From cullen@badencorp.com Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:52:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:52:22 -0500 From: Cullen Simpson cullen@badencorp.com Subject: [slinkelist] Transmitter Range I put a 12v power supply on my Slink-e. I was not able to get the transmitter to work in my ideal location, but I was able to find a suitable one. I then plugged the original 9v power supply in and the transmitter did not work. So, the 12v did the job. Will having the 12v supply attached cause any problems? Will this be bad for any of the attached devices? Thanks for your help, Cullen Simpson David Aue said: > You could try using a 12V power supply for the Slink-e (don't go any higher) > or you could use a smaller value resistor in the transmitter module. > > David Aue > Nirvis Systems > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Cullen Simpson > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 3:13 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] Transmitter Range > > > > > > > > Is there any way to boost the power to the transmitter? > > I want to place mine about 20 feet from the stereo closet with > > the devices to > > control. The Slink-e is in another room with about 15 feet of > > line running to > > the closet. Then there is a splitter in the closet (I have a > > receiver on one > > side) which connects to a line that runs about 20 feet to the > > other side of > > the room. > > > > I found a perfect place for the transmitter and set about testing > > it in that > > location with all of my devices. (by the way, I am using the > > supplied flat > > phone cord to do this testing, but will use CAT-5 for the final install). > > Also, the stereo closet is one of those bi-fold type with louvers > > in it. I > > removed the louvers from the top sections of the door and > > replaced them with > > tinted glass. > > > > Anyway, all of my devices work OK except the RCA DSS box. It > > works when I open > > the closet door or when I lower the transmitter to about 5 feet up on the > > wall (not a good spot for it). > > > > So, I am looking to boost the signal a little. Or, would it help > > any if I took > > the transmitter apart and re-oriented the leds so that they all > > faced forward? > > Maybe even remove two of them, would that give more juice to the > > other three? > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Cullen Simpson > > From aue@nirvis.com Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:08:54 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:08:54 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Transmitter Range The voltage gets regulated before it gets used for the S-link ports so there is no danger for your stereo equipment. It is unregulated to the transmitters so they will run brighter. The receivers have their own regulators so no problem there. The only possible concern is that the regulators will run hotter so the things around them will be hotter too which could possible cause thermal problems but most likely all will be fine. David > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Cullen Simpson > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:52 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Transmitter Range > > > > I put a 12v power supply on my Slink-e. I was not able to get the > transmitter > to work in my ideal location, but I was able to find a suitable > one. I then > plugged the original 9v power supply in and the transmitter did > not work. So, > the 12v did the job. > > Will having the 12v supply attached cause any problems? Will this > be bad for > any of the attached devices? > > Thanks for your help, > Cullen Simpson > > David Aue said: > > > You could try using a 12V power supply for the Slink-e (don't > go any higher) > > or you could use a smaller value resistor in the transmitter module. > > > > David Aue > > Nirvis Systems > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of Cullen Simpson > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 3:13 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] Transmitter Range > > > > > > > > Is there any way to boost the power to the transmitter? > > I want to place mine about 20 feet from the stereo closet with > > the devices to > > control. The Slink-e is in another room with about 15 feet of > > line running to > > the closet. Then there is a splitter in the closet (I have a > > receiver on one > > side) which connects to a line that runs about 20 feet to the > > other side of > > the room. > > > > I found a perfect place for the transmitter and set about testing > > it in that > > location with all of my devices. (by the way, I am using the > > supplied flat > > phone cord to do this testing, but will use CAT-5 for the final install). > > Also, the stereo closet is one of those bi-fold type with louvers > > in it. I > > removed the louvers from the top sections of the door and > > replaced them with > > tinted glass. > > > > Anyway, all of my devices work OK except the RCA DSS box. It > > works when I open > > the closet door or when I lower the transmitter to about 5 feet up on the > > wall (not a good spot for it). > > > > So, I am looking to boost the signal a little. Or, would it help > > any if I took > > the transmitter apart and re-oriented the leds so that they all > > faced forward? > > Maybe even remove two of them, would that give more juice to the > > other three? > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Cullen Simpson > > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:06:17 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:06:17 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] test test. sorry folks. From jrat0@earthlink.net Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:24:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:24:55 -0500 From: John jrat0@earthlink.net Subject: [slinkelist] FW: Two CDP-CX90ES I have two Sony CDP-CX90ES units. I wanted to address the first one 2 and the other 3 on the slink bus. They have a feature to control the other unit when set to these numbers, which is ok with me. When CDJ finds the units, one Primary, the other Remote, it has problems downloading the CD Title, Artist, and Track information to the Primary unit for the secondary unit. The reason I wanted this configuration is because I have a third CD 5 disc changer (CDP-CA9ES) that does not have the ability to set an adress, it is 1. I don't necessarily want to attach this unit to the Slinke but I want my remote to be able to control only one unit at a time, thus I need unique addresses 1, 2 and 3. I don't really care if the CDP-CX90ES unit controls the other because both units have the ability to store track information, however it seems to switch to this mode when they are addressed 2 and 3. From simon@themasons.net Sat, 4 Mar 2000 11:57:25 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 11:57:25 -0500 From: Simon Mason simon@themasons.net Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX300 300 CHANGER DISC PLAYER - $279 - cheaper anywhere? I want to add a 300 disc player to my existing 200. Anyone seen a better price than this? From PRigney@ncontamh.telstra.com.au Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:04:27 +1100 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:04:27 +1100 From: Rigney, Paul [IBM GSA] PRigney@ncontamh.telstra.com.au Subject: [slinkelist] Optical Digital splitter cable? My question is more of a Sony cd player question than a slink-e question. I have 2 200 Sony CD stackers and I am about to buy a SONY STR-DB930 Receiver. How can I hook them up so I can use the digital outputs from both my CD players (Sony Australia had no idea)?. Is there such a thing as a Optical Digital splitter cable? Regards Paul Rigney rigney@ozemail.com.au From GeorgeT@concur.com Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:27:43 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:27:43 -0800 From: George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com Subject: [slinkelist] Optical Digital splitter cable? No, there isn't. What you need is a digital mixer or a digital splitter box. Both of which are expensive (approx. $400-2000). Take a look at the DSX that nirvis is selling at their web site. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Rigney, Paul [IBM GSA] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 3:04 PM To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: [slinkelist] Optical Digital splitter cable? My question is more of a Sony cd player question than a slink-e question. I have 2 200 Sony CD stackers and I am about to buy a SONY STR-DB930 Receiver. How can I hook them up so I can use the digital outputs from both my CD players (Sony Australia had no idea)?. Is there such a thing as a Optical Digital splitter cable? Regards Paul Rigney rigney@ozemail.com.au _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From cboles@nirvis.com Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:51:00 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:51:00 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Optical Digital splitter cable? I'm not exactly clear on what you are trying to do, but if your goal is to hook both changers up to the STR-DB930, you should be able to do this. You can then set up CDJ to automatically switch between the inputs depending on which player is playing. I'm not sure it works with the 930, but on some receivers you can also get the inputs to switch if you connect the s-link port of the player and the receiver together. This is limited to switching between only two inputs typically. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Rigney, Paul [IBM GSA] > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 3:04 PM > To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' > Subject: [slinkelist] Optical Digital splitter cable? > > > My question is more of a Sony cd player question than a slink-e > question. I > have 2 200 Sony CD stackers and I am about to buy a SONY > STR-DB930 Receiver. > How can I hook them up so I can use the digital outputs from both my CD > players (Sony Australia had no idea)?. Is there such a thing as a Optical > Digital splitter cable? > > Regards > Paul Rigney > rigney@ozemail.com.au > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From parkdog@ix.netcom.com Mon, 06 Mar 2000 20:45:55 -0600 Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 20:45:55 -0600 From: Marc Parker parkdog@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] X10 Commands? Could someone on the list give me a hand with using X10 commands and the CM11a with CDJ. I want to start a playlist, Sleep & Awaken CDJ using X10 commands. I know it should be simple, but I don't see where CDJ translates A1 AON to playlistXXX. Thanks Parker From parkdog@ix.netcom.com Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:39:19 -0600 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:39:19 -0600 From: Marc Parker parkdog@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] X10 Commands? I think I figured most of it out. By ADDing the device file CM11a (in your device file under MISC) You get the X10 functionality. What ever you name it in the ADD DEVICE dialog is what you will use to address the CM11a. IE: X10:on[a1] {rec:power_on} Will turn the device "rec" ON when Slinke-serv receives an x10 signal from device "X10". Be careful to use exactly the device name and capitalization. I was having problems when I found I referred to X10:on[A1] instead of X10:[a1]. It made a difference. I then placed the following lines in the event MAP (Go to Map under View/Options/MAPs and use EDIT. Don't forget to rename it so you don't overwrite it during CDJ updates) X10:on[a1] {cdj:awaken} X10:off[a1] {cjd:sleep} X10:on[a2] {cdj:playlist_play} X10:off[a2] {cdj:playlist_stop} These commands and LOTS more are all found under the CDJ help index. This is SUPER basic, but once you start to understand it the realm of capabilities becomes evident, and it is exciting. Check out the last example in your MAPS file regarding starting and playing random music. This can easily be changed to work from an X10 prompt. Finally I am about to impress my wife with HA. She always hated going to my computer, launching CDJ and starting a random playlist. NOW, I will set up ONE X10 Button so she can press it from ANYWHERE in the house and it will Awaken CDJ and start playing a random list. THIS will excite her (relatively speaking :-) To most on this list this little exercise is probably supremely basic, but for me, I am happy to have "figured it out". It now adds tons more functionality to an already great piece of equipment/software. Parker > From: "Peter Myers" > Reply-To: "Peter Myers" > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:42:04 -0800 > To: "Marc Parker" > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] X10 Commands? > > mark- > > could you pass on any helpful tips you receive on this topic? > > thanks pete > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Parker" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 6:45 PM > Subject: [slinkelist] X10 Commands? > > >> Could someone on the list give me a hand with using X10 commands and the >> CM11a with CDJ. >> >> I want to start a playlist, Sleep & Awaken CDJ using X10 commands. I know > it >> should be simple, but I don't see where CDJ translates A1 AON to >> playlistXXX. >> >> Thanks >> >> Parker >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com >> http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From davidmcc@midsouth.rr.com Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:05:01 -0600 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:05:01 -0600 From: DM davidmcc@midsouth.rr.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX350 I just got the slink-e and connected everything. It immediately recognized my cd changer, but only as a 200, not a 300. What do I need to do to get the other 100 slots? Thanks, David From cboles@nirvis.com Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:20:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:20:37 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX350 You need to put the changer in Control-A1 II mode by navigating through the menus on the front panel. Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of DM > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 5:05 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] Sony CDP-CX350 > > > I just got the slink-e and connected everything. It immediately > recognized > my cd changer, but only as a 200, not a 300. What do I need to do to get > the other 100 slots? > > Thanks, > David > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From darrena@MICROSOFT.com Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:07:38 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:07:38 -0800 From: Darren Apfel darrena@MICROSOFT.com Subject: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? I'm having trouble getting my receiver to behave as I would like it to. Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? See message below... d@ -----Original Message----- From: Darren Apfel Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:14 PM To: 'David Aue' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver Thanks David: Not having much success here... I have 3 goals: 1. power on tuner, then select TV/DBS as the source 2. volume up 3. volume down All of them are failing. I have a DA30ES. I also have a sony TV. So I have loaded the amp_sls.cde and tv.cde files from the sony directory of the device files directory. Sonytv:?? (haven't figured out what to map to this yet, but I'm subbing temp commands such as vol+) { receiver:power_on receiver:input tv } Receiver powers up fine... but no matter what "variable" I shove next to input, it defaults to the radio tuner. Also: the DishPlayer remote really only has 3 non-dish controls: vol+, vol-, and PIP. So PIP was going to have to be my receiver power_on command. But TV.CDE doesn't have a mapping for PIP. I suppose I could sample it, but I have had bad luck with this. sonytv:vol+ { receiver:vol+ } Should be simple... but it just doesn't work right. The volume control barely moves. If I add multiple receiver:vol+ commands, it moves slightly more, slowly. Add yet more and I crash CDJ (server busy error). Same problem with vol-. thanks, darren apfel program manager darrena@microsoft.com voice: 425-703-4528 fax: 425-93-msfax -----Original Message----- From: David Aue [mailto:aue@nirvis.