From PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Wed, 31 May 2000 21:16:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 21:16:24 -0400 From: PaulMmn PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] connecting two toslink digital outs from two changers together A digital signal is a lot different from the traditional analog signals we grew up with. Analog signals are like streams of water: You can join them together by just pouring them through the same pipe, much like running 2 garden hoses through a 'Y' connector. That's what analog 'Y' connectors do, electrically speaking. Similarly, you can split them with the same 'Y' connector (although, like a stream of water, the split stream is 1/2 of the original (assuming a 50-50 split)). A digital signal, however, is much different. Information is sent as a stream of bits, assembled into blocks or packets. Each block/packet can be compared to a business letter: it has a date and time stamp; a 'send to' address; a 'sent from' address; a body (which contains the data to be sent); and a signature block (which includes error correcting information in some systems), which ends the message. If you wrote your letters on clear plastic, then stacked them on top of each other, you'd be unable to read either of them, because pieces of characters from 1 letter would blend with characters from the other. That's like trying to run 2 digital signals through a fiber "Y" connector. Bad news. In the real world, a digital audio signal is broken into thousands of packets, which are all necessary (if you don't have error correction) to move your audio from point A to point B. Because these packets are constantly flowing, you can't just join two streams together. You'll have packets from one source landing on top of packets from another source, causing loss of -both- signals (because you've mangled the signal). A computer, or Nirvis' DXS, can read signals from multiple sources and switch them to different outputs. Some systems can multiplex multiple digital data streams together on the same wire or fiber. You 'simply' read the packets from 2 or more inputs, and write them to an output. There are lots of things that have to happen-- you have to read from all the inputs fast enough that you don't miss any incoming packets, and write the data fast enough that all of it gets written. It's enough to say that using a fiber "Y" will -not- let you blend 2 digital signals together! --Paul E Musselman PaulMmn@ix.netcom.com From mcody@mindspring.com Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:20:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:20:59 -0400 From: Mike Cody mcody@mindspring.com Subject: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BFCBB3.14A056A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While looking on the Nirvis website - I found a user submitted file that = says it allows the CDJ database info to be exported into a Philips = Pronto remote. Has anyone used this? I would like to know how it works = - do you get a CDJ like interface and allow you to look up artist, song, = info? Create playlists , etc - thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BFCBB3.14A056A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BFCBB3.14A056A0-- From THarris@leasedirect.com Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:31:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:31:01 -0400 From: Harris, Terry THarris@leasedirect.com Subject: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? If you are talking about CDJ2CCF, and you have a 300-disc changer, skip = it. The program does not work for disks 201-300. The program generates a series of screen pages, each with 5 or 6 border-to-border buttons with the artist name and album name. You move = from page to page to select an album. No playlists, no CDJ-type interface, = no lookup.=20 Still useful, if you listen to an album at a time, and have 200 disk changers... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Cody [mailto:mcody@mindspring.com] While looking on the Nirvis website - I found a user submitted file = that says it allows the CDJ database info to be exported into a Philips = Pronto remote.=A0 Has anyone used this?=A0 I would like to know how it works - = do you get a CDJ like interface and allow you to look up artist, song, info? = Create playlists , etc - thanks From mike@cos.agilent.com Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:35:14 -0600 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:35:14 -0600 From: Mike Patterson mike@cos.agilent.com Subject: [slinkelist] Strange MP3 problem Occasionally, when I have MP3s and CDs mixed, CDJ will appear to "freeze" just before playing an MP3. It seems that any kind of activity (clicking on the windows "start" button, for example) will bring it out of this freeze... Even if the activity is unrelated to CDJ! Any ideas? --Mike From MrGolden@swbell.net Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:02:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:02:42 -0500 From: Tony Golden MrGolden@swbell.net Subject: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? I modified CDJ2CCF to accept 300 discs. I can give you a copy if you want -- email me. Tony Golden ----- Original Message ----- From: Harris, Terry To: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:31 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? If you are talking about CDJ2CCF, and you have a 300-disc changer, skip it. The program does not work for disks 201-300. The program generates a series of screen pages, each with 5 or 6 border-to-border buttons with the artist name and album name. You move from page to page to select an album. No playlists, no CDJ-type interface, no lookup. Still useful, if you listen to an album at a time, and have 200 disk changers... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Cody [mailto:mcody@mindspring.com] While looking on the Nirvis website - I found a user submitted file that says it allows the CDJ database info to be exported into a Philips Pronto remote. Has anyone used this? I would like to know how it works - do you get a CDJ like interface and allow you to look up artist, song, info? Create playlists , etc - thanks _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From hieter@caleb.fishkill.ibm.com Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:32:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:32:17 -0400 From: Nate Hieter hieter@caleb.fishkill.ibm.com Subject: [slinkelist] PalmOS solutions Are there any PalmOS programs out there to control CDJ/Slink-e via a handheld? Import the library, manipulate playlists, etc.......... Thanks, Nathaniel Hieter From sonnie@casema.net Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:47:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:47:40 +0200 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? How ? -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Tony Golden Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 5:03 PM To: Slink-e Users List Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? I modified CDJ2CCF to accept 300 discs. I can give you a copy if you want -- email me. Tony Golden ----- Original Message ----- From: Harris, Terry To: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:31 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? If you are talking about CDJ2CCF, and you have a 300-disc changer, skip it. The program does not work for disks 201-300. The program generates a series of screen pages, each with 5 or 6 border-to-border buttons with the artist name and album name. You move from page to page to select an album. No playlists, no CDJ-type interface, no lookup. Still useful, if you listen to an album at a time, and have 200 disk changers... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Cody [mailto:mcody@mindspring.com] While looking on the Nirvis website - I found a user submitted file that says it allows the CDJ database info to be exported into a Philips Pronto remote. Has anyone used this? I would like to know how it works - do you get a CDJ like interface and allow you to look up artist, song, info? Create playlists , etc - thanks _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From alexanders@rocketmail.com Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: GUI - The Party I put together the hardware to test it (thanks though). I need to back out the changes I did to the screen fade (its cool, but it crashes out 95, and has some refresh issues). If my wife lets me (I am working 10+ at my new gig) I will try and post tonight. I will put in on geocities/nurse_alexander. Hopefully by ~10pm est. Sorry for the delay, but all the hamsters are already on the wheel. KJA > Ok, since your post in the Slink-e list broke off, > there was no idea given if you had another version > to try and where to get it from. Also, someone else > responded to your request for help with dual > monitors. > > You mentioned the X-Y positions and there being > configurable now. I assume you want one to place the > Coord's. of the 0,0 position of the second monitor > in that field, which would be some extended > position/extention of the main monitor, right? > > And another thing. If you have a second monitor you > could use for testing, I have a spare PCI 8M video > card that I could send you if that would help? > > ===== Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From MrGolden@swbell.net Thu, 01 Jun 2000 13:28:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 13:28:45 -0500 From: Tony Golden MrGolden@swbell.net Subject: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BFCBCD.4FD72FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quite simply, actually. CDJ2CCF takes the access database and merges it with a "template" for the Pronto, containing the CD players IR commands and 200 "buttons" representing the discs. I merely added an extra 100 buttons to the template. Yeah, I know -- I couldn't believe it worked, either. Conceivably, the same could be done for the new 400-disc changers. To use my file, download and install the CDJ2CCF program from http://www.remotecentral.com/files/dl.cgi?utilities/cdj2ccf.zip, then copy the attached file, master.ccf, to the directory where it is installed, over-writing the original. Tony Golden ----- Original Message ----- From: Sonnie To: Tony Golden ; Slink-e Users List Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? > How ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Tony Golden > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 5:03 PM > To: Slink-e Users List > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? > > > I modified CDJ2CCF to accept 300 discs. I can give you a copy if you > want -- email me. > > Tony Golden > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Harris, Terry > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:31 AM > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Does the Philips Pronto link export song info? > > > If you are talking about CDJ2CCF, and you have a 300-disc changer, skip it. > The program does not work for disks 201-300. > The program generates a series of screen pages, each with 5 or 6 > border-to-border buttons with the artist name and album name. You move from > page to page to select an album. No playlists, no CDJ-type interface, no > lookup. > Still useful, if you listen to an album at a time, and have 200 disk > changers... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Cody [mailto:mcody@mindspring.com] > > > While looking on the Nirvis website - I found a user submitted file that > says it allows the CDJ database info to be exported into a Philips Pronto > remote. Has anyone used this? 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------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BFCBCD.4FD72FE0-- From iancole@earthlink.net Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:58:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:58:50 -0400 From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] FW: Using X-10 FYI - I bought the basic home director kit last week to have a spare cm11a - it was on sale for $28, although they charge shipping - x10.com has free shipping. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Colby Boles To: Slinkelist@Nirvis. Com Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: [slinkelist] FW: Using X-10 > > > You don't wan't the TW523. This won't work. You need a CM11a. You can get > this as part of the IBM Home Director kit which typically sells for $50 at > many places. e.g. www.smarthome.com > > Colby > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeffrey J. Borghoff [mailto:JeffreyJ@Borghoff.com] > > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 4:44 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Cc: colby@nirvis.com; Nirvis Help (David) > > Subject: Using X-10 > > > > > > Ok, I think I get it now? > > > > The Slink-e device does not control X-10 (CM11a). > > > > The Slink-e OCX sends X-10 commands to the Slink-e DCOM server > > which in turn > > sends RS232 to a X-10 Powerline Interface (TW523) connection to a > > PC serial > > port. > > > > I need to get this card and a interface cable, correct > > http://www.x10.com/products/x10_tw523.htm > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeffrey J. Borghoff > > jeffreyj@borghoff.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From slokr@bellsouth.net Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:28:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:28:00 -0400 From: Sally L. Kolitz Russell slokr@bellsouth.net Subject: [slinkelist] Multiple passes when searching discs This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BFCC7D.39E8CE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've searched the archives and the help files, but I haven't been able = to find an answer to this very basic (I think) question: Why does CDJ make multiple (typically 3, but sometimes 2 and sometimes 4 = or more) passes when searching for discs (in either empty, = empty/missing, or tedious modes)? What exactly is it doing, and why does it seem to find certain discs on = the first pass yet find other discs on later passes. Also, why on the = last pass does it usually seem to do nothing physically with the = changers but appears to zip through the discs in the CDJ search status = window? In essence, why can't CDJ find everything it needs to find in a = single pass? If it matters in terms of answering my question, I've got ten CX-300s = connected to one Slink-e, and I'm running the 4/11/00 version (Build = 1841) of CDJ. Thanks for your help, Brent ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BFCC7D.39E8CE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've searched the archives and the help = files, but=20 I haven't been able to find an answer to this very basic (I think)=20 question:
 
