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From kobrien@neonsys.com Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:01:17 -0600
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:01:17 -0600
From: Kevin O'Brien kobrien@neonsys.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Format of commands from PC to Slinke
Kevin O'Brien@NEON
01/05/2001 01:01 PM
I have obtained a wireless com port device. However, the requirment for
this device to send data to the receiver is that the datastream wither be
greater than 78 bytes or that a CR (x'0d') be sent at the end of the
datastream. Does anyone know if CDJ does this when sending/receiving
commands/responses to/from the slinke?
Thanks
From kobrien@neonsys.com Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:57:32 -0600
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:57:32 -0600
From: Kevin O'Brien kobrien@neonsys.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Format of commands from PC to Slinke
Kevin O'Brien@NEON
01/05/2001 03:57 PM
I got it from Otek (http://www.otekcorp.com). They seem willing to program
the device according to specs also.
From: max@netscape.com on 01/05/2001 02:10 PM
To: Kevin O'Brien/Sup/Neon@Neon
cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Format of commands from PC to Slinke
> Kevin O'Brien@NEON 01/05/2001 01:01 PM
>
> I have obtained a wireless com port device. However, the requirment for
> this device to send data to the receiver is that the datastream wither be
> greater than 78 bytes or that a CR (x'0d') be sent at the end of the
> datastream. Does anyone know if CDJ does this when sending/receiving
> commands/responses to/from the slinke?
Can't answer the technical question, but could you enlighten some of the
rest of us on where to obtain a wireless com device?
From gorgoesq@swbell.net Fri, 05 Jan 2001 16:11:14 -0600
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 16:11:14 -0600
From: Marc Hebert gorgoesq@swbell.net
Subject: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
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mine are 5, 1, 0 and I have the problem too when playing sequential
songs. A little frustrating because I can't simply listen to a single
cd straight through while CDJ is on.
Marc
Peter Myers wrote:
> mine are 3, 4, 0 and I never have a problem, except when I have two
> sequential songs (like between China Cat and I Know You Rider) from
> the same cd in the playlist. I think this has been fixed in a newer
> cdj version. Pete > ----- Original Message -----
> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 9:02 PM
> > Subject: RE: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
> >
> >
> > > what are you settings for crossfading in View | Options | Players?
>
> > >
> >
> > I knew I forgot something!
> >
> > I just checked and they were at 3, 3, 0 ...
> > I changed it back to 0, 0, 0 and will see what happens.
> >
> > Why would it only do this _randomly_, if this were the cause?
> >
> > JB
> >
> >
> >
> >
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mine are 5, 1, 0 and I have the problem too when playing sequential songs.
A little frustrating because I can't simply listen to a single cd straight
through while CDJ is on.
Marc
Peter Myers wrote:
mine
are 3, 4, 0 and I never have a problem, except when I have two sequential
songs (like between China Cat and I Know You Rider) from
the same cd in the playlist. I
think this has been fixed in a newer cdj version. Pete >
----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001
9:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03]
- why ?
>
>
> > what are you settings for crossfading
in View | Options | Players?
> >
>
> I knew I forgot something!
>
> I just checked and they were at
3, 3, 0 ...
> I changed it back to 0, 0, 0 and
will see what happens.
>
> Why would it only do this _randomly_,
if this were the cause?
>
> JB
>
>
>
>
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From gorgoesq@swbell.net Fri, 05 Jan 2001 16:25:49 -0600
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 16:25:49 -0600
From: Marc Hebert gorgoesq@swbell.net
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
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Hello.
I'm using an app I wrote, which communicates over a socket with the HASE
Slinkx Socket Server to monitor what CD's currently playing. I send the
"notify_playing_item[on]" command and start receiving the expected async
"playing" responses.
The hitch is this- every now and then I get an extra, erroneous
response, and it always occurs like in this example:
What actually plays:
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 3, disk 140, track 9
What's indicated in "playing" responses:
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 1, disk 33, track 7,
player 3, disk 140, track 9
So, every now and again (maybe every one in 10 or 15 transitions), it
reports a track just after a last played track, that wasn't in the
playlist and indeed did not play.
If I notice any more pertinent details, I'll post them. Anything I
should look for?
Thanks,
Marc
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Hello.
I'm using an app I wrote, which communicates over a socket with the
HASE Slinkx Socket Server to monitor what CD's currently playing.
I send the "notify_playing_item[on]" command and start receiving the expected
async "playing" responses.
The hitch is this- every now and then I get an extra, erroneous response,
and it always occurs like in this example:
What actually plays:
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 3, disk 140, track 9
What's indicated in "playing" responses:
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 1, disk 33, track 7,
player 3, disk 140, track 9
So, every now and again (maybe every one in 10 or 15 transitions), it
reports a track just after a last played track, that wasn't in the playlist
and indeed did not play.
If I notice any more pertinent details, I'll post them. Anything
I should look for?
Thanks,
Marc
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From cboles@nirvis.com Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:33:18 -0800
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:33:18 -0800
From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
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That's because this is what is acutally happening. Sometimes CDJ plays
through very slightly into the next song for one reason or another.
Colby
-----Original Message-----
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
Behalf Of Marc Hebert
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:26 PM
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
Hello.
I'm using an app I wrote, which communicates over a socket with the HASE
Slinkx Socket Server to monitor what CD's currently playing. I send the
"notify_playing_item[on]" command and start receiving the expected async
"playing" responses.
The hitch is this- every now and then I get an extra, erroneous response,
and it always occurs like in this example:
What actually plays:
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 3, disk 140, track 9
What's indicated in "playing" responses:
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 1, disk 33, track 7,
player 3, disk 140, track 9
So, every now and again (maybe every one in 10 or 15 transitions), it
reports a track just after a last played track, that wasn't in the playlist
and indeed did not play.
If I notice any more pertinent details, I'll post them. Anything I should
look for?
Thanks,
Marc
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That's=20
because this is what is acutally happening. Sometimes CDJ plays through =
very=20
slightly into the next song for one reason or =
another.