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 1:14 AM To: Darren Apfel Subject: RE: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver Hi Darren, You can set up a mapping file to do this. First load the device files for the Sony TV remote and for the receiver S-link and then create an event map from one code to the other. Check out the help sections on device files and command mapping for more details. David Aue Nirvis Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Darren Apfel > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 6:50 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver > > > (Please cc me on any reply) > > Hello: > > Is there some way to map IR commands to s-link commands to my Sony DA30ES > receiver? I'm interested in mapping the following commands: > > - Sony TV Power to Receiver Power > - Sony TV vol+/- to Receiver Vol +/- > > I just bought a WebTV/DishPlayer receiver (amazing little unit that has a > 17GB HD and gives you TiVO-like personal TV features based on the pure > digital stream coming from the Dish Network satellites). It has optical > digital output, which-along with the S-video-I pump through my receiver. > > The DishPlayer has a remote control that can be programmed to > control my TV. > I haven't found a way to control the unit with my universal > remote, so I've > taken to primarily using the DishPlayer's remote when watching TV. Herein > lies the problem: the remote's volume and power commands work on > the TV, but > I need them to affect the receiver as well, since the signal is routed > through the receiver and therefore both the TV and the receiver need to be > turned on... and the volume is controlled solely through the receiver. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > d@ > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From GeorgeT@concur.com Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:30:58 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:30:58 -0800 From: George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com Subject: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? Darren, The variable for the input is a hex code, not a "tv". The hex code varies from receiver to receiver. You'll have to experiment a bit, but you can use the ones in the ampsls.cde file as a starting point. For example: amp_sls:input 15 is the TV on some receivers. I have the vol issue as well. I have 4 vol+/- in my map file. I wish there's a way to do either a vol level command like vol 40 or something like that. Good luck. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Darren Apfel Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 7:08 AM To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? I'm having trouble getting my receiver to behave as I would like it to. Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? See message below... d@ -----Original Message----- From: Darren Apfel Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:14 PM To: 'David Aue' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver Thanks David: Not having much success here... I have 3 goals: 1. power on tuner, then select TV/DBS as the source 2. volume up 3. volume down All of them are failing. I have a DA30ES. I also have a sony TV. So I have loaded the amp_sls.cde and tv.cde files from the sony directory of the device files directory. Sonytv:?? (haven't figured out what to map to this yet, but I'm subbing temp commands such as vol+) { receiver:power_on receiver:input tv } Receiver powers up fine... but no matter what "variable" I shove next to input, it defaults to the radio tuner. Also: the DishPlayer remote really only has 3 non-dish controls: vol+, vol-, and PIP. So PIP was going to have to be my receiver power_on command. But TV.CDE doesn't have a mapping for PIP. I suppose I could sample it, but I have had bad luck with this. sonytv:vol+ { receiver:vol+ } Should be simple... but it just doesn't work right. The volume control barely moves. If I add multiple receiver:vol+ commands, it moves slightly more, slowly. Add yet more and I crash CDJ (server busy error). Same problem with vol-. thanks, darren apfel program manager darrena@microsoft.com voice: 425-703-4528 fax: 425-93-msfax -----Original Message----- From: David Aue [mailto:aue@nirvis.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 1:14 AM To: Darren Apfel Subject: RE: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver Hi Darren, You can set up a mapping file to do this. First load the device files for the Sony TV remote and for the receiver S-link and then create an event map from one code to the other. Check out the help sections on device files and command mapping for more details. David Aue Nirvis Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Darren Apfel > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 6:50 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver > > > (Please cc me on any reply) > > Hello: > > Is there some way to map IR commands to s-link commands to my Sony DA30ES > receiver? I'm interested in mapping the following commands: > > - Sony TV Power to Receiver Power > - Sony TV vol+/- to Receiver Vol +/- > > I just bought a WebTV/DishPlayer receiver (amazing little unit that has a > 17GB HD and gives you TiVO-like personal TV features based on the pure > digital stream coming from the Dish Network satellites). It has optical > digital output, which-along with the S-video-I pump through my receiver. > > The DishPlayer has a remote control that can be programmed to > control my TV. > I haven't found a way to control the unit with my universal > remote, so I've > taken to primarily using the DishPlayer's remote when watching TV. Herein > lies the problem: the remote's volume and power commands work on > the TV, but > I need them to affect the receiver as well, since the signal is routed > through the receiver and therefore both the TV and the receiver need to be > turned on... and the volume is controlled solely through the receiver. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > d@ > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From GeorgeT@concur.com Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:45:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:45:28 -0800 From: George Tang GeorgeT@concur.com Subject: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? Oh, BTW, the proper syntax is amp_sls:input[15]. I don't know if the square brackets are required since I'm at work so I can't try it without the square bracket. It's probably better to use the brackets. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of George Tang Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:31 AM To: 'Darren Apfel'; 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? Darren, The variable for the input is a hex code, not a "tv". The hex code varies from receiver to receiver. You'll have to experiment a bit, but you can use the ones in the ampsls.cde file as a starting point. For example: amp_sls:input 15 is the TV on some receivers. I have the vol issue as well. I have 4 vol+/- in my map file. I wish there's a way to do either a vol level command like vol 40 or something like that. Good luck. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Darren Apfel Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 7:08 AM To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? I'm having trouble getting my receiver to behave as I would like it to. Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? See message below... d@ -----Original Message----- From: Darren Apfel Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:14 PM To: 'David Aue' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver Thanks David: Not having much success here... I have 3 goals: 1. power on tuner, then select TV/DBS as the source 2. volume up 3. volume down All of them are failing. I have a DA30ES. I also have a sony TV. So I have loaded the amp_sls.cde and tv.cde files from the sony directory of the device files directory. Sonytv:?? (haven't figured out what to map to this yet, but I'm subbing temp commands such as vol+) { receiver:power_on receiver:input tv } Receiver powers up fine... but no matter what "variable" I shove next to input, it defaults to the radio tuner. Also: the DishPlayer remote really only has 3 non-dish controls: vol+, vol-, and PIP. So PIP was going to have to be my receiver power_on command. But TV.CDE doesn't have a mapping for PIP. I suppose I could sample it, but I have had bad luck with this. sonytv:vol+ { receiver:vol+ } Should be simple... but it just doesn't work right. The volume control barely moves. If I add multiple receiver:vol+ commands, it moves slightly more, slowly. Add yet more and I crash CDJ (server busy error). Same problem with vol-. thanks, darren apfel program manager darrena@microsoft.com voice: 425-703-4528 fax: 425-93-msfax -----Original Message----- From: David Aue [mailto:aue@nirvis.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 1:14 AM To: Darren Apfel Subject: RE: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver Hi Darren, You can set up a mapping file to do this. First load the device files for the Sony TV remote and for the receiver S-link and then create an event map from one code to the other. Check out the help sections on device files and command mapping for more details. David Aue Nirvis Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Darren Apfel > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 6:50 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver > > > (Please cc me on any reply) > > Hello: > > Is there some way to map IR commands to s-link commands to my Sony DA30ES > receiver? I'm interested in mapping the following commands: > > - Sony TV Power to Receiver Power > - Sony TV vol+/- to Receiver Vol +/- > > I just bought a WebTV/DishPlayer receiver (amazing little unit that has a > 17GB HD and gives you TiVO-like personal TV features based on the pure > digital stream coming from the Dish Network satellites). It has optical > digital output, which-along with the S-video-I pump through my receiver. > > The DishPlayer has a remote control that can be programmed to > control my TV. > I haven't found a way to control the unit with my universal > remote, so I've > taken to primarily using the DishPlayer's remote when watching TV. Herein > lies the problem: the remote's volume and power commands work on > the TV, but > I need them to affect the receiver as well, since the signal is routed > through the receiver and therefore both the TV and the receiver need to be > turned on... and the volume is controlled solely through the receiver. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > d@ > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From darrena@MICROSOFT.com Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:05:08 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:05:08 -0800 From: Darren Apfel darrena@MICROSOFT.com Subject: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? Thanks much, George. I will try to find the right TV code for the receiver. Incidentally: I tried 10, even 20 vol+ commands and it barely did anything... thanks @gain, d@ darrena@microsoft.com http://mobile/ -----Original Message----- From: George Tang [mailto:GeorgeT@concur.com] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:45 AM To: Darren Apfel; 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? Oh, BTW, the proper syntax is amp_sls:input[15]. I don't know if the square brackets are required since I'm at work so I can't try it without the square bracket. It's probably better to use the brackets. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of George Tang Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:31 AM To: 'Darren Apfel'; 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? Darren, The variable for the input is a hex code, not a "tv". The hex code varies from receiver to receiver. You'll have to experiment a bit, but you can use the ones in the ampsls.cde file as a starting point. For example: amp_sls:input 15 is the TV on some receivers. I have the vol issue as well. I have 4 vol+/- in my map file. I wish there's a way to do either a vol level command like vol 40 or something like that. Good luck. George -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Darren Apfel Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 7:08 AM To: 'slinkelist@nirvis.com' Subject: [slinkelist] Anybody Automated a DA30es Receiver via S-Link?? I'm having trouble getting my receiver to behave as I would like it to. Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? See message below... d@ -----Original Message----- From: Darren Apfel Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:14 PM To: 'David Aue' Subject: RE: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver Thanks David: Not having much success here... I have 3 goals: 1. power on tuner, then select TV/DBS as the source 2. volume up 3. volume down All of them are failing. I have a DA30ES. I also have a sony TV. So I have loaded the amp_sls.cde and tv.cde files from the sony directory of the device files directory. Sonytv:?? (haven't figured out what to map to this yet, but I'm subbing temp commands such as vol+) { receiver:power_on receiver:input tv } Receiver powers up fine... but no matter what "variable" I shove next to input, it defaults to the radio tuner. Also: the DishPlayer remote really only has 3 non-dish controls: vol+, vol-, and PIP. So PIP was going to have to be my receiver power_on command. But TV.CDE doesn't have a mapping for PIP. I suppose I could sample it, but I have had bad luck with this. sonytv:vol+ { receiver:vol+ } Should be simple... but it just doesn't work right. The volume control barely moves. If I add multiple receiver:vol+ commands, it moves slightly more, slowly. Add yet more and I crash CDJ (server busy error). Same problem with vol-. thanks, darren apfel program manager darrena@microsoft.com voice: 425-703-4528 fax: 425-93-msfax -----Original Message----- From: David Aue [mailto:aue@nirvis.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 1:14 AM To: Darren Apfel Subject: RE: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver Hi Darren, You can set up a mapping file to do this. First load the device files for the Sony TV remote and for the receiver S-link and then create an event map from one code to the other. Check out the help sections on device files and command mapping for more details. David Aue Nirvis Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Darren Apfel > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 6:50 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] IR commands to S-Link for Sony Receiver > > > (Please cc me on any reply) > > Hello: > > Is there some way to map IR commands to s-link commands to my Sony DA30ES > receiver? I'm interested in mapping the following commands: > > - Sony TV Power to Receiver Power > - Sony TV vol+/- to Receiver Vol +/- > > I just bought a WebTV/DishPlayer receiver (amazing little unit that has a > 17GB HD and gives you TiVO-like personal TV features based on the pure > digital stream coming from the Dish Network satellites). It has optical > digital output, which-along with the S-video-I pump through my receiver. > > The DishPlayer has a remote control that can be programmed to > control my TV. > I haven't found a way to control the unit with my universal > remote, so I've > taken to primarily using the DishPlayer's remote when watching TV. Herein > lies the problem: the remote's volume and power commands work on > the TV, but > I need them to affect the receiver as well, since the signal is routed > through the receiver and therefore both the TV and the receiver need to be > turned on... and the volume is controlled solely through the receiver. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > d@ > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From shawn@sboyle.com 9 Mar 2000 15:12:59 -0800 Date: 9 Mar 2000 15:12:59 -0800 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] MD Recording Problem I have a CDP-CX300, an MDS-JB920, and an STR-DE835 all on the same s-link bus and all connected to port 0 on my Slink-e. If I try to record a playlist to a minidisc [either by using Minidisc Manager, or manually by pressing "Music Sync" and then starting the playlist] the minidisc deck stop recording after the second song, every time. This happens even if the two songs are on the same disc. For example if I drag a disc from the library window to the playlist and then try to record it everything works. But if I explode that disc and then try to record it I'll only get the first two tracks. I've tried using both the .cde files that came with CDJ and the ones that came with Minidisc Manager -- same result. Here's a sample from my log file: cdslr001:time[10010445] cdslr001:time[10010446] cdsls001:stop cdsls001:stop cdslr001:stop cdslr001:stop cdjr:using_player[cd1] cdsls001:pause_dt[5314] cdsls001:pause_dt[5314] cdslr001:pause cdslr001:goto_disc[53] cdslr001:unloading mdslr:stop <---- Why? mdslr:disc_info[01010A324800] cdslr001:now_at_disc[53] cdslr001:displaying_disc[53] cdslr001:ready cdsls001:query_disc[53] cdslr001:disc_info[530116543347] cdslr001:playing[53140344] cdsls001:timecode_on cdslr001:time[14010000] Thanks, -Shawn _______________________________________________________ Common sense is not common. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: Numeric: 917/296.8405 Alpha: pager@sboyle.com or 800.385.CIBC _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From cboles@nirvis.com Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:04:46 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:04:46 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] MD Recording Problem I'm not sure why, but why don't you put the 920 on a seperate bus? Mine is on a seperate bus and the music sync works great... Colby > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of shawn@sboyle.com > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 3:13 PM > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: [slinkelist] MD Recording Problem > > > I have a CDP-CX300, an MDS-JB920, and an STR-DE835 all on the > same s-link bus and all connected to port 0 on my Slink-e. If I > try to record a playlist to a minidisc [either by using Minidisc > Manager, or manually by pressing "Music Sync" and then starting > the playlist] the minidisc deck stop recording after the second > song, every time. This happens even if the two songs are on the > same disc. For example if I drag a disc from the library window > to the playlist and then try to record it everything works. But > if I explode that disc and then try to record it I'll only get > the first two tracks. I've tried using both the .cde files that > came with CDJ and the ones that came with Minidisc Manager -- > same result. Here's a sample from my log file: > > cdslr001:time[10010445] > cdslr001:time[10010446] > cdsls001:stop > cdsls001:stop > cdslr001:stop > cdslr001:stop > cdjr:using_player[cd1] > cdsls001:pause_dt[5314] > cdsls001:pause_dt[5314] > cdslr001:pause > cdslr001:goto_disc[53] > cdslr001:unloading > mdslr:stop <---- Why? > mdslr:disc_info[01010A324800] > cdslr001:now_at_disc[53] > cdslr001:displaying_disc[53] > cdslr001:ready > cdsls001:query_disc[53] > cdslr001:disc_info[530116543347] > cdslr001:playing[53140344] > cdsls001:timecode_on > cdslr001:time[14010000] > > Thanks, > -Shawn > > _______________________________________________________ > Common sense is not common. > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com > Pager: Numeric: 917/296.8405 > Alpha: pager@sboyle.com or 800.385.CIBC > _______________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your > own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > From will@airmail.net Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:21:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:21:06 -0500 From: William Hollingworth will@airmail.net Subject: [slinkelist] MD Recording Problem Without seeing a debugging log from the CDJ Playlist window, I can't see any reason why this is happening. Enable the slink messages in the MD Manager preferences, then duplicate the problem, then cut and paste the log text into an email. It should explain why it decided that it should stop the MD recording. Are you sure it's not something silly like the MD is full? ps. Colby - I realized that I don't (can't) check to see what tracks in a playlist are on what player. So for multi-CD player playlist recording, I can't check if I should go into pause while the CD changes because it's on the same player, or if I just need to add a track mark because it's on a different player and will be already cued to play. Any suggestions on a method to get this info on a per track basis? (I need to know it beforehand and not by just looking at "using_player[cdxx]" while the playlist is already playing. Will ----- Original Message ----- From: Colby Boles To: ; Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: RE: [slinkelist] MD Recording Problem > I'm not sure why, but why don't you put the 920 on a seperate bus? Mine is > on a seperate bus and the music sync works great... > > Colby > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of shawn@sboyle.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 3:13 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] MD Recording Problem > > > > > > I have a CDP-CX300, an MDS-JB920, and an STR-DE835 all on the > > same s-link bus and all connected to port 0 on my Slink-e. If I > > try to record a playlist to a minidisc [either by using Minidisc > > Manager, or manually by pressing "Music Sync" and then starting > > the playlist] the minidisc deck stop recording after the second > > song, every time. This happens even if the two songs are on the > > same disc. For example if I drag a disc from the library window > > to the playlist and then try to record it everything works. But > > if I explode that disc and then try to record it I'll only get > > the first two tracks. I've tried using both the .cde files that > > came with CDJ and the ones that came with Minidisc Manager -- > > same result. Here's a sample from my log file: > > > > cdslr001:time[10010445] > > cdslr001:time[10010446] > > cdsls001:stop > > cdsls001:stop > > cdslr001:stop > > cdslr001:stop > > cdjr:using_player[cd1] > > cdsls001:pause_dt[5314] > > cdsls001:pause_dt[5314] > > cdslr001:pause > > cdslr001:goto_disc[53] > > cdslr001:unloading > > mdslr:stop <---- Why? > > mdslr:disc_info[01010A324800] > > cdslr001:now_at_disc[53] > > cdslr001:displaying_disc[53] > > cdslr001:ready > > cdsls001:query_disc[53] > > cdslr001:disc_info[530116543347] > > cdslr001:playing[53140344] > > cdsls001:timecode_on > > cdslr001:time[14010000] > > > > Thanks, > > -Shawn > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Common sense is not common. > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > > E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com > > Pager: Numeric: 917/296.8405 > > Alpha: pager@sboyle.com or 800.385.CIBC > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your > > own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From tsshea@rglobal.net Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:49:31 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:49:31 -0800 From: Terri Shea tsshea@rglobal.net Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) I am interested in a Slink-e on two levels. I work for a Aircraft Management Company, providing corporate aircraft transportation to business. Which leads me to my first question. We are in the process of purchasing a new aircraft, which will need to be outfitted with paint and interior. The people we are doing this for are very musically inclined, and have asked for the ability to manipulate the music system in the cabin. To this end, we located your web site. Would your system work in this environment? If we were to install a RS 323 port by one of the passenger seats, can we connect a Laptop through the port to the CD changer and manipulate the CD's? Two: Is this system user friendly enough to be install and maintenance by an aircraft mechanic? Mark Shea Director of Operation The Air Group,Inc. mshea@theairgroup.com From aue@nirvis.com Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:05:04 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:05:04 -0800 From: David Aue aue@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Hi Mark, The Slink-e should be fine on an airplane. A laptop hooked to a CD changer is fine. The system really doesn't require any maintenance; just hook it up and go. If you want to do disc title lookups then you will need to connect to the web when new discs have been put in but this can be done simply by taking the laptop out to download the information and then putting it back. David Aue Nirvis Systems -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Terri Shea Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:50 PM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) I am interested in a Slink-e on two levels. I work for a Aircraft Management Company, providing corporate aircraft transportation to business. Which leads me to my first question. We are in the process of purchasing a new aircraft, which will need to be outfitted with paint and interior. The people we are doing this for are very musically inclined, and have asked for the ability to manipulate the music system in the cabin. To this end, we located your web site. Would your system work in this environment? If we were to install a RS 323 port by one of the passenger seats, can we connect a Laptop through the port to the CD changer and manipulate the CD's? Two: Is this system user friendly enough to be install and maintenance by an aircraft mechanic? Mark Shea Director of Operation The Air Group,Inc. mshea@theairgroup.com _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From shawn@sboyle.com 10 Mar 2000 04:47:03 -0800 Date: 10 Mar 2000 04:47:03 -0800 From: shawn@sboyle.com shawn@sboyle.com Subject: [slinkelist] MD Recording Problem I thought about that but my Slink-e is about 50 cable feet away from my players, and I wanted to check first to make sure it wasn't anything else before I ran another cable. If I put it on another port will I lose the "Rec It" function of the 920? I use this quite a bit. Although I suppose I could always get around it with software. -Shawn On Thu, 09 March 2000, "Colby Boles" wrote: > > I'm not sure why, but why don't you put the 920 on a seperate bus? Mine is > on a seperate bus and the music sync works great... > > Colby > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > > Behalf Of shawn@sboyle.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 3:13 PM > > To: slinkelist@nirvis.com > > Subject: [slinkelist] MD Recording Problem > > > > > > I have a CDP-CX300, an MDS-JB920, and an STR-DE835 all on the > > same s-link bus and all connected to port 0 on my Slink-e. If I > > try to record a playlist to a minidisc [either by using Minidisc > > Manager, or manually by pressing "Music Sync" and then starting > > the playlist] the minidisc deck stop recording after the second > > song, every time. This happens even if the two songs are on the > > same disc. For example if I drag a disc from the library window > > to the playlist and then try to record it everything works. But > > if I explode that disc and then try to record it I'll only get > > the first two tracks. I've tried using both the .cde files that > > came with CDJ and the ones that came with Minidisc Manager -- > > same result. Here's a sample from my log file: > > > > cdslr001:time[10010445] > > cdslr001:time[10010446] > > cdsls001:stop > > cdsls001:stop > > cdslr001:stop > > cdslr001:stop > > cdjr:using_player[cd1] > > cdsls001:pause_dt[5314] > > cdsls001:pause_dt[5314] > > cdslr001:pause > > cdslr001:goto_disc[53] > > cdslr001:unloading > > mdslr:stop <---- Why? > > mdslr:disc_info[01010A324800] > > cdslr001:now_at_disc[53] > > cdslr001:displaying_disc[53] > > cdslr001:ready > > cdsls001:query_disc[53] > > cdslr001:disc_info[530116543347] > > cdslr001:playing[53140344] > > cdsls001:timecode_on > > cdslr001:time[14010000] > > > > Thanks, > > -Shawn > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Common sense is not common. > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > > E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com > > Pager: Numeric: 917/296.8405 > > Alpha: pager@sboyle.com or 800.385.CIBC > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your > > own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________________ Common sense is not common. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- E-Mail: shawn@sboyle.com Pager: Numeric: 917/296.8405 Alpha: pager@sboyle.com or 800.385.CIBC _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. From pfaffman@relax.com Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:11:04 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:11:04 -0600 From: Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) Slink-e will be fine, but I'm not sure that a Sony 200 or 300 disk changer would work well on a plane. It's fairly sensitive to being bumped or rocked about. One good bump would knock the disks out of the mechanism. I suspect that 5 disk changers would be fine. I'd think that MP3s would be the way to go on a plane. On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:49:31 -0800, "Terri Shea" said: > I am interested in a Slink-e on two levels. I work for a Aircraft Management > Company, providing corporate aircraft transportation to business. Which > leads me to my first question. We are in the process of purchasing a new > aircraft, which will need to be outfitted with paint and interior. The > people we are doing this for are very musically inclined, and have asked for > the ability to manipulate the music system in the cabin. To this end, we > located your web site. Would your system work in this environment? If we > were to install a RS 323 port by one of the passenger seats, can we connect > a Laptop through the port to the CD changer and manipulate the CD's? Two: Is > this system user friendly enough to be install and maintenance by an > aircraft mechanic? -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com +1-615-343-1720 (office) +1-615-460-9299 (home) http://relax.ltc.vanderbilt.edu/~pfaffman/ Want $10 for free? https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=pfaffman%40relax.com From crose@alltel.net Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:58:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:58:30 -0500 From: Carl J. Rose crose@alltel.net Subject: [slinkelist] IR operation interrupt This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01BF8A77.3030A960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I find that my IR pass through with slinke to be not totally reliable. = I have2 transmitters to equipment (INCLUDING 3 DAISY CHAINED STEREO = RECEIVERS FOR TOTAL HOUSE MUSIC CONTROL). i HAVE 5 ir RECEIVERS PLACED = THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE. i USE THE ir MAINLY FOR VOLUME CONTROL AND THIS IS WHERE THE TROUBLE = PRESENTS ITSELF. Sometimes, THE ir DOES NOT EVEN CHANGE. However, = THE LIGHT INDICATING SIGNAL RECEIVED ON THE SLINKE ir RECEIVER IS LIT..=20 At OTHER TIMES, IN FACT, MOST OF THE TIME, THE IR VOLUME control WILL = WORK. However, THE VOLUME WILL CHANGE. But THE VOLUME IS SLOW TO = CHANGE AND THE EXTRA SEND TIME ON THE ir SEEMS TO CAUSE THE ENTIRE = LOCKUP OF THE cdj SYSTEM, ir & cd CONTROL ET ALL, SEEM TO STOP. aT = TIMES, THE cd PLAY WILL STOP ALTOGETHER AND, AT OTHERS, THE SAME CD WILL = PLAY IN THE MIDDLE OF A LARGE PRE-SELECTED PLAY LIST OF TRACKS. Thanks IN ADVANCE TO ANY ANSWERS TO THIS PROBLEM,, Carl=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01BF8A77.3030A960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I find that my IR pass through with = slinke to be=20 not totally reliable.  I have2 transmitters to equipment (INCLUDING = 3 DAISY=20 CHAINED STEREO RECEIVERS FOR TOTAL HOUSE MUSIC CONTROL).  i = HAVE 5 ir=20 RECEIVERS PLACED THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE.