Why does CDJ make multiple (typically = 3, but=20 sometimes 2 and sometimes 4 or more) passes when searching for discs (in = either=20 empty, empty/missing, or tedious modes)?
 
What exactly is it doing, and why does = it seem to=20 find certain discs on the first pass yet find other discs on later = passes. =20 Also, why on the last pass does it usually seem to do nothing physically = with=20 the changers but appears to zip through the discs in the CDJ search = status=20 window?  In essence, why can't CDJ find everything it needs to find = in a=20 single pass?
 
If it matters in terms of answering my = question,=20 I've got ten CX-300s connected to one Slink-e, and I'm running the = 4/11/00=20 version (Build 1841) of CDJ.
 
Thanks for your help,
 
Brent
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BFCC7D.39E8CE40-- From m-gotch@home.com Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:25:08 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:25:08 -0000 From: Martin Gotch m-gotch@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) ISA serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? Thank you for any leads Martin Gotch From scott@hicks.net Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:39:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:39:29 -0700 From: Scott F. Hicks scott@hicks.net Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards I've had very good luck with byterunner cards, shared IRQ, etc. http://www.byterunner.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Martin Gotch m-gotch@home.com Sent: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:25:08 -0000 To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10=20 interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) ISA= =20 serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? Tha= nk=20 you for any leads Martin Gotch _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _________________________________________________________________________= __ Visit http://www.visto.com/info, your free web-based communications cente= r. Visto.com. Life on the Dot. From Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:59:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:59:25 -0700 From: Hoen, Dave Dave.Hoen@emulex.com Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards I've been using a SIIG Combo 2 16550 Serial and one 1284 parallel. Over a year without a hitch. One shared interrupt for all three devices. Mine happens to be a PCI card, but they have them for ISA also. Bought mine at Fry's, but their website has good information and retail and online links. Dave Hoen Martin Gotch wrote: > I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 > interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) ISA > serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? Thank > you for any leads > > Martin Gotch > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From ksherwin@videon.wave.ca Fri, 02 Jun 2000 12:07:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 12:07:59 -0500 From: Korey Sherwin ksherwin@videon.wave.ca Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards on 6/2/00 4:25 AM, Martin Gotch at m-gotch@home.com wrote: > I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 > interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) ISA > serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? Thank > you for any leads What about a USB to Serial converter? http://www.ionetworks.com/products/edgeport.html (Not really cheap) That would be the ticket.. If you have USB.. -- Korey Sherwin Sound Art, Canada http://soundart.com From m-gotch@home.com Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:12:26 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:12:26 -0000 From: Martin Gotch m-gotch@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Serial Cards Thanks for the USB advice, but my SLinke machine is an NT server box, so USB is out. (I am an old fashion "ISA bus / jumper setting / RS232'n / plug'nplay & Win98 hating / Novell serv'n" type of guy :^) Thanks. Martin Gotch ---------- From: Pesola, Kenneth D COL DDESB[SMTP:Kenneth.Pesola@HQDA.Army.Mil] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 9:41 AM To: 'Martin Gotch ' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Serial cards If you have a USB port, you can purchase a Belkin port replicator for around $150. This'll give you 2 additive serial ports, one more parallel, and 4 more USB ports. -----Original Message----- From: Martin Gotch To: 'SLINKE Submit' Sent: 6/2/00 5:25 AM Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) ISA serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? Thank you for any leads Martin Gotch _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From Chris_Petersen@NAI.com Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:20:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:20:43 -0700 From: Petersen, Chris (Eng) Chris_Petersen@NAI.com Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards I recently bought one of these USB to Serial converters and had terrible luck with it. In particular, I couldn't get my CM11a to work with it. In fact, the only device I could get working with it was CDJ. However, CDJ was also flaky through this connection. I'm currently not using it. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Korey Sherwin [mailto:ksherwin@videon.wave.ca] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:08 AM To: Martin Gotch; 'SLINKE Submit' Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Serial cards on 6/2/00 4:25 AM, Martin Gotch at m-gotch@home.com wrote: > I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 > interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) ISA > serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? Thank > you for any leads What about a USB to Serial converter? http://www.ionetworks.com/products/edgeport.html (Not really cheap) That would be the ticket.. If you have USB.. -- Korey Sherwin Sound Art, Canada http://soundart.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From cboles@nirvis.com Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:21:05 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:21:05 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Multiple passes when searching discs When CDJ discovers that a disc has moved to a new location, the location where CDJ previously thought that disc to be now becomes "empty". So after one pass through the changers, there may be new spots which need checking. This may occur multiple times. Colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Sally L. Kolitz Russell Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 7:28 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Multiple passes when searching discs I've searched the archives and the help files, but I haven't been able to find an answer to this very basic (I think) question: Why does CDJ make multiple (typically 3, but sometimes 2 and sometimes 4 or more) passes when searching for discs (in either empty, empty/missing, or tedious modes)? What exactly is it doing, and why does it seem to find certain discs on the first pass yet find other discs on later passes. Also, why on the last pass does it usually seem to do nothing physically with the changers but appears to zip through the discs in the CDJ search status window? In essence, why can't CDJ find everything it needs to find in a single pass? If it matters in terms of answering my question, I've got ten CX-300s connected to one Slink-e, and I'm running the 4/11/00 version (Build 1841) of CDJ. Thanks for your help, Brent From cboles@nirvis.com Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:25:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:25:54 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Serial Cards Actually, USB is not out of the question. IONetworks, who makes the Edgeport 2/4/8 serial port to USB adapters, has a NT4 driver stack which allow PnP USB on NT4. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Martin Gotch > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 3:12 AM > To: 'SLINKE Submit' > Subject: [slinkelist] Serial Cards > > > Thanks for the USB advice, but my SLinke machine is an NT server box, so > USB is out. (I am an old fashion "ISA bus / jumper setting / RS232'n / > plug'nplay & Win98 hating / Novell serv'n" type of guy :^) > > Thanks. > > Martin Gotch > > ---------- > From: Pesola, Kenneth D COL > DDESB[SMTP:Kenneth.Pesola@HQDA.Army.Mil] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 9:41 AM > To: 'Martin Gotch ' > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Serial cards > > If you have a USB port, you can purchase a Belkin port replicator for > around > $150. This'll give you 2 additive serial ports, one more parallel, and 4 > more USB ports. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Gotch > To: 'SLINKE Submit' > Sent: 6/2/00 5:25 AM > Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards > > I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 > interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) > ISA > serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? > Thank > you for any leads > > Martin Gotch > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From mk_davis@swbell.net Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:32:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:32:09 -0500 From: Michael Davis mk_davis@swbell.net Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards I have an Edgeport/4 from IONetworks. It does not work well. Slink will not work at all. Functionality with other hardware is spotty at best. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Petersen, Chris (Eng) Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:21 PM To: 'Korey Sherwin'; Martin Gotch; 'SLINKE Submit' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Serial cards I recently bought one of these USB to Serial converters and had terrible luck with it. In particular, I couldn't get my CM11a to work with it. In fact, the only device I could get working with it was CDJ. However, CDJ was also flaky through this connection. I'm currently not using it. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Korey Sherwin [mailto:ksherwin@videon.wave.ca] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:08 AM To: Martin Gotch; 'SLINKE Submit' Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Serial cards on 6/2/00 4:25 AM, Martin Gotch at m-gotch@home.com wrote: > I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 > interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) ISA > serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? Thank > you for any leads What about a USB to Serial converter? http://www.ionetworks.com/products/edgeport.html (Not really cheap) That would be the ticket.. If you have USB.. -- Korey Sherwin Sound Art, Canada http://soundart.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From dhouston1@fuse.net Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:39:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:39:42 -0400 From: Dave Houston dhouston1@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards The CM11A itself works fine with most USB/Serial ports. But, the X-10 ActiveHome software for the CM11A will only work with "standard" ports. On 2 Jun 2000, at 10:20, Petersen, Chris (Eng) wrote: > I recently bought one of these USB to Serial converters and had > terrible luck with it. In particular, I couldn't get my CM11a to work > with it. In fact, the only device I could get working with it was > CDJ. However, CDJ was also flaky through this connection. I'm > currently not using it. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Korey Sherwin [mailto:ksherwin@videon.wave.ca] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:08 AM > To: Martin Gotch; 'SLINKE Submit' > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Serial cards > > > on 6/2/00 4:25 AM, Martin Gotch at m-gotch@home.com wrote: > > > I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a > > X10 interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK > > too) ISA serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" > > (10/11/12) IRQs? > Thank > > you for any leads > > What about a USB to Serial converter? > > http://www.ionetworks.com/products/edgeport.html > > (Not really cheap) > > That would be the ticket.. > > If you have USB.. > -- > Korey Sherwin > Sound Art, Canada > http://soundart.