Colby
Hello.=20
I'm using an app I wrote, which communicates over a socket with the =
HASE=20
Slinkx Socket Server to monitor what CD's currently playing. I =
send the=20
"notify_playing_item[on]" command and start receiving the expected =
async=20
"playing" responses.=20
The hitch is this- every now and then I get an extra, erroneous =
response,=20
and it always occurs like in this example:=20
What actually plays:=20
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 3, disk 140, track 9=20
What's indicated in "playing" responses:=20
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 1, disk 33, track 7,=20
player 3, disk 140, track 9=20
So, every now and again (maybe every one in 10 or 15 transitions), =
it=20
reports a track just after a last played track, that wasn't in the =
playlist=20
and indeed did not play.=20
If I notice any more pertinent details, I'll post them. =
Anything I=20
should look for?=20
Thanks,
Marc
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From jbush@infi.net Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:38:19 -0500
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:38:19 -0500
From: Jeff Bush jbush@infi.net
Subject: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Myers
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
mine are 3, 4, 0 and I never have a problem, except when I have two
sequential songs (like between China Cat and I Know You Rider) from the
same cd in the playlist.
I think this has been fixed in a newer cdj version.
Pete
----------------------------
It appears that I only have the problem between songs on the same CD
too.
I thought I had the latest build of CDJ, so it probly still needs
fixing.
Funny thing is though, it doesn't do it EVERY time. It seems random to
me...
JB
From mike@macgirvin.com Fri, 05 Jan 2001 15:47:04 -0800
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 15:47:04 -0800
From: Mike Macgirvin mike@macgirvin.com
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
> That's because this is what is acutally happening. Sometimes CDJ plays through very slightly into the next song for one reason or another.
>
> Colby
Don't know if there are other reasons (timer granularity, etc.), but I
noticed that I would often get play through of the following song for a
few seconds or more (up to 30) as I exhausted memory; since it took that
time for CDJ to swap back in from disk and send the next command. I
could hear the disk thrashing heavily whenever it occurred.
Tends to happen on a regular basis if you have a well-known web browser
running for a long period of time leaking memory. :-)
I doubled the system memory, started doing my browsing on other
machines, and haven't had a problem since.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On Behalf Of Marc Hebert
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:26 PM
> Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
> Subject: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
>
> Hello.
>
> I'm using an app I wrote, which communicates over a socket with the HASE Slinkx Socket Server to monitor what CD's currently playing. I send the "notify_playing_item[on]" command and start receiving the expected async "playing" responses.
>
> The hitch is this- every now and then I get an extra, erroneous response, and it always occurs like in this example:
>
> What actually plays:
>
> player 1, disk 33, track 6,
> player 3, disk 140, track 9
>
> What's indicated in "playing" responses:
>
> player 1, disk 33, track 6,
> player 1, disk 33, track 7,
> player 3, disk 140, track 9
>
> So, every now and again (maybe every one in 10 or 15 transitions), it reports a track just after a last played track, that wasn't in the playlist and indeed did not play.
>
> If I notice any more pertinent details, I'll post them. Anything I should look for?
>
> Thanks,
> Marc
From iancole@earthlink.net Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:09:05 -0500
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:09:05 -0500
From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
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CDJ sends a playing message as a response to an event from the CD =
Changer, not because it is next in the playlist. Sometimes, CDJ doesn't =
tell the changer to pause at the precise moment, and these erroneous =
messages occur. Of course, they aren't actually erroneous - the CD =
Changer DID START TO PLAY THE SONG.
I would vote that if the device was under playlist control AND the app =
knows it isn't to be played that the extra message never comes through.
I have my artist & tracks announced as the song fades in, but when this =
happens, it is VERY obvious.
I have asked Colby about this (a long time ago) and he told me that this =
is normal CDJ operation. My guess is that some people still use the =
buttons & remote for their changers, so he wanted to reflect what is =
actually happening, not what the playlist told it to do.
Ian
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marc Hebert=20
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:25 PM
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
Hello.=20
I'm using an app I wrote, which communicates over a socket with the =
HASE Slinkx Socket Server to monitor what CD's currently playing. I =
send the "notify_playing_item[on]" command and start receiving the =
expected async "playing" responses.=20
The hitch is this- every now and then I get an extra, erroneous =
response, and it always occurs like in this example:=20
What actually plays:=20
player 1, disk 33, track 6,=20
player 3, disk 140, track 9=20
What's indicated in "playing" responses:=20
player 1, disk 33, track 6,=20
player 1, disk 33, track 7,=20
player 3, disk 140, track 9=20
So, every now and again (maybe every one in 10 or 15 transitions), it =
reports a track just after a last played track, that wasn't in the =
playlist and indeed did not play.=20
If I notice any more pertinent details, I'll post them. Anything I =
should look for?=20
Thanks,=20
Marc=20
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CDJ sends a playing message as a =
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Sometimes,=20
CDJ doesn't tell the changer to pause at the precise moment, and these =
erroneous=20
messages occur. Of course, they aren't actually erroneous - the CD =
Changer DID=20
START TO PLAY THE SONG.
I would vote that if the device was =
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control AND the app knows it isn't to be played that the extra message =
never=20
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I have my artist & tracks announced =
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I have asked Colby about this (a long =
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people still=20
use the buttons & remote for their changers, so he wanted to reflect =
what is=20
actually happening, not what the playlist told it to do.
