-538-8641 stephanreckie@aol.com From pkehoe@mediaone.net Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:41:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:41:59 -0500 From: Patrick Kehoe pkehoe@mediaone.net Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems Strange problem with CDDB look-ups. I have two CDs: 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in CDJ. However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same disks. I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and re-searching for them to no avail. I'm at a loss. Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the correct Artist/title information? How do I address this problem? Thanks Patrick From gtang@gtcons.com Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:44:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:44:52 -0800 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke / Sony CD Changer CXP-270 / Sony 630 MD Recorder Go to Nirvis web site www.nirvis.com and click on Download and then click on User Submitted. You'll see software that you can download to do all sorts of stuff with slinke including MD Manager. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Stephanreckie@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 4:18 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke / Sony CD Changer CXP-270 / Sony 630 MD Recorder Hi All, I am new to SLINKe, but I have successfully used it to program my 270 CD Changer. I am in the process of buying the 630 MD recorder, and I was wondering if there is any software out there that I can use to easily make my own MDs? Any help would be greatly appreciated... Stephan Reckie 800-538-8641 stephanreckie@aol.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From gtang@gtcons.com Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:46:46 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:46:46 -0800 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems This issue has been addressed before. Please check the BBS on the Nirvis web site for solutions. The easiest and quickest solution is to just burn a copy of one of the two disks. The copy is slightly different enough for CDJ to recognize it as a different disk. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:42 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems Strange problem with CDDB look-ups. I have two CDs: 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in CDJ. However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same disks. I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and re-searching for them to no avail. I'm at a loss. Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the correct Artist/title information? How do I address this problem? Thanks Patrick _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From shaavist@niksula.hut.fi Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:54:58 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:54:58 +0200 From: Sami-Pekka Haavisto shaavist@niksula.hut.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Some Linux software available for download I have used Slink-e on my Linux machine for almost five months now. I've written some software to control S-Link and IR ports. Most of the software is simply way too crude to be released yet, but I've put something up for downloading. It is written in Python, so in theory it should work on other unix-likes as well. The most important and useful part at the moment is the server module, which makes it possible to have several different clients using Slink-e at the same time and removes the need for accessing serial port directly. It also handles encoding and decoding long messages and some other tasks making developing actual software easier. Another small program in the package at the moment is very simple IR-test software that can repeat received signals. I also have CD controller software in the works, but it still depends heavily on some of my older software and thus won't be available for a while. It works rather well, though, and my automatically updated playlist can be seen on the web all the time (link is on the page). And remember, everything's still pre-alpha quality. I use it myself all the time, but I cannot guarantee that it works on any other machine. But at least the source code gives an example of how to communicate with the Slink-e. And the URL is: http://www.iki.fi/sph/slink/ Mail feedback, ideas, bug reports, contributions etc. directly to me. I'm willing to co-operate on developing comprehensive set of utilities for controlling Slink-e with unixlike machines. -sph -- Sami-Pekka Haavisto | "The avalanche has already started. It is too late | for the pebbles to vote." sph@iki.fi | www.iki.fi/sph/ <*> | From pkehoe@mediaone.net Wed, 09 Feb 2000 12:09:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 12:09:28 -0500 From: Patrick Kehoe pkehoe@mediaone.net Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems George, Thanks for the response. I did find a similar message on the BBS, but the confusing part for me is that CDJ and CDDB will return the correct CD artist/tracks when only one of the two dics are in the player. If both discs are the player, CDJ gets confused. What I don't understand is why can CDJ using CDDB correctly determine an exact match for each CD, yet CDJ thinks they are the same? Is CDJ's unique id not including the same information the CDDB is using? I'm really reluctant to just burn a copy. From my point of view, if I wanted to go through all of that headache, I might as well just RIP my collection to MP3. I choose CDJ because it would be "simpler". Thanks Patrick "Tang, George" wrote: > This issue has been addressed before. Please check the BBS on the Nirvis > web site for solutions. The easiest and quickest solution is to just burn a > copy of one of the two disks. The copy is slightly different enough for CDJ > to recognize it as a different disk. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:42 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > Strange problem with CDDB look-ups. > > I have two CDs: > 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt > 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down > > Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in > CDJ. > > However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the > first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of > the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same > disks. > > I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and > re-searching for them to no avail. I'm at a loss. > > Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the > correct Artist/title information? > > How do I address this problem? > > Thanks > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From GeorgeT@concur.com Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:58:30 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:58:30 -0800 From: George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems Yes, CDJ will only look at the number of tracks and the total time on the disc. So there is a possibility of more than one disc to have the same information. CDDB, however, also looks at the length of each track. Colby and David at Nirvis are aware of this limitation. But I don't know when they will fix this. So far only a handful of disk are having problem. In your case, you'll probably only encounter this once. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:09 AM To: gtang@gtcons.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems George, Thanks for the response. I did find a similar message on the BBS, but the confusing part for me is that CDJ and CDDB will return the correct CD artist/tracks when only one of the two dics are in the player. If both discs are the player, CDJ gets confused. What I don't understand is why can CDJ using CDDB correctly determine an exact match for each CD, yet CDJ thinks they are the same? Is CDJ's unique id not including the same information the CDDB is using? I'm really reluctant to just burn a copy. From my point of view, if I wanted to go through all of that headache, I might as well just RIP my collection to MP3. I choose CDJ because it would be "simpler". Thanks Patrick "Tang, George" wrote: > This issue has been addressed before. Please check the BBS on the Nirvis > web site for solutions. The easiest and quickest solution is to just burn a > copy of one of the two disks. The copy is slightly different enough for CDJ > to recognize it as a different disk. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:42 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > Strange problem with CDDB look-ups. > > I have two CDs: > 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt > 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down > > Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in > CDJ. > > However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the > first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of > the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same > disks. > > I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and > re-searching for them to no avail. I'm at a loss. > > Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the > correct Artist/title information? > > How do I address this problem? > > Thanks > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From pkehoe@mediaone.net Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:12:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:12:50 -0500 From: Patrick Kehoe pkehoe@mediaone.net Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems George, Thank you very much for clearing this up. Colby and/or David, is this on your "to do list" or do I need to find another work around? The reason that I'm concerned is that I've only loaded 1/3 of my CDs in to changers (450 discs so far) and am concerned about buying more changers and having more of these problems. In a previous message, there was mention of using Access to add a Ninth digit to the CDJ id for one of discs in the database as a work around. There was also discussion that this wouldn't work. Opinions? Patrick George Tang wrote: > Yes, CDJ will only look at the number of tracks and the total time on the > disc. So there is a possibility of more than one disc to have the same > information. CDDB, however, also looks at the length of each track. Colby > and David at Nirvis are aware of this limitation. But I don't know when > they will fix this. So far only a handful of disk are having problem. In > your case, you'll probably only encounter this once. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Kehoe [mailto:pkehoe@mediaone.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:09 AM > To: gtang@gtcons.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > George, > > Thanks for the response. I did find a similar message on the BBS, but the > confusing part for me is that CDJ and CDDB will return the correct CD > artist/tracks when only one of the two dics are in the player. If both > discs > are the player, CDJ gets confused. > > What I don't understand is why can CDJ using CDDB correctly determine an > exact > match for each CD, yet CDJ thinks they are the same? Is CDJ's unique id not > including the same information the CDDB is using? > > I'm really reluctant to just burn a copy. From my point of view, if I > wanted to > go through all of that headache, I might as well just RIP my collection to > MP3. > I choose CDJ because it would be "simpler". > > Thanks > > Patrick > > "Tang, George" wrote: > > > This issue has been addressed before. Please check the BBS on the Nirvis > > web site for solutions. The easiest and quickest solution is to just burn > a > > copy of one of the two disks. The copy is slightly different enough for > CDJ > > to recognize it as a different disk. > > > > George > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:42 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > > > Strange problem with CDDB look-ups. > > > > I have two CDs: > > 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt > > 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down > > > > Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in > > CDJ. > > > > However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the > > first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of > > the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same > > disks. > > > > I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and > > re-searching for them to no avail. I'm at a loss. > > > > Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the > > correct Artist/title information? > > > > How do I address this problem? > > > > Thanks > > > > Patrick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From GeorgeT@concur.com Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:15:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:15:37 -0800 From: George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems Colby and David, Since CDJ already knows when there are more than one discs with the same number of tracks and total time, instead of displaying an error, this is where the track length check should go. That way, CDJ doesn't have to do the track length check everytime, only when it is necessary. my 2 cents George -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Kehoe [mailto:pkehoe@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:13 AM To: George Tang; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems George, Thank you very much for clearing this up. Colby and/or David, is this on your "to do list" or do I need to find another work around? The reason that I'm concerned is that I've only loaded 1/3 of my CDs in to changers (450 discs so far) and am concerned about buying more changers and having more of these problems. In a previous message, there was mention of using Access to add a Ninth digit to the CDJ id for one of discs in the database as a work around. There was also discussion that this wouldn't work. Opinions? Patrick George Tang wrote: > Yes, CDJ will only look at the number of tracks and the total time on the > disc. So there is a possibility of more than one disc to have the same > information. CDDB, however, also looks at the length of each track. Colby > and David at Nirvis are aware of this limitation. But I don't know when > they will fix this. So far only a handful of disk are having problem. In > your case, you'll probably only encounter this once. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Kehoe [mailto:pkehoe@mediaone.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:09 AM > To: gtang@gtcons.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > George, > > Thanks for the response. I did find a similar message on the BBS, but the > confusing part for me is that CDJ and CDDB will return the correct CD > artist/tracks when only one of the two dics are in the player. If both > discs > are the player, CDJ gets confused. > > What I don't understand is why can CDJ using CDDB correctly determine an > exact > match for each CD, yet CDJ thinks they are the same? Is CDJ's unique id not > including the same information the CDDB is using? > > I'm really reluctant to just burn a copy. From my point of view, if I > wanted to > go through all of that headache, I might as well just RIP my collection to > MP3. > I choose CDJ because it would be "simpler". > > Thanks > > Patrick > > "Tang, George" wrote: > > > This issue has been addressed before. Please check the BBS on the Nirvis > > web site for solutions. The easiest and quickest solution is to just burn > a > > copy of one of the two disks. The copy is slightly different enough for > CDJ > > to recognize it as a different disk. > > > > George > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:42 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > > > Strange problem with CDDB look-ups. > > > > I have two CDs: > > 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt > > 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down > > > > Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in > > CDJ. > > > > However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the > > first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of > > the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same > > disks. > > > > I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and > > re-searching for them to no avail. I'm at a loss. > > > > Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the > > correct Artist/title information? > > > > How do I