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist --- Dave Houston http://Commander-X.com From sonnie@casema.net Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:35:34 +0200 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:35:34 +0200 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] Playlist_stop Hi Colby (and others) I might be off here, but if I remember correctly (and judging by my app) CDJ used to 'issue' a playlist_stop command when the last track had finished playing. The last beta I downloaded 043000 doesn't seem to do that anymore. Did this change, and if so can we get it back in, or have I lost it and was it never there ;-) Thanks, Jeroen From gtang@gtcons.com Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:57:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:57:25 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards Thanks for that one. I was just cursing myself for ripping out my USB ports off of my Slink-e'd NT4 machine after reading Colby's email regarding IONetworks' NT4 USB stack. I knew it was too good to be true. -G -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Davis Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 11:32 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Serial cards I have an Edgeport/4 from IONetworks. It does not work well. Slink will not work at all. Functionality with other hardware is spotty at best. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Petersen, Chris (Eng) Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:21 PM To: 'Korey Sherwin'; Martin Gotch; 'SLINKE Submit' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Serial cards I recently bought one of these USB to Serial converters and had terrible luck with it. In particular, I couldn't get my CM11a to work with it. In fact, the only device I could get working with it was CDJ. However, CDJ was also flaky through this connection. I'm currently not using it. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Korey Sherwin [mailto:ksherwin@videon.wave.ca] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:08 AM To: Martin Gotch; 'SLINKE Submit' Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Serial cards on 6/2/00 4:25 AM, Martin Gotch at m-gotch@home.com wrote: > I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 > interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) ISA > serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? Thank > you for any leads What about a USB to Serial converter? http://www.ionetworks.com/products/edgeport.html (Not really cheap) That would be the ticket.. If you have USB.. -- Korey Sherwin Sound Art, Canada http://soundart.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From guineau@earthlink.net Fri, 2 Jun 2000 12:35:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 12:35:09 -0700 From: W. John Guineau guineau@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] Serial cards SOunds like the peice of junk I got from Addonics (PCI-4S) 4 port shared IRQ PCI card. Unfortunetly thier drivers are useless (for me) as they do not support WIN32 overlapped I/O (asynchronous I/O). The thing doesn't even work with HyperTerminal! How can Addonics ship such junk? ;) I just placed an order with ByteRunner for a 4port ISA card, 4x16650 and shared IRQ. I've heard good things about Byte Runner in the past. We'll see. I ordered the Model: TC-400-S6-4. I spoke with a very nice (and seemingly knowledgeable) tech support guy at byte Runner who says this card should work, shared IRQ and all, under Windows 2000 out of the box (no driver's needed from Byte Runner). Any one have experience with this card under NT/2000? john > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Tang, George > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 11:57 AM > To: Michael Davis; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Serial cards > > > Thanks for that one. I was just cursing myself for ripping out > my USB ports > off of my Slink-e'd NT4 machine after reading Colby's email regarding > IONetworks' NT4 USB stack. I knew it was too good to be true. > > -G > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Michael Davis > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 11:32 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Serial cards > > > I have an Edgeport/4 from IONetworks. It does not work well. Slink will > not work at all. Functionality with other hardware is spotty at best. > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Petersen, Chris (Eng) > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:21 PM > To: 'Korey Sherwin'; Martin Gotch; 'SLINKE Submit' > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Serial cards > > > I recently bought one of these USB to Serial converters and had terrible > luck with it. In particular, I couldn't get my CM11a to work with it. In > fact, the only device I could get working with it was CDJ. > However, CDJ was > also flaky through this connection. I'm currently not using it. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Korey Sherwin [mailto:ksherwin@videon.wave.ca] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:08 AM > To: Martin Gotch; 'SLINKE Submit' > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Serial cards > > > on 6/2/00 4:25 AM, Martin Gotch at m-gotch@home.com wrote: > > > I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 > > interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be > OK too) ISA > > serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? > Thank > > you for any leads > > What about a USB to Serial converter? > > http://www.ionetworks.com/products/edgeport.html > > (Not really cheap) > > That would be the ticket.. > > If you have USB.. > -- > Korey Sherwin > Sound Art, Canada > http://soundart.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From mg-engineering@home.com Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:09:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:09:54 -0000 From: Martin Gotch mg-engineering@home.com Subject: FW: [slinkelist] Serial Cards I guess I will have to venture out to Fry's (my stomach is allready=20 starting to hurttt). I didn't mention that I liked NT server, but it is=20 nice for the slinke, X10 & other non critical home automation stuff that = I=20 want to run for more than a few days between bootings. The Netware = server=20 (a 6+ yr old 486) is my "real" file server (NEVER has crashed, unlike my = MicroSoft W95/98 boxes which taunt me daily!! ). ---------- From: John Shankland[SMTP:sci4all@yahoo.com] Reply To: John Shankland Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 2:27 PM To: Martin Gotch Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Serial Cards Martin, Friday, June 02, 2000, 3:12:26 AM, you wrote: MG> Thanks for the USB advice, but my SLinke machine is an NT server = box,=20 so MG> USB is out. (I am an old fashion "ISA bus / jumper setting / = RS232'n / =0D MG> plug'nplay & Win98 hating / Novell serv'n" type of guy :^) Novell serv'n on an NT server hmm? When I need ann extra IO board I just went down to my local electronics store. -- =AE=BF=AE=AC John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From gtang@gtcons.com Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:29:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:29:43 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] Serial Cards Agreed... I'm so happy that I can just leave CDJ running on my NT4 machin= e without having to reboot. I reboot that machine maybe once or twice a month. -G -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Martin Gotch Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 8:10 AM To: 'SLINKE Submit' Subject: FW: [slinkelist] Serial Cards I guess I will have to venture out to Fry's (my stomach is allready starting to hurttt). I didn't mention that I liked NT server, but it is nice for the slinke, X10 & other non critical home automation stuff that = I want to run for more than a few days between bootings. The Netware server (a 6+ yr old 486) is my "real" file server (NEVER has crashed, unlike my MicroSoft W95/98 boxes which taunt me daily!! ). ---------- From: John Shankland[SMTP:sci4all@yahoo.com] Reply To: John Shankland Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 2:27 PM To: Martin Gotch Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Serial Cards Martin, Friday, June 02, 2000, 3:12:26 AM, you wrote: MG> Thanks for the USB advice, but my SLinke machine is an NT server box, so MG> USB is out. (I am an old fashion "ISA bus / jumper setting / RS232'n= / MG> plug'nplay & Win98 hating / Novell serv'n" type of guy :^) Novell serv'n on an NT server hmm? When I need ann extra IO board I just went down to my local electronics store. -- =AE=BF=AE=AC John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From simon@themasons.net Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:20:43 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:20:43 -0400 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] Playlist default paths Here are two enhancement requests (or someone is going to point out that I am an idiot and they already exist!) 1. Way to specify default path for playlist save and load. Every time I click on save playlist (it does remember if you don't close CDJ) it defaults to My Documents and I have the playlists saved in a directory under Nirvis. 2. Remember name of current playlist when saving. Currently it does not default to anything, you have to then specify it, and it prompts to overwrite which should not happen as it is the same file. Simon Mason simon@themasons.net From rbrocaw@flash.net Sat, 03 Jun 2000 10:25:24 -0600 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 10:25:24 -0600 From: rbrocaw rbrocaw@flash.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards Martin Gotch wrote... >I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 >interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) >ISA >serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? >Thank >you for any leads I don't know where you are located, but here in electronics poor Denver I have to mail order most everything. I've had good luck with stuff from Dalco (www.dalco.com) They sell a couple of IO boards that should fit your bill. Their 4-port serial ISA card sells for $48.50. >I guess I will have to venture out to Fry's (my stomach is allready >starting to hurttt). I didn't mention that I liked NT server, but it is >nice for the slinke, X10 & other non critical home automation stuff that >I want to run for more than a few days between bootings. The Netware >server (a 6+ yr old 486) is my "real" file server (NEVER has crashed, >unlike my MicroSoft W95/98 boxes which taunt me daily!! ). Interesting... I'm running a server machine here that does network, time, printer and file services using Windows 98 Second edition... I reboot it every two or three weeks just on general principles, but it has never crashed on its own... From rbrocaw@flash.net Sat, 03 Jun 2000 10:27:42 -0600 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 10:27:42 -0600 From: rbrocaw rbrocaw@flash.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial Ports Chris Petersen wrote... >I recently bought one of these USB to Serial converters and had terrible >luck with it. In particular, I couldn't get my CM11a to work with it. In >fact, the only device I could get working with it was CDJ. However, CDJ was >also flaky through this connection. I'm currently not using it. My experience with USB is similar. I bought a "hub" with one serial and one parallel port on it. The serial port has never functioned properly. The parallel port is OK though. From rpourzia@autoiii.com Sat, 03 Jun 2000 09:46:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 09:46:14 -0700 From: Reza Pourzia rpourzia@autoiii.com Subject: [slinkelist] Lyrics Colby, Are lyrics supposed to be working on the 5/22 version? It seems to attempt to get the lyrics from a remote server but nothing seems to download and there are no error messages. What's the scoop? --Reza From bkolitz@bellsouth.net Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:07:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:07:46 -0400 From: Brent P. Kolitz bkolitz@bellsouth.net Subject: [slinkelist] "Identical" discs are not identical This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFCD6D.7965B060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have approximately 20 discs that in various combinations were = identified by CDJ as being identical, even though none of them are. The vast majority of them are 1-track CDs, but no two of them have the same track/total times. In many cases, they're not even close -- for = example, CDJ identified a 1-track interview CD (approximately 35 minutes in = length) as identical to a 1-track song CD (approximately 4 minutes in length). Moreover, if I take pairs of discs that CDJ claims are identical and put = them in my CD-ROM drive, RealJukebox queries CDDB, which does not find = these discs to be the same. Can anyone explain what is going on here, and what my options are? I = thought that CDJ creates a unique ID based on # of tracks, track time, and total time... Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFCD6D.7965B060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have approximately 20 discs that in = various=20 combinations were identified
by CDJ as being identical, even though = none of=20 them are.  The vast
majority of them are 1-track CDs, but no two = of them=20 have the same
track/total times.  In many cases, they're not = even close=20 -- for example,
CDJ identified a 1-track interview CD (approximately = 35=20 minutes in length)
as identical to a 1-track song CD (approximately 4 = minutes=20 in length).
 