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From:=20
Marc Hebert=20
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 =
5:25=20
PM
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj =
sending an=20
erroneous "playing" response
Hello.=20
I'm using an app I wrote, which communicates over a socket with the =
HASE=20
Slinkx Socket Server to monitor what CD's currently playing. I =
send the=20
"notify_playing_item[on]" command and start receiving the expected =
async=20
"playing" responses.=20
The hitch is this- every now and then I get an extra, erroneous =
response,=20
and it always occurs like in this example:=20
What actually plays:=20
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 3, disk 140, track 9=20
What's indicated in "playing" responses:=20
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 1, disk 33, track 7,=20
player 3, disk 140, track 9=20
So, every now and again (maybe every one in 10 or 15 transitions), =
it=20
reports a track just after a last played track, that wasn't in the =
playlist=20
and indeed did not play.=20
If I notice any more pertinent details, I'll post them. =
Anything I=20
should look for?=20
Thanks,
Marc
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From taylor@hively.com Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:35:10 -0800
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:35:10 -0800
From: Taylor Hively taylor@hively.com
Subject: [slinkelist] How are CDJIDs generated?
I have a Sony 300 disk changer. I'm trying to write a simple utility that
will import an existing cd database (in MS Access) into the CDJ database.
Since the tracks and albums are only associated by the CDJID I'd like to
know how to generate the CDJID in order to add it to the database.
Let's assume I know the artist, title, tracks, minutes, seconds,
(everything).
Thanks,
Taylor Hively
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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:15:44 -0500
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
From: "Gregg King"
Subject: [slinkelist] Sending CDJ / Partygui to my TV
I want to run CDJ from my TV which is with my stereo, in a different room
than my PC. I see on the Partygui site that it mentions that it looks
good on a TV. My existing video card does not have a TV out port. I plan
to send the signal to my TV using wireless products from X10, but need
help adding hardware to my PC for the TV out. Can I add a card - like a
"piggyback" kind of a thing without having to buy another video card?
Any suggestions welcome.
Gregg King
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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:43:38 -0600
From: Marc Hebert
To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] using hase
Hello,
I'm trying to use the HASE interface to slinkx to control CDJ, and I
can't quite figure out some syntax.
To be a little more specific, I'm writing a java app in to send
commands via a socket to the HASE Socket Slinkx Server. For now
atleast, I don't really plan to use vbscript, I'll put all my logic in
my java app.
I can get my java app to receive responses successfully, from either the
Socket Slinkx Server or the main HASE program, but I can't send
commands. Using the Winsock test client, I can send SSS, for example,
"commandID sendex cdj:playlist_play" (plus a carriage return), and the
command is executed, but when I send the same string in my own code,
nothing happens. Less important, I can't figure out how to validly send
the message to the HASE main program (using the default sample.has
vbscript). In the latter case, I get an error message (as opposed to
being ignored).
I haven't seen anything in the log files to shed light on what I'm doing
wrong. Any ideas?
TIA,
Marc
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:32:01 +0200
From: Michael Holopainen
Organization: Laserle Oy
To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com"
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Sending CDJ / Partygui to my TV
mount one PC to stereo rack, you get inexpensive DVD player & mp3 player and
then some...
and hook it up with your other pc via LAN.
1. asus Vxxxx cards tv out is not very good(at least PAL haven't yet tried
NTSC)
2. diamond viper 550/770(old, inexpensive both pci and AGP models) had IMHO
good tv out quality
3. matrox _should_ have "best" tv out quality (my next card WILL be matrox
G450eTV)
4. Also someone said that ATI has "good" tv out, I do not believe that, but
ATI cards are cheap so...
But it's poitless to talk about cards as 98% of PC2TV picture quality is
dictated by your tv.
VGA and TV picture are fundamentally sooooo different that there is no good
pc2tv.
If you want good picture, then you need to buy big enough monitor to watch
tv
from.
ie. pioneer 50" plasmatv (price approx 20 000USD) is "good"
-michael (A)
Gregg King wrote:
> I want to run CDJ from my TV which is with my stereo, in a different room
> than my PC. I see on the Partygui site that it mentions that it looks
> good on a TV. My existing video card does not have a TV out port. I plan
> to send the signal to my TV using wireless products from X10, but need
> help adding hardware to my PC for the TV out. Can I add a card - like a
> "piggyback" kind of a thing without having to buy another video card?
>
> Any suggestions welcome.
>
> Gregg King
>
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From gorgoesq@swbell.net Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:07:52 -0600
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:07:52 -0600
From: Marc Hebert gorgoesq@swbell.net
Subject: [slinkelist] ms tts front end
Seems like this would be easy to find, but somehow I can't. Is there a
GUI to microsoft's text-to-speech (that is suggested for use with HASE)
software, like a little a spell and say? I don't see one when install
the speech panel, I could only find the speech properties settings and
some executable called vcdm, which seem to run as a standalone exe, or I
don't know how to start it.
Thanks!
Marc
From iancole@earthlink.net Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:23:23 -0500
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:23:23 -0500
From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net
Subject: [slinkelist] ms tts front end
You can use the "pronunciation" feature of the control panel to test the
output, or if you have HASE and TTS and SSS running, you can load the sample
VB GUI app which has an "announce" text box.
The Voice SDK also has some sample apps - I can point you to it if you'd
like.
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Hebert
Cc:
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:07 PM
Subject: [slinkelist] ms tts front end
>
> Seems like this would be easy to find, but somehow I can't. Is there a
> GUI to microsoft's text-to-speech (that is suggested for use with HASE)
> software, like a little a spell and say? I don't see one when install
> the speech panel, I could only find the speech properties settings and
> some executable called vcdm, which seem to run as a standalone exe, or I
> don't know how to start it.
>
> Thanks!
> Marc
>
>
>
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From mkropp@thirtytwopaws.com Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:44:03 -0500
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:44:03 -0500
From: Mike Kropp mkropp@thirtytwopaws.com
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
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You are right. CDJ does know that the playlist is playing and could
(should) adjust its behavior accordingly.
--Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
Behalf Of Ian Cole
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:09 PM
To: Marc Hebert
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
CDJ sends a playing message as a response to an event from the CD Changer,
not because it is next in the playlist. Sometimes, CDJ doesn't tell the
changer to pause at the precise moment, and these erroneous messages occur.
Of course, they aren't actually erroneous - the CD Changer DID START TO PLAY
THE SONG.