address this problem? > > > > Thanks > > > > Patrick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From skurzet@uswest.net Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:00:00 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:00:00 -0800 From: Stan Kurzet skurzet@uswest.net Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems Looks like the erroneous duplicate problem is simmering again. I believe that this is a class of problem that must be addressed by Colby. Clearly, there is something going on with the CDDB algorithm and the fact that different players produce different track and total times for the same disk. Worse, both of these factors appear to be beyond CDJ's control. One thing that may help is an understanding of what correction, if any, can be applied to particular players to see if that will avoid the errors and/or ambiguities. Of course, if the problem lies in a defective CDDB algorithm it could be that there is absolutely nothing that Colby can do about it. As I reported a month ago, I have disks where no two of the 12 tracks on each has anywhere near the same track time, yet these are reported as duplicates. COLBY: It's time for you to jump into this. One thing that may be a way out is this: When CDJ extracts the disk ID per the CDDB algorithm, it should also generate a CDJ ID based on its own algorithm. Then, a disk will not be reported as a duplicate unless both ID's are identical. That may solve the problem, at least in those cases where CDDB reports the data correctly when either one of the disks is installed. In the meantime, I am going to take one of my erroneously reported duplicates, burn it to a blank and add silent track(s) to the copy to throw off both the track count and total time. I'll experiment to see what minimal additions are necessary to force differentiation of the disks. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Kehoe" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > George, > > Thanks for the response. I did find a similar message on the BBS, but the > confusing part for me is that CDJ and CDDB will return the correct CD > artist/tracks when only one of the two dics are in the player. If both discs > are the player, CDJ gets confused. > > What I don't understand is why can CDJ using CDDB correctly determine an exact > match for each CD, yet CDJ thinks they are the same? Is CDJ's unique id not > including the same information the CDDB is using? > > I'm really reluctant to just burn a copy. From my point of view, if I wanted to > go through all of that headache, I might as well just RIP my collection to MP3. > I choose CDJ because it would be "simpler". > > Thanks > > Patrick > > > "Tang, George" wrote: > > > This issue has been addressed before. Please check the BBS on the Nirvis > > web site for solutions. The easiest and quickest solution is to just burn a > > copy of one of the two disks. The copy is slightly different enough for CDJ > > to recognize it as a different disk. > > > > George > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:42 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > > > Strange problem with CDDB look-ups. > > > > I have two CDs: > > 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt > > 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down > > > > Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in > > CDJ. > > > > However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the > > first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of > > the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same > > disks. > > > > I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and > > re-searching for them to no avail. I'm at a loss. > > > > Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the > > correct Artist/title information? > > > > How do I address this problem? > > > > Thanks > > > > Patrick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From cboles@nirvis.com Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:00:17 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:00:17 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems I'm actually working on it right now. Our database is already structured to support multiple IDs (CDJID,CDDBID,etc). I'm coming up with a new non-CDDB CDJID which has mathematical basis that makes it much more unique. Of course, it still won't address having two of the exact same discs... Colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of George Tang Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:16 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems Colby and David, Since CDJ already knows when there are more than one discs with the same number of tracks and total time, instead of displaying an error, this is where the track length check should go. That way, CDJ doesn't have to do the track length check everytime, only when it is necessary. my 2 cents George -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Kehoe [mailto:pkehoe@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:13 AM To: George Tang; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems George, Thank you very much for clearing this up. Colby and/or David, is this on your "to do list" or do I need to find another work around? The reason that I'm concerned is that I've only loaded 1/3 of my CDs in to changers (450 discs so far) and am concerned about buying more changers and having more of these problems. In a previous message, there was mention of using Access to add a Ninth digit to the CDJ id for one of discs in the database as a work around. There was also discussion that this wouldn't work. Opinions? Patrick George Tang wrote: > Yes, CDJ will only look at the number of tracks and the total time on the > disc. So there is a possibility of more than one disc to have the same > information. CDDB, however, also looks at the length of each track. Colby > and David at Nirvis are aware of this limitation. But I don't know when > they will fix this. So far only a handful of disk are having problem. In > your case, you'll probably only encounter this once. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Kehoe [mailto:pkehoe@mediaone.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:09 AM > To: gtang@gtcons.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > George, > > Thanks for the response. I did find a similar message on the BBS, but the > confusing part for me is that CDJ and CDDB will return the correct CD > artist/tracks when only one of the two dics are in the player. If both > discs > are the player, CDJ gets confused. > > What I don't understand is why can CDJ using CDDB correctly determine an > exact > match for each CD, yet CDJ thinks they are the same? Is CDJ's unique id not > including the same information the CDDB is using? > > I'm really reluctant to just burn a copy. From my point of view, if I > wanted to > go through all of that headache, I might as well just RIP my collection to > MP3. > I choose CDJ because it would be "simpler". > > Thanks > > Patrick > > "Tang, George" wrote: > > > This issue has been addressed before. Please check the BBS on the Nirvis > > web site for solutions. The easiest and quickest solution is to just burn > a > > copy of one of the two disks. The copy is slightly different enough for > CDJ > > to recognize it as a different disk. > > > > George > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:42 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > > > Strange problem with CDDB look-ups. > > > > I have two CDs: > > 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt > > 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down > > > > Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in > > CDJ. > > > > However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the > > first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of > > the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same > > disks. > > > > I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and > > re-searching for them to no avail. I'm at a loss. > > > > Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the > > correct Artist/title information? > > > > How do I address this problem? > > > > Thanks > > > > Patrick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From