Moreover, if I take pairs of discs that = CDJ claims=20 are identical and put them in my CD-ROM drive, RealJukebox queries CDDB, = which=20 does not find these discs to be the same.

Can anyone explain what = is=20 going on here, and what my options are?  I thought
that CDJ = creates a=20 unique ID based on # of tracks, track time, and = total
time...
 
Thanks

------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFCD6D.7965B060-- From jrcmphs1@bellsouth.net Sat, 3 Jun 2000 14:03:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 14:03:39 -0500 From: Jayson R. Chitwood jrcmphs1@bellsouth.net Subject: [slinkelist] Lyrics Lyrics do seem to work....sometimes..... I have found that if you select a single CD to retrieve lyrics & then click off of that CD, then click back on it, you will see the lyrics (if any downloaded).....guess it isn't fully operational yet........ J Chitwood ----- Original Message ----- From: Reza Pourzia To: Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 11:46 AM Subject: [slinkelist] Lyrics > Colby, > > Are lyrics supposed to be working on the 5/22 version? It seems to attempt > to get the lyrics from a remote server but nothing seems to download and > there are no error messages. What's the scoop? > --Reza > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From mypeter@bigfoot.com Sun, 4 Jun 2000 02:12:20 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 02:12:20 -0700 From: Peter Myers mypeter@bigfoot.com Subject: [slinkelist] DXS/DAC, ADC This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFCDCA.50707B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just ordered 2 cx450's and am thinking about the DXS to switch these and = my 2 350's and puter. Can you hear any popping or other noises when it = switches? Any suggestions on DAC/ADC's to use in conjunction with it? Maybe a = great sounding one for the main audio room and some decent cheaper ones = for my other audio zones. (I live in an stereo/analog world with no = super duper digi in gear.) Do I remember Nirvis alluding to some future DXS modules that handle = DA/AD conversion? Any idea on when we might see these? ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFCDCA.50707B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just ordered 2 cx450's and am thinking = about the=20 DXS to switch these and my 2 350's and puter.  Can you hear any = popping or=20 other noises when it switches?
 
Any suggestions on DAC/ADC's to use in = conjunction=20 with it?  Maybe a great sounding one for the main audio room and = some=20 decent cheaper ones for my other audio zones.  (I live in an = stereo/analog=20 world with no super duper digi in gear.)
 
Do I remember Nirvis alluding to some = future DXS=20 modules that handle DA/AD conversion?  Any idea on when we might = see=20 these?
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFCDCA.50707B60-- From mypeter@bigfoot.com Sun, 4 Jun 2000 02:23:34 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 02:23:34 -0700 From: Peter Myers mypeter@bigfoot.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ feature suggestions This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BFCDCB.E25464A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User defined utility library columns. Columns in library that = peripheral information could be added, like who disc has been loaned to, = or who owns disc when collections are mixed. Forced track order. Song A is always followed by song B/Song B is = always preceded by song A. Be great for shuffle play when those pieces = come up that span multiple tracks or morph into one another. Multiple simultaneous player control. Allow Player A to be played in = zone 1, while B is played in zone 2 etc. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BFCDCB.E25464A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
User defined utility library = columns.  Columns=20 in library that peripheral information could be added, like who disc has = been=20 loaned to, or who owns disc when collections are mixed.
 
Forced track order.  Song A = is always=20 followed by song B/Song B is always preceded by song A.  Be great = for=20 shuffle play when those pieces come up that span multiple tracks or = morph into=20 one another.
 