I would vote that if the device was under playlist control AND the app
knows it isn't to be played that the extra message never comes through.
I have my artist & tracks announced as the song fades in, but when this
happens, it is VERY obvious.
I have asked Colby about this (a long time ago) and he told me that this
is normal CDJ operation. My guess is that some people still use the buttons
& remote for their changers, so he wanted to reflect what is actually
happening, not what the playlist told it to do.
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Hebert
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:25 PM
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj sending an erroneous "playing" response
Hello.
I'm using an app I wrote, which communicates over a socket with the HASE
Slinkx Socket Server to monitor what CD's currently playing. I send the
"notify_playing_item[on]" command and start receiving the expected async
"playing" responses.
The hitch is this- every now and then I get an extra, erroneous
response, and it always occurs like in this example:
What actually plays:
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 3, disk 140, track 9
What's indicated in "playing" responses:
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 1, disk 33, track 7,
player 3, disk 140, track 9
So, every now and again (maybe every one in 10 or 15 transitions), it
reports a track just after a last played track, that wasn't in the playlist
and indeed did not play.
If I notice any more pertinent details, I'll post them. Anything I
should look for?
Thanks,
Marc
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You=20
are right. CDJ does know that the playlist is playing and could =
(should)=20
adjust its behavior accordingly.
--Mike
CDJ sends a playing message as a =
response to an=20
event from the CD Changer, not because it is next in the playlist. =
Sometimes,=20
CDJ doesn't tell the changer to pause at the precise moment, and these =
erroneous messages occur. Of course, they aren't actually erroneous - =
the CD=20
Changer DID START TO PLAY THE SONG.
I would vote that if the device was =
under=20
playlist control AND the app knows it isn't to be played that the =
extra=20
message never comes through.
I have my artist & tracks =
announced as the=20
song fades in, but when this happens, it is VERY obvious.
I have asked Colby about this (a long =
time ago)=20
and he told me that this is normal CDJ operation. My guess is that =
some people=20
still use the buttons & remote for their changers, so he wanted to =
reflect=20
what is actually happening, not what the playlist told it to =
do.
Ian
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From:=20
Marc=20
Hebert
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, =
2001 5:25=20
PM
Subject: [slinkelist] cdj =
sending an=20
erroneous "playing" response
Hello.=20
I'm using an app I wrote, which communicates over a socket with =
the HASE=20
Slinkx Socket Server to monitor what CD's currently playing. I =
send=20
the "notify_playing_item[on]" command and start receiving the =
expected async=20
"playing" responses.=20
The hitch is this- every now and then I get an extra, erroneous =
response,=20
and it always occurs like in this example:=20
What actually plays:=20
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player 3, disk 140, track 9=20
What's indicated in "playing" responses:=20
player 1, disk 33, track 6,
player 1, disk 33, track =
7,=20
player 3, disk 140, track 9=20
So, every now and again (maybe every one in 10 or 15 =
transitions), it=20
reports a track just after a last played track, that wasn't in the =
playlist=20
and indeed did not play.=20
If I notice any more pertinent details, I'll post them. =
Anything I=20
should look for?=20
Thanks,
Marc
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From mypeter@bigfoot.com Fri, 5 Jan 2001 23:09:57 -0800
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 23:09:57 -0800
From: Peter Myers mypeter@bigfoot.com
Subject: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
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I only have the problem when I explode the album to tracks. If it =
condensed to one line item in the playlist, no problem. The problem is =
a lot of my collection is songs that transition into one another across =
tracks.
I just installed the new version, but have not verified that this is =
fixed.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marc Hebert=20
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com=20
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
mine are 5, 1, 0 and I have the problem too when playing sequential =
songs. A little frustrating because I can't simply listen to a single =
cd straight through while CDJ is on.=20
Marc=20
Peter Myers wrote:=20
mine are 3, 4, 0 and I never have a problem, except when I have two =
sequential songs (like between China Cat and I Know You Rider) from the =
same cd in the playlist. I think this has been fixed in a newer cdj =
version. Pete > ----- Original Message -----=20
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> > what are you settings for crossfading in View | Options | =
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> >=20
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> I knew I forgot something!=20
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> I just checked and they were at 3, 3, 0 ...=20
> I changed it back to 0, 0, 0 and will see what happens.=20
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> Why would it only do this _randomly_, if this were the cause?=20
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> JB=20
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transition=20
into one another across tracks.
I just installed the new version, but =
have not=20
verified that this is fixed.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20
Marc Hebert=20
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 =
2:11=20
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Subject: Re: [slinkelist] ? =
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- why ?
mine are 5, 1, 0 and I have the problem too when =
playing=20
sequential songs. A little frustrating because I can't simply =
listen to=20
a single cd straight through while CDJ is on.=20
Marc=20
Peter Myers wrote:=20
mine are 3, 4, 0 and I never have =
a problem,=20
except when I have two sequential songs (like between China Cat =
and=20
I Know You Rider) from the same cd in the=20
playlist. I =
think this has=20
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>
> > what are you settings for =
crossfading in=20
View | Options | Players?
> >
>
> I knew I=20
forgot something!
>
> I just=20
checked and they were at 3, 3, 0 ...
> I changed it back to 0, 0, 0 and =
will see what=20
happens.
>=20
> Why would it only do =
this=20
_randomly_, if this were the cause?
>
>=20
JB
>=20
>
>
>
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From max@netscape.com Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:10:27 -0800
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:10:27 -0800
From: Mike Macgirvin max@netscape.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Format of commands from PC to Slinke
> Kevin O'Brien@NEON 01/05/2001 01:01 PM
>
> I have obtained a wireless com port device. However, the requirment for
> this device to send data to the receiver is that the datastream wither be
> greater than 78 bytes or that a CR (x'0d') be sent at the end of the
> datastream. Does anyone know if CDJ does this when sending/receiving
> commands/responses to/from the slinke?
Can't answer the technical question, but could you enlighten some of the
rest of us on where to obtain a wireless com device?