extensis@euronet.nl Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:05:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:05:01 +0100 From: Extensis extensis@euronet.nl Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems Hi Colby, While you are in there ;-) Would you please consider using the Valid Flag in the database to mark if disks are in the player, in stead of changing the player, disk fields to "-1" I've seen a bunch of people requesting this and it would help me a lot as well.... -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Colby Boles Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 8:00 PM To: George Tang; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems I'm actually working on it right now. Our database is already structured to support multiple IDs (CDJID,CDDBID,etc). I'm coming up with a new non-CDDB CDJID which has mathematical basis that makes it much more unique. Of course, it still won't address having two of the exact same discs... Colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of George Tang Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:16 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems Colby and David, Since CDJ already knows when there are more than one discs with the same number of tracks and total time, instead of displaying an error, this is where the track length check should go. That way, CDJ doesn't have to do the track length check everytime, only when it is necessary. my 2 cents George -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Kehoe [mailto:pkehoe@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:13 AM To: George Tang; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems George, Thank you very much for clearing this up. Colby and/or David, is this on your "to do list" or do I need to find another work around? The reason that I'm concerned is that I've only loaded 1/3 of my CDs in to changers (450 discs so far) and am concerned about buying more changers and having more of these problems. In a previous message, there was mention of using Access to add a Ninth digit to the CDJ id for one of discs in the database as a work around. There was also discussion that this wouldn't work. Opinions? Patrick George Tang wrote: > Yes, CDJ will only look at the number of tracks and the total time on the > disc. So there is a possibility of more than one disc to have the same > information. CDDB, however, also looks at the length of each track. Colby > and David at Nirvis are aware of this limitation. But I don't know when > they will fix this. So far only a handful of disk are having problem. In > your case, you'll probably only encounter this once. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Kehoe [mailto:pkehoe@mediaone.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:09 AM > To: gtang@gtcons.com; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > George, > > Thanks for the response. I did find a similar message on the BBS, but the > confusing part for me is that CDJ and CDDB will return the correct CD > artist/tracks when only one of the two dics are in the player. If both > discs > are the player, CDJ gets confused. > > What I don't understand is why can CDJ using CDDB correctly determine an > exact > match for each CD, yet CDJ thinks they are the same? Is CDJ's unique id not > including the same information the CDDB is using? > > I'm really reluctant to just burn a copy. From my point of view, if I > wanted to > go through all of that headache, I might as well just RIP my collection to > MP3. > I choose CDJ because it would be "simpler". > > Thanks > > Patrick > > "Tang, George" wrote: > > > This issue has been addressed before. Please check the BBS on the Nirvis > > web site for solutions. The easiest and quickest solution is to just burn > a > > copy of one of the two disks. The copy is slightly different enough for > CDJ > > to recognize it as a different disk. > > > > George > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:42 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB Lookup problems > > > > Strange problem with CDDB look-ups. > > > > I have two CDs: > > 1) Barenaked Ladies - Stunt > > 2) Cowboy Junkies - Lay it on down > > > > Both return the correct disk information when looked up indvidually in > > CDJ. > > > > However when they are both in my two changers (CX250 and CX350) the > > first disk looked up is correct, but the second takes the identity of > > the first, and then CDJ complains that it can't have two of the same > > disks. > > > > I think I've tried every combination of deleting the disks and > > re-searching for them to no avail. I'm at a loss. > > > > Could CDJ be using the same ID for each disk, yet CDDB returns the > > correct Artist/title information? > > > > How do I address this problem? > > > > Thanks > > > > Patrick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From schnidrig@lucent.com Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:46:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:46:14 -0500 From: Christian Schnidrig schnidrig@lucent.com Subject: [slinkelist] Windows 2000 Hibernation & Slink-e Server This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BF7336.530332D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After I wake up my PC out of hibernation, the Slink-e Server does not longer work and with it of course all applications using it. 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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BF7336.530332D0-- From cullen@badencorp.com Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:54:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:54:54 -0500 From: Cullen Simpson cullen@badencorp.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Does anyone have any experience with using the SLink-e under Linux? I would like to integrate it with a home control automation program under linux called misterhouse. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Cullen -- .--------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Cullen Simpson The 3D Computing Solution | | Badencorp | | 101 Sunnytown Rd, Suite 208 Tel: (407)250-2777 | | Casselberry, Fl 32707 Fax: (407)260-0584 | | www.badencorp.com Email: cullen@badencorp.com | `--------------------------------------------------------------------------' From cboles@socrates.berkeley.edu Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:42:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:42:17 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.berkeley.edu Subject: [slinkelist] New BETA CDJ version to address some issues I've put a new BETA version of CDJ at the location mentioned below for a small group of people to try. I made it the other day to address some issues people were having, including: * Disc with the same CDDB ID which aren't actually duplicates * ability to start playlists via DDE * only have one instance of CDJ running * start playlists from the command line * use the LocationValid parameter in the database to represent missing discs, preserving their "last seen" location. * add fields to the album list to view the new CDJID,CDDBID,SONYID,EXACTID This program uses an new ID key I developed which is much more homogeneously distributed and unique than the CDDB ID. This is BETA software. Make a backup of your library BEFORE running this new version of CDJ as it will make many changes to your library when you save for the first time (tedious too). The new program will still accept old playlist files, so you should have 100% compatibility. I just wanted to post this so that I could give some people a chance to evaluate it. Please give me any feedback you might have. Colby http://www.nirvis.com/download/support/cdjbeta.exe From will@airmail.net Sat, 12 Feb 2000 01:23:45 -0600 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 01:23:45 -0600 From: William Hollingworth will@airmail.net Subject: [slinkelist] MiniDisc Manager V0.97 (990210) available An updated (non-beta) version of my updated MiniDisc Manager software for use with Sony slink MD Recorders is now available for free download from my web site. http://web2.airmail.net/will/ This update, V0.97 (000210), adds the following new features: New: MD record time remaining indicator (works with all capacities of MD) New: Added new WinAmp plugin to allow playlists to be recorded from WinAmp to MD New: ReadMe files in HTML format Fixed: Bug that caused program to exit if Enter pressed. Note: Be sure to unzip the files with an UnZip program that supports long file names! If you can't find the WinAmp Plugin DLL, then be sure to select the "Show All Files" in the Windows Explorer "Folder Options". Regards Will From aue@nirvis.com Sat, 12 Feb 2000 01:43:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 01:43:06 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Help authoring tools Hi Folks, We are about to embark on a project to revamp our on line help. Since there seem to be a bunch of techies out there I thought I'd ask y'all if you knew about any good HTML help authoring tools. Pros/Cons what to look for etc. The basic requirements are it has to be easy to set up and use and easy to set up and use. David Aue Nirvis System From simon@themasons.net Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:35:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:35:27 -0500 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] Qubit touchscreen Check out the Qubit Touchscreen - www.qubit.net. <$400 for a BE OS wireless touchscreen, wireless keyboard, ethernet connection in the base station. All I need to do now is to write an app in BE that communicates with slinkeserv. Imagine walking around the house using this touchscreen anywhere. From pfaffman@relax.com Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:19:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:19:04 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com Subject: [slinkelist] Qubit touchscreen That sounds cool. I'd love to see a VNC client for it; I use VNC to control CDJ from my Linux laptop. It's possible that the Java version would work. If people here somehow have missed VNC, see htp://www.research.uk.att.com/vnc/. Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Simon Mason wrote: > Check out the Qubit Touchscreen - www.qubit.net. <$400 for a BE OS wireless > touchscreen, wireless keyboard, ethernet connection in the base station. > All I need to do now is to write an app in BE that communicates with > slinkeserv. Imagine walking around the house using this touchscreen > anywhere. > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From dhouston1@fuse.net Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:50:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:50:26 -0500 From: Dave Houston dhouston1@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Qubit touchscreen It sounds less cool when you read the fine print. The $400 price tag is with an ISP service contract. The standalone price is expected to be in the $1000 range. On 12 Feb 00, at 9:19, Jay Pfaffman wrote: > That sounds cool. I'd love to see a VNC client for it; I use VNC to > control CDJ from my Linux laptop. It's possible that the Java version > would work. If people here somehow have missed VNC, see > htp://www.research.uk.att.com/vnc/. > > Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com > +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) > http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Simon Mason wrote: > > > Check out the Qubit Touchscreen - www.qubit.net. <$400 for a BE OS > > wireless touchscreen, wireless keyboard, ethernet connection in the > > base station. All I need to do now is to write an app in BE that > > communicates with slinkeserv. Imagine walking around the house > > using this touchscreen anywhere. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist --- Dave Houston http://Commander-X.com From breid@cgo.wave.ca Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:58:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:58:06 -0500 From: Bill Reid breid@cgo.wave.ca Subject: [slinkelist] Qubit touchscreen This is the kind of product I have been dreaming of. However, the right app (IMHO) would be a web site that can control slinkeserv. I am sure this thing would have a browser. Then, when your microwave also has a browser it too can control slinke. Has anyone written any CGIs that talk to slinke? Bill Reid ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Mason To: 'SlinkE List' Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 8:35 AM Subject: [slinkelist] Qubit touchscreen > Check out the Qubit Touchscreen - www.qubit.net. <$400 for a BE OS wireless > touchscreen, wireless keyboard, ethernet connection in the base station. > All I need to do now is to write an app in BE that communicates with > slinkeserv. Imagine walking around the house using this touchscreen > anywhere. > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From Roark7@aol.com Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:07:07 EST Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:07:07 EST From: Roark7@aol.com Roark7@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Qubit touchscreen In a message dated 2/12/2000 07:59:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, breid@cgo.wave.ca writes: > Has anyone written any CGIs that talk to slinke? Actually... yes. I use the Nirvis Slink box with my own automation software to provide full walk-away control for small broadcast FM radio stations. My code manages the entire operation from scheduling music, doing station ID's, automated time-of-day, commercials etc... right down managing and controlling the airchain and transmitter. Two of these stations will shortly be internet-aware and allow the listeners to visit the website to choose the music they want to hear. One is in Southern California and the other in Nevada. For the record, the CGI part is pretty trivial. Anyone with a bit of experience in webserver back-end coding could do it. Jeff From cullen@badencorp.com Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:02:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:02:32 -0500 From: Cullen Simpson cullen@badencorp.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Can anyone tell me how to convert discrete IR codes into something I can use with Slink-e? I have a Mitsubishi TV that I have to hit the input button several times to cycle through all inputs before landing on the right one. I found a file on www.remotecentral.com that listed the discrete codes I would need to go directly to the desired input. However those codes are in hex. Should I simply convert the hex codes to binary and place them in the cde files? Thanks, Cullen -- .--------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Cullen Simpson The 3D Computing Solution | | Badencorp | | 101 Sunnytown Rd, Suite 208 Tel: (407)250-2777 | | Casselberry, Fl 32707 Fax: (407)260-0584 | | www.badencorp.com Email: cullen@badencorp.com | `--------------------------------------------------------------------------' From kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:59:41 PST Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:59:41 PST From: Ken Geoffrion kgeoffrion@hotmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Cullen, I had disabled all the inputs on my set except for VHS and DTV, which is why they're the only two discrete inputs I identified. I don't think there are any discrete commands for format (standard, expand, zoom). Try this as a start: desc=Mitsubishi Device File type=ir carrier=36000.000000 sleep=-230000 zero=300 -900 one=300 -2100 repeat=1 pause=-20000 prefix=11100010 suffix=01 d:test #enable test with binary values entered between brackets (e.g. tv:test[0101000] #general stuff 0101000:ch+ 0100100:ch- 0100010:vol+ 0101010:vol- 1100001:vol+2 1101001:vol-2 0100000:power 0100001:power_on 0101001:power_off 0100101:menu 0101110:input+ ; step through inputs 0101100:input- 0100011:vhs ; discrete inputs 1000111:dtv 0111110:format ; standard, expand, zoom 0000000:1 0001000:2 0000100:3 0001100:4 0000010:5 0001010:6 0000110:7 0001110:8 1000000:9 1001000:0 1000100:1- 1001100:2- 0100110:mute 1111100:display 1111000:last 1010110:turnleft 1011010:turnright #PIP commands 1110111:pip/pop 1111101:pip_source 0111011:pip_position 1111111:pip_exchange 1110011:pip_still # Device File Log -- created 1/1/00 8:42:55 PM ** 0111000:mft_toggle 0111001:mft_on 1000001:Contrast 1101011:Display_Time 1110100:sleep 0000001:video 0000101:audio 0100110:mute 1001000:display_mode 1010011:decrease 1011011:increase ----Original Message Follows---- From: Cullen Simpson Reply-To: cullen@badencorp.com To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:02:32 -0500 Can anyone tell me how to convert discrete IR codes into something I can use with Slink-e? I have a Mitsubishi TV that I have to hit the input button several times to cycle through all inputs before landing on the right one. I found a file on www.remotecentral.com that listed the discrete codes I would need to go directly to the desired input. However those codes are in hex. Should I simply convert the hex codes to binary and place them in the cde files? Thanks, Cullen -- .