Multiple simultaneous player = control.  Allow=20 Player A to be played in zone 1, while B is played in zone 2=20 etc.
------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BFCDCB.E25464A0-- From simon@themasons.net Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:37:44 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:37:44 -0400 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards I use a Cyclades board. It was reviewed in Home Automator mag a while back. They said it worked flawlessly, I bought one, and it did. Never had a problem with it. Provides 8 serial ports, one shared IRQ. A little pricey, but it took me 10 mins to install and I haven't looked back. If I tell you how much time I messed around with SIIG serial boards, USB hubs etc. then you will appreciate that this board is well worth the price. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of rbrocaw Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 12:25 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards Martin Gotch wrote... >I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 >interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) >ISA >serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? >Thank >you for any leads I don't know where you are located, but here in electronics poor Denver I have to mail order most everything. I've had good luck with stuff from Dalco (www.dalco.com) They sell a couple of IO boards that should fit your bill. Their 4-port serial ISA card sells for $48.50. >I guess I will have to venture out to Fry's (my stomach is allready >starting to hurttt). I didn't mention that I liked NT server, but it is >nice for the slinke, X10 & other non critical home automation stuff that >I want to run for more than a few days between bootings. The Netware >server (a 6+ yr old 486) is my "real" file server (NEVER has crashed, >unlike my MicroSoft W95/98 boxes which taunt me daily!! ). Interesting... I'm running a server machine here that does network, time, printer and file services using Windows 98 Second edition... I reboot it every two or three weeks just on general principles, but it has never crashed on its own... _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From iancole@earthlink.net Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:56:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:56:27 -0400 From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards Thanks for the info... Which model did you purchase? Where did you purchase it? Cost? Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Mason To: Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards > I use a Cyclades board. It was reviewed in Home Automator mag a while back. > They said it worked flawlessly, I bought one, and it did. Never had a > problem with it. Provides 8 serial ports, one shared IRQ. A little pricey, > but it took me 10 mins to install and I haven't looked back. If I tell you > how much time I messed around with SIIG serial boards, USB hubs etc. then > you will appreciate that this board is well worth the price. > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of rbrocaw > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 12:25 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards > > > Martin Gotch wrote... > > >I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 > > >interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) > >ISA > >serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? > >Thank > >you for any leads > > I don't know where you are located, but here in electronics poor Denver > I have to mail order most everything. I've had good luck with stuff > from Dalco > (www.dalco.com) They sell a couple of IO boards that should fit your > bill. > Their 4-port serial ISA card sells for $48.50. > > >I guess I will have to venture out to Fry's (my stomach is allready > >starting to hurttt). I didn't mention that I liked NT server, but it is > > >nice for the slinke, X10 & other non critical home automation stuff > that > >I want to run for more than a few days between bootings. The Netware > >server (a 6+ yr old 486) is my "real" file server (NEVER has crashed, > >unlike my MicroSoft W95/98 boxes which taunt me daily!! ). > > Interesting... I'm running a server machine here that does network, > time, > printer and file services using Windows 98 Second edition... I reboot it > > every two or three weeks just on general principles, but it has never > crashed on its own... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From simon@themasons.net Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:14:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:14:02 -0400 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards I think it was an 8-YO, and I didn't get the PCI version. Check out this link for the info: http://www.cyclades.com/dat-y.html It was $300 in June of 1998. In my Quicken register it shows as purchased from Auto Home whoever that is. I think it might have been the author of the Home Automator article. They list $359 as the price now. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Ian Cole Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:56 AM To: simon@themasons.net; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards Thanks for the info... Which model did you purchase? Where did you purchase it? Cost? Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Mason To: Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards > I use a Cyclades board. It was reviewed in Home Automator mag a while back. > They said it worked flawlessly, I bought one, and it did. Never had a > problem with it. Provides 8 serial ports, one shared IRQ. A little pricey, > but it took me 10 mins to install and I haven't looked back. If I tell you > how much time I messed around with SIIG serial boards, USB hubs etc. then > you will appreciate that this board is well worth the price. > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of rbrocaw > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 12:25 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards > > > Martin Gotch wrote... > > >I have ran out of serial ports on my Slink-e machine to add a CM11a X10 > > >interface. Any recommendations for a cheap 3 port (2 might be OK too) > >ISA > >serial card (mail order/internet) that allows "high" (10/11/12) IRQs? > >Thank > >you for any leads > > I don't know where you are located, but here in electronics poor Denver > I have to mail order most everything. I've had good luck with stuff > from Dalco > (www.dalco.com) They sell a couple of IO boards that should fit your > bill. > Their 4-port serial ISA card sells for $48.50. > > >I guess I will have to venture out to Fry's (my stomach is allready > >starting to hurttt). I didn't mention that I liked NT server, but it is > > >nice for the slinke, X10 & other non critical home automation stuff > that > >I want to run for more than a few days between bootings. The Netware > >server (a 6+ yr old 486) is my "real" file server (NEVER has crashed, > >unlike my MicroSoft W95/98 boxes which taunt me daily!! ). > > Interesting... I'm running a server machine here that does network, > time, > printer and file services using Windows 98 Second edition... I reboot it > > every two or three weeks just on general principles, but it has never > crashed on its own... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From evanr@alum.mit.edu Sun, 4 Jun 2000 16:29:55 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 16:29:55 -0700 From: Evan Robinson evanr@alum.mit.edu Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards Entrega (Xircom) makes a single USB-to-DB9 serial converter that can be had mail order for under $50. No experience with it, but here's the info: http://www.xircom.com/cda/page/0,1298,1_1-55,00.html From wraywest@cris.com Sun, 04 Jun 2000 21:43:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 21:43:25 -0400 From: Wray West wraywest@cris.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Serial cards I've used this with Win 98 and W2K with good, reliable results on both. Do get the latest drivers from the Xircom web site. -Wray At 04:29 PM 6/4/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Entrega (Xircom) makes a single USB-to-DB9 serial converter that can be had >mail order for under $50. > >No experience with it, but here's the info: > >http://www.xircom.com/cda/page/0,1298,1_1-55,00.html From alexanders@rocketmail.com Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:02:31 -0700 (PDT) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] Plea for VB help I am struggling with the requested mod to PartyGUI (support for multiple screens). VB does not return the actual screen dimensions from Screen.Height and Screen.Width it returns the values for the main screen, not the current screen. Also Form.Height does not seem to be properly displaying the actual height and width of the form when it is maximized (this is strange behavior). Basically getting these sizing parms to work is holding up an improved version of PartyGUI. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks, KJA ===== Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:33:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:33:32 -0400 From: Mike Kropp mkropp@cathouse.mv.com Subject: [slinkelist] Plea for VB help I'm not a VB person but do know that you can access the Windows API from VB. Use it to get what you need. The GetSystemMetrics, SystemParametersInfo, GetWindowRect, and GetClientRect APIs should do the trick. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of keith alexander > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:03 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Plea for VB help > > > I am struggling with the requested mod to PartyGUI > (support for multiple screens). VB does not return > the actual screen dimensions from Screen.Height and > Screen.Width it returns the values for the main > screen, not the current screen. Also Form.Height does > not seem to be properly displaying the actual height > and width of the form when it is maximized (this is > strange behavior). > > Basically getting these sizing parms to work is > holding up an improved version of PartyGUI. Anyone > have any thoughts? > > Thanks, > KJA > > ===== > Keith Alexander > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From michael@laserle.fi Tue, 06 Jun 2000 10:55:55 +0300 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 10:55:55 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] HW review: Sony STR-DB930 I was living in dark noisy analog world, until yesterday I received my new amp and stepped into the light.;) Sony STR-DB930 Great price, great sound quality, great in all the way. - 3 TOS in - 1 TOS out - 1 coax in - 4 s-vhs in 1 out (or was it even 2) - Sound quality to match ES series - independent switching of audio / video sources - renaming of input caption - Multi zone !!! - Good DSP (surroundsound) looks great, I know more when I get audiocard with TOSlink (RME Digi96/8) Important things for CDJ users : 1. the TOS inputs are not locked to predetermined input source (like LD or DVD with Video input) 2. you can edit input source text on display (like "TV/LD" -> "CD2") 3. You can program combinations of A/V sources = (like when I switch to "CD1" (formerly known as "MD/DAT") it switches Video signal to VCR2[where I did connect video out from my PC]) So far only thing bad is the 2-way remote (though it doubles as "all in one" remote and displays album/track text from CDP-players) - Ugly - Display wayyy too small - otherwise too big - 2-WAY IR need constant line-of-sigth to amp - keeps turning the display off (like the amp, I hope it can be adjusted somewhere) - stupid logic, you need to press something to turn the display on and them you see what it is that you did. --michael (A) --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| -------------------------------------------------------------------- From tedsmith@microsoft.com Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:31:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:31:28 -0700 From: Ted Smith tedsmith@microsoft.com Subject: [slinkelist] Plea for VB help In fact, you probably want to use the "API Text Viewer", which is under the "Visual Studio 6.0 Tools" menu on my system. (The actual program name on my system is "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools\Winapi\APILOAD.EXE".) Anyway it lets you select any of the Win32 API structures/routines and produces VB declarations for you to copy into your VB source, here are the results for the routines Mike mentioned: Public Declare Function GetSystemMetrics Lib "user32" Alias "GetSystemMetrics" (ByVal nIndex As Long) As Long Public Declare Function SystemParametersInfo Lib "user32" Alias "SystemParametersInfoA" (ByVal uAction As Long, ByVal uParam As Long, ByRef lpvParam As Any, ByVal fuWinIni As Long) As Long Public Declare Function GetWindowRect Lib "user32" Alias "GetWindowRect" (ByVal hwnd As Long, lpRect As RECT) As Long Public Declare Function GetClientRect Lib "user32" Alias "GetClientRect" (ByVal hwnd As Long, lpRect As RECT) As Long Public Type RECT Left As Long Top As Long Right As Long Bottom As Long End Type -Ted -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kropp [mailto:mkropp@cathouse.mv.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:34 AM To: keith alexander; Slink-e List Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Plea for VB help I'm not a VB person but do know that you can access the Windows API from VB. Use it to get what you need. The GetSystemMetrics, SystemParametersInfo, GetWindowRect, and GetClientRect APIs should do the trick. --Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of keith alexander > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:03 AM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Plea for VB help > > > I am struggling with the requested mod to PartyGUI > (support for multiple screens). VB does not return > the actual screen dimensions from Screen.Height and > Screen.Width it returns the values for the main > screen, not the current screen. Also Form.Height does > not seem to be properly displaying the actual height > and width of the form when it is maximized (this is > strange behavior). > > Basically getting these sizing parms to work is > holding up an improved version of PartyGUI. Anyone > have any thoughts? > > Thanks, > KJA > > ===== > Keith Alexander > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From mcody@mindspring.com Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:10:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:10:03 -0400 From: Mike Cody mcody@mindspring.com Subject: [slinkelist] where can I find an IR serial port adapter? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BFD068.8BE24020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am going to install CDJ onto a Libretto laptop to use as a remote and = want to find a wireless way to connect to the=20 slinke. I need a wireless serial port, sender and reciever. I know = such a thing exists from threads I have seen here. Anyone know 1. where = to get one and 2. how do they work? Thanks - mcody@Mindspring.com ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BFD068.8BE24020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BFD068.8BE24020-- From rich@staff.ihug.co.nz Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:35:40 +1200 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:35:40 +1200 From: RMS rich@staff.ihug.co.nz Subject: [slinkelist] Automation from application? What device file do i need to add to get the commands fron cdj in my own application. Im already using the cdjr: responces in the map file, but I need to get them into my own application to get the track names etc appearing on an LCD display.. From Neil@neils.net Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:19:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:19:50 -0400 From: Neil Cunningham Neil@neils.net Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke from web I'm working on a web page to control my system through slink-e. I've added the "runat=3Dserver" but Slinkeserv starts on whatever system I = call the page from instead of the server where the slink-e and web server are. Can this run as server side? =20 If anyone has a small piece of code that shows how to make this work I would greatly appreciate it if you could share. I tried taking the TV (html) sample and adding the runat=3Dserver to the alx file but got the same result. =20 Thanks, Neil From cato@usa.net Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:38:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:38:22 -0400 From: Steve Cato cato@usa.net Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke from web Here are the files I got to work as a test of X10 control over the web. Similar should work for controlling CDJ or sending IR commands etc. The time part just shows that ASP is running OK. Three files are needed default.asp (set as the default page for the server), respond.asp and global.asa. Most of the code was derived by simplifying a couple of examples on the user download page. Hope it helps. default.asp+++++++++++++++++