From cboles@nirvis.com Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:49:55 -0800
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:49:55 -0800
From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] New CDJ Version
I've posted a new version of CDJ on the site...
Here's the revision info:
---CDJ---
1/6/01
Fix problem with playlist pointer position after playlist clear
Fix recent (12/6/00) problem with old playlists being unreadable
Fix CDDB2 proxy options problems
Add warning with 300/400 disc player is in Control-A1 mode
Add support for memo fields for CX270/90ES
Remove fading from play of consecutive tracks
Added keyboard navigation of lists. Select a cell in any field and start
typing to jump to what you are looking for.
---Slinkeserv---
1/6/01
Removed time stamps from error reporting
---SlinkX---
1/06/01
Changed stock error event to use a long instead of an SCODE to allow use in
Visual Basic
From cboles@nirvis.com Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:51:35 -0800
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:51:35 -0800
From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
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I just put a new version up which should fix this.
Colby
-----Original Message-----
From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
Behalf Of Peter Myers
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:10 PM
To: Marc Hebert
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
I only have the problem when I explode the album to tracks. If it
condensed to one line item in the playlist, no problem. The problem is a
lot of my collection is songs that transition into one another across
tracks.
I just installed the new version, but have not verified that this is
fixed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Hebert
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
mine are 5, 1, 0 and I have the problem too when playing sequential
songs. A little frustrating because I can't simply listen to a single cd
straight through while CDJ is on.
Marc
Peter Myers wrote:
mine are 3, 4, 0 and I never have a problem, except when I have two
sequential songs (like between China Cat and I Know You Rider) from the same
cd in the playlist. I think this has been fixed in a newer cdj version. Pete
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 9:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] ? fade_down[03] - why ?
>
>
> > what are you settings for crossfading in View | Options | Players?
> >
>
> I knew I forgot something!
>
> I just checked and they were at 3, 3, 0 ...
> I changed it back to 0, 0, 0 and will see what happens.
>
> Why would it only do this _randomly_, if this were the cause?
>
> JB
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com
> http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist
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I just=20
put a new version up which should fix this.
Colby
I only have the problem when I =
explode the album=20
to tracks. If it condensed to one line item in the playlist, no=20
problem. The problem is a lot of my collection is songs that =
transition=20
into one another across tracks.
I just installed the new version, but =
have not=20
verified that this is fixed.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20
Marc=20
Hebert
Cc: slinkelist@nirvis.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, =
2001 2:11=20
PM
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] ?=20
fade_down[03] - why ?
mine are 5, 1, 0 and I have the problem too when =
playing=20
sequential songs. A little frustrating because I can't simply =
listen=20
to a single cd straight through while CDJ is on.=20
Marc=20
Peter Myers wrote:=20
mine are 3, 4, 0 and I never =
have a=20
problem, except when I have two sequential songs (like between =
China=20
Cat and I Know You Rider) from the same cd in the=20
playlist. I =
think this=20
has been fixed in a newer cdj version. Pete > ----- Original Message ----- =
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 =
9:02=20
PM
> =
Subject: RE:=20
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>
>
> >=20
what are you settings for crossfading in View | Options |=20
Players?
> =
>
>=20
> I knew I forgot=20
something!
>
> I just=20
checked and they were at 3, 3, 0 ...
> I changed it back to 0, 0, 0 and =
will see=20
what happens.
>
> Why=20
would it only do this _randomly_, if this were the =
cause?=20
> =
> JB
>
>
>
>
>=20
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From gking@ontariodie.com Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:08:30 -0500
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:08:30 -0500
From: Gregg King gking@ontariodie.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Help with IR please
I have been using CDJ for a while now. I finally got around to hooking up
the IR part tonight. I checked the files and none of my other equipment is
supported, so I have to create my own files. I started up EZLearn, and
tried a button - it seemed to read it alright, but using "try" it would
not perform the command. Subsequent tries were less successful = now it
won't even read the commands in!
Any ideas folks? There didn't seem to be documentation as to how to hook
it up, so I just used a phone cable from the SlinkE to the IR box and
placed it across the room from my stereo. Assume a knowledge level of
ZERO on this stuff - also, once I create these files, what software do I
use to use them?
Gregg
From cboles@nirvis.com Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:53:27 -0800
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:53:27 -0800
From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Help with IR please
Did you use "a phone cable" or the data cable which is supplied with the
Slink-e? The cables we provide are wired different than regular phone
cables.
Colby
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
> Behalf Of Gregg King
> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 10:09 PM
> To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
> Subject: [slinkelist] Help with IR please
>
>
> I have been using CDJ for a while now. I finally got around to hooking up
> the IR part tonight. I checked the files and none of my other equipment is
> supported, so I have to create my own files. I started up EZLearn, and
> tried a button - it seemed to read it alright, but using "try" it would
> not perform the command. Subsequent tries were less successful = now it
> won't even read the commands in!
>
> Any ideas folks? There didn't seem to be documentation as to how to hook
> it up, so I just used a phone cable from the SlinkE to the IR box and
> placed it across the room from my stereo. Assume a knowledge level of
> ZERO on this stuff - also, once I create these files, what software do I
> use to use them?
>
> Gregg
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com
> http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist
>
>
From cboles@nirvis.com Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:45:52 -0800
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:45:52 -0800
From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] How are CDJIDs generated?
I could explain how the CDJID is generated (complicated), but it still would
not be of any use. You need to know the track times as they would be
reported by the Sony changer, which can be different than what a CD-ROM or
other device may report.