--------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Cullen Simpson The 3D Computing Solution | | Badencorp | | 101 Sunnytown Rd, Suite 208 Tel: (407)250-2777 | | Casselberry, Fl 32707 Fax: (407)260-0584 | | www.badencorp.com Email: cullen@badencorp.com | ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cullen@badencorp.com Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:26:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:26:34 -0500 From: Cullen Simpson cullen@badencorp.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Thanks Ken, I will give these a try. I saw your earlier posting about disabling the unused inputs, but I have a different model TV and I do not think I can. I have the WS-65903 model. I looked through the menus and could not figure out how to disable them. That is unfortunate since I use a AV/receiver o switch all inputs except the DVD player (using component cables). So, I hate seeing the static on Ant-A and Ant-B as I go through. Also, this set takes a long time relative to other sets I have had to cycle the inputs. Maybe that has something to do with the HDTV circuitry. Anyway, thanks again. Cullen Ken Geoffrion said: > Cullen, > > I had disabled all the inputs on my set except for VHS and DTV, which is why > they're the only two discrete inputs I identified. I don't think there are > any discrete commands for format (standard, expand, zoom). > > Try this as a start: > > desc=Mitsubishi Device File > type=ir > carrier=36000.000000 > sleep=-230000 > zero=300 -900 > one=300 -2100 > repeat=1 > pause=-20000 > > prefix=11100010 > suffix=01 > > d:test #enable test with binary values entered between brackets (e.g. > tv:test[0101000] > > #general stuff > > 0101000:ch+ > 0100100:ch- > 0100010:vol+ > 0101010:vol- > > 1100001:vol+2 > 1101001:vol-2 > > 0100000:power > 0100001:power_on > 0101001:power_off > 0100101:menu > > 0101110:input+ ; step through inputs > 0101100:input- > > 0100011:vhs ; discrete inputs > 1000111:dtv > > 0111110:format ; standard, expand, zoom > > 0000000:1 > 0001000:2 > 0000100:3 > 0001100:4 > 0000010:5 > 0001010:6 > 0000110:7 > 0001110:8 > 1000000:9 > 1001000:0 > 1000100:1- > 1001100:2- > 0100110:mute > 1111100:display > 1111000:last > 1010110:turnleft > 1011010:turnright > > > #PIP commands > 1110111:pip/pop > 1111101:pip_source > 0111011:pip_position > 1111111:pip_exchange > 1110011:pip_still > > # Device File Log -- created 1/1/00 8:42:55 PM ** > 0111000:mft_toggle > 0111001:mft_on > 1000001:Contrast > > 1101011:Display_Time > 1110100:sleep > 0000001:video > 0000101:audio > 0100110:mute > 1001000:display_mode > 1010011:decrease > 1011011:increase > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Cullen Simpson > Reply-To: cullen@badencorp.com > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:02:32 -0500 > > Can anyone tell me how to convert discrete IR codes into something I can use > with Slink-e? I have a Mitsubishi TV that I have to hit the input button > several times to cycle through all inputs before landing on the right one. I > found a file on www.remotecentral.com that listed the discrete codes I would > need to go directly to the desired input. However those codes are in hex. > Should I simply convert the hex codes to binary and place them in the cde > files? > > Thanks, > Cullen > > -- > .--------------------------------------------------------------------------. > | Cullen Simpson The 3D Computing Solution | > | Badencorp | > | 101 Sunnytown Rd, Suite 208 Tel: (407)250-2777 | > | Casselberry, Fl 32707 Fax: (407)260-0584 | > | www.badencorp.com Email: cullen@badencorp.com | > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From pkehoe@mediaone.net Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:30:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:30:13 -0500 From: Patrick Kehoe pkehoe@mediaone.net Subject: [slinkelist] Re: New BETA CDJ version to address some issues - Problems Colby, I was very excited to hear about the new beta CDJ, so I've downloaded it and installed on my Win98 system. When I ask CDJ to "Search for Discs...", after selecting either a single player or single disk, or all players and discs, CDJ brings up the dialog as if it going to do the search, but then crashes with a BugBuddy dump. (I can email or FTP the file to you if you want.) At first I thought the problem was my system as I was getting crashes from SlinkeServ, so I reformatted my drive and installed Windows 2000 Server, then re-installed CDJ. It still crashed, so I created a new database and tried again. Again it still crashed. Looking forward to getting a working version. Patrick From mcody@mindspring.com Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:12:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:12:11 -0500 From: Michael Cody mcody@mindspring.com Subject: [slinkelist] Harmon Kardon Remote and CDJ/Slinke Does anyone know of a way to command CDJ via the programable Harmon Kardon / Madrigal remote. It supposedly can create macros in a windows environment. I wondered if it would be possible to to export my library to it and select tracks for playing that would be sent to my Slinke. From sonnie@casema.net Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:04:25 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:04:25 +0100 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] Re: New BETA CDJ version to address some issues - Problems FYI I have no problems with this what so ever on Windows 98 SE CDJ will crash however if you do a lookup/search through automation and execute it twice, meaning execute another search before the first one was finished.... Jeroen -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 3:30 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: New BETA CDJ version to address some issues - Problems Colby, I was very excited to hear about the new beta CDJ, so I've downloaded it and installed on my Win98 system. When I ask CDJ to "Search for Discs...", after selecting either a single player or single disk, or all players and discs, CDJ brings up the dialog as if it going to do the search, but then crashes with a BugBuddy dump. (I can email or FTP the file to you if you want.) At first I thought the problem was my system as I was getting crashes from SlinkeServ, so I reformatted my drive and installed Windows 2000 Server, then re-installed CDJ. It still crashed, so I created a new database and tried again. Again it still crashed. Looking forward to getting a working version. Patrick _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From GeorgeT@concur.com Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:05:07 -0800 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:05:07 -0800 From: George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com Subject: [slinkelist] Interesting web site I ran across this web site while looking for lyrics. http://www.iaehv.nl/users/kdv/en/cds.htm It seems to be not maintained at all with all sorts of outdated links. But it describes a program called VocalCD which will take a timed formatted lyrics file and scroll the lyrics when the cd is being played. Does anyone used this before and/or know what happened to it? The link to download the program is outdated so I can't get to it. But it would be nice to have this feature either built into CDJ or the Screen saver, or the party GUI interface. Just another thought... George From allahsiz@home.com Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:13:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:13:56 -0800 From: Sinan Karasu allahsiz@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Interesting web site George Tang wrote: > > I