Hello, the time is <% = Time %>

Testing C1
On
Off
respond.asp++++++++++++++ <% x = Request.Form("C1")%>
<% Dim oSlinkx Set oSlinkx=Session("oSlinkx") If x = "ON" then Response.Write "Turning C1 On" oSlinkx.SendEx("x10:On[c2]") Else Response.Write "Turning C1 Off" oSlinkx.SendEx("x10:Off[c2]") End If %> global.asa++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ At 09:19 PM 6/12/2000 -0400, Neil Cunningham wrote: >I'm working on a web page to control my system through slink-e. I've >added the "runat=server" but Slinkeserv starts on whatever system I call >the page from instead of the server where the slink-e and web server >are. Can this run as server side? > >If anyone has a small piece of code that shows how to make this work I >would greatly appreciate it if you could share. I tried taking the TV >(html) sample and adding the runat=server to the alx file but got the >same result. > >Thanks, >Neil > > >_______________________________________________ >slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From cboles@socrates.berkeley.edu Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:54:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:54:28 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.berkeley.edu Subject: [slinkelist] The 6/12 beta version - 400-disc support The 6/12 version is on the site in the beta download area now. It has support for 400-disc changers. Colby From michael@laserle.fi Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:23:32 +0300 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:23:32 +0300 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] How can I... How to rig cx350 as megachanger master conrolling slave cxXXX player without it interfering slinke-CDJ operation ? Can I just link 1 slink cable from each play to slinke-box and one cable _______ |cx350 |o-------o ______ |master| |Slinke| |______|o | | | o|______| _______ | | |slave |o | |cx | | |______|o-------J Or does this cause someshort of feedback or echo ? Or do I just connect one slink cable from slave to CX350(mega master) and another from cx350 to slinke_box ? What I want to do is use the horrible 2-way-"toy"-remote to control both (all) players while the pc is turned off and still be able to control them via CDJ without any clitch. Also is there anyway to use the x-fade on megachanger in CDJ ? One more question these mega changers only have analog in, do I get the slave (analog) signal from the master TOS out ? (in otherwords is there a A/D converter in cx350) -michael (A) -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| -------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWHumphrey@fuse.net Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:58:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:58:34 -0400 From: Thomas W. Humphrey TWHumphrey@fuse.net Subject: [slinkelist] How can I... You hit a line of inquiry that I have been working on lately. Colby - I copied you directly to make sure I have all of this right, and to highlight a suggested new CDJ feature mentioned near the end of this message.... First of all, master-slave connections are incompatible with operation under CDJ. CDJ will be trying to do things while the master is trying to do the opposite. If you want to switch between CDJ control and a master-slave connection, you will need to set up a switched arrangement to change the connections of the changer when CDJ fires up and turns off. Colby has this described at http://www.nirvis.com/masterslave.htm. CDJ has cross-fade controls under one of the tabs in "options". Check it out, it works nicely. You need to understand that the master changer will not pass the analog signal through to its analog output if the master is in play OR PAUSE. CDJ, when it pre-queues players (which is the best mode of operation), will hold the master in pause at the next track while playing from the slave. This means, when CDJ is operating, no audio will be passed through the master while the slave is playing, i.e., you won't hear the tracks from the slave if you connect your amp to the master. The fix for this is a rewire of the circuitry of the master changer, which is also documented at the Nirvis site at http://www.nirvis.com/cx255mods.htm. A better way to go is to simply build a passive mixer and connect it between the outputs of the changer and the input to your stereo. This is documented at http://www.nirvis.com/mixers.htm. Answering your next question, in a master-slave hookup, the master changer will NOT output digital audio for the slave. It will only output analog received through the analog slave audio input conneectors. If you want digital audio from both changers to be played by your receiver, you will need to set up digital multiplexing between the changers and receiver, or connect the changers to different source inputs of the receiver, and use CDJ events to change the receiver input. There are various options for digital multiplexing, the best being the DXS that Nirvis sells. Careful, however. Right, now, all forms of digital multiplexing are in my view unsatisfactory. First, you cannot digitally cross-fade, and you will just have to live with that. Second, the receiver will take a half-second or so to sync to a new digital stream (different changer) each time you mux between streams, whether you do so by changing receiver inputs or do so by muxing the stream before it enters the receiver. This means you will not hear the first half-second or so of the first song played after switching changers. Check this out by hooking two CD players/changers, optically, to two optical inputs of your receiver. Play audio from one player/changer through the receiver while putting the other player/changer in pause at the beginning of a song that starts loud. Then, switch to the player/changer in pause, and release the pause. You will lose a half-second or so of the song, no matter how long you wait between selecting the new input and releasing the pause. It is simply a fact that the receiver has nothing in the optical signal to sync to until the music starts playing, and the receiver cannot get sync'ed fast enough to playback the beginning of the song. One of the nice things about CDJ is the ability to switch changers on a song-by-song basis, but the entertainment value of doing so is substantially reduced when you lose the first half-second of each song. A lot of my discs (particularly the hard rock one) start loud - losing this is unacceptable. There are two solutions I have thought of: (1) set up CDJ to mute the receiver each time the changer switches, start the new track, and then after one second or so of playback, pause and do a |<< to return to the beginning of the track. Then un-mute the amplifier, and then release the pause. This would give the receiver time to sync to the new digital stream, without any audible artifact, and with the minor penalty of an extra one-second gap between songs when switching changers. Unfortunately, a CDJ map file cannot be used to do this because CDJ does not support a "delay" that would permit this kind of sequence. Colby - an option to perform this sequence with every changer switch, would be a great feature to add to CDJ, for those of us trying to do digital switching. Alternatively, a "delay" command for map files could be used to achieve the same result. Can you do either in your voluminous spare time? (2) Give up on the changers entirely, rip all of your discs to MP3's on a mega hard drive (in my case, 30+ GB is needed), set up the MP3's in CDJ as audio file albums, and have CDJ play them directly out of the computer via a sound card with an optical output jack. If the sound card had an optical in, you could connect one changer full of discs to that input and have CDJ mix MP3 and CD's. I looked but could not find a sound card with multiple optical inputs, so I can't see how to do more than one changer this way. Hope this helps.... Tom Humphrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Holopainen" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:23 AM Subject: [slinkelist] How can I... > How to rig cx350 as megachanger master conrolling slave cxXXX player > without it interfering slinke-CDJ operation ? > > Can I just link 1 slink cable from each play to slinke-box and one cable > > _______ > |cx350 |o-------o ______ > |master| |Slinke| > |______|o | | > | o|______| > _______ | | > |slave |o | > |cx | | > |______|o-------J > > Or does this cause someshort of feedback or echo ? > Or do I just connect one slink cable from slave to CX350(mega master) > and another from cx350 to slinke_box ? > > What I want to do is use the horrible 2-way-"toy"-remote to control both > (all) players while the pc is turned off and still be able to control > them via CDJ without any clitch. > Also is there anyway to use the x-fade on megachanger in CDJ ? > One more question these mega changers only have analog in, do I get the > slave (analog) signal from the master TOS out ? > (in otherwords is there a A/D converter in cx350) > > -michael (A) > > -- > --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | > | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | > | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From jrcmphs1@bellsouth.net Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:03:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:03:16 -0500 From: Jayson R. Chitwood jrcmphs1@bellsouth.net Subject: [slinkelist] How can I... Some interesting discussion -- but I disagree with a couple of the comments listed..... Master/Slave WILL work with CDJ -- MegaControl will not. To get CDJ to