Still, here's the code - it's based on maximum-length sequences to do some
noise whitening on the data:
const int CDisc::MLSLEN = 127;
const int CDisc::MLS[127] =
{1,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,1,0
,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,1
,0,1,1,1,1,0,1,1,0,0,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,1,0,1,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0
,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0};
CString CDisc::CalcCDJID()
{
CString t,ID;
int i,j,sum;
if (nTracks == 0)
return "0000000000000000";
for (i = 0; i < 8; i++)
{
sum = 0;
for (j = 0; j < MLSLEN; j++)
{
sum += (track[j % nTracks].TimeInSecs() >> (8*(j/nTracks % 2)))*
MLS[(j+i) % MLSLEN];
}
t.Format("%02X",sum % 256);
ID += t;
}
return ID;
}
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
> Behalf Of Taylor Hively
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
> Subject: [slinkelist] How are CDJIDs generated?
>
>
> I have a Sony 300 disk changer. I'm trying to write a simple utility that
> will import an existing cd database (in MS Access) into the CDJ database.
> Since the tracks and albums are only associated by the CDJID I'd like to
> know how to generate the CDJID in order to add it to the database.
> Let's assume I know the artist, title, tracks, minutes, seconds,
> (everything).
>
> Thanks,
> Taylor Hively
>
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Sending CDJ / Partygui to my TV (Gregg King)
> 2. using hase (Marc Hebert)
> 3. Re: Sending CDJ / Partygui to my TV (Michael Holopainen)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:15:44 -0500
> To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
> From: "Gregg King"
> Subject: [slinkelist] Sending CDJ / Partygui to my TV
>
> I want to run CDJ from my TV which is with my stereo, in a different room
> than my PC. I see on the Partygui site that it mentions that it looks
> good on a TV. My existing video card does not have a TV out port. I plan
> to send the signal to my TV using wireless products from X10, but need
> help adding hardware to my PC for the TV out. Can I add a card - like a
> "piggyback" kind of a thing without having to buy another video card?
>
> Any suggestions welcome.
>
> Gregg King
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:43:38 -0600
> From: Marc Hebert
> To: slinkelist@nirvis.com
> Subject: [slinkelist] using hase
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to use the HASE interface to slinkx to control CDJ, and I
> can't quite figure out some syntax.
>
> To be a little more specific, I'm writing a java app in to send
> commands via a socket to the HASE Socket Slinkx Server. For now
> atleast, I don't really plan to use vbscript, I'll put all my logic in
> my java app.
>
> I can get my java app to receive responses successfully, from either the
> Socket Slinkx Server or the main HASE program, but I can't send
> commands. Using the Winsock test client, I can send SSS, for example,
> "commandID sendex cdj:playlist_play" (plus a carriage return), and the
> command is executed, but when I send the same string in my own code,
> nothing happens. Less important, I can't figure out how to validly send
> the message to the HASE main program (using the default sample.has
> vbscript). In the latter case, I get an error message (as opposed to
> being ignored).
>
> I haven't seen anything in the log files to shed light on what I'm doing
> wrong. Any ideas?
>
> TIA,
> Marc
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:32:01 +0200
> From: Michael Holopainen
> Organization: Laserle Oy
> To: "slinkelist@nirvis.com"
> Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Sending CDJ / Partygui to my TV
>
> mount one PC to stereo rack, you get inexpensive DVD player & mp3
> player and
> then some...
> and hook it up with your other pc via LAN.
>
> 1. asus Vxxxx cards tv out is not very good(at least PAL haven't yet tried
> NTSC)
> 2. diamond viper 550/770(old, inexpensive both pci and AGP
> models) had IMHO
> good tv out quality
> 3. matrox _should_ have "best" tv out quality (my next card WILL be matrox
> G450eTV)
> 4. Also someone said that ATI has "good" tv out, I do not believe
> that, but
> ATI cards are cheap so...
>
> But it's poitless to talk about cards as 98% of PC2TV picture quality is
> dictated by your tv.
> VGA and TV picture are fundamentally sooooo different that there
> is no good
> pc2tv.
> If you want good picture, then you need to buy big enough monitor to watch
> tv
> from.
> ie. pioneer 50" plasmatv (price approx 20 000USD) is "good"
>
> -michael (A)
>
> Gregg King wrote:
>
> > I want to run CDJ from my TV which is with my stereo, in a
> different room
> > than my PC. I see on the Partygui site that it mentions that it looks
> > good on a TV. My existing video card does not have a TV out
> port. I plan
> > to send the signal to my TV using wireless products from X10, but need
> > help adding hardware to my PC for the TV out. Can I add a card - like a
> > "piggyback" kind of a thing without having to buy another video card?
> >
> > Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Gregg King
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > slinkelist maillist - slinkelist@nirvis.com
> > http://www.nirvis.com/mailman/listinfo/slinkelist
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> | | 00700 Helsinki | Fax : +358-(0)9-35093850 |
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From jbush@infi.net Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:35:54 -0500
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:35:54 -0500
From: Jeff Bush jbush@infi.net
Subject: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
Probably my fault...
I downloaded the Iterator app, it runs, but I'm at a loss
to see where it's giving back any information...
The codes count up, but where do I look for responses?
Do I need to have anything else running when I use this?
The docs for CDJ seem to indicate that the iteration code
is built in to CDJ, but trying to use it here didn't do
a thing...
Is the help file for CDJ complete? Mine seems to be missing
some links in the section on determining the codes. The one
that's online seems to be missing these sections too...
In the OPTIONS/SLINKE section there is a checkbox that
says "Use Slinkeserv" . What is the advantage to checking
or unchecking this box ? Doesen't seem to make any difference
in my setup...
Thanks!
Jeff jbush@infi.net
From ncunningham@UrbanMedia.com Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:47:41 -0500
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:47:41 -0500
From: Cunningham, Neil ncunningham@UrbanMedia.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
Jeff,
I've done a lot of decoding for my Sony gear and may be able to give you a
hand. What gear are you trying to find the codes for and what particular
codes are you looking for?
I haven't used the iterator app before but if you have it running you might
want to look in the Slink-e data window of cdj and see what's coming across.
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Bush [mailto:jbush@infi.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:36 PM
To: Colby Boles; slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
Probably my fault...
I downloaded the Iterator app, it runs, but I'm at a loss
to see where it's giving back any information...
The codes count up, but where do I look for responses?