ran across this web site while looking for lyrics. > http://www.iaehv.nl/users/kdv/en/cds.htm It seems to be not maintained at > all with all sorts of outdated links. But it describes a program called > VocalCD which will take a timed formatted lyrics file and scroll the lyrics > when the cd is being played. Does anyone used this before and/or know what > happened to it? The link to download the program is outdated so I can't get > to it. But it would be nice to have this feature either built into CDJ or > the Screen saver, or the party GUI interface. > > Just another thought... > George > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist Searching http://www.google.com yielded: http://www.verkerk.nl/~kdv/artists/fboeij.htm Sinan From echarne@acm.org Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:56:13 -0800 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:56:13 -0800 From: Eli Charne echarne@acm.org Subject: [slinkelist] Unrecognized CDs I have about 70 CDs that aren't recognized by CDJ. I'm planning to enter all of the titles/artists for each of the tracks, but want to make sure I don't lose this information (it's a lot of work!) if I move CD's around, or have CDJ reindex all of the CDs. Is it possible to have a "personal CDDB" so that when CDJ to tries to automatically title the discs, it will check this file in addition to the Internet? It would be great if I could enter in all the track/title information, then have CDJ save the info with number of tracks/seconds to a file it could later use to autmatically title these CDs. Otherwise are there other recommended ways to handle this? Thanks, -Eli From michael@laserle.fi Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:55:00 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:55:00 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] Unrecognized CDs If I remember correctly, cdj stores the CD data (Album&track names etc.) when you move the cd's around the player(s) you do not need to connect CDDB at all (unless you add new cd's that have never before been seen by you cdj) . Same of course applies to cd's you manually typed Album&Track data to. Important : Do not DELETE the CD from list just scan the desired (all) players or slots when you have moved cd's around. This is not my are of experties, I'm more of "slap into the player and forget, when player get full; superglue the door shut and buy another player" But it's easy to test move 1 cd to another location. P.S. It is not that CDJ didn't recognise those 70 cd's it coz there was no entry for them in CDDB. -michael Eli Charne wrote: > > I have about 70 CDs that aren't recognized by CDJ. I'm planning to enter > all of the titles/artists for each of the tracks, but want to make sure I > don't lose this information (it's a lot of work!) if I move CD's around, or > have CDJ reindex all of the CDs. > > Is it possible to have a "personal CDDB" so that when CDJ to tries to > automatically title the discs, it will check this file in addition to the > Internet? It would be great if I could enter in all the track/title > information, then have CDJ save the info with number of tracks/seconds to a > file it could later use to autmatically title these CDs. Otherwise are > there other recommended ways to handle this? > > Thanks, > -Eli > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| -------------------------------------------------------------------- From michael@laserle.fi Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:25:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:25:50 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] New FREE killer application: MP3Streamworks go www.xingtech.com -> http://www.xingtech.com/mp3/streamworks/ and fill the form for download (they'll send the license key to the email address you give) With this FREE software you can stream mp3 from Audiocard Line-in to network. It consists of 3 part : 1. The encoder "MP3Live!" takes audiocard Line-in signal converst it to mp3 and sends it to server 2. The Server "Streamworks" listens to defined port for "MP3Live!" signal and patches it to port XXX where ... 3. Streamworks players can listen to it. as I understood it encoder & Server applications can run in the same computer. WHAT it is supposed to do is when you get encoder & server running you can (with Streamworks players) listen to audio coming to servers audio cards line-in from anywhere in the network (local or Wide = internet) I haven't had time to set it up yet, but I'll tell you the result when I get it done. -Lisence expires in 4 or 5 years (who cares, by then this software is obsolete or tinker w/ servers clock) -The free software has some (best) qualities disabled = max sound quality 56Kb/s w/ 22.1Hz sampling (max for ISDN connection) -I would be (after testing) willing to pay good money for the full version IF I COULD FIND A WHERE TO BUY IT.com ;) (I think the max is 256kb/s w/ 90Hz sampling, twice the sound quality of cd's that is ofcource of no use over modem line, but in 200MB/s LAN it would be nice) This & the VNC opens up a whole way to use slinke&cdj You can put the pc with slinke & allthe cdp-cx players to a cabinet, and listen to the cd's &mp3's SIMULTANIOUSLY anywhere on network i.e Have 1 pc in livingroom hooked to you main A/V system and another in bedroom hooked to the stereo in there. You'dd have COMPLETE control over the cdj from either PC and listen to the cd's simoltaniously both (dozen) stereo(through pc) Well, this is not for all but for those of us who have more PC's & stereos than rooms & interest in IT&automation this is gift from God. The server part is also available for LINUX, JEEE !!!! -michael From allahsiz@home.com Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:32:33 -0800 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:32:33 -0800 From: Sinan Karasu allahsiz@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Unrecognized CDs Eli Charne wrote: > > I have about 70 CDs that aren't recognized by CDJ. I'm planning to enter > all of the titles/artists for each of the tracks, but want to make sure I > don't lose this information (it's a lot of work!) if I move CD's around, or > have CDJ reindex all of the CDs. > Just put the CD into your PC CD player and use one of the recommended free CD players at www.cddb.com to submit the info to cddb. That way next time you'll get the info as well as anybody else. CDDB is a community effort. Sinan From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:35:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:35:09 -0500 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Re: New BETA CDJ version to address some issues - Problems In light of these two posts, I would guess that Patrick Kehoe's problem is that he has the timeout period on Slinkx set too short so that he gets multiple Slinkx events from a single IR keypress. Turn off your map and check this out in the Slinke data window in CDJ to see if it might be the problem. Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@alum.mit.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonnie" To: "Patrick Kehoe" ; Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 10:04 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Re: New BETA CDJ version to address some issues - Problems > FYI > > I have no problems with this what so ever on Windows 98 SE > > CDJ will crash however if you do a lookup/search through automation and > execute it twice, meaning execute another search before the first one was > finished.... > > Jeroen > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Patrick Kehoe > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 3:30 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Re: New BETA CDJ version to address some issues - > Problems > > > Colby, > > I was very excited to hear about the new beta CDJ, so I've downloaded it > and installed on my Win98 system. > > When I ask CDJ to "Search for Discs...", after selecting either a single > player or single disk, or all players and discs, CDJ brings up the > dialog as if it going to do the search, but then crashes with a BugBuddy > dump. (I can email or FTP the file to you if you want.) > > At first I thought the problem was my system as I was getting crashes > from SlinkeServ, so I reformatted my drive and