work with Master/Slave, connect the Slinke to the Master, connect the slave to the master using a S-link cable (make sure you set the slave to 3 rather than 2), connect the audio out of the slave to the audio in on the master, connect the audio out on the master to your receiver. In this scenario, cross fade from CDJ will not work properly. BUT, audio from the slave will pass through the master when the master is in pause.......do not connect the Slinke to both changers, as CDJ will pick this up as four players rather than two. To achieve cross fade with CDJ, you must make a passive mixer (as alluded to in prev posting). I was using the configuration mentioned above when I first set up my Slinke/CDJ controls. I later made a trip to the Shack (Radio Shack, that is) and made a passive mixer -- quite simple and only about six bucks....... Jayson Chitwood Memphis, TN ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas W. Humphrey To: Michael Holopainen ; Cc: Colby Boles Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] How can I... > You hit a line of inquiry that I have been working on lately. Colby - I > copied you directly to make sure I have all of this right, and to highlight > a suggested new CDJ feature mentioned near the end of this message.... > > First of all, master-slave connections are incompatible with operation under > CDJ. CDJ will be trying to do things while the master is trying to do the > opposite. If you want to switch between CDJ control and a master-slave > connection, you will need to set up a switched arrangement to change the > connections of the changer when CDJ fires up and turns off. Colby has this > described at http://www.nirvis.com/masterslave.htm. > > CDJ has cross-fade controls under one of the tabs in "options". Check it > out, it works nicely. > > You need to understand that the master changer will not pass the analog > signal through to its analog output if the master is in play OR PAUSE. CDJ, > when it pre-queues players (which is the best mode of operation), will hold > the master in pause at the next track while playing from the slave. This > means, when CDJ is operating, no audio will be passed through the master > while the slave is playing, i.e., you won't hear the tracks from the slave > if you connect your amp to the master. The fix for this is a rewire of the > circuitry of the master changer, which is also documented at the Nirvis site > at http://www.nirvis.com/cx255mods.htm. > > A better way to go is to simply build a passive mixer and connect it between > the outputs of the changer and the input to your stereo. This is documented > at http://www.nirvis.com/mixers.htm. > > Answering your next question, in a master-slave hookup, the master changer > will NOT output digital audio for the slave. It will only output analog > received through the analog slave audio input conneectors. If you want > digital audio from both changers to be played by your receiver, you will > need to set up digital multiplexing between the changers and receiver, or > connect the changers to different source inputs of the receiver, and use CDJ > events to change the receiver input. There are various options for digital > multiplexing, the best being the DXS that Nirvis sells. > > Careful, however. Right, now, all forms of digital multiplexing are in my > view unsatisfactory. First, you cannot digitally cross-fade, and you will > just have to live with that. Second, the receiver will take a half-second > or so to sync to a new digital stream (different changer) each time you mux > between streams, whether you do so by changing receiver inputs or do so by > muxing the stream before it enters the receiver. This means you will not > hear the first half-second or so of the first song played after switching > changers. Check this out by hooking two CD players/changers, optically, to > two optical inputs of your receiver. Play audio from one player/changer > through the receiver while putting the other player/changer in pause at the > beginning of a song that starts loud. Then, switch to the player/changer in > pause, and release the pause. You will lose a half-second or so of the > song, no matter how long you wait between selecting the new input and > releasing the pause. It is simply a fact that the receiver has nothing in > the optical signal to sync to until the music starts playing, and the > receiver cannot get sync'ed fast enough to playback the beginning of the > song. > > One of the nice things about CDJ is the ability to switch changers on a > song-by-song basis, but the entertainment value of doing so is substantially > reduced when you lose the first half-second of each song. A lot of my discs > (particularly the hard rock one) start loud - losing this is unacceptable. > > There are two solutions I have thought of: > > (1) set up CDJ to mute the receiver each time the changer switches, start > the new track, and then after one second or so of playback, pause and do a > |<< to return to the beginning of the track. Then un-mute the amplifier, > and then release the pause. This would give the receiver time to sync to > the new digital stream, without any audible artifact, and with the minor > penalty of an extra one-second gap between songs when switching changers. > Unfortunately, a CDJ map file cannot be used to do this because CDJ does not > support a "delay" that would permit this kind of sequence. Colby - an > option to perform this sequence with every changer switch, would be a great > feature to add to CDJ, for those of us trying to do digital switching. > Alternatively, a "delay" command for map files could be used to achieve the > same result. Can you do either in your voluminous spare time? > > (2) Give up on the changers entirely, rip all of your discs to MP3's on a > mega hard drive (in my case, 30+ GB is needed), set up the MP3's in CDJ as > audio file albums, and have CDJ play them directly out of the computer via a > sound card with an optical output jack. If the sound card had an optical > in, you could connect one changer full of discs to that input and have CDJ > mix MP3 and CD's. I looked but could not find a sound card with multiple > optical inputs, so I can't see how to do more than one changer this way. > > Hope this helps.... > > Tom Humphrey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Holopainen" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:23 AM > Subject: [slinkelist] How can I... > > > > How to rig cx350 as megachanger master conrolling slave cxXXX player > > without it interfering slinke-CDJ operation ? > > > > Can I just link 1 slink cable from each play to slinke-box and one cable > > > > _______ > > |cx350 |o-------o ______ > > |master| |Slinke| > > |______|o | | > > | o|______| > > _______ | | > > |slave |o | > > |cx | | > > |______|o-------J > > > > Or does this cause someshort of feedback or echo ? > > Or do I just connect one slink cable from slave to CX350(mega master) > > and another from cx350 to slinke_box ? > > > > What I want to do is use the horrible 2-way-"toy"-remote to control both > > (all) players while the pc is turned off and still be able to control > > them via CDJ without any clitch. > > Also is there anyway to use the x-fade on megachanger in CDJ ? > > One more question these mega changers only have analog in, do I get the > > slave (analog) signal from the master TOS out ? > > (in otherwords is there a A/D converter in cx350) > > > > -michael (A) > > > > -- > > --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | > > | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | > > | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From gtang@gtcons.com Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:50:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:50:30 -0700 From: Tang, George gtang@gtcons.com Subject: [slinkelist] How can I... I'm getting really confused now. I've read so many instances where the master will allow the slave to come through when the master is in pause mode. And yet I've read responses where the master does not. Mine will not allow the slave to come through when it's in pause mode. I'm wondering if the different Megacontrol units behaves differently? -George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Jayson R. Chitwood Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:03 PM To: Thomas W. Humphrey; Michael Holopainen; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] How can I... Some interesting discussion -- but I disagree with a couple of the comments listed..... Master/Slave WILL work with CDJ -- MegaControl will not. To get CDJ to work with Master/Slave, connect the Slinke to the Master, connect the slave to the master using a S-link cable (make sure you set the slave to 3 rather than 2), connect the audio out of the slave to the audio in on the master, connect the audio out on the master to your receiver. In this scenario, cross fade from CDJ will not work properly. BUT, audio from the slave will pass through the master when the master is in pause.......do not connect the Slinke to both changers, as CDJ will pick this up as four players rather than two. To achieve cross fade with CDJ, you must make a passive mixer (as alluded to in prev posting). I was using the configuration mentioned above when I first set up my Slinke/CDJ controls. I later made a trip to the Shack (Radio Shack, that is) and made a passive mixer -- quite simple and only about six bucks....... Jayson Chitwood Memphis, TN ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas W. Humphrey To: Michael Holopainen ; Cc: Colby