Do I need to have anything else running when I use this?
The docs for CDJ seem to indicate that the iteration code
is built in to CDJ, but trying to use it here didn't do
a thing...
Is the help file for CDJ complete? Mine seems to be missing
some links in the section on determining the codes. The one
that's online seems to be missing these sections too...
In the OPTIONS/SLINKE section there is a checkbox that
says "Use Slinkeserv" . What is the advantage to checking
or unchecking this box ? Doesen't seem to make any difference
in my setup...
Thanks!
Jeff jbush@infi.net
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From john.davis@primark.com Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:24:18 -0000
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:24:18 -0000
From: Davis, John john.davis@primark.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Basic Need / Question from a Newbie
Hello All,
I have a couple Sony CD-changers, and I have been eyeing the Slink-e for
some time (and lurking on the list to see if it will do what I want it to).
I think it's for me, but I have some questions and need a little help:
I have automated my home and am also on a user list for a product called
Stargate. SG has the ability to communicate via serial ports and also has an
IR interface, and thus I can send commands in ASCII or IR to control
(automate) many things in my house. Is anyone by chance also using SG and
gotten Slink-e to work with it successfully to do all this neat stuff?
Also, we are not a TV-based household - although we do have several monitors
setup for video cameras, DVD/VCR video distribution, and use of PC's on the
network. Can the Slink-e interface be used in a TV environment? Does the
signal need to be modulated? Is controlled then via IR?
Or, is it better to accept that it is designed to work in a PC environment -
and then my next question is, can it be accessed over a LAN by multiple
PC's? The latter is actually much preferred, because (I believe) it would
dispense with the need for IR, and allow direct control through the Slink-e
interface.
Has anyone put together an installation like this? I'd appreciate your help
and insight.
Thanks,
Jcd
PS: Although I've wired my home to the nth-degree, I am actually not a
computer/web/electronics/programmer type of person, so I need answers in
basic language. Telling my to write a java-script app and run it on a
web-server will go straight over my head :o)
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From ron@tugender.com Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:18:07 -0800
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:18:07 -0800
From: Ron Tugender ron@tugender.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Problem with LAN shares
In my current configuration I am running CDJ on one system accessing its
library database through a LAN share to the actual MDB file on another
Windows 2000 Pro system. In general this works fine, though I have run into
a couple of glitches.
Occasionally during a library auto-save CDJ will complain with error
80004005 that there was a disk or network error. I have understandably
received this error when the system hosting the library database file was
rebooted while CDJ was running. But it has also occurred when the LAN and
both systems were up continuously at all times prior to the error.
* Why does this happen?
Very annoying is what happens once one of these database access errors
occurs. Once the error has occurred, even though the library file is
demonstrably accessible, CDJ continues to complain with the same error,
apparently having permanently trashed whatever runtime state it maintains
about the library. This is especially annoying attempting to exit CDJ when
auto-save is turned on. Because CDJ attempts to auto-save at exit, when the
library access fails, CDJ just reports the error and refuses to exit. The
only way I've found to cleanly exit CDJ and get it running properly again is
to disable auto-save, exit (refusing the library update prompt), then
re-start CDJ and re-enable auto-save.
* Can CDJ be convinced to re-attempt library access once it has failed?
* Can CDJ allow a clean exit even after a library access failure?
Thanks,
Ron
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From jbush@infi.net Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:20:16 -0500
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:20:16 -0500
From: Jeff Bush jbush@infi.net
Subject: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
> Jeff,
>
> I've done a lot of decoding for my Sony gear and may be able to give
you a
> hand. What gear are you trying to find the codes for and what
particular
> codes are you looking for?
>
> I haven't used the iterator app before but if you have it running you
might
> want to look in the Slink-e data window of cdj and see what's coming
across.
>
> Neil
Hi Neil,
Thanks for the reply...
Just by trial and error I've managed to find most of the codes I was
looking for to control the tuner section of the DE845 (manually
iterating
the codes!) But, there is apparently a group of codes located at
0xC153 that don't send the typical "error" message back, meaning that
there must be some function there. Sometimes I get "already did that"
as a response. I'd also like to see if there are more codes available
that I can use to control a WE 625 cassette machine.
Problem with Iterator is that I can't see anyplace that it's collecting
any data and sending it back to me... I've tried it with/without
Slinkeserv
running, with/without CDJ (and the data window) open... nada...
Thanks again...
Jeff jbush@infi.net
From neil@neils.net Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:10:30 -0500
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:10:30 -0500
From: Neil Cunningham neil@neils.net
Subject: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
take a look at the 555es files in the device files directory and see if
any of those work for you. Those are the ones I found for mine. Not
much to the tuner section.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Bush [mailto:jbush@infi.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:20 PM
To: Cunningham, Neil; slinkelist@nirvis.com
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
> Jeff,
>
> I've done a lot of decoding for my Sony gear and may be able to give
you a
> hand. What gear are you trying to find the codes for and what
particular
> codes are you looking for?
>
> I haven't used the iterator app before but if you have it running you
might
> want to look in the Slink-e data window of cdj and see what's coming
across.
>
> Neil
Hi Neil,
Thanks for the reply...
Just by trial and error I've managed to find most of the codes I was
looking for to control the tuner section of the DE845 (manually
iterating
the codes!) But, there is apparently a group of codes located at
0xC153 that don't send the typical "error" message back, meaning that
there must be some function there. Sometimes I get "already did that"
as a response. I'd also like to see if there are more codes available
that I can use to control a WE 625 cassette machine.
Problem with Iterator is that I can't see anyplace that it's collecting
any data and sending it back to me... I've tried it with/without
Slinkeserv
running, with/without CDJ (and the data window) open... nada...
Thanks again...
Jeff jbush@infi.net
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From cboles@nirvis.com Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:38:25 -0800
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:38:25 -0800
From: Colby Boles cboles@nirvis.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
Jeff-
You need to load the nirvis\lowlevel.cde device in CDJ so that you can see
all of the unlabelled S-Link traffic.