installed Windows 2000 > Server, then re-installed CDJ. > > It still crashed, so I created a new database and tried again. Again it > still crashed. > > Looking forward to getting a working version. > > Patrick > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > From alexanders@rocketmail.com Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:48:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:48:32 -0800 (PST) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Scrolling Lyrics and the Party GUI I updated the partyGUI this weekend, and will send it to Colby for distribution when I get a chance. Following addtions: Fixed coverart aspect ratio with the new space from above I added and info box on the right (artist, title, tracks) Fixed number of supported disks (I hope 1500 is enough) At Colby's suggestion I added a groovy dynamic playlist function. (basically, you hit record, and every action is added to a playlist until you hit go) I cleaned up some of the uglier code (built some reusable functions) but may have introduced some stability problems. I will try and check it out this week, and send it on. I tried the scrolling lyrics thing (I just wrote it myself), highlighting word by word as the song played (basically: Pause = tracktime/wordcount for counter = 1 to wordcount Highlight(word) wait Pause Move Next Word next counter I tried some experimentation, but a I have few lyrics, b it kind of stank. c this is not a karioke machine... ===== Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:13:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:13:38 -0500 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Unrecognized CDs Begin Soapbox Mode { If only the "community effort" was more consistent. CDDB shouldn't allow multiple discs that are the same to be cataloged because the user entered data differently. There ought to be some spell checking and consistency checking on submissions. They do have guidelines but I think they should be rules. Too many people don't have a clue. } End Soapbox Mode --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Sinan Karasu > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 11:33 AM > To: Eli Charne > Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Unrecognized CDs > > > Eli Charne wrote: > > > > I have about 70 CDs that aren't recognized by CDJ. I'm > planning to enter > > all of the titles/artists for each of the tracks, but want to > make sure I > > don't lose this information (it's a lot of work!) if I move > CD's around, or > > have CDJ reindex all of the CDs. > > > > Just put the CD into your PC CD player and use one of the recommended > free > CD players at www.cddb.com to submit the info to cddb. That way next > time you'll get the info as well as anybody else. CDDB is a community > effort. > > Sinan > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:24:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:24:14 -0500 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB2 If and when will CDDB support CDDB2? I'm particularly interested in segment support. --Mike From GeorgeT@concur.com Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:28:37 -0800 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:28:37 -0800 From: George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com Subject: [slinkelist] Scrolling Lyrics and the Party GUI >-----Original Message----- >From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On >Behalf Of keith alexander >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 9:49 AM >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com >Subject: [slinkelist] Scrolling Lyrics and the Party GUI > > >I tried the scrolling lyrics thing (I just wrote it >myself), highlighting word by word as the song played >(basically: >Pause = tracktime/wordcount >for counter = 1 to wordcount > Highlight(word) > wait Pause > Move Next Word >next counter > >I tried some experimentation, but a I have few lyrics, >b it kind of stank. c this is not a karioke machine... > >===== >Keith Alexander >alexanders@rocketmail.com > This formula is not going work very well... especially if there's a long musical break in between verses... George From alexanders@rocketmail.com Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:38:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:38:50 -0800 (PST) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Scrolling Lyrics and the Party GUI Sorry, my point exactly. Slightly better would be syllable based, but what a pain, or letter based but still highlight the words. But none of these take into account the breaks. One could try and throw in some formulae but basically I gave up.... KJA Of course you could write a trainer... click a couple of data points in the lyrics during the song, and use the above formula plus the click points..... --- George Tang wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > >Behalf Of keith alexander > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 9:49 AM > >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > >Subject: [slinkelist] Scrolling Lyrics and the > Party GUI > > > > > >I tried the scrolling lyrics thing (I just wrote it > >myself), highlighting word by word as the song > played > >(basically: > >Pause = tracktime/wordcount > >for counter = 1 to wordcount > > Highlight(word) > > wait Pause > > Move Next Word > >next counter > > > >I tried some experimentation, but a I have few > lyrics, > >b it kind of stank. c this is not a karioke > machine... > > > >===== > >Keith Alexander > >alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > > This formula is not going work very well... > especially if there's a long > musical break in between verses... > > George > ===== Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:05:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:05:55 -0500 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB2 Oops, that was supposed to be: If and when will CDJ support CDDB2? I'm particularly interested in segment support. --Mike (red-faced) > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Mike Kropp > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 1:24 PM > To: Slink-e List > Subject: [slinkelist] CDDB2 > > > If and when will CDDB support CDDB2? I'm particularly interested > in segment > support. > > --Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:07:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:07:47 -0500 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Scrolling Lyrics and the Party GUI The whole idea sounds like feature-creep. Don't see the point. > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of keith alexander > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 1:39 PM > To: George Tang; 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Scrolling Lyrics and the Party GUI > > > Sorry, my point exactly. Slightly better would be > syllable based, but what a pain, or letter based but > still highlight the words. But none of these take > into account the breaks. One could try and throw in > some formulae but basically I gave up.... > > KJA > > Of course you could write a trainer... click a couple > of data points in the lyrics during the song, and use > the above formula plus the click points..... > > --- George Tang wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > >Behalf Of keith alexander > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 9:49 AM > > >To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > >Subject: [slinkelist] Scrolling Lyrics and the > > Party GUI > > > > > > > > >I tried the scrolling lyrics thing (I just wrote it > > >myself), highlighting word by word as the song > > played > > >(basically: > > >Pause = tracktime/wordcount > > >for counter = 1 to wordcount > > > Highlight(word) > > > wait Pause > > > Move Next Word > > >next counter > > > > > >I tried some experimentation, but a I have few > > lyrics, > > >b it kind of stank. c this is not a karioke > > machine... > > > > > >===== > > >Keith Alexander > > >alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > > > > > This formula is not going work very well... > > especially if there's a long > > musical break in between verses... > > > > George > > > > ===== > Keith Alexander > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > Fro