Boles Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [slinkelist] How can I... > You hit a line of inquiry that I have been working on lately. Colby - I > copied you directly to make sure I have all of this right, and to highlight > a suggested new CDJ feature mentioned near the end of this message.... > > First of all, master-slave connections are incompatible with operation under > CDJ. CDJ will be trying to do things while the master is trying to do the > opposite. If you want to switch between CDJ control and a master-slave > connection, you will need to set up a switched arrangement to change the > connections of the changer when CDJ fires up and turns off. Colby has this > described at http://www.nirvis.com/masterslave.htm. > > CDJ has cross-fade controls under one of the tabs in "options". Check it > out, it works nicely. > > You need to understand that the master changer will not pass the analog > signal through to its analog output if the master is in play OR PAUSE. CDJ, > when it pre-queues players (which is the best mode of operation), will hold > the master in pause at the next track while playing from the slave. This > means, when CDJ is operating, no audio will be passed through the master > while the slave is playing, i.e., you won't hear the tracks from the slave > if you connect your amp to the master. The fix for this is a rewire of the > circuitry of the master changer, which is also documented at the Nirvis site > at http://www.nirvis.com/cx255mods.htm. > > A better way to go is to simply build a passive mixer and connect it between > the outputs of the changer and the input to your stereo. This is documented > at http://www.nirvis.com/mixers.htm. > > Answering your next question, in a master-slave hookup, the master changer > will NOT output digital audio for the slave. It will only output analog > received through the analog slave audio input conneectors. If you want > digital audio from both changers to be played by your receiver, you will > need to set up digital multiplexing between the changers and receiver, or > connect the changers to different source inputs of the receiver, and use CDJ > events to change the receiver input. There are various options for digital > multiplexing, the best being the DXS that Nirvis sells. > > Careful, however. Right, now, all forms of digital multiplexing are in my > view unsatisfactory. First, you cannot digitally cross-fade, and you will > just have to live with that. Second, the receiver will take a half-second > or so to sync to a new digital stream (different changer) each time you mux > between streams, whether you do so by changing receiver inputs or do so by > muxing the stream before it enters the receiver. This means you will not > hear the first half-second or so of the first song played after switching > changers. Check this out by hooking two CD players/changers, optically, to > two optical inputs of your receiver. Play audio from one player/changer > through the receiver while putting the other player/changer in pause at the > beginning of a song that starts loud. Then, switch to the player/changer in > pause, and release the pause. You will lose a half-second or so of the > song, no matter how long you wait between selecting the new input and > releasing the pause. It is simply a fact that the receiver has nothing in > the optical signal to sync to until the music starts playing, and the > receiver cannot get sync'ed fast enough to playback the beginning of the > song. > > One of the nice things about CDJ is the ability to switch changers on a > song-by-song basis, but the entertainment value of doing so is substantially > reduced when you lose the first half-second of each song. A lot of my discs > (particularly the hard rock one) start loud - losing this is unacceptable. > > There are two solutions I have thought of: > > (1) set up CDJ to mute the receiver each time the changer switches, start > the new track, and then after one second or so of playback, pause and do a > |<< to return to the beginning of the track. Then un-mute the amplifier, > and then release the pause. This would give the receiver time to sync to > the new digital stream, without any audible artifact, and with the minor > penalty of an extra one-second gap between songs when switching changers. > Unfortunately, a CDJ map file cannot be used to do this because CDJ does not > support a "delay" that would permit this kind of sequence. Colby - an > option to perform this sequence with every changer switch, would be a great > feature to add to CDJ, for those of us trying to do digital switching. > Alternatively, a "delay" command for map files could be used to achieve the > same result. Can you do either in your voluminous spare time? > > (2) Give up on the changers entirely, rip all of your discs to MP3's on a > mega hard drive (in my case, 30+ GB is needed), set up the MP3's in CDJ as > audio file albums, and have CDJ play them directly out of the computer via a > sound card with an optical output jack. If the sound card had an optical > in, you could connect one changer full of discs to that input and have CDJ > mix MP3 and CD's. I looked but could not find a sound card with multiple > optical inputs, so I can't see how to do more than one changer this way. > > Hope this helps.... > > Tom Humphrey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Holopainen" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:23 AM > Subject: [slinkelist] How can I... > > > > How to rig cx350 as megachanger master conrolling slave cxXXX player > > without it interfering slinke-CDJ operation ? > > > > Can I just link 1 slink cable from each play to slinke-box and one cable > > > > _______ > > |cx350 |o-------o ______ > > |master| |Slinke| > > |______|o | | > > | o|______| > > _______ | | > > |slave |o | > > |cx | | > > |______|o-------J > > > > Or does this cause someshort of feedback or echo ? > > Or do I just connect one slink cable from slave to CX350(mega master) > > and another from cx350 to slinke_box ? > > > > What I want to do is use the horrible 2-way-"toy"-remote to control both > > (all) players while the pc is turned off and still be able to control > > them via CDJ without any clitch. > > Also is there anyway to use the x-fade on megachanger in CDJ ? > > One more question these mega changers only have analog in, do I get the > > slave (analog) signal from the master TOS out ? > > (in otherwords is there a A/D converter in cx350) > > > > -michael (A) > > > > -- > > --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | Michael Holopainen | Valuraudantie 25 | Tel: +358-(0)9-35093825 | > > | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 | > > | Laserle Oy | Finland | email: michael@laserle.fi| > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From cboles@socrates.berkeley.edu Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:10:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:10:08 -0700 From: Colby Boles cboles@socrates.berkeley.edu Subject: [slinkelist] How can I... > -----Original Message----- > From: Colby Boles [mailto:cboles@nirvis.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:10 PM > To: gtang@gtcons.com > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] How can I... > > > Some newer master players like the CX300 will pass thru while in > pause if (and only if) there is a player at the slave ID on the > same bus. Like Jayson said, the cross fade doesn't work though. > > Colby > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Tang, George > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:51 PM > > To: Jayson R. Chitwood; Thomas W. Humphrey; Michael Holopainen; > > slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] How can I... > > > > > > I'm getting really confused now. I've read so many instances where the > > master will allow the slave to come through when the master is in pause > > mode. And yet I've read responses where the master does not. > > Mine will not > > allow the slave to come through when it's in pause mode. I'm > wondering if > > the different Megacontrol units behaves differently? > > > > -George > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Jayson R. Chitwood > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:03 PM > > To: Thomas W. Humphrey; Michael Holopainen; slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] How can I... > > > > > > Some interesting discussion -- but I disagree with a couple of > > the comments > > listed..... > > > > Master/Slave WILL work with CDJ -- MegaControl will not. To get > > CDJ to work > > with Master/Slave, connect the Slinke to the Master, connect > the slave to > > the master using a S-link cable (make sure you set the slave to 3 rather > > than 2), connect the audio out of the slave to the audio in on > the master, > > connect the audio out on the master to your receiver. > > > > In this scenario, cross fade from CDJ will not work properly. > BUT, audio > > from the slave will pass through the master when the master is in > > pause.......do not connect the Slinke to both changers, as CDJ will pick > > this up as four players rather than two. > > > > To achieve cross fade with CDJ, you must make a passive mixer (as > > alluded to > > in prev posting). I was using the configuration mentioned above when I > > first set up my Slinke/CDJ controls. I later made a trip to the Shack > > (Radio Shack, that is) and made a passive mixer -- quite simple and only > > about six bucks....... > > > > Jayson Chitwood > > Memphis, TN > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Thomas W. Humphrey > > To: Michael Holopainen