Colby
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com [mailto:slinkelist-admin@nirvis.com]On
> Behalf Of Jeff Bush
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:20 PM
> To: Cunningham, Neil; slinkelist@nirvis.com
> Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [slinkelist] Can't get "Iterator" to do anything useful...
>
>
> > Jeff,
> >
> > I've done a lot of decoding for my Sony gear and may be able to give
> you a
> > hand. What gear are you trying to find the codes for and what
> particular
> > codes are you looking for?
> >
> > I haven't used the iterator app before but if you have it running you
> might
> > want to look in the Slink-e data window of cdj and see what's coming
> across.
> >
> > Neil
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> Thanks for the reply...
>
> Just by trial and error I've managed to find most of the codes I was
> looking for to control the tuner section of the DE845 (manually
> iterating
> the codes!) But, there is apparently a group of codes located at
> 0xC153 that don't send the typical "error" message back, meaning that
> there must be some function there. Sometimes I get "already did that"
> as a response. I'd also like to see if there are more codes available
> that I can use to control a WE 625 cassette machine.
>
> Problem with Iterator is that I can't see anyplace that it's collecting
> any data and sending it back to me... I've tried it with/without
> Slinkeserv
> running, with/without CDJ (and the data window) open... nada...
>
> Thanks again...
>
> Jeff jbush@infi.net
>
>
>
>
>
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From mskubisz@mediaone.net Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:17:48 -0500
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:17:48 -0500
From: Mike & Kelly Skubisz mskubisz@mediaone.net
Subject: [slinkelist] Slinkx control of CDJ
Does anyone know if CDJ can be controlled by another app thru the slinkx
activeX control? I am trying to write a VB app to do some home automation
and would like to control CDJ from it.
Mike
From iancole@earthlink.net Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:32:13 -0500
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:32:13 -0500
From: Ian Cole iancole@earthlink.net
Subject: [slinkelist] Slinkx control of CDJ
Yes, it can - there are sample VB apps in the CDJ installation package.
You can also check out the USER SUBMITTED files on the Nirvis site where you
will find information on apps that others have developed.
[shameless_plug]
You can also check out my application at www.technovelocity.com/hase - I
also have an activex control you can use within your VB application, but it
communicates via TCP/IP sockets versus DCOM. You'll find a VB sample app on
my website that also controls many CDJ features.
[/shameless_plug]
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike & Kelly Skubisz
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:17 PM
Subject: [slinkelist] Slinkx control of CDJ
> Does anyone know if CDJ can be controlled by another app thru the slinkx
> activeX control? I am trying to write a VB app to do some home automation
> and would like to control CDJ from it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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From eric@enginehousemedia.com Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:00:37 -0800
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:00:37 -0800
From: Eric Lizotte eric@enginehousemedia.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Device files
Does anyone have a device file for the Kenwood RC-R0607 remote? its for the
Kenwood VR209 receiver
Thanks!
Eric
From john.davis@primark.com Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:48:13 -0000
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:48:13 -0000
From: Davis, John john.davis@primark.com
Subject: [slinkelist] Basic Need / Question from a Newbie
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the response. Please let me see if I understand this correctly:
PC (COM PORT) ==> Slink-e ==> Sony CD Changer
I guess what I want to be able to do is the following:
Any PC (via LAN/Ethernet) ==> PC (COM PORT) ==> Slink-e ==> Sony CD Changer
As far as displaying, as long as I can access and control the Slink-e from
any PC on the LAN, then displaying is not an issue - but that's the
question: can I run the Slink-e remotely?
FYI, At each PC on the LAN, I am using a Samsung SyncMaster 150mp TFT LCD
monitor that has a built-in TV tuner and can accept coax inputs from any
NTSC modulated video signal, but I guess that's irrelevant for what we're
talking about.... (?)
Basically, I want to be able to control Slink-e from any PC in the house -
and see cover art, track times, etc, etc. If I can do this basic thing, then
all the other stuff (HA control via IR and X-10, etc) is just icing. I just
want to be able to go to any PC and control our music.
Is this "do-able" ?
Thanks & regards,
Jcd
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Holopainen [mailto:michael@laserle.fi]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:32 AM
To: Davis, John
Subject: Re: [slinkelist] Basic Need / Question from a Newbie
> I have automated my home and am also on a user list for a product called
> Stargate.
Wow,stargate, so you are SERIOUS about home-automation and you don't have
slinke, shame on you ; )
> Can the Slink-e interface be used in a TV environment?
PC and displaycard with TV-out (ati all-in-wonder RADEON or Matrox G450 eTV
which have tv tuner so you record tv /video directly to MPEG2 (DVD-format)
3h = 5Gb(MPEG2 = DVD quality) 7h=5Gb MPEG1 VCR quality)
> Does the signal need to be modulated?
??? What signal TV or slinke ?
Yes you need to "modulate" PC VGA to NTSC (or PAL)
Slinke signal ??? NO slinke is connected to PC via COM-port and slinke is
connected to Sony CD-magasines via WIRE (3.5" mono phono plugs).
> Is controlled then via IR?
>
Yes ,and NO.
Slinke is ADD_ON to connect Sony S-Link (Control-A1 (II)) to PC and CDJ is
software to control Sony CD-magasines via PC.
Slinke (Control-A1) uses wire_control, BUT Slike-box also has IR receiver &
transmitter.
For example I have this stupid Sony 2-way Remote, and with very little work
and Ir_helper application made my slike user I got remote contol for my PC
DVD player.
>
> Or, is it better to accept that it is designed to work in a PC environment
-
> and then my next question is, can it be accessed over a LAN by multiple
> PC's?
Yes many users use it like that and few have added streaming to it = and now
they have their own internet radio station, and one user have reported that
he uses it via wireless LAN and his laptop in his car while driving around
US.
> The latter is actually much preferred, because (I believe) it would
> dispense with the need for IR, and allow direct control th