 
i USE THE ir MAINLY FOR VOLUME CONTROL AND THIS IS WHERE THE = TROUBLE=20 PRESENTS ITSELF.   Sometimes, THE ir DOES NOT EVEN=20 CHANGE.    However, THE LIGHT INDICATING SIGNAL RECEIVED = ON THE=20 SLINKE ir RECEIVER IS LIT.. 
 
 At OTHER TIMES, IN FACT, MOST OF THE TIME, THE IR VOLUME = control WILL=20 WORK.  However, THE VOLUME WILL CHANGE.  But THE VOLUME = IS SLOW=20 TO CHANGE AND THE EXTRA SEND TIME ON THE ir SEEMS TO CAUSE THE ENTIRE = LOCKUP OF=20 THE cdj SYSTEM, ir & cd CONTROL ET ALL, SEEM TO STOP.   aT = TIMES,=20 THE cd PLAY WILL STOP ALTOGETHER AND, AT OTHERS, THE SAME CD WILL = PLAY IN=20 THE MIDDLE OF A LARGE PRE-SELECTED PLAY LIST OF TRACKS.
 
Thanks IN ADVANCE TO ANY ANSWERS TO THIS PROBLEM,,
Carl 
------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01BF8A77.3030A960-- From bkolitz@bellsouth.net Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:30:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:30:02 -0500 From: Brent P. Kolitz bkolitz@bellsouth.net Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ crashes when searching library I've only had my Slink-e for two days, and I've managed to crash CDJ about a dozen times simply by doing a search (I'm talking about searching the discs/tracks in my library, not searching the player for discs). I've been unable to figure out what combination of events precipitates this, although I'm somewhat (but not definitely) sure that searching has only resulted in crashing when music is playing. When CDJ freezes, the music continues to play, and any other open applications/Windows continue to run normally -- CDJ just stops responding and I am forced to CTRL-ALT-DEL out of it. Does anyone have any ideas? From tedsmith@microsoft.com Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:58:35 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:58:35 -0800 From: Ted Smith tedsmith@microsoft.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ crashes when searching library Well, I don't know if it is related, but I somehow had a bad MDAC stack (version 2.5.?) that I assume that I got from some random beta code (I'm a little cavalier about betas :) Anyway about the only thing that I use on a regular basis that was broken was CDJ whenever it tried to save the library. When I installed the released MDAC stack everything was fine. You might try grabbing the "ADO 2.1 Install package From Microsoft" from http://www.nirvis.com/download.htm again. -Ted -----Original Message----- From: Brent P. Kolitz [mailto:bkolitz@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 7:30 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] CDJ crashes when searching library I've only had my Slink-e for two days, and I've managed to crash CDJ about a dozen times simply by doing a search (I'm talking about searching the discs/tracks in my library, not searching the player for discs). I've been unable to figure out what combination of events precipitates this, although I'm somewhat (but not definitely) sure that searching has only resulted in crashing when music is playing. When CDJ freezes, the music continues to play, and any other open applications/Windows continue to run normally -- CDJ just stops responding and I am forced to CTRL-ALT-DEL out of it. Does anyone have any ideas? From THarris@leasedirect.com Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:49:42 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:49:42 -0500 From: Harris, Terry THarris@leasedirect.com Subject: [slinkelist] Slinke on Airplanes I agree with Jay who said a Sony Jukebox on an airplane might not work. Another person suggested MP3. A while back this link was sent to this list. Check it out... http://www.simacorp.com/imix.html -----Original Message----- From: Terri Shea [mailto:tsshea@rglobal.net] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 12:50 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) We are in the process of purchasing a new aircraft Would your system work in this environment? Is this system user friendly enough to be install and maintenance by an aircraft mechanic? Mark Shea Director of Operation The Air Group,Inc. mshea@theairgroup.com From parkdog@ix.netcom.com Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:37:26 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:37:26 -0600 From: Marc Parker parkdog@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] IR Control I'm trying to get an IR device file working with no luck. Any help? Using an X10 #UR19a Universal Remote, I program the AUX1 button as a Pioneer LD player (code 093). This device has only one code, so it sould be a sure thing, right? Open the newest version of EZ Learn. Import the Pioneer IR codes from the Devices file in Nirvis Folder. (This file is called common.cde. It is suppose to have general timings for all Pioneer devices, right?) Convert to TX/RX Format (TX/RX button). Create 3 new commands: Power, Play, Stop using the new/ir signal/ save sequence. Save this file to CDJ folder naming it Myir.cde Launch CDJ, ADD device Myir (Options/Devices) and name it IR in the devices window. Click OK and close options window. CDJ sees the signals, but they are always labeled as NO MATCH IR4(sony). I think this means it is not seeing my new device file. Does CDJ have to be re-started to load the new file? I tried this to no avail. What am I doing wrong? Parker From help@nirvis.com Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:31:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:31:17 -0800 From: Nirvis Help (David) help@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: IR Control HI Marc, Send me your cde file and I'll take a look at it. David Aue Nirvis Systems -----Original Message----- From: Marc Parker [mailto:parkdog@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 10:37 AM To: David Aue; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: IR Control I'm trying to get an IR device file working with no luck. Any help? Using an X10 #UR19a Universal Remote, I program the AUX1 button as a Pioneer LD player (code 093). This device has only one code, so it sould be a sure thing, right? Open the newest version of EZ Learn. Import the Pioneer IR codes from the Devices file in Nirvis Folder. (This file is called common.cde. It is suppose to have general timings for all Pioneer devices, right?) Convert to TX/RX Format (TX/RX button). Create 3 new commands: Power, Play, Stop using the new/ir signal/ save sequence. Save this file to CDJ folder naming it Myir.cde Launch CDJ, ADD device Myir (Options/Devices) and name it IR in the devices window. Click OK and close options window. CDJ sees the signals, but they are always labeled as NO MATCH IR4(sony). I think this means it is not seeing my new device file. Does CDJ have to be re-started to load the new file? I tried this to no avail. What am I doing wrong? Parker From ben@lawrence.net Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:07:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:07:56 -0500 From: Ben Lawrence ben@lawrence.net Subject: [slinkelist] Sony Slink lawsuit? > -----Original Message----- > From: MRJonesTEX@aol.com [mailto:MRJonesTEX@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 4:13 PM > To: ben@lawrence.net > Subject: Sony TVs, Receivers, CDs, VCRs, DVDs with S-Link Litigation - > yourshare > > > If you have purchased a Sony TV, DVD, CD, VCR, or Receiver with > the S-Link > feature (or supposedly with S-Link in the case of the KV-27V66) . > . . you may > well find that you have an opportunity to secure a refund of part > or all of > your purchase price, or a replacement with a new unit at no cost to you. > > As I was replacing/upgrading my stereo-television equipment in > our den with > newer equipment several years ago, I paid the extra money to make > sure that > all of the individual components had the S-Link feature. > > Guess what . . . when I finally finished purchasing all my components and > tried to hook them up together so they would work conveniently, I > couldn't > get them to work. > > Dozens of hours and multiple telephone calls to Sony didn't work > and I gave > up! > > Some of you have probably been accumulating Sony A/V components > with S-Link > and won't know that it apparently doesn't work as advertised > until you pay a > premium to acquire other Sony components. > > What I didn't know was that apparently there are "known > incompatibilities" > (per Sony technical rep) among Sony components with the S-Link > feature . . . > that many of us were finding that purchasing components with the S-Link > feature didn't assure "seamlessly" integrating our expensive Sony > products. . > . and, that a complaint had even been made to the Federal Trade > Commission > about this apparently fraudulent advertising and lack of functionality. Anybody else get this e-mail? Don't know who this guy is or where he got my e-mail but I am guessing he culled it from this list. Regards, Ben Lawrence Melbourne, FL > > The final straw came when I purchased a new television and DVD for our > bedroom from a store here in Austin - both TV and DVD from Sony, > supposedly > S-Link compatible - and discovered that they weren't. > Incredibly, despite > the fact that the Home Theatre Planner, the Sony website, and the > Fax-on-Demand service said the KV-27V66 had S-Link . . . there > was no female > S-Link connector on the rear of the set. > > Isn't the Internet wonderful . . . after hours with Circuit City and Sony > trying to fix my problem and to make sure that no-one else was a > victim of > this misrepresentation . . . I went on the Net and discovered > that many of > you had the same problems as me. > > And that quite a few had complained to Sony individually and > gotten virtually > nowhere. > > Finally, a couple of us came to the realization that Sony had no > intention of > responding to us individually despite the inherent problems and apparent > misrepresentation with S-Link connections . . . that although > they knew that > they had design flaws which precluded functionality, they were > stonewalling > and not being helpful. > > We are getting a law firm to represent those of us who have > purchased a Sony > product (supposedly with the S-Link feature) . . . and trying to > prove that . > . . "united we stand, divided we fall"! > > If you would like to participate by joining our group (there will > be no cost > to you), please reply with the following: > > Your Name > Your Address > Your Telephone Number > Your Fax Number (if you have one) > Your E-mail address > The Model Numbers of your Sony product with S-Link > Approximate date of purchase and store purchased from > > We'll keep you posted . . . Thanks > > Yours in "The Link" > > Milton Jones > mrjonestex@aol.com > 512/327-8252 From parkdog@ix.netcom.com Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:14:50 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:14:50 -0600 From: Marc Parker parkdog@ix.netcom.com Subject: [slinkelist] Xantech to Slink-E IR Has anyone on the list connected a Xantech IR dist sys to Slink-E? If so how about details and how well it works comments? Thanks Parker From davidmcc@midsouth.rr.com Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:54:14 -0600 Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:54:14 -0600 From: David McConnell davidmcc@midsouth.rr.com Subject: [slinkelist] Slink-e & Sony TV Can you use the Slink-e to control a Sony TV (KV35V68) with S-link/Control-S through an s-link port, or only through an IR port? From bod@bod.org Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:26:48 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:26:48 -0800 From: Paul Chambers bod@bod.org Subject: [slinkelist] (no subject) At 7:11 AM -0600 3/10/00, Jay Pfaffman wrote: I'm with Jay - one rough landing, and the CDs would be all over the inside of the changer. That would mean removing the cover and putting all the CDs back into the carousel. The tricky bit would be making sure they all went back into the _right_ slots - the sony changers remember the track/title information by physical slot number, not by checking the actual CD that's in the slot. They also have to be inserted with the correct orientation - label side to the right. I'm not sure this is something an aircraft mechanic will have come across before. I agree with Jay - you'd be better off with a solution using a jukebox based on a hard disk. I'd suggest that you first take a look at the various MP3 jukeboxes designed for automobile use, since they're likely to be more shock-resistant. There's a list at: http://hardware.mp3.com/hardware/all/car/ The neatest one I've seen is the 'empeg car'. One consideration with MP3 systems - make sure the system supports some of the higher bitrates (at least 128 kbps, preferably more than that). Compressing the audio does degrade the quality a little, but most people can't hear significant differences between 128 kbps MP3 and CD audio. But if you have musically-inclined customers, they may - so you'd want to look at higher bit rates, (e.g. 160 kbps, 192 kbps, or more) to be sure they'll be satisfied. Though there's a fair amount of background noise in a plane in flight, my guess is that they'll first hear the system in the hanger, and first impressions count :-) I think the solution that would probably meet your needs best would be one of the professional hard-disk jukeboxes from Arrakis Systems (http://www.arrakis-systems.com). Their products were originally designed for professional markets, like radio stations. They do come with PC-based control software, but I've not used it. What makes them particularly suitable for your application is that they support multiple independent zones, so you could have different music playing for different passengers (unit comes with three zones, and can be expanded to 96). The 'pro' model supports balanced audio outputs - I don't know how long your wiring runs will be, but I'd imagine that the environment is electrically 'noisy'. While you could get balanced line drivers/receivers separately, it's better if the device actually outputs balanced audio in the first place. XLR connectors (the type used for balanced audio) are a lot more robust - and actually lock together. I'd be wary of temperature cycling and vibration working normal RCA connectors loose. If you do need to use RCA connectors, I would recommend looking at the line of 'locking' RCA connectors from WBT (http://www.wbtusa.com/). Their stuff is very expensive by consumer standards, but perhaps not by aircraft standards. It would be worth the extra money if it avoided connectors working loose. If those do prove to be too expensive, at least use the 'turbine' cut RCA plugs that MonsterCable (http://www.monstercable.com/) uses on its better cables - they hold pretty tight. Hope that gives you something to go on. Paul >On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:49:31 -0800, "Terri Shea" said: > >I am interested in a Slink-e on two levels. I work for a Aircraft Management >Company, providing corporate aircraft transportation to business. Which >leads me to my first question. We are in the process of purchasing a new >aircraft, which will need to be outfitted with paint and interior. The >people we are doing this for are very musically inclined, and have asked for >the ability to manipulate the music system in the cabin. To this end, we >located your web site. Would your system work in this environment? If we >were to install a RS 323 port by one of the passenger seats, can we connect >a Laptop through the port to the CD changer and manipulate the CD's? Two: Is >this system user friendly enough to be install and maintenance by an >aircraft mechanic? _________________________________________________________ contact info: http://www.planetall.com/main.asp?cid=35384 my web site: http://www.bod.org From bkolitz@bellsouth.net Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:56:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:56:58 -0500 From: Brent P. Kolitz bkolitz@bellsouth.net Subject: [slinkelist] Begging for great GUI for CDJ! This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a brand-new user of Nirvis' products (and one hoping to eventually = integrate almost 3,000 CDs into the system), I've read each and every = archived post on the BBS. Since July of 1998 to the present, there has = been consistent interest in a slick and easy to use GUI for CDJ that = would be approachable by spouses, guests, etc. and would be more suited = for display on television screens or even on touchpad LCDs (when that = becomes affordable). Something just like Escient's user interfaces = comes immediately to mind (there are Flash demos of two different GUIs = at: http://www.escient.com/products.htm). They could even be further = customized with "skins," and ultimately a "GUI builder" application that = would enable the user to customize button positions, etc. Aside from some Nirvis users who have written front ends that are very = specific to their own home automation setups (e.g., Barry Gordon), and = others like Keith Alexander, who has taken a first step with PartyGUI = (which admittedly is extremely limited, both in terms of functionality = and visual slickness), there appears to have been virtually no progress = in making this become a reality for the Nirvis user base. I feel guilty complaining, rather than doing something about, but I have = no programming skills, only ideas. In an old archived post, Colby = himself mentioned that he was going to take care of this but apparently = later decided that he would leave it to the rest of us. Colby, I realize that you are immensely busy supporting CDJ, the = Slink-e, and the DXS as it is, but would you please consider taking on = this much-needed task (either as a separate program or as a GUI "mode" = or "view" of CDJ itself)? This feature seems to be eagerly desired by a = great majority of your users. Thanks for your consideration and support, Brent ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As a brand-new user of Nirvis' products (and one hoping to = eventually=20 integrate almost 3,000 CDs into the system), I've read each and every = archived=20 post on the BBS.  Since July of 1998 to the present, there has been = consistent interest in a slick and easy to use GUI for CDJ that would be = approachable by spouses, guests, etc. and would be more suited for = display on=20 television screens or even on touchpad LCDs (when that becomes=20 affordable).  Something just like Escient's user interfaces comes=20 immediately to mind (there are Flash demos of two different GUIs at: http://www.escient.com/produ= cts.htm). =20 They could even be further customized with "skins," and ultimately a = "GUI=20 builder" application that would enable the user to customize button = positions,=20 etc.
 
Aside from some Nirvis users who have written front ends that are = very=20 specific to their own home automation setups (e.g., Barry Gordon), and = others=20 like Keith Alexander, who has taken a first step with PartyGUI (which = admittedly=20 is extremely limited, both in terms of functionality and visual = slickness),=20 there appears to have been virtually no progress in making this become a = reality=20 for the Nirvis user base.
 
I feel guilty complaining, rather than doing something about, but I = have no=20 programming skills, only ideas.  In an old archived post, Colby = himself=20 mentioned that he was going to take care of this but apparently later = decided=20 that he would leave it to the rest of us.
 
Colby, I realize that you are immensely busy supporting CDJ, the = Slink-e,=20 and the DXS as it is, but would you please consider taking on this = much-needed=20 task (either as a separate program or as a GUI "mode" or "view" of CDJ=20 itself)?  This feature seems to be eagerly desired by a great = majority of=20 your users.
 
Thanks for your consideration and support,
 
Brent
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0-- From mcody@mindspring.com Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:08:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:08:40 -0500 From: Michael Cody mcody@mindspring.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Begging for great GUI for CDJ! For what it's worth - having a GUI that could work on Windows CE or a Palm Device would be very helpful (and profitable if one chose to charge for it). Even a Windows based one would be great now that TV outs and Digital TV's are becoming more popular. Any programmers out there that are considering whether this would be worthwhile, I for one would pay for a good GUI that could be used on a handheld ( and I don'th think I am alone. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 9:47 AM Subject: slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #202 - 1 msg > > Send slinkelist mailing list submissions to > slinkelist@nirvis.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > slinkelist-request@nirvis.com > You can reach the person managing the list at > slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of slinkelist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Begging for great GUI for CDJ! (Brent P. Kolitz) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Brent P. Kolitz" > To: , , > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:56:58 -0500 > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0" > Subject: [slinkelist] Begging for great GUI for CDJ! > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > As a brand-new user of Nirvis' products (and one hoping to eventually = > integrate almost 3,000 CDs into the system), I've read each and every = > archived post on the BBS. Since July of 1998 to the present, there has = > been consistent interest in a slick and easy to use GUI for CDJ that = > would be approachable by spouses, guests, etc. and would be more suited = > for display on television screens or even on touchpad LCDs (when that = > becomes affordable). Something just like Escient's user interfaces = > comes immediately to mind (there are Flash demos of two different GUIs = > at: http://www.escient.com/products.htm). They could even be further = > customized with "skins," and ultimately a "GUI builder" application that = > would enable the user to customize button positions, etc. > > Aside from some Nirvis users who have written front ends that are very = > specific to their own home automation setups (e.g., Barry Gordon), and = > others like Keith Alexander, who has taken a first step with PartyGUI = > (which admittedly is extremely limited, both in terms of functionality = > and visual slickness), there appears to have been virtually no progress = > in making this become a reality for the Nirvis user base. > > I feel guilty complaining, rather than doing something about, but I have = > no programming skills, only ideas. In an old archived post, Colby = > himself mentioned that he was going to take care of this but apparently = > later decided that he would leave it to the rest of us. > > Colby, I realize that you are immensely busy supporting CDJ, the = > Slink-e, and the DXS as it is, but would you please consider taking on = > this much-needed task (either as a separate program or as a GUI "mode" = > or "view" of CDJ itself)? This feature seems to be eagerly desired by a = > great majority of your users. > > Thanks for your consideration and support, > > Brent > > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
As a brand-new user of Nirvis' products (and one hoping to = > eventually=20 > integrate almost 3,000 CDs into the system), I've read each and every = > archived=20 > post on the BBS.  Since July of 1998 to the present, there has been = > > consistent interest in a slick and easy to use GUI for CDJ that would be = > > approachable by spouses, guests, etc. and would be more suited for = > display on=20 > television screens or even on touchpad LCDs (when that becomes=20 > affordable).  Something just like Escient's user interfaces comes=20 > immediately to mind (there are Flash demos of two different GUIs at: href=3D"http://www.escient.com/products.htm">http://www.escient.com/produ= > cts.htm). =20 > They could even be further customized with "skins," and ultimately a = > "GUI=20 > builder" application that would enable the user to customize button = > positions,=20 > etc.
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Aside from some Nirvis users who have written front ends that are = > very=20 > specific to their own home automation setups (e.g., Barry Gordon), and = > others=20 > like Keith Alexander, who has taken a first step with PartyGUI (which = > admittedly=20 > is extremely limited, both in terms of functionality and visual = > slickness),=20 > there appears to have been virtually no progress in making this become a = > reality=20 > for the Nirvis user base.
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I feel guilty complaining, rather than doing something about, but I = > have no=20 > programming skills, only ideas.  In an old archived post, Colby = > himself=20 > mentioned that he was going to take care of this but apparently later = > decided=20 > that he would leave it to the rest of us.
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Colby, I realize that you are immensely busy supporting CDJ, the = > Slink-e,=20 > and the DXS as it is, but would you please consider taking on this = > much-needed=20 > task (either as a separate program or as a GUI "mode" or "view" of CDJ=20 > itself)?  This feature seems to be eagerly desired by a great = > majority of=20 > your users.
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Thanks for your consideration and support,
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Brent
> > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0-- > > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > End of slinkelist Digest From alexanders@rocketmail.com Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:16:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:16:37 -0800 (PST) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? I firmly realize PartyGUI is not a great GUI, but what sort of features are you looking for? I have expanded the function of PartyGUI a good bit (admittedly this is just a hobby). Get the latest at www.geocities.com/nurse_alexander. What are you looking for it to do? I built something that addressed my specific needs, but would love the input of those that really are looking for something slick. What should it do? How do you want it to do it. I am willing to give it away, but I just started with a picture in my mind. Features are easy to add but I need feedback. Let me know, I am always looking for someway to use up my spare time (heh heh) and was about to start on a browser version of the current PartyGUI (but that is hard, features are easy) Draw me a picture, etc. Thanks, KJA alexanders@rocketmail.com keith.alexander@gartner.com ===== Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From gregy@pdq.net Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:20:11 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:20:11 -0600 From: Greg Young gregy@pdq.net Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Begging for great GUI for CDJ! I agree 100% - I would pay for such an application. Although my technically minded 13 year old son and I have no trouble with CDJ, the overall interface is too complex for my wife. Although she's competent with the applications she needs to use (word processing, email, web browsing), she has complained about the jukeboxes and would just as soon go back to our 5 CD carousel. A visual application would suit her needs. Greg -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Michael Cody Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 9:09 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Begging for great GUI for CDJ! For what it's worth - having a GUI that could work on Windows CE or a Palm Device would be very helpful (and profitable if one chose to charge for it). Even a Windows based one would be great now that TV outs and Digital TV's are becoming more popular. Any programmers out there that are considering whether this would be worthwhile, I for one would pay for a good GUI that could be used on a handheld ( and I don'th think I am alone. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 9:47 AM Subject: slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #202 - 1 msg > > Send slinkelist mailing list submissions to > slinkelist@nirvis.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > slinkelist-request@nirvis.com > You can reach the person managing the list at > slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of slinkelist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Begging for great GUI for CDJ! (Brent P. Kolitz) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Brent P. Kolitz" > To: , , > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:56:58 -0500 > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0" > Subject: [slinkelist] Begging for great GUI for CDJ! > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > As a brand-new user of Nirvis' products (and one hoping to eventually = > integrate almost 3,000 CDs into the system), I've read each and every = > archived post on the BBS. Since July of 1998 to the present, there has = > been consistent interest in a slick and easy to use GUI for CDJ that = > would be approachable by spouses, guests, etc. and would be more suited = > for display on television screens or even on touchpad LCDs (when that = > becomes affordable). Something just like Escient's user interfaces = > comes immediately to mind (there are Flash demos of two different GUIs = > at: http://www.escient.com/products.htm). They could even be further = > customized with "skins," and ultimately a "GUI builder" application that = > would enable the user to customize button positions, etc. > > Aside from some Nirvis users who have written front ends that are very = > specific to their own home automation setups (e.g., Barry Gordon), and = > others like Keith Alexander, who has taken a first step with PartyGUI = > (which admittedly is extremely limited, both in terms of functionality = > and visual slickness), there appears to have been virtually no progress = > in making this become a reality for the Nirvis user base. > > I feel guilty complaining, rather than doing something about, but I have = > no programming skills, only ideas. In an old archived post, Colby = > himself mentioned that he was going to take care of this but apparently = > later decided that he would leave it to the rest of us. > > Colby, I realize that you are immensely busy supporting CDJ, the = > Slink-e, and the DXS as it is, but would you please consider taking on = > this much-needed task (either as a separate program or as a GUI "mode" = > or "view" of CDJ itself)? This feature seems to be eagerly desired by a = > great majority of your users. > > Thanks for your consideration and support, > > Brent > > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
As a brand-new user of Nirvis' products (and one hoping to = > eventually=20 > integrate almost 3,000 CDs into the system), I've read each and every = > archived=20 > post on the BBS.  Since July of 1998 to the present, there has been = > > consistent interest in a slick and easy to use GUI for CDJ that would be = > > approachable by spouses, guests, etc. and would be more suited for = > display on=20 > television screens or even on touchpad LCDs (when that becomes=20 > affordable).  Something just like Escient's user interfaces comes=20 > immediately to mind (there are Flash demos of two different GUIs at: href=3D"http://www.escient.com/products.htm">http://www.escient.com/produ= > cts.htm). =20 > They could even be further customized with "skins," and ultimately a = > "GUI=20 > builder" application that would enable the user to customize button = > positions,=20 > etc.
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Aside from some Nirvis users who have written front ends that are = > very=20 > specific to their own home automation setups (e.g., Barry Gordon), and = > others=20 > like Keith Alexander, who has taken a first step with PartyGUI (which = > admittedly=20 > is extremely limited, both in terms of functionality and visual = > slickness),=20 > there appears to have been virtually no progress in making this become a = > reality=20 > for the Nirvis user base.
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I feel guilty complaining, rather than doing something about, but I = > have no=20 > programming skills, only ideas.  In an old archived post, Colby = > himself=20 > mentioned that he was going to take care of this but apparently later = > decided=20 > that he would leave it to the rest of us.
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Colby, I realize that you are immensely busy supporting CDJ, the = > Slink-e,=20 > and the DXS as it is, but would you please consider taking on this = > much-needed=20 > task (either as a separate program or as a GUI "mode" or "view" of CDJ=20 > itself)?  This feature seems to be eagerly desired by a great = > majority of=20 > your users.
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Thanks for your consideration and support,
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Brent
> > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0-- > > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > End of slinkelist Digest _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From shilts@holontech.com Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:35:35 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:35:35 -0700 From: Jim Shilts shilts@holontech.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? I would really like to see something that looks and works more like TuneBase (for those not familiar, details on TuneBase can be found here http://www.tunebase.com/products.htm) I hope TuneBase isn't a dirty word here. Tunebase has an easy to use interface, but is not nearly as customizable as CDJ. It also costs $3,000 for the entry level model. Jim Shilts ----- Original Message ----- From: keith alexander To: Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 8:16 AM Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? > I firmly realize PartyGUI is not a great GUI, but what > sort of features are you looking for? I have expanded > the function of PartyGUI a good bit (admittedly this > is just a hobby). Get the latest at > www.geocities.com/nurse_alexander. What are you > looking for it to do? I built something that > addressed my specific needs, but would love the input > of those that really are looking for something slick. > What should it do? How do you want it to do it. I am > willing to give it away, but I just started with a > picture in my mind. Features are easy to add but I > need feedback. > > Let me know, I am always looking for someway to use up > my spare time (heh heh) and was about to start on a > browser version of the current PartyGUI (but that is > hard, features are easy) Draw me a picture, etc. > > Thanks, > KJA > alexanders@rocketmail.com > keith.alexander@gartner.com > > ===== > Keith Alexander > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > From sonnie@casema.net Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:09:13 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:09:13 +0100 From: Sonnie sonnie@casema.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? Well.... There is a company that's close to releasing one. This will be a complete system (PC, Slinke, TV Interface, Mouse etc.) and also I expect available as a seperate app. (Win 98 for now). Easy to use interface, designed for Touchscreen, but will also cool for TV with Remote Mouse (or normal PC). Designed to be used on a 800*600 screen and buttens big enough to touch, but with an interface to love :-) Much nices than Escient, with the power from CDJ and a cool interface. There are still a view issues to be ironed out and a few small changes required to CDJ (which will be running in the background), but I expect that something will be release fairly soon... Hang in there, something is on the way... I hope to have a weblink with some screen interfaces shortly. J. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Jim Shilts Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 5:36 PM To: keith alexander; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? I would really like to see something that looks and works more like TuneBase (for those not familiar, details on TuneBase can be found here http://www.tunebase.com/products.htm) I hope TuneBase isn't a dirty word here. Tunebase has an easy to use interface, but is not nearly as customizable as CDJ. It also costs $3,000 for the entry level model. Jim Shilts ----- Original Message ----- From: keith alexander To: Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 8:16 AM Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? > I firmly realize PartyGUI is not a great GUI, but what > sort of features are you looking for? I have expanded > the function of PartyGUI a good bit (admittedly this > is just a hobby). Get the latest at > www.geocities.com/nurse_alexander. What are you > looking for it to do? I built something that > addressed my specific needs, but would love the input > of those that really are looking for something slick. > What should it do? How do you want it to do it. I am > willing to give it away, but I just started with a > picture in my mind. Features are easy to add but I > need feedback. > > Let me know, I am always looking for someway to use up > my spare time (heh heh) and was about to start on a > browser version of the current PartyGUI (but that is > hard, features are easy) Draw me a picture, etc. > > Thanks, > KJA > alexanders@rocketmail.com > keith.alexander@gartner.com > > ===== > Keith Alexander > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From alexanders@rocketmail.com Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:50 -0800 (PST) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? Selling... that would be a shame. I really want to keep giving my Partygui away . I plan to keep enhancing it as well, so I hope I don't interfere with your business model. On the other hand anything that pumps up the sales of Slink-e is good for Colby, and a consumer friendly version would really broaden their market (plus there is certainly a lot of room for profit (a packaged solution w/Nirvis would be considerably cheaper than escient). Good luck to you. KJA www.geocities.com/nurse_alexander --- Sonnie wrote: > Well.... > > There is a company that's close to releasing one. > This will be a complete system (PC, Slinke, TV > Interface, Mouse etc.) and > also I expect available as a seperate app. (Win 98 > for now). > > Easy to use interface, designed for Touchscreen, but > will also cool for TV > with Remote Mouse (or normal PC). > Designed to be used on a 800*600 screen and buttens > big enough to touch, but > with an interface to love :-) > > Much nices than Escient, with the power from CDJ and > a cool interface. > > There are still a view issues to be ironed out and a > few small changes > required to CDJ (which will be running in the > background), but I expect that > something will be release fairly soon... > > Hang in there, something is on the way... > I hope to have a weblink with some screen interfaces > shortly. > > J. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Jim Shilts > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 5:36 PM > To: keith alexander; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? > > > I would really like to see something that looks and > works more like TuneBase > (for those not familiar, details on TuneBase can be > found here > http://www.tunebase.com/products.htm) > I hope TuneBase isn't a dirty word here. Tunebase > has an easy to use > interface, but is not nearly as customizable as CDJ. > It also costs $3,000 > for the entry level model. > > Jim Shilts > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: keith alexander > To: > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 8:16 AM > Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? > > > > I firmly realize PartyGUI is not a great GUI, but > what > > sort of features are you looking for? I have > expanded > > the function of PartyGUI a good bit (admittedly > this > > is just a hobby). Get the latest at > > www.geocities.com/nurse_alexander. What are you > > looking for it to do? I built something that > > addressed my specific needs, but would love the > input > > of those that really are looking for something > slick. > > What should it do? How do you want it to do it. I > am > > willing to give it away, but I just started with a > > picture in my mind. Features are easy to add but > I > > need feedback. > > > > Let me know, I am always looking for someway to > use up > > my spare time (heh heh) and was about to start on > a > > browser version of the current PartyGUI (but that > is > > hard, features are easy) Draw me a picture, etc. > > > > Thanks, > > KJA > > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > keith.alexander@gartner.com > > > > ===== > > Keith Alexander > > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > ===== Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From tomspeight@home.com Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:18:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:18:30 -0700 From: Tom Speight tomspeight@home.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Begging for great GUI for CDJ! me too --- Tom Michael Cody wrote: > > For what it's worth - having a GUI that could work on Windows CE or a Palm > Device would be very helpful (and profitable if one chose to charge for it). > Even a Windows based one would be great now that TV outs and Digital TV's > are becoming more popular. Any programmers out there that are considering > whether this would be worthwhile, I for one would pay for a good GUI that > could be used on a handheld ( and I don'th think I am alone. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 9:47 AM > Subject: slinkelist digest, Vol 1 #202 - 1 msg > > > > > Send slinkelist mailing list submissions to > > slinkelist@nirvis.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > slinkelist-request@nirvis.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > > "Re: Contents of slinkelist digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Begging for great GUI for CDJ! (Brent P. Kolitz) > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > From: "Brent P. Kolitz" > > To: , , > > > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:56:58 -0500 > > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0" > > Subject: [slinkelist] Begging for great GUI for CDJ! > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > As a brand-new user of Nirvis' products (and one hoping to eventually = > > integrate almost 3,000 CDs into the system), I've read each and every = > > archived post on the BBS. Since July of 1998 to the present, there has = > > been consistent interest in a slick and easy to use GUI for CDJ that = > > would be approachable by spouses, guests, etc. and would be more suited = > > for display on television screens or even on touchpad LCDs (when that = > > becomes affordable). Something just like Escient's user interfaces = > > comes immediately to mind (there are Flash demos of two different GUIs = > > at: http://www.escient.com/products.htm). They could even be further = > > customized with "skins," and ultimately a "GUI builder" application that = > > would enable the user to customize button positions, etc. > > > > Aside from some Nirvis users who have written front ends that are very = > > specific to their own home automation setups (e.g., Barry Gordon), and = > > others like Keith Alexander, who has taken a first step with PartyGUI = > > (which admittedly is extremely limited, both in terms of functionality = > > and visual slickness), there appears to have been virtually no progress = > > in making this become a reality for the Nirvis user base. > > > > I feel guilty complaining, rather than doing something about, but I have = > > no programming skills, only ideas. In an old archived post, Colby = > > himself mentioned that he was going to take care of this but apparently = > > later decided that he would leave it to the rest of us. > > > > Colby, I realize that you are immensely busy supporting CDJ, the = > > Slink-e, and the DXS as it is, but would you please consider taking on = > > this much-needed task (either as a separate program or as a GUI "mode" = > > or "view" of CDJ itself)? This feature seems to be eagerly desired by a = > > great majority of your users. > > > > Thanks for your consideration and support, > > > > Brent > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > > > > > > >
As a brand-new user of Nirvis' products (and one hoping to = > > eventually=20 > > integrate almost 3,000 CDs into the system), I've read each and every = > > archived=20 > > post on the BBS.  Since July of 1998 to the present, there has been = > > > > consistent interest in a slick and easy to use GUI for CDJ that would be = > > > > approachable by spouses, guests, etc. and would be more suited for = > > display on=20 > > television screens or even on touchpad LCDs (when that becomes=20 > > affordable).  Something just like Escient's user interfaces comes=20 > > immediately to mind (there are Flash demos of two different GUIs at: > href=3D"http://www.escient.com/products.htm">http://www.escient.com/produ= > > cts.htm). =20 > > They could even be further customized with "skins," and ultimately a = > > "GUI=20 > > builder" application that would enable the user to customize button = > > positions,=20 > > etc.
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Aside from some Nirvis users who have written front ends that are = > > very=20 > > specific to their own home automation setups (e.g., Barry Gordon), and = > > others=20 > > like Keith Alexander, who has taken a first step with PartyGUI (which = > > admittedly=20 > > is extremely limited, both in terms of functionality and visual = > > slickness),=20 > > there appears to have been virtually no progress in making this become a = > > reality=20 > > for the Nirvis user base.
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I feel guilty complaining, rather than doing something about, but I = > > have no=20 > > programming skills, only ideas.  In an old archived post, Colby = > > himself=20 > > mentioned that he was going to take care of this but apparently later = > > decided=20 > > that he would leave it to the rest of us.
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Colby, I realize that you are immensely busy supporting CDJ, the = > > Slink-e,=20 > > and the DXS as it is, but would you please consider taking on this = > > much-needed=20 > > task (either as a separate program or as a GUI "mode" or "view" of CDJ=20 > > itself)?  This feature seems to be eagerly desired by a great = > > majority of=20 > > your users.
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Thanks for your consideration and support,
> >
 
> >
Brent
> > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8CCA.16B4E6E0-- > > > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > End of slinkelist Digest > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From elron@motu.com Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:48:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:48:09 -0500 From: Elron A. Yellin elron@motu.com Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Begging for great GUI for CDJ! Haven't used CDJ much since I'm still waiting for my slink-e to arrive, but I have a suggestion for those who want a different GUI. Make a web interface. With adequate web construction software, perhaps Adobe GoLive, you won't need formal programming skills. Elron From hieter@fishkill.vnet.ibm.com Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:11:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:11:06 -0500 From: Nate Hieter hieter@fishkill.vnet.ibm.com Subject: [slinkelist] remote control on steroids I've seen a couple posts where people have expressed an interest in running CDJ on a thin client. Here is a picture of an almost-thin client: http://www.linux-hacker.net/iopener/ You would need to buy a little USB device to provide the serial and ethernet ports, but you wouldn't need a disk drive as large as the one in his example. The interesting deal is that is relatively small and not all that ugly to look at. It may actually pass the Spousal Living Room Standards Committee. ;) Although the base price is only $99, it may no longer be price-competitive after you get all the doo-dads necessary to make it work. Hard to tell. The added bonus of Angela being able to access her web-based e-mail and do a little browsing in a comfortable environment like the living room will probably make it a worthwhile endeavor for me. My regards, Nathaniel Hieter From bkolitz@bellsouth.net Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:12:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:12:12 -0500 From: Brent P. Kolitz bkolitz@bellsouth.net Subject: [slinkelist] Re: Begging for a great GUI This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF8D17.A7783360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, judging from the response so far, it looks like I didn't = overestimate the desire for a slick, visually-appealing GUI. I've = already been in contact with Keith regarding helping him on the = conceptual end with his PartyGUI, and I firmly agree with Jim that = something along the lines of Escient's TuneBase or TuneBase Pro software = is the direction in which to head -- we already have all of that = functionality working, we just need to put a prettier face on it! I'm = intrigued regarding the post about that pre-packaged system (with new = GUI software), but I sure would hate to have to dump money into software = -- I need to spend it on more changers... ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF8D17.A7783360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, judging from the response so far, it looks like I didn't = overestimate=20 the desire for a slick, visually-appealing GUI.  I've already been = in=20 contact with Keith regarding helping him on the conceptual end with his=20 PartyGUI, and I firmly agree with Jim that something along the lines of=20 Escient's TuneBase or TuneBase Pro software is the direction in which to = head --=20 we already have all of that functionality working, we just need to put a = prettier face on it!  I'm intrigued regarding the post about that=20 pre-packaged system (with new GUI software), but I sure would hate to = have to=20 dump money into software -- I need to spend it on more=20 changers...
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF8D17.A7783360-- From gregy@pdq.net Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:52:05 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:52:05 -0600 From: Greg Young gregy@pdq.net Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? I hope in the process whoever builds this will support mp3 playback and albums defined in the CDJ database. I have about 350 albums already converted to mp3 format (yes, they're all legitimate) and would very much like to include them. At the moment Keith's app doesn't appear to do that. Greg -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Sonnie Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 10:09 AM To: Jim Shilts; keith alexander; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: RE: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? Well.... There is a company that's close to releasing one. This will be a complete system (PC, Slinke, TV Interface, Mouse etc.) and also I expect available as a seperate app. (Win 98 for now). Easy to use interface, designed for Touchscreen, but will also cool for TV with Remote Mouse (or normal PC). Designed to be used on a 800*600 screen and buttens big enough to touch, but with an interface to love :-) Much nices than Escient, with the power from CDJ and a cool interface. There are still a view issues to be ironed out and a few small changes required to CDJ (which will be running in the background), but I expect that something will be release fairly soon... Hang in there, something is on the way... I hope to have a weblink with some screen interfaces shortly. J. -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Jim Shilts Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 5:36 PM To: keith alexander; slinkelist@nirvis.com Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? I would really like to see something that looks and works more like TuneBase (for those not familiar, details on TuneBase can be found here http://www.tunebase.com/products.htm) I hope TuneBase isn't a dirty word here. Tunebase has an easy to use interface, but is not nearly as customizable as CDJ. It also costs $3,000 for the entry level model. Jim Shilts ----- Original Message ----- From: keith alexander To: Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 8:16 AM Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? > I firmly realize PartyGUI is not a great GUI, but what > sort of features are you looking for? I have expanded > the function of PartyGUI a good bit (admittedly this > is just a hobby). Get the latest at > www.geocities.com/nurse_alexander. What are you > looking for it to do? I built something that > addressed my specific needs, but would love the input > of those that really are looking for something slick. > What should it do? How do you want it to do it. I am > willing to give it away, but I just started with a > picture in my mind. Features are easy to add but I > need feedback. > > Let me know, I am always looking for someway to use up > my spare time (heh heh) and was about to start on a > browser version of the current PartyGUI (but that is > hard, features are easy) Draw me a picture, etc. > > Thanks, > KJA > alexanders@rocketmail.com > keith.alexander@gartner.com > > ===== > Keith Alexander > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist _______________________________________________ slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist From alexanders@rocketmail.com Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:09:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:09:25 -0800 (PST) From: keith alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? I can't imagine why it wouldn't....unless it is album-less... that is perhaps it. I look at the albums table to drive PartyGUI, if your MP3 in Slinke are just songs without an album, that would be an issue, otherwise if they are in CDJ I would think I would pick them up (never thought of it, I will try and see). Thanks! KJA --- Greg Young wrote: > I hope in the process whoever builds this will > support mp3 playback and > albums defined in the CDJ database. I have about > 350 albums already > converted to mp3 format (yes, they're all > legitimate) and would very much > like to include them. At the moment Keith's app > doesn't appear to do that. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Sonnie > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 10:09 AM > To: Jim Shilts; keith alexander; > slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? > > Well.... > > There is a company that's close to releasing one. > This will be a complete system (PC, Slinke, TV > Interface, Mouse etc.) and > also I expect available as a seperate app. (Win 98 > for now). > > Easy to use interface, designed for Touchscreen, but > will also cool for TV > with Remote Mouse (or normal PC). > Designed to be used on a 800*600 screen and buttens > big enough to touch, but > with an interface to love :-) > > Much nices than Escient, with the power from CDJ and > a cool interface. > > There are still a view issues to be ironed out and a > few small changes > required to CDJ (which will be running in the > background), but I expect that > something will be release fairly soon... > > Hang in there, something is on the way... > I hope to have a weblink with some screen interfaces > shortly. > > J. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com > [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On > Behalf Of Jim Shilts > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 5:36 PM > To: keith alexander; slinkelist@nirvis.com > Subject: Re: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? > > > I would really like to see something that looks and > works more like TuneBase > (for those not familiar, details on TuneBase can be > found here > http://www.tunebase.com/products.htm) > I hope TuneBase isn't a dirty word here. Tunebase > has an easy to use > interface, but is not nearly as customizable as CDJ. > It also costs $3,000 > for the entry level model. > > Jim Shilts > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: keith alexander > To: > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 8:16 AM > Subject: [slinkelist] RE: Great GUI? > > > > I firmly realize PartyGUI is not a great GUI, but > what > > sort of features are you looking for? I have > expanded > > the function of PartyGUI a good bit (admittedly > this > > is just a hobby). Get the latest at > > www.geocities.com/nurse_alexander. What are you > > looking for it to do? I built something that > > addressed my specific needs, but would love the > input > > of those that really are looking for something > slick. > > What should it do? How do you want it to do it. I > am > > willing to give it away, but I just started with a > > picture in my mind. Features are easy to add but > I > > need feedback. > > > > Let me know, I am always looking for someway to > use up > > my spare time (heh heh) and was about to start on > a > > browser version of the current PartyGUI (but that > is > > hard, features are easy) Draw me a picture, etc. > > > > Thanks, > > KJA > > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > keith.alexander@gartner.com > > > > ===== > > Keith Alexander > > alexanders@rocketmail.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist > > > ===== Keith Alexander alexanders@rocketmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From michael@laserle.fi Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:28:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:28:32 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] off topic : Sony KV-37W Service mode Few months back by projector tv blew a green color panel and after two months of fighting with Sony service I finally got my tv fixed, but the color balance is all f**ked up (they lack the skill to repair this). So Please, anyone with A LOT of experience with adjusting projector colors or accurate info on this model, please contact me. I need : 1. info on HOW-TO-Adjust RBG-projector color balance 2. accurate explanation of (KV-37W) Service menu items. -michael (A) -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- From michael@laserle.fi Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:16:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:16:50 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] GUI suggestions, a GUI poll 1. Edit / View - mode : to put somewhere in options a "View only" checkbox that disables all edits to the cdj (and saving library): So no one could accidentally drag&drop anything in cdj, or alter album/track names or delete entries. In View-mode double-click of >enter< would be equal to "Play now" or "Add to playlist" (the mouse pop-up menu is wayyy to intimating for some people) People not familiar with use of mouse (believe it or not but there are those) tend to drag&drop when they try to click, and specially when they try to double click, and that has disastrous effects in cdj. And this is not only for those "computer handicapped", but for those of us who use various wireless mouse/keyB combinations that sometimes don't do what they are told. I for one would like to see "just point what you want to hear and click 2 times, you can't do anything wrong"-cdj. So anybody on the party could use the cdj, and I wouldn't need to worry about my cdj-library. 2. The "Maps" have all kinds of events and actions, I'd love to be able to program actions to key presses. What I like to have is keyboard-events and cdj window actions. Actions that would bring to front/hide, adjust size & position of specified cdj window (albums, details, playlist). This would also solve the "save cdj windows positions", you could write a script that places&sizes the windows to your preferences on cdj startup (event) I think these 2 would be greatly appreciated by cdj community, or ... ? Cast your vote ! 3. And personally I like the cdj windows frames/borders to be narrower so that they would be able to display more data, specially the image/details window. (every additional letter to be displayed is victory ;)) I have emailed these suggestion to Colby, but I never gotten answer (maybe my address was wrong) so now I try get more attention to this matter. I know Colby is very busy, and maybe he thinks that these small details too insignificant to justify the amount of work. (maybe he's right) So I thought I'd ask the other user what they think about these suggestions. --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- From michael@laserle.fi Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:37:09 +0200 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:37:09 +0200 From: Michael Holopainen michael@laserle.fi Subject: [slinkelist] web GUI I think Colby has said something about it. (when talking about linux version, I think it was something like : "then Cdj should be ported to java or smthng so it would be OS independent") That is great idea, but ... But I still prefer the not-web interface, it is better : -You can use the whole screen, no browser menu's & stuff. -Faster -More reliable, less layers (the browser) I might try to do cdj(well It should be called slinke web interface, coz cdj is Nirvis product) web interface, If I find time for it. I'm good with databases, and lately I have had some experience with making web based database interfaces, but I know nothing about controlling the slinke. Anybody who is familiar with Slinke/slinke-server and PHP and interested in joining be on this please email me. -michael (A) "Elron A. Yellin" wrote: > > Haven't used CDJ much since I'm still waiting for my slink-e to arrive, but > I have a suggestion for those who want a different GUI. Make a web > interface. With adequate web construction software, perhaps Adobe GoLive, > you won't need formal programming skills. > > Elron > > _______________________________________________ > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist -- --"Would you fly on airplane controlled by MS Windows ?"-- From mkloss@gateway.net Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:18:13 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:18:13 -0800 From: mkloss mkloss@gateway.net Subject: [slinkelist] I-Opener and My.Mp3.Com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF8D4A.C9869540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Two quick notes... I am looking into finding one of those i-opener sets = and doing the hack to get it to work. I will keep all posted and would = love to hear from anyone else trying. Second, for those who have tried = to access their CDJ over the web (from work, etc.) using their own = servers and what-not, you really should check out mp3.com's free my.mp3 = service. It is a pain to set up (you have to insert every one of your = discs into your cd-rom for one minute, but the results are great; an = easy to navigate listing of your cds with playlist support and instant = streaming (low quality work super on a 56K and I can't wait for my DSL = to go to high quality) without having to make Mp3s of all your disks. = They have already done so with 40,000 or so popular ones but you can = only access them if you prove you have a copy yourself. Of course they = are being sued by the cd manufacturers but for now I am going to use it. = I'm sure many of you knew about this way before me, but some might not. = That's all. Mike ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF8D4A.C9869540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Two quick notes... I am looking into = finding one of=20 those i-opener sets and doing the hack to get it to work.  I will = keep all=20 posted and would love to hear from anyone else trying.  Second, for = those=20 who have tried to access their CDJ over the web (from work, etc.) using = their=20 own servers and what-not, you really should check out mp3.com's free = my.mp3=20 service.  It is a pain to set up (you have to insert every one of = your=20 discs into your cd-rom for one minute, but the results are great; an = easy to=20 navigate listing of your cds with playlist support and instant streaming = (low=20 quality work super on a 56K and I can't wait for my DSL to go to high = quality)=20 without having to make Mp3s of all your disks.  They have already = done so=20 with 40,000 or so popular ones but you can only access them if you prove = you=20 have a copy yourself. Of course they are being sued by the cd = manufacturers but=20 for now I am going to use it.  I'm sure many of you knew about this = way=20 before me, but some might not.  That's all.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF8D4A.C9869540-- From pacopepe@insflug.org Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:15:16 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:15:16 +0100 (MET) From: Francisco Jose Montilla pacopepe@insflug.org Subject: [slinkelist] web GUI On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Michael Holopainen wrote: Hi, > I might try to do cdj(well It should be called slinke web interface, coz > cdj is Nirvis product) web interface, If I find time for it. > I'm good with databases, and lately I have had some experience with > making web based database interfaces, but I know nothing about > controlling the slinke. > Anybody who is familiar with Slinke/slinke-server and PHP and interested > in joining be on this please email me. Have a look at insflug.org/slink, on the linux software section there's a linux transparent slink-e server by Sami-Pekka Haavisto. Dunno if you're referring to it when talking about slinke-server. We on the jukebox-control project are planning to write a PHP interface for it, on PHP, using MySQL as RBDMs, and interfacing with the S-Link controlling host via sockets to a daemon also. We'd like to support all hardware devices available (see hardware section of the OpenSlink site), so we will be glad if you join to support the slink-e. Greets, *****---(*)---**********************************************----------> Francisco J. Montilla System & Network administrator pacopepe@iname.com irc: pukka Seville Spain INSFLUG (LiNUX) Coordinator: www.insflug.org - ftp.insflug.org From elron@motu.com Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:59:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:59:35 -0500 From: Elron A. Yellin elron@motu.com Subject: [slinkelist] mpeg 2? Any plans for mpeg 2 support? The latest mpeg 2 encoding is supposedly about twice as good as mp3. I find mp3 is often not very good-- particularly on music mastered for CD. Anyone know of a good windows mp2 encoder? Elron From MRJonesTEX@aol.com Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:13:08 EST Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:13:08 EST From: MRJonesTEX@aol.com MRJonesTEX@aol.com Subject: [slinkelist] Sony S-Link Litigation, your share If you have purchased a Sony TV, DVD, CD, VCR, Tape Deck, Mini-Disc Deck, or Receiver with the S-Link feature (or supposedly with S-Link in the case of the KV-27V66) . . . you may well find that you have an opportunity to secure a refund of part/all of your purchase price, or a replacement with a new unit at no cost. As I was replacing/upgrading my stereo-television equipment in our den with newer equipment several years ago, I paid the extra to make sure that all of the individual components had the S-Link feature. Guess what ... when I finally finished purchasing all my components and tried to hook them up together so they would work conveniently, I couldn't get them to work. Dozens of hours and multiple telephone calls to Sony didn't work and I gave up! Some of you have been purchasing Sony A/V components with S-Link and won't know that it apparently doesn't work as advertised until you pay a premium to acquire other Sony components. What I didn't know was that apparently there are "known incompatibilities" (per Sony technical rep) among Sony components with the S-Link feature ... that many of us were finding that purchasing components with S-Link didn't assure "seamlessly" integrating our expensive Sony products .. and, that a complaint had even been made to the Federal Trade Commission about this apparently fraudulent advertising and lack of functionality. The final straw came when I purchased a new television and DVD for our bedroom here in Austin - both TV and DVD from Sony, supposedly S-Link compatible - and discovered that they weren't. Incredibly, despite the fact that the Home Theatre Planner, the Sony site, and the Fax-on-Demand service said the KV-27V66 had S-Link ... there was no female S-Link connector on the set. Isn't the Internet wonderful . . . after hours with Circuit City and Sony trying to fix my problem and to make sure that no-one else was a victim of this misrepresentation ... I went on the Net and discovered that many of you had the same problems as me. And that quite a few had complained to Sony individually and gotten virtually nowhere. Finally, a couple of us came to the realization that Sony had no intention of responding to us individually despite the inherent problems and apparent misrepresentation with S-Link connections ... that although they knew that they had design flaws which precluded functionality, they were stonewalling and not being helpful. We (thirteen of us now) are getting a law firm to represent those of us who have purchased a Sony product (supposedly with the S-Link feature) ... and trying to prove that ... "united we stand, divided we fall"! If you would like to participate by joining our group (at Zero cost to you), please reply with the following: Name Address Telephone Number/Fax (if you have one) E-mail address Model Numbers of your Sony products with S-Link Approximate date of purchase and store purchased from We'll keep you posted . . . Thanks Milton Jones mrjonestex@aol.com From cboles@nirvis.com Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:28:15 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:28:15 -0800 From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com Subject: [slinkelist] I-Opener and My.Mp3.Com I've got a number of i-openers on order too. I let you know how it goes once I get them. Colby -----Original Message----- From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of mkloss Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:18 AM To: slinkelist